Have any of you guys noticed past a certain age, unhealthy living takes a drastic toll on your appearance & wellbeing?
I just turned 25 and I've been very unhealthy to be honest. Sedentary lifestyle, lots of sugar and caffeine, bad sleep. Well I always looked and felt great so it was fine (I thought). But over this summer I started wasting away, and now I look like a sick person. Is this just how aging works? You're immune to damage up to a point, and then it all hits you & you look and feel like shit unless you're healthy?
I seriously look awful now, but maybe it's just because I don't take care of myself
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Idk asian and blacks seem to not age as bad
this
I'm 22 but everyone at uni thinks I'm 18 lol
t. hapamuttoid
anyways just keep taking care of yourself and don't worry about it too much.
>I’m a grown adult but people think I’m a teenager
Not the flex you think it is. Looking younger only becomes a flex after like 35. Also 99% of people think they look younger than they do, nobody in their 30s actually passes for 21 it’s just some shit that old people tell each other to convince themselves they’re “still young”
>Not a flex
Why?
>le 30 year old who swears he looks 21.png
> I'm 22 but everyone at uni thinks I'm 18 lol
Very funny that you think this is a flex.
Same, this old lady I was working for today thought I was 17 or 18 but I'm actually 24. I know she's old so her judgement is probably skewed a bit, but literally just avoid alcohol and drugs and drink a lot of water and you're good. Also try to moderate your time in the sun. This is the trick to age-maxxing
agreed, im 25 and black and the cashier was smiling hard at me at the grocery store today.
gonna frick my gf later tonight, idk
BBC.
Asians don't gain much weight and blacks look like shit since birth, can't look much worse.
>blacks look like shit since birth
Honestly they look better as babies which is fricked since babies are often compared to ugly old men
They procrastinate their aging. They age well until 60 then they look the same as everyone else.
their eyes are misshapen brown, yellow, and red they look inhuman meanwhile I have big round blue eyes that make me look like the young protagonist forever
I noticed that at like 15yo,always was good at sports so not like bad genes.Im just very sensitive to unhealthy living since I was very young.
No you probably are just getting FOMO as people your age have now got careers earning 100-200k salaries, houses, babies, perfect bodies etc. while you rot away.
I'm 32 and got mad FOMO for this
All my friends are married, have a property and are having kids.
I have a 156k salary which is more than all my friends except 1 guy, live at home and gonna break up with my long term gf today
I feel like I'm at least 3-5 years behind all my friends
>people your age have now got careers earning 100-200k salaries, houses,
literally everyone on fit has this
Yes but also I get told I look 19 and I'm 27. A lot of it is skincare and limiting goyslop. I noticed when I have ample cheat days my skin starts to look dull and tired. It's really obvious shit. Sleep, spf, decent diet, exercise, and find something that helps take your stresses away.
I am 32 and I feel much better now than when I was 20
>Is this just how aging works? You're immune to damage up to a point, and then it all hits you & you look and feel like shit unless you're healthy?
100000%.
Pretty much everything people associate with aging is actually just accumulated unhealthiness. 70 year olds running around and doing squats is rare only because people who workout are rare. Everyone can in theory be in shape, especially when growing old.
In fact, things like testosterone don't actually drop when you get older. It stays the same until like 70, and that's when it starts going down slowly.
What you see in the population is attributed to chronic disease/chronic problems people build up as they get older, and when you account for these, testosterone doesn't drop at all (said another way: you lose testosterone as a function of accumulated chronic problems, NOT age. You can avoid chronic problems by taking care of yourself health-wise).
The number 1 cause of preventable death is hypertension caused by sedentary lifestyle and poor diet choice.
>In fact, things like testosterone don't actually drop when you get older. It stays the same until like 70, and that's when it starts going down slowly.
These days I even read about how the shrinking attributed to aging can be limited/avoided through deadhanging.
It sounds like life really is a use it or lose it type situation
>In fact, things like testosterone don't actually drop when you get older. It stays the same until like 70, and that's when it starts going down slowly.
