Putting aside the cancer risk, how dangerous are meat only diets long term?
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Putting aside the cancer risk, how dangerous are meat only diets long term?
It will tank your testosterone after a while and if you're not eating organs you will develop some nutrient deficiencies
>will tank your testosterone
how does that work?
Not him, but if you're eating only meat, then all of your hormones will be fricked because humans are not carnivores. You cannot get decent nutrition from meat alone--and you'll die eating just muscle meat.
And not getting any carbs fricks up your body's ability to regulate blood sugar, which in turn fricks up your blood chemistry (including cortisol spikes) and when your body is under stress, testosterone is one of the things that it stops making.
>Not him, but if you're eating only meat, then all of your hormones will be fricked because humans are not carnivores. You cannot get decent nutrition from meat alone--and you'll die eating just muscle meat.
>And not getting any carbs fricks up your body's ability to regulate blood sugar, which in turn fricks up your blood chemistry (including cortisol spikes) and when your body is under stress, testosterone is one of the things that it stops making.
you keep regurgitating that, but the proof of any of that is where exactly?
wasted trips
Everyone who emphasizes organ meats eventually adds back in carbs citing "electrolyte issues"
Why do you think that is?
>tank your test
I feel much more virile and ready to frick that 2 years ago. I can't keep the boners away chief.
I'm not an expert but without fibers you'll develop constipation pretty quickly. Prepare to shit literal cannon balls
maybe if only meat for some reason, but not if you just skip fiber. I dont eat any fiber or eat very little and its perfectly fine.
Not true. If you only need fiber to move along rotting vegetable matter from your intestines. Meat, and especially fat (which should be your largest macro on a 0 carb diet) are extremely digestible and don't really leave a whole lot of crap (lol) behind to sit in your intestines. When I did 0 carb before I didn't shit a whole lot, but when I did everything came right out with no issue, barely even needed to wipe.
did the same, no shit for 5 days and came ok with not problem
>Meat, and especially fat (which should be your largest macro on a 0 carb diet) are extremely digestible and don't really leave a whole lot of crap (lol) behind to sit in your intestines.
This person does not know even the basics of physiology.
Been thinking that my excess ammount of veg is slowing my digestion down to the point where im bloated. Going to try and eat less veg, more meat and see what happens, for science.
maybe if you eat well coo4sya2vked meat.
> I'm not an expert but without fibers you'll develop constipation pretty quickly
You’re not an expert and you are repeating bollocks you heard and think is true based on the fact other non-experts have repeated it again and again
So you think Inuits couldn't shit or something? I don't eat fiber for inflammatory reasons and my shits are perfectly smooth and clean.
>repeat common knowledge about lack of fiber consumption
>carinarts immediately flood you with angry replies
Not a cult btw
>repeat received wisdom
not a cult btw
Based, it couldn't be more of a cult. The only reason it survives on the internet is that it centers the handful of outlier success stories while hiding the trail of bodies by ostracizing blasphemers
Even the moronic general public isn't moronic enough to think this is a reasonable, net beneficial diet
>outlier success stories
None of these are true btw. People unironically held Liver King up as a shining example of how the carnivore diet improves male performance.
Lmao you have no metric for that. I always thought he was juiced to the gills.
Carnivore is a meme, I was on carnivore for almost 6 months. It's great for cutting, you'll lose a lot of weight mainly because you completely lose your appetite, you end up not eating just because youre never looking forward to eating. But you'll also be low energy, get shit workouts, and can only stay awake for 10 hours before feeling exhausted and needing to sleep. I'd do it if you're a lard who desperately needs to lose weight but otherwise don't bother, there's nothing wrong with eating bread, rice and veggies bro
For the first week it's hell. You'll be going to the toilet every 20 minutes and spraying out what looks like rusty water, and its the worst thing youll ever smell. You'll also lose about 10lbs in your first week, you flush out a frickton of water from your body
it will give you a heart attack long before you get ass cancer
Meat won't give a you a heart attack if you don't use vegatable oils
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>YouTube as a source
Ignored
>terminal velocity aside what's the downside of jumping off a bridge
It depends, who do you trust more. Institution who are mainly funded by a multi billion dollar global industries that care not about your health, only about making money.
Or youtubers trying to sell you cookbooks?
>how dangerous are meat only diets long term?
you should take into consideration where that meat came from and how it was made (what the animal was subject to, etc).
Don’t do it anon, being moderate in everything is a golden rule. My mom works in hospital, i remember she told me a story of bodybuilder that was on meat only diet. His liver increased by 18 cm and he was not really healthy, despite i dont remember the specifics
,>Bodybuilder
It was roids
i eat only meat, eggs and bulksupplements and im healthy
>cancer risk
Unproven. It was in epidemiologic studies done on people eating processed shit.
No data shows that meat itself causes cancer in any way.
>Unproven. It was in epidemiologic studies done on people eating processed shit.
Wrong. They separated out processed meats and read meats, both were carcinogenic, but processed meats were Moreso.
