>puts hyper obese amerisharts on 1200 calorie chicken broccoli diets
>99% of his patient fail
why doesn't he put them on something sustainable like 2000 calories?
even at 3000 calories they would still be able to easily lose weight
>puts hyper obese amerisharts on 1200 calorie chicken broccoli diets. >99% of his patient fail
realistic weight loss isn't good TV, goyim
What is this TV show I want to see
My 600lb life. It's basically misery porn. Essentially every single one of them talk about how they were sexually abused as a child and they all have someone who constantly feeds them when all they really need is that person to not give them what they want because then they couldn't eat anyway since they can't move around.
I'm stuck at home with covid for the next 4 days might check it out
Get well soon anon
I would suggest not eating anything while watching the show.
it's more fun to hear them squeal in rage
TLC wouldn't be as fun if they didn't torture the freaks and then broadcast the suffering
With his patients its basically imperative that they consume the least amount of calories possible because they are so extremely obese that they cannot be operated on so in order to have surgery they need to lose weight and clear out everything or else they will be unable to locate anything through the shit and fat in their bodies and die on the operating table.
the surgery ruins your nutrient absorption for life
a sustainable diet and no surgery would be far better in the long run
These people are already ruined for life on account of absorbing too many nutrients due to severe mental deficiency.
Not letting yourself get to 600 lbs in the first place would be a FAR better option in the long run. At that weight most are already damaged beyond repair. The only good for the few who have even a slight chance is to drop weight as fast as possible and get the surgery underway.
>read comment
>look at pfp
>not suprised
Commenter is ironically more mentally unwell than the hyper fat pictured.
They really will fuck anything lmao
He's a surgery doctor. All problems are nails when you're a hammer, or something.
Not like those people are going to change under any circumstances, anyway.
>implying
most people that get fat won't cross the 300lbs threshold
they eventually catch a glimpse of themselves in the mirror and decide enough is enough
even if they never get to a healthy weight they at least realise the weight is a problem and make an effort to lose some lbs even if it's to gain them back, they will just rinse and repeat and for them that's enough, just enough to jot be bed bound and still enjoy the goyslop
but these "people" if you can call them that on TLC have gone past the point of no return
even if you presented them with a fool proof plan to lose weight they will not do it, all they want is to keep stuffing their face
they see the consequences of their actions but they do not want to stop, they even don't want to lose just enough weight where they can continue to eat goyslop somewhat without problems
they want shortcuts, they want magic pills that burn fat and operations that will cut their body weight in half
they don't want to diet, they don't want to change
there's a reason they out them on this extreme diet and it's because once you get the operation that's basically how you have to eat for the foreseeable future
if they are incapable they won't operate because the % of people who get the operation and just become fatter is outrageously high
they literally believe that after the operation they can continue to binge like fat pigs and they will magically lose weight
plus they're monitored and their food is controlled so you can force their restriction to the lowest possible levels
Because they need to prove they can stick to a diet that they’re going to be eating after they get the surgery before he commits to the surgery
broccoli and chicken are delicious
This is true for everyone that hasn't had 10,000,000 calories worth of goy syrup pass over their taste buds. To the super obese broccoli and chicken taste like poison.
The idiots in the show dont even bother properly seasoning their chicken and vegetables. There's a billion great recipes but the fatsos always go for the "white people" approach and then complain that theres no taste. I took my idiot obese cousin to a good indian restaurant and he was amazed that grilled chicken can taste so good.
can an autist here do the math, they have to lose 60lbs in 2 months usually. what calories would you need for say, a 700lb fat ass fatass, to lose a lb a day.
You can just check with a tdee calculator. I just did a 35 year old 5'7'' woman at 700lbs and it said maintenance is 4683 calories. 1200 calories would be almost exactly 1lb lost a day, at least at first.
You also have to consider the massive amount of water weight they're holding and will lose almost immediately.
i don't think tdee calcs scale that well at that level tbh
huge pro bodybuilders are usually eating 5000-6000 when bulking, and granted they're on roids and actually lifting every day, but they're still half the weight of the blobs on the show
It scales better for land whales than elite athletes because it's just about their bodyweight and has nothing to do with their activity, which is basically zero. Elite athletes, bodybuilders, etc have more factors to take into account that generic tdee doesn't.