This. This was proven in a landmark Australian study. The whole, "muh test drops 2% per year after 30" doesn't happen to total testosterone if you stay healthy and have regular sex/masturbation. But many guys become less healthy, fatter, have sex/jerk off less as they age due to busy stressful lifestyle which causes test to start dropping.
I made a comparison pic. This isn't all in my head right? My looks are dropping so bad, maybe I'm sick
The pedophile hair definitely isn't doing you any favors
My hair began falling out at the same time this started, idk why
I am. Too soon to see results though. Just wondering if maybe I've got a bigger sickness and it's not just bad nutrition
The hair does look a lot more ecourse and dry. If you have not already it can help to get a hormone panel done among other blood tests. I did this and found out I was deficient in a few things and my hormones were out of whack.
just drink more water and eat more veggies
get more sleep man
Looks like went from early 20s to mid 30s in 1 year. Yeah I noticed it. The eye area and the chudline area
/misc/ lines.
try to get enough sleep and drink more water. consider a simple skincare routine, just a cleanser and a moisturizer.
I drink tons of water (though I have coffee too), cleanse & moisturize with toner 2x a day, doesn't really put a dent in it.
Yeah I've had fricked up sleep for years but it didn't hit me that badly. Then suddenly this happens, jesus christ
I guess I can ask my doctor, thanks
Lack of sleep will catch up with you. Use sleeping pills temporarily to try and get a regular schedule. It'll take awhile but you can become rested again.
Literally in your head. All differences are minutia shit and light.
Get a good haircut and take care of your hair.
Wash your face. Shave your beard.
Done.
If you are asking "do I look older as I get older?" shocker, the answer is yes.
I do all that stuff already except the haircut. I just look like shit now and idk why. Hair texture is ruined, face is dry and skin pigmentation is bad, skin is loose, dark circles. Wtf happened
Overtraining
Don't listen to this tard. The hair is such low hanging fruit. You can clearly see the eye and nasolabial lines forming.
The chud line has been there for years but the eye lines are new. This all happened over the course of a few months. I really dont know whether it's just aging + unhealthy or if its a real disease at this point
Bro aged like milk
Bro of course it is because you're not taking care of yourself. What do you expect? Do you really think your body starts to degrade at age 25 from age? Add 15-20 years to that.
It must have been a long 15 months
>sedentary lifestyle, lots of sugar and caffeine, bad sleep
Fix these things moron. You didn’t age you just stopped giving a frick about your health and appearance and it shows.
I've always been doing those things, does an unhealthy lifestyle really hit you that quickly?
Yes. Your mid 20s is usually the age where the life choices you made in your youth start to show. There’s a reason so many people start to get fat and “hit the wall” after college.
Good thing is you’re in your prime and you can undo a lot of the damage before your 26th. But you need to get your shit together NOW. Because every year after 25 that you wait to get in shape, it’s only going to be harder.
I thought a bad diet and sleep was just some shit that slowly wore you down over time. Not a force of nature that just hits you like a truck once you hit a certain age. Is that shit really reversible? I might just an hero if it's not
>12/03/22
Did you have fun working with Madds?
I think you're still hot, if it makes you feel any better.
normal loss of baby fat in the face. happens during the 20's sometime.
It’s from overtraining, it started happening to me, dial it back and get some rest
You look fine all the way to July. I don't think people age that much in a short 3-4 months. Are you sure you don't have some deficiency? I echo the anon suggesting a blood test.
I got my blood work done recently and they said its all fine as usual except lack of vitamin D which I'm supplementing
The air quality in my home is supposedly bad, I moved to a new place around March and I fear I'm breathing in shitty air. I haven't had breathing issues or other health problems though, just appearance which has tanked. I didn't even have any stress or booze during that time period
Also soon after moving to my new place, I started losing serious amounts of hair all over the head, and my hair texture went to shit as well which you can see in the pics. Even for a person suffering hair loss, the texture of the hair is super bad and it just looks terrible.
Yeah, your skin also got worse. Maybe a hormone panel then like the anon said.
Check ferritin levels on blood test. Also b12 levels. Dull skin and hair loss is very common with those deficiencies.
Ferritin is iron storage
You have a permanent case of pic related
>Have any of you guys noticed past a certain age, unhealthy living takes a drastic toll on your appearance & wellbeing?