Yeah bro there are so many studies saying you need to get vaxxed, and your kids do too! They must be right!
>Yeah bro there are so many studies saying you need to get vaxxed, and your kids do too! They must be right!
The Vax worked as expected and saved many lives.
Sure it did, keep telling yourself that
This website is so autistic. The word isn't black and white. Just mix in some lettuce
Raised CVD risk and lowers testosterone
Try it and find out. I eat mostly red meat and labs are perfect. My last testosterone measurement was 817 ng/dl. I do eat fruit and eggs also.
Post LDL
It was 110
Wait this was wrong. My HDL was 110, my LDL was 72
nta but my LDL was 87 after following strict carnivore for almost a year
4.8 a1c
89 fasting glucose
My doc said keep it up
what was your diet and why did you stop?
Meat homie
I also drank milk and had yogurt, butter, cheese etc when I wanted them but not too much.
I go off and on this diet. I'm married with kids and go on trips so its not the most convenient thing to always stick to with a busy life. Yeah a bit of copium, but it hasn't fricked me up to go off and back on. I have been doing basically cycles of carnivore/keto for the past 2 years. Most recently I have done it about a month after getting back from vacation. But I'm considering adding in a "cheat day" every once in a while to keep my motivation up. Just every now and then eat something different and not worry about it.
In the long run, I just like this diet and I'll follow it for 80% of the time the rest of my life I imagine.
There's nothing better in life than meat and dairy.
>I eat carbs
>so carnivore diet is good
ok moron.
Just absolutely moronic. Even if you are completely autistic about isolating 99% of the micronutrients you need you'll still miss out on dietary fiber which is extremely important for good health. It's just insane to restrict yourself so needlessly when a more moderate diet will make you healthier for 800% less work
>dietary fiber which is extremely important for good health
Lmao. Ask me how I know you're vaxxed.
read a book and then kys
all the fatty acids in your blood will increase chance of insulin resistance as they block your insulin receptor sites. also the diet will increase your cortisol which further messes with your insulin receptors. your body will be unable to move glucose out of the blood and you will get type 2 diabetes and then blame it on carb consumption.
>people who think this are allowed to reproduce
not an argument fatty
Black folk on this board are so infuriating, just eat good food like what the frick is the matter with you napheads? Fricking disgusting, dubs and you all die of cancer of the eyes.
What's your definition of "good?" Do you consume PUFAs? Seed oils? Vegetable oils? How often do you cook for yourself? If you eat out more than a few times a week, you eat PUFA oils
>Do you consume PUFAs? Seed oils? Vegetable oils?
Those are all the same thing, moron. The problem is that you guys are literally autistic and aren't capable of holding any kind of nuanced opinions. Recognizing that seed oils are bad for you doesn't mean that fruits and vegetables aren't good for you, but you're brain damaged and go running to the most extreme possible opposing position.
>vegetable oil is bad for you? then i'll eat nothing but meat!!!
homies too worried bout pufas when they should be worried bout they stanky ass fupas
Do you think professional athletes give a shit about their PUFA intake? Maybe, but for the majority probably not because they work out hard every day and roid. If you want to be big and strong, you gotta quit stressing over such fickle shit like PUFAs or eating out every once a while. You know the phrase 'meat and potatoes'? Eat your meat and eat some potato and you'll be fine you big fricking baby.
Post body, it's common knowledge onlymeatgays look like shit and will never post body so go ahead and prove me wrong you stupid fricking porch monkey.
There's nothing wrong with eating only meat.
Stop being triggered by other peoples' diet choices who you do not know.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35228814/
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35228814/
based
So meat or a sufficiently meat-imitating vegetarian diet are probably important pillars of nutritional health. This is surprising to nobody and just validates USDA's dietary guidelines for americans
How does this justify a 100% carnivore diet? Bit of a leap, no?
>So meat or a sufficiently meat-imitating vegetarian diet are probably important pillars of nutritional health. This is surprising to nobody and just validates USDA's dietary guidelines for americans
>How does this justify a 100% carnivore diet? Bit of a leap, no?
are you moronic or maybe you cant read? the study clearly says higher meat consumption = longer life span. its right there in the fricking RESULTS paragraph.
"Results: Worldwide, bivariate correlation analyses revealed that meat intake is positively correlated with life expectancies. This relationship remained significant when influences of caloric intake, urbanization, obesity, education and carbohydrate crops were statistically controlled. Stepwise linear regression selected meat intake, not carbohydrate crops, as one of the significant predictors of life expectancy. In contrast, carbohydrate crops showed weak and negative correlation with life expectancy.