>a tdee calculator
absofuckinglutely retarded
I just ran my numbers and it says I need to be eating 2800+ calories a day to maintain myself with 216-288g of protein. The fuck is that? Who the fuck eats that much protein? I don’t think I’ve EVER eaten over 200g of protein in a single day, let alone nearly 300g.
Kek I eat that much.
>kidneys has left the chat
I'm 5'7 150lbs and I was eating 2800+ cal a day with over 200g of protein when I was bulking. It's not easy, but if you want to make a real change to your body, it's what you have to do.
I tried that diet for a month and its easy as fuck. I've been on 72 hour fasts and so 1200 calories seems like a feast.
I've been on 500-800 cal daily for the past two weeks or so, almost entirely protein. I will never understand fat people.
they literally have abnormal hunger responses (completely uncontrollable hormone decided by genetics) and abnormal satiation responses (completely uncontrollable hormone decided by genetics)
on top of that they have a shitty metabolism (also completely uncontrollable decided by genetics)
many people have one or more of the above, but to be morbidly obese you really need to roll the dice poorly on all three
CICO would fix it of course, but it is likely far harder for them
also, the worst thing about losing weight, especially if you are a volume eater, is that you can always fuck it up (unlike with bulking, whereas you have a lot more leeway to fix it)
do well Monday-Saturday, and then completely fuck up the entire week on sunday and be back at square one
skeletons can not understand this, especially since the downside of bulking is that you feel sick for 30mins-hour. Fatfags are CONSTANTLY craving something that tastes good
t. lost 30 lbs, constantly hungry its unreal
>decided by genetics
>almost every person on the show is molested as a child
i agree that they have fucked up hunger responses, but it's from decades of eating their feelings, stretching the size of their stomachs, and building up insulin resistance moreso than their genetics
>moreso than their genetics
neither of us can prove or disprove that, and I wouldn't say its impossible
but that would be based on self reported data from very unreliable sources, whereas we know that people have varying hormone responses and TDEE despite all else equal
if I bet money on it, it'd be rationale after the fact in most cases
but maybe not, I enjoy food too, so I can see people running to it for comfort
I think if there is a genetic predisposition, it has to do with how they are affected by trauma. Like how not everyone that is sexually abused by a gay becomes a gay, not everyone who is sexually abused becomes a nurgle acolyte. Not everyone who is physically abused becomes a physical abuser etc.
i think it's the same pre-disposition for addiction that you would see in people who start doing drugs because of childhood trauma
the irony is that even though food initially seems like a much better vice than heroin or meth, it ends up doing more damage to these people, creates health problems that are much harder to reverse, and is impossible to quit cold turkey and just cut out of your life
I know this Somali woman who was abandoned in by her mother who married a white tourist in Kenya and left her in an orphanage. Five years later the white man realised that his new wife had abandoned her child, goes to find her, and takes her to the UK. Her mother is an alcoholic and beats her and abuses her in all sorts of ways.
I’ve never seen anyone which such extreme binge eating disorder as herself. She’ll eat a whole birthday cake, a pot of luxury ice cream, and a large pizza by herself in a single sitting.
The only reason she’s thin is that she can’t look after herself. A family member will ask for money and she’ll have a trauma response and give away her entire paycheck (minus her bills) and starve herself until the next payday.
extremely true
> born not making cortisol
>need to take hydrocortisone to replace it since childhood and forever
>body cant regulate day to day needs in periods of low/high stress
>cortisol builds up
>initiate intense hunger and as a result obesity my entire life
Granted I'm only 70lbs overweight and thats miniscule compared to the people on this show, but goddamn it makes things harder. I was able to maintain a normal weight for only 6 months of my life.
That sounds rough anon. I wish you all the best 🙂
Just eat less you fucking pig
I'm not a skeleton. I have never been underweight. The vast majority of fatasses do not have any genetic cause, they just piled on terrible life choices on top of more terrible life choices or were fat as children (which is child abuse).
post a source
No.
Overfeeding Study:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2336074/
Resting Metabolic Rate Study:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30321...
NEAT Study:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9880251/
Hunger Research:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23509...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31037...
Biological Factors:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34426...
Calories In Calories Out:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25733...
Rise in Obesity:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...