Yeah. Looked up some people from highschool on LinkedIn and a lot of them looked downright ghoulish despite being on their mid twenties. It's actually what kick-started my return to the gym and looksmaxxing.
It's the vax.
>The vax made the fat edgelord get bald, develop an egghead and a pube beard and look like a 40 yo man
>also made my old crush look like that picture of walled Emma Watson and bogged the blond thot beyond oblivion
Grim stuff.
Yeah. So I’ve been fixing it.
Granted this has always been the case but it’s much worse past 25. For multiple reasons, it doesn’t just actually hit you harder, but others perception of you is far more critical at this age.
>get shitty sleep, look like shit, bags under eyes, etc
>people assume you don’t give a frick, or you’re having marital problems or drug issues or that you’re some loser who gets wasted the night before work
Vs
>same thing but ages 18-24
>people assume you’re young and we’re out with friends and it’s no big deal
Like, if you ate like shit and were fat as a kid, you were still fat and seen as a fatty. But as an adult it’s not just you’re fat, but you’re seen as incredibly weak and irresponsible, you’ve had this long to get it together and nothing? Really?
If that makes sense. That’s how it’s viewed.
So eliminate unhealthy shit, make a valiant effort to always present your best. Unironically look at professional nigs in work places and get some idea. You’ll notice dress clothes/business casual stuff fits them perfectly. Little details like that. Go to a tailor if you must. Get haircuts routinely. Don’t drink, at all. Eat healthy. Get sunlight. Develop a mobility routine to prevent injuries/stay mobile and flexible. Never go above 15% body fat. Idc if you fell short of goals, the second you hit 15% it’s time to start cutting again.
Chill out man. Plenty of people eat fast food or "unhealthy" food, or drink, or smoke and look great when older. Just chill the frick out and do what you enjoy and you'll be back to your normal self.
>Plenty of people eat fast food or "unhealthy" food, or drink, or smoke and look great when older
What if you do those things and hit the wall young? Not sure what you mean
I mean that these things don't make you hit the wall young.
Then what does? I live a 0 stress lifestyle, no smoking, no boozing, just sugar+caffeine+sedentary+awful sleep
So you're telling me you're not stressing about the fact you eat sugar, drink caffeine, move little, or not sleep enough? It seems to me from this thread that's basically all you're doing.
By the way ray peat would say this sugar, caffeine, and little movement is actually keeping you healthy and alive.
I wasn't stressing until I noticed my appearance had sharply declined despite having the same lifestyle
>36 boomer
no I have not. I live mostly healthy. Working out 6x per week and not eating to much goyslop so my body can actually handle certain unhealthy things better than when I was 20. I can easily function on 5-6hours of sleep for weeks, better recovery overall and better mental health since my life is mostly stable. Shit is all in your head my neggro.
This is unironically how women hit the wall. You can coast for awhile treating your body like total shit if you have decent genetics. But your metabolism will slow, poisons will build up, and you will eventually have to pay the physical debt you're running up. Not too late, though. Take it as a wake up call.
Bros do you think my beard is aging me? Also I feel I aged 10 years in the last two YEARS. I don’t know what’s happening but it’s scary. In the 29 pic I was with my ex and now I’m lonely and miserable. FRICK
You look more masculine. Your skin and hair look better too.
>You look more masculine
yeah girls dont like masculine because that means AGING. He should shave if he doesn't want to be an incel anymore
delusional
this
you look much better at 31
Yeah I'm convinced we don't really age in terms of years you're kind of just the same until something snaps internally and then it's like 10 years and 6 months
shave it and don't look back
Is it that bad?
you said it yourself, beards just age people for no reason
how come all this generic shit always applies to me?
I didn't start working out and eating right until I was 29. I'm 31 today, and I definitely feel better than I did before, but I never felt like I was gonna be dead soon from my old habits.