"Stepwise linear regression selected meat intake, not carbohydrate crops, as one of the significant predictors of life expectancy. In contrast, carbohydrate crops showed weak and negative correlation with life expectancy."
at no point does it mention a meat-imitating vegetarian diet.
most research literate moron on IST
You understand that this is not an RCT examining the carnivore diet, this is an observation of health outcomes across a variety of societies, yes? You also understand that these are not people participating in carnivore diets, yes? The idea that this supports carnivore in any way is so insanely moronic I don't even know what to say to be honest. There being positives to having meat in your diet is a WILDLY different claim than that a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ANIMAL PRODUCT DIET being healthier than a diet that includes plant and animal matter
Also I know you didn't read the discussion because it literally does mention vegetarian diets with proper amino acid substitutes being functionally the same as meat intake. Literally take 10 minutes to read the discussion of the thing you just blindly and moronicly link to people
Found it for you since you're too lazy or illiterate to actually read even just the discussion of your bombshell study, fricking moron
>Found it for you since you're too lazy or illiterate to actually read even just the discussion of your bombshell study, fricking moron
how does the study actually corroborate what is written in that screenshot you fricking chimp? what the data from the study shows is a positive correlation between meet consumption and longevity. at no point does it prove this particular statement. the statement itself may as well be an opinion which it is.
this particular statement at best can be used as a hypothesis. any and every sort of hyopthesis still requires an experiment at least to be proven correct. so ill just as you again, are you actually moronic?
Damn dude you are so out of your depth I'm physically cringing, at least try to follow the conversation let alone read. Honestly embarrassing anon
>Damn dude you are so out of your depth I'm physically cringing, at least try to follow the conversation let alone read. Honestly embarrassing anon
out of my depth? you making claims and cant back them up? there is no conversation here its just you posting drivel.
what happened to SEA?
>Thirdly, GDP PPP may be a comprehensive life expectancy contributor. For instance, populations with greater GDP PPP may have higher meat affordability, better medical service and better education level. Each factor may contribute to life expectancy in its unique way, but it is impossible to collect all these data and include them as the potential separate confounders in the data analyses to remove their competing effects on life expectancy.
Yeah people who can afford meat heavy diets also can afford better healthcare. Observational studies are so fricking stupid.
Red meat is inflammatory and chicken is better in every possible way.
>Putting aside the cancer risk, how dangerous are meat only diets long term?
I imagine you seriously lacking in certain nutrients. I struggle with keto initially and became malnourished. Can't imagine just kicking carbs cold turkey.
carbs are an essential part of a healthy diet.
They're optimal for human health. Its what we ate for most of our recent evolutionary history as indicated by stable isotope analysis
it wasn't possible to subsist primarily on plant food until the advent of agriculture so that's not really surprising. also there's a difference between a favorable diet for surviving in a pre-industrial world of high scarcity, and a favorable diet for maximizing long term health outcomes in our post-industrial world. a lot of the same evolutionary factors that helped us survive as we evolved are now the reason we're so shit at dealing with our modern food environment and we're all fat as shit
old ass humans were just trying to survive, not limiting risk factors for diabetes, circulatory diseases and cancer
>pre-industrial world of high scarcity
Misconception. Large fatty animals were plentiful and easy to kill. High risk but very high reward. Read about relatively modern elephant hunting for something somewhat similar
Agree or disagree: humans ate primarily meat because it was by far the most efficient and convenient way to survive.
That has changed now. It's easy for us to survive on a wide variety of diets. The goal is no longer just to survive, because the strategies to survive are numerous. The goal is to increase healthspan. Agree or disagree: increasing healthspan is a different goal from just surviving.
>That has changed now. It's easy for us to survive on a wide variety of diets. The goal is no longer just to survive, because the strategies to survive are numerous. The goal is to increase healthspan. Agree or disagree: increasing healthspan is a different goal from just surviving.
are are an absolute moron. humans thrived on a meat based diet and didnt have modern day diseases. now however everyone even corssing 40 is sick and on a bunch of pills by 50. diabetes, obesety and cancer abound. dental health in a horrible state despite availability of toothbrushes/paste and dentists. humans in a pre-agrricultural society showing absolutely no problems at all. healthspan? you are the dumbest, blackest gorilla Black person out there. frick off already.
humans have eaten meat only for millions of years. the vegan diet is literally taco bell. if you want processed foods then you should become vegan.
Why the frick would you. My main reason for going to the gym is so I can eat all the delicious foods this world has to offer without having to worry about turning into a fat slob.
Are you as much of an insufferable homosexual in real life as you are here?
>Are you as much of an insufferable homosexual in real life as you are here?
he cant be he isnt a vegan. you seem to be one though.
it isn't particularly dangerous at all as long as you eat organ meat to get micros and you eat enough in total to reach your tdee. the problem is that it's not optimal. if you want to build muscle efficiently you need carbs for energy. you also need to be in a surplus which is incredibly difficult on a meat only diet.
>Putting aside the cancer risk, how dangerous are meat only diets long term?
there is no risk. how is it long term? carnivore has been a thing for at least the last 400000 years for the modern human. Seems pretty safe to me.
if u wanna turn out like weepy gay peterson dude go for it lol
Starting monday I'm going full meme with carnivore diet and HIT training. Wish me luck, I'll report back in 2 months if I'm still alive.