I'm not just going to read random studies when I don't even know what point you're trying to make.
insulin resistance becomes a thing with prolonged obesity. i dont recall how it works but basically the body stores more fat because the insulin isn't pushing blood sugar into skeletal tissue.
eating at a level that causes obesity is a sure sign of trauma or other mental health issues. to get to that size, food becomes a coping mechanism to deal with the trauma. it's a self-destructive behavior, as it is with most people with a history of prolonged abuse.
I remember a lady on the show who ate fucking spaghetti with lard and sugar. Its like she wanted to be fat.
>they literally have abnormal hunger responses (completely uncontrollable hormone decided by genetics) and abnormal satiation responses (completely uncontrollable hormone decided by genetics)
Not an excuse to become 600lb blob. Almost every man on the planet has strong sexual urges but that doesnt mean they go around dragging every good looking woman into the bushes and raping her.
>Not an excuse to become 600lb blob
never said it was
it was just a post to help put you in their mindset, and understand that their struggle isn't the same as yours
>but I purposefully don't eat like a fat lard
this is IST, so you might know your macros and eat an exact diet
but 99% of people eat and stop eating according to the same signals as the obese. That being, they eat when they are hungry what they feel like eating, and they stop eating when they are satisfied
the obese are hungrier more often, prefer fattier foods, and require far more food to feel satisfied. None of those factors are within their control, and we have mountains of evidence to support it
heres the manlet video I got it from
tl;dw it has a lot of genetic factors
If I can stop smiling crack then fat people can eat less food. Addiction isn’t unbeatable
never said it was
Did the crack smile back?
Great video, obesity on adults is still a choice even in the simplistic sense though, fuck obeasts
speak foir yourself
He's right tho. If you want the surgery you have to prove that you can actually put in effort. If you aren't willing to put in effort you should just be fat and die.
because they may actually lose weight and stop greasing his/the networks pockets, are you retarded
i think it's just a goal. he doesn't actually control their diet unless they're hospitalized
not even there, family members usually bring slop to the patients
It's good tv. No one cares if these fatties survive (they won't)
he puts them on 1200 calories a day because he's knows they're gonna go over what he tells them anyway
I assume it’s because they can literally die at any minute so they have to “starve” to get surgery asap
Because he knows they're going to be drinking exclusively protein shakes for weeks after they get the surgery
The last thing he needs is to get sued because some whale tears open their egg-sized stomach by eating three large pizzas and dies
The diet before surgery makes sense. The part of the show that makes zero sense is why all the fatties have to drive down to Texas. They all risk their health even further with the car trip and eat even more shit than usual along the way. All he does when they get there is tell them that they're fat and killing themselves, and that they need to go home and lose weight before he can approve them for the surgery.
They can't fit/afford a plane.
the issue isn't food, it's discipline (mindset)
Because they don't need any calories, they have 300 kg of stored fat. But it's politically incorrect to make them fast, too shocking. So it makes them go on a virtual keto fast.
His theory is sound.
His approach is the reason he fails
If you want an obese person to be cured you need to remove their will out of the equation.
Unless you lock them up in a room with no possibility for escape they will get family members to bring them pizzas and other fast food knowing it's wrong.
The obese person doesn't give a shit. It just expects the doctor to work around their blatant disregard for unhealthy behavior and eating disorder.
This is why his patients fail.
He has the right of it, it's the specimens he isn't legally allowed to lock up that fuck it all up.
He is a mocker who enjoys making fun of fat mutts.
At some point a person who cannot help themselves deserves no help.
Someone so big and fat and obese got to that point for a reason.
It's partly their environment, but it's most likely family. They were never truly loved or cared for enough to be taught by their parents how to properly eat, or why to abstain from indulgence.
Nobody around them gives a shit, and neither do they.
They've given up.
If you want to lose weight you got to do better than that.
Hence why they don't keep the weight off if they lose it at all.
They're pathetic and weak willed.
they have lived their lives trying a modest approach and have failed. He's putting them on a diet that they need to be on after surgery so that they have some time to get used to it instead of just doing the surgery and hoping they can stick to a massive caloric deficit.
It's actually pretty nuts how people beat the surgery to begin with, you really have to have dedication to consistently stuff your face even though you feel sick from eating.
It's a TV show, they don't care about them. It's just for ratings, it's better if they fail.
You know when you see youtube channels setup to document weight loss and they get lots of views? they quickly realize if they lose the weight people will stop watching.
So youtube incentivizes them to not lose weight,and actually get fatter.