This shit is scary and potent.
My test went to 190 to 1400 in 3 weeks.
Took for 3 months, i quit and five months later my levers are still around 900.
E2 skyrocketed too btw, but the most importat thing is the t:E2 ratio that need to be 20:1 max
>gains
Yes, not strenght but it was like my first ''idiot cycle'' i did at College (30mg Legit Anavar + 150mg test). A little bloat first weeks that went away >mood
A beast at the gym and almost priapism with every morning wood.
I almost ended flirting with a 17 years old zoomette at the gym (it's legal il my country), i just stopped when i realized the age gap.
Last week of the cycle i was like a queer/sissy, probabily too high E2 or the SERM action against hypotalamus receptors.
I higly recommend to use a weak AI after the first week (like Arimistane or 6 Bromo)
12.5 EOD, damn. that almost sounds like despite the higher cost of enclo, the potency would actually make it cheaper than regular clomid. ive been taking 20mg clomid ED for about 12 weeks and im debating just staying on it forever, im getting all the benefits and 0 side effects.
>I almost ended flirting with a 17 years old zoomette at the gym (it's legal il my country), i just stopped when i realized the age gap.
literal homosexual mindbroken by twitter trannies
>Her dad is a local mafia boss, i don't want to end in a concrete box in the bottom of the Danube
You should just get in tight with him, go to the same church, present yourself well and wife her up when she's 18
have a nice day, you fricking pedo groomer. stop suggesting that actual pedophilia, like trannies raping few year old kids is just the same as having sex with a fully developed 17 y.o. woman. you purposefully misusse precisely defined words, because you're trying to blurr the line between pedophilia and heterosexuality to make to former seem more normal. you should be shot.
>Took for 3 months, i quit and five months later my levers are still around 900.
That's insane
>gains
Yes, not strenght but it was like my first ''idiot cycle'' i did at College (30mg Legit Anavar + 150mg test). A little bloat first weeks that went away >mood
A beast at the gym and almost priapism with every morning wood.
I almost ended flirting with a 17 years old zoomette at the gym (it's legal il my country), i just stopped when i realized the age gap.
Last week of the cycle i was like a queer/sissy, probabily too high E2 or the SERM action against hypotalamus receptors.
I higly recommend to use a weak AI after the first week (like Arimistane or 6 Bromo)
I took 12,5mg EOD of enclo
>Last week of the cycle i was like a queer/sissy
Ngl I think you took too much for too long anon. I plan on taking half the reccomend dose every other day with osterine for just over a month.
BTW did you bulk or cut when you were on it?
Bro it's a month long osterine cycle at low dosages with a small serm cycle to stop the suppression. The point is I don't want to hop on on test, completely shut myself down, lose my gains etc.
lmao it's literally the same with every single one of them >reddit tourist spam some bullshit studies not even related to the bullshit he's preaching >gets told >ineptly tries to defend his bullshit missing the point even more >gets told again, which breaks him to the point of giving up and spamming coomer memes
8 months ago
Anonymous
Debate me, I think masturbation and porn are harmful, what do you think?
8 months ago
Anonymous
of course the cuck can't even fathom separating those two. the had to basically undergo something akin to AA brainwashing and stop ejaculating completely just to stop looking at girls getting fricked by other men. as I said, you may as well just troon out and cut off your balls at this point, if you want to completely get rid of masculine physiological funtions, instead of castrating yourself the long way
8 months ago
Anonymous
Is this an A.I bot?
8 months ago
Anonymous
lel broken cuck isn't even trying anymore
8 months ago
Anonymous
Is this an A.I bot?
of course the cuck can't even fathom separating those two. the had to basically undergo something akin to AA brainwashing and stop ejaculating completely just to stop looking at girls getting fricked by other men. as I said, you may as well just troon out and cut off your balls at this point, if you want to completely get rid of masculine physiological funtions, instead of castrating yourself the long way
I’d rather frick your sister and mother
Debate me, I think masturbation and porn are harmful, what do you think?
can you guys at least pretend to be on topic
8 months ago
Anonymous
some redditor started spamming unrelated moronic bullshit and people got mad
8 months ago
Anonymous
>unrelated moronic bullshit
You are mad as frick
Everyone gets mad when confronted with the truth.