You can still turn it around
I hope you have a nice day I'm tired of these Wojack threads you're frickin evil perpetuating this weird suicide torture porn it's not fun anymore it's gay
yeah dude, has no one ever told you something like "all that is gonna catch up to you"? strangely, i took better care of myself as a teenager (healthy diet most of the time, exercise, regular sleep, no drugs/smoking/alcohol) than i do now (smoke/drink occasionally, sleep is all over the place, exercise is just walking and lifting) and i look a lot better now, probably because i've put on muscle. however, i do feel like absolute shit unless i stretch every day. getting old is hell if you let it be.
>lots of sugar and caffeine, bad sleep
Caffeine blocks collagen production in the body, and makes your hair go gray prematurely through reducing blood flow. Carbs frick up your skin and hair, too. Anon, stop all that for six months and report back.
It gets worse quickly 26+. I finally was able to stop drinking because of how awful I looked the next day. Late teens/early 20s you can indulge bad habits with zero consequences, however as you get older you start needing to be more honest with yourself or you wall hard
I have looked meh for most of my life but I look better now at 28 except when I was in better shape as a 20 year old.
Thats life as long as you feel healthy thats what counts most.
>tfw havent had a night without waking up in pain in 3 weeks
I dunno wtf is wrong with me but I noticed the opposite happened to me. I started eating healthy, working out, being more active, and I have literally never felt worse, never slept so bad, and my face, which was always more youthful looking than my age, has aged like 10 years. Also my bowel movements are all of a sudden totally fricked up since starting to do everything "the right way"
I became obsessed with working out and eating right around the age of 23. I’m 29 now, turning 30 in a few months, and people regularly assume I am 24 or 25 years old.
You can definitely slow aging through diet and exercise
>29
>Still not any stronger than when I was in college
>Developing tinnitus
>Eyesight has gotten worse
>Friends moved away and now have no social life
I was a fatfrick from 17 to 25 or so, at 25 covid hit and I lost 100 pounds and gained a shitload of muscle while running. Now i'm 29 and the best shape of my life. My friends who weren't fatasses decided to become fatasses during covid and they all have back problems and joint issues now. Most of them are also balding but I feel like thats more of an age thing than a lifestyle thing.
The wall is real for both genders I didn't age between 19 and 30. Now
, approaching 31 I've had problems staying hard, broke my left radius and ulna, hurt my back deadhanging of all things and it never really healed, now my lower back feels seized up and stiff every time I sit too long. I tore something in my right forearm doing barbell curls. I got a vicious, vicious flu I thought Iwas going to cough myself literally to death in phlegm and after getting over it with a dry cough still prevalent I tore something coughing in the meat below my right scapula around my ribs. It sounded like grabbing a rotisserie chicken and ripping it in half and felt like tearing cardboard. Now when I cough it's like being stabbed from the inside out and I can't lift despite feeling otherwise ok.
Never had an injury more than a couple of days before 30.
I'll say I look pretty good and everyone assumes I'm 24 but it's like my constitution just cratered over the course of a year.
Used to have a better diet and sleep when I was living in a small rural village
Mostly because I would always eat homemade food, for the first 15 years of my life we were kind of poor and my parents didn't have money to buy sweets, junk food and sodas, too often. This helped me and my brother development
We didn't even use oil that much cooking, mostly grease melted by ourselves from yearly slaying 2 pigs
I'm Romanian
im 30 and people at my new job thought i was 20, i will mogg them all when im 40 its gonna be insane. Youre still young for a man, you have to stop drinking alocohol, its a cuck beverage thats the most estrogenic you can drink, might aswell mix it with onions if youre gonna drink alcohol. Do your best to get a night and morning routine for sleepgains, and start researching a skincare routine. you are coping that its cause of age, you dont want to do the work, its easier to just say that ur fricked. you are a pussyass b***h, you would mog yourself one year from now if you would just try 10% more moron
>tldr i will make it and you are fricking stupid
I'll try to live as long without having to work, see how my peak physical body looks like, consume most of worthwhile media, and just kill myself before 40
Usually these sorts of memes hit a bit close to home but this one just doesn't do it tbhq. 4/10.
I'm 28
Each year there's one less thing I can get away with.
Now if I get "the kind of tired that sleep won't fix" eyes if I don't get consistent 8 hours of sleep every night.
Last year it was my face skin, and I had to get a skin care system to keep it clear