8 months ago
Anonymous
everyone gets mad at tourists peddling their moronic bullshit, with an apparent congnitive disability at that, same with discord trannies on /misc/
A lot of people who use SERMs to raise their test says that they don't feel like their test is higher and sometimes they actually feel worse. These SERMS also bind to estrogen receptors in the brain which will have some kind of psychological effect, seemingly negative in many cases.
Yeah exactly. Something like this is fine if you just need to have a baby or see if it helps to get you on a better track when your balls suck too much, but long term use is risky. It powerfully blocks estrogen signalling in the hypothalamus-pituitary axis but it's going to do other weird things. It's apparently a more specific version of clomiphene, which has very nasty long term side effects like vision loss, but the long term effects of enclomiphene are unknown.
>It's apparently a more specific version of clomiphene, which has very nasty long term side effects like vision loss, but the long term effects of enclomiphene are unknown.
clomid is actually comprised of enclomiphene and zuclomiphene. The zucomiphene is estrogenic and problematic, and the enclomiphine is the main active ingredient of clomid that is responsible for boosting testosterone. So scientists isolated the encomiphene as a standalone drug with lesser side effects than clomiphene.
enclomiphene should have at least some of the side effects of the parent drug clomiphene.
literally almost posted that in response. enclomiphene is the isomer responsible for binding to the E2 receptors and nullifying the ability for anything to bind to them. zuclomiphene works as an estrogen receptor agonist, which is the exact opposite effect you want to increase testosterone via the positive feedback loop. estradiol is an estrogen receptor agonist lol.
ive never tried enclomiphene, i love regular clomiphene it makes me feel amazing. so i wonder if enclomiphene would just make me feel no different, because im guessing the zuclomiphene agonizing my e2 receptors is giving me those estrogen like effects as well as increasing my testosterone. i almost wonder if enclomiphene conversely would make me feel like shit, because ive taken a ton of aromitase inihibitors before and nuked my estradiol to 0, i feel absolutely fricking awful when i have no estrogen receptor activity.
im almost positive if it increases testosterone it will increase estrogen via aromitase, but the question boils down to how selective enclomiphene is. does it only bind to estrogen receptors in the pituitary, or does it bind to all receptors in the body?
binding to the E2 receptor and rendering it inert is the exact same as having no estrogen in the body at all. and having no estrogenic activity on the brain and heart cause neurotoxicity and cardiotoxicity. probably not a problem if not chronically megadosing and keeping all receptors in the body bound at all times, as well as the fact that it IS selective. so if its highly selective for only the receptors in the pituitary, then those are complete non issues as the increase in E2 will still bind to the heart, brain etc providing all of the protective properties
Not sure it is more dangerous as far as the studies go. However it won't put you past your natty levels, so it's not really worth it over just living healthy.
I have some on the sidelines ready for when I finish my cut. You can't take it long term because you have receptors all over your body including your eyes and it can temporarily mess with your vision. A month cycle should be fine though.
>Nolvadex kills IGF-1 and muscle stem cell differentiations.
I think I remember reading that study a long time ago, but wasn't it just minimal and temporary, and caused by growth hormone reduction (could probably be limited by something like MK 677 if that's the case)? otherwise people wouldn't experience such decent gains while on it.
the problem with MK as a long halflife ghrelin secretagogue is you lose substantial insulin sensitivity while also being very hungry. muscles actually take up glucose less effectively so you don't grow well and frick up your A1C score. the main benefit would be occasionally healing up connective tissue a little faster along with having a better night's sleep.
MK-677's effects on insulin sensitivity are way overblown. for most people it does not cause that much of an increase in HGH and IGF-1 levels, and subsequently does not have that detrimental of an effect on insulin production.
in fact MK-677 doesnt affect insulin all, its the increased HGH that would have an effect. and since MK-677 effects everyone differently its potency and side effects vary wildly from person to person.
>MK-677's effects on insulin sensitivity are way overblown
sure, if you aren't eating enough. people who are eating to gain muscle effectively will see terrible increases in blood sugar with continuous use >its the increased HGH that would have an effect.
no, MK is doubly bad. the GH/IGF is one thing, but high ghrelin shuts down insulin sensitivity. it's normally released from the stomach to indicate a lack of food in the pipeline and to stop tissues from being greedy with blood glucose. it's not smart to artificially combine that signal with a surplus of food. people who do their labs on MK will find this out anyway, regardless of what the mechanism is.
most of the drugs used for PCT are actually pretty fricking great on their own and don't cause suppression. along with good supplementation i feel like most guys that don't want to be bodybuilders, but do want an andro/ano edge, could probably get what they want, much more safely, with PCT classed drugs.
If you want more test you just need to stop jerking off
Did you know that masturbation hinder your gains and porn will frick your brain up? Plus sexual abstinence has some pretty unbeliveable benefits:
https://imgur.io/gallery/g4eGH
Here are some studies:
Three weeks of abstinence increases testostorone levelshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-beinghttps://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681994.2019.1677883
Sperm contains compounds that prolong lifespan, fight cancer & heart diseasehttps://vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu/spermidine-rich-foods-may-prevent-liver-cancer-extend-lifespan/
Watching porn reduces gray matter in prefrontal cortexhttps://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574
Porn addiction has similar mechanism with substance addictionhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/
Making sperm shortens lifespan of male wormshttps://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/03/us/in-worm-at-least-making-sperm-is-found-to-shorten-a-male-s-life.html
jerking off 3 days in a row decreases sperm count by 20%https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2054949
Increasing ejaculation frequency decreases sperm count significantlyhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15497706
Prevalence of erectile dysfunction doubled between 2004 and 2013http://cir.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Genital-Image-Sexual-Anxiety-and-Erectile-Dysfunction-Among-Young-Male-Military-Personnel.pdf
Pornography consumption is associated with mental health issueshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6327603/
>3 week period >worms >porn >sperm count
no shit the sperm count will decrease until the body has enough time to replenish it. there's nothing in these studies about total abstinence of masturbation having an effect on testosterone, or even having any beneficial effect whatsoever. the optimal ejeculation frequency is about once per week, more often decreases testosterone a bit, but when the body detects no prolactin spikes associated with ejeculation for a long time, it basically shuts down test production. typical nofap cultist trying to attribute vaguely related studies to his meme, just like the first reddi post that started this bullshit, which referenced mostly porn, as if they can't even fathom a possibility to cum without seeing clouseups on some guy's dick
you realize that the bullshit you're trying to preach applies to any ejaculation, even more so in with a girl, as it produces about 4 times more prolactin than fapping, right? so just troon out, cut of your balls and be done with it, so you won't be tempted to watch Black person dicks in your cuck porn anyomre (the only way to fap according to the likes of you, remember), instead of slowly castrating yourself.
>coomer
I fricking knew it, they are so mindbroken, they all act and speak literally the same, it's a literal hivemind
so this is the power of the nofap arguments? remember, you're not allowed to have sex, it increases prolactin levels 4 times as much as masturbation. you're only allowed to watch how she gets fricked while sitting in the cornes and fighting the urge to fap (by your admission, watching women get fricked in porn is the same as ejaculation for you)
8 months ago
Anonymous
This dude has been posting dumb shit all day and getting blasted for it lol
People that wasnt in the thread will not understand the meme
Why the chud face? Plus the text leaves coomers looking bad, and the background image confuses people.
8 months ago
Anonymous
There, is this better?
8 months ago
Anonymous
The text in the OP, plus the imgur link, doesnt help you. Plus the pic could be anyone. And it feels like you are trying too hard. Re do it
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nah it's good enough for people to understand that as you tell people that jerking off somehow makes you inferior, you sleep on a dirty mattress in your mom's basement and lie about getting pussy on the Internet.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>jerking off somehow makes you inferior
So you think chads getting laid are on the same leven as incel cumbrains?
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's not even worth engaging with you because your arguments are so dumb. Just keep spamming this board with your dumb nofap shit.
8 months ago
Anonymous
So you wont answer my question? I guess I win this argument then.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yes you win. Someday I will be a Chad like you and sleep on a dirty mattress and get no b***hes. Then I will preach weird pseudoscience shit from the 1800s on the Internet.Thank you for giving me life-changing perspective.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Didnt asnwer my question
So you wont answer my question? I guess I win this argument then.
You sound mad btw
8 months ago
Anonymous
Chads beat it like 10 times a day btw. Most of them also binge porn on their phones pretty constantly.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You expect me to take your response seriously? You guys are not even trying at this point.
8 months ago
Anonymous
am chad, can confirm
8 months ago
Anonymous
I’d rather frick your sister and mother
8 months ago
Anonymous
>pic
absolutely based. literally real-life postal dude
That's a simplistic misleading graph.
Heres a graph that actually measures the prolactin rise in real people.
The rise is short lived.
Also the rise in prolactin after sex with a real woman is 400% greater than when mastrubating. So, according to nofap theory, real sex is even worse for you.
it's hilarious how he's disproven the "scientific" basis of your whole moronic nofap bullshit with just one pic and you lack mental capability to even realise that, your imaginary women notwithstanding. having sex would make you even a lower test according to
https://i.imgur.com/y0VeIuu.jpg
Bla bla bla coomer shut the frick up, go watch some girl get fricked cuck
so how is it, you're a moron posting bullshit, or are "coomer" higher test than you?
8 months ago
Anonymous
You won mate. I will start banging my hand, for real.
Frick fricking women, that shit is unhealthy as frick right?
8 months ago
Anonymous
the only person claiming that fricking women is unhealthy is you
https://i.imgur.com/y0VeIuu.jpg
Bla bla bla coomer shut the frick up, go watch some girl get fricked cuck
https://i.imgur.com/fnMbmii.jpg
That's a simplistic misleading graph.
Heres a graph that actually measures the prolactin rise in real people.
The rise is short lived.
Also the rise in prolactin after sex with a real woman is 400% greater than when mastrubating. So, according to nofap theory, real sex is even worse for you.
unless you admit you're a moronic redditor with barely enough mental capacity for marvel movies, let alone trying to understand scientific studies
>if you don't get it fully erect on a regular basis.
I wake with a morning wood that could rip through my boxers if tried.
Coomers dont know what to come up with to cope, so sad...
thanks. just ordered a bottle. it's expensive as frick compared with the stores that ship to the US only. I intended to run 25mg daily for 8 weeks, but I guess I'll have to do 12.5mg for 4 weeks instead, because I didn't want to buy more of a substance I'd never taken before from a store I'd never ordered from. would it be moronic to preceed 4weeks of enclomifene with a month of nolvadex 20mg, which I can get for a fraction of the price?
if youre taking this by itself take it every three days or so, youll get the test boost but because the half life is so short after a day and half or so your estrogen receptors will be freed up and youll have normal estrogen activty again, then repeat the cycle with the next dose
np, and also a tip, the "research chemical" variety is usually an ethenal based liquid and it burns the shit out of your mouth if you put under your tongue for sublingual absorption, what i do is take a swig of a drink like tea or something then take the enclo and let it absorb under the tongue for like 30 seconds
do you know if the site from the OP is legit? researchem.store
8 months ago
Anonymous
yeah its legit, ive been buying from them for several months now, the only problem is payments are a pain in the ass unless youre familiar with crypto or have a zelle account or whatever
8 months ago
Anonymous
nice. thanks again
personally I find crypto payments convenient because I usually already have some lying around and I don't have to trust anyone with credit card numbers, or have to juggle prepaid cards. just send some eth with metamask and maybe get a discount on top of it
8 months ago
Anonymous
its also a good idea to follow them on instagram because theyve fricked up several of my orders (just straight up missing items) and have had to reach out them so they can resolve it, but theyve always sent me what was missing
8 months ago
Anonymous
i dont think you have to acutally follow them btw, thats just the only way i know to get a hold of them
8 months ago
Anonymous
dunno how much they monitor it but their website does list a contact email address [email protected]
if I use too much (normal dose) I get angry one hour then emotional crying the next hour. then too depressed to even workout. and sleepy.
so it does something for sure but frick that.
not sure how useful it is very small doses.
turns you gay
>does nothing
U turn to troony
This shit is scary and potent.
My test went to 190 to 1400 in 3 weeks.
Took for 3 months, i quit and five months later my levers are still around 900.
E2 skyrocketed too btw, but the most importat thing is the t:E2 ratio that need to be 20:1 max
Any changes to your mood/energy levels and did you notice increased gains?
>gains
Yes, not strenght but it was like my first ''idiot cycle'' i did at College (30mg Legit Anavar + 150mg test). A little bloat first weeks that went away
>mood
A beast at the gym and almost priapism with every morning wood.
I almost ended flirting with a 17 years old zoomette at the gym (it's legal il my country), i just stopped when i realized the age gap.
Last week of the cycle i was like a queer/sissy, probabily too high E2 or the SERM action against hypotalamus receptors.
I higly recommend to use a weak AI after the first week (like Arimistane or 6 Bromo)
I took 12,5mg EOD of enclo
> I became a sissy trap when taking anavar and 6 bromo but it was definitely due to the enclo
12.5 EOD, damn. that almost sounds like despite the higher cost of enclo, the potency would actually make it cheaper than regular clomid. ive been taking 20mg clomid ED for about 12 weeks and im debating just staying on it forever, im getting all the benefits and 0 side effects.
>I almost ended flirting with a 17 years old zoomette at the gym (it's legal il my country), i just stopped when i realized the age gap.
literal homosexual mindbroken by twitter trannies
Her dad is a local mafia boss, i don't want to end in a concrete box in the bottom of the Danube
>Her dad is a local mafia boss, i don't want to end in a concrete box in the bottom of the Danube
You should just get in tight with him, go to the same church, present yourself well and wife her up when she's 18
so why did you mention the age gap, like we're on reddit, and not this?
To be fair to him, whether it's reddit cringe or not, people will find it weird of you mess around d with a 17 yo
literal pedo mindbroken by IST incels
have a nice day, you fricking pedo groomer. stop suggesting that actual pedophilia, like trannies raping few year old kids is just the same as having sex with a fully developed 17 y.o. woman. you purposefully misusse precisely defined words, because you're trying to blurr the line between pedophilia and heterosexuality to make to former seem more normal. you should be shot.
>A beast at the gym and almost priapism with every morning wood.
kek. Checked.
t. researchchemstore shill
>shill
No way
I'm in the EU, i was deluded by Nolva and regular Clomid and i tried something different
>Took for 3 months, i quit and five months later my levers are still around 900.
That's insane
>Last week of the cycle i was like a queer/sissy
Ngl I think you took too much for too long anon. I plan on taking half the reccomend dose every other day with osterine for just over a month.
BTW did you bulk or cut when you were on it?
I took 12,5mg every other day. I think that 6,25 ir even 3 EOD will be fine for everyone.
>Inb4 Redditors take 25mg DAILY
Yes, we know they're weird
I was after an heavy cut
Nice, thanks
why all these sarms when you could just run a test cycle which is relatively harmless and has well documented (long term) side effects
Bro it's a month long osterine cycle at low dosages with a small serm cycle to stop the suppression. The point is I don't want to hop on on test, completely shut myself down, lose my gains etc.
>with osterine
I did that too thrice
Just expect like a mild anavar /tbol cycle gains with some sides
Link for source?
https://imgur.io/gallery/g4eGH
go back to redit with your anecdotal circlejerk, moron
lmao it's literally the same with every single one of them
>reddit tourist spam some bullshit studies not even related to the bullshit he's preaching
>gets told
>ineptly tries to defend his bullshit missing the point even more
>gets told again, which breaks him to the point of giving up and spamming coomer memes
Debate me, I think masturbation and porn are harmful, what do you think?
of course the cuck can't even fathom separating those two. the had to basically undergo something akin to AA brainwashing and stop ejaculating completely just to stop looking at girls getting fricked by other men. as I said, you may as well just troon out and cut off your balls at this point, if you want to completely get rid of masculine physiological funtions, instead of castrating yourself the long way
Is this an A.I bot?
lel broken cuck isn't even trying anymore
can you guys at least pretend to be on topic
some redditor started spamming unrelated moronic bullshit and people got mad
>unrelated moronic bullshit
You are mad as frick
Everyone gets mad when confronted with the truth.
everyone gets mad at tourists peddling their moronic bullshit, with an apparent congnitive disability at that, same with discord trannies on /misc/
this
A lot of people who use SERMs to raise their test says that they don't feel like their test is higher and sometimes they actually feel worse. These SERMS also bind to estrogen receptors in the brain which will have some kind of psychological effect, seemingly negative in many cases.
Yeah exactly. Something like this is fine if you just need to have a baby or see if it helps to get you on a better track when your balls suck too much, but long term use is risky. It powerfully blocks estrogen signalling in the hypothalamus-pituitary axis but it's going to do other weird things. It's apparently a more specific version of clomiphene, which has very nasty long term side effects like vision loss, but the long term effects of enclomiphene are unknown.
>It's apparently a more specific version of clomiphene, which has very nasty long term side effects like vision loss, but the long term effects of enclomiphene are unknown.
clomid is actually comprised of enclomiphene and zuclomiphene. The zucomiphene is estrogenic and problematic, and the enclomiphine is the main active ingredient of clomid that is responsible for boosting testosterone. So scientists isolated the encomiphene as a standalone drug with lesser side effects than clomiphene.
enclomiphene should have at least some of the side effects of the parent drug clomiphene.
literally almost posted that in response. enclomiphene is the isomer responsible for binding to the E2 receptors and nullifying the ability for anything to bind to them. zuclomiphene works as an estrogen receptor agonist, which is the exact opposite effect you want to increase testosterone via the positive feedback loop. estradiol is an estrogen receptor agonist lol.
ive never tried enclomiphene, i love regular clomiphene it makes me feel amazing. so i wonder if enclomiphene would just make me feel no different, because im guessing the zuclomiphene agonizing my e2 receptors is giving me those estrogen like effects as well as increasing my testosterone. i almost wonder if enclomiphene conversely would make me feel like shit, because ive taken a ton of aromitase inihibitors before and nuked my estradiol to 0, i feel absolutely fricking awful when i have no estrogen receptor activity.
I don't think enclo nukes estrogen, in fact i'm pretty sure it increases it and only blocks it's action in the CNS.
im almost positive if it increases testosterone it will increase estrogen via aromitase, but the question boils down to how selective enclomiphene is. does it only bind to estrogen receptors in the pituitary, or does it bind to all receptors in the body?
binding to the E2 receptor and rendering it inert is the exact same as having no estrogen in the body at all. and having no estrogenic activity on the brain and heart cause neurotoxicity and cardiotoxicity. probably not a problem if not chronically megadosing and keeping all receptors in the body bound at all times, as well as the fact that it IS selective. so if its highly selective for only the receptors in the pituitary, then those are complete non issues as the increase in E2 will still bind to the heart, brain etc providing all of the protective properties
>Something like this is fine if you just need to have a baby
How would this help you have a baby
>take drugs more dangerous than plain test
>totally natty bruh
Not sure it is more dangerous as far as the studies go. However it won't put you past your natty levels, so it's not really worth it over just living healthy.
Isnt that a PCT, why the frick would you solo run it?
It increases test production without fricking up your natural processes.
doctors use it to treat low testosterone, usually as an option other than testosterone injections.
I have some on the sidelines ready for when I finish my cut. You can't take it long term because you have receptors all over your body including your eyes and it can temporarily mess with your vision. A month cycle should be fine though.
>causes permanent blurry vision
nothing personel bro
just use nolvadex, raises the test just the same without potential permanent sides
Nolvadex kills IGF-1 and muscle stem cell differentiations.
Enclo seems safe than proper Clomind with floaters btw
>Nolvadex kills IGF-1 and muscle stem cell differentiations.
I think I remember reading that study a long time ago, but wasn't it just minimal and temporary, and caused by growth hormone reduction (could probably be limited by something like MK 677 if that's the case)? otherwise people wouldn't experience such decent gains while on it.
the problem with MK as a long halflife ghrelin secretagogue is you lose substantial insulin sensitivity while also being very hungry. muscles actually take up glucose less effectively so you don't grow well and frick up your A1C score. the main benefit would be occasionally healing up connective tissue a little faster along with having a better night's sleep.
MK-677's effects on insulin sensitivity are way overblown. for most people it does not cause that much of an increase in HGH and IGF-1 levels, and subsequently does not have that detrimental of an effect on insulin production.
in fact MK-677 doesnt affect insulin all, its the increased HGH that would have an effect. and since MK-677 effects everyone differently its potency and side effects vary wildly from person to person.
>MK-677's effects on insulin sensitivity are way overblown
sure, if you aren't eating enough. people who are eating to gain muscle effectively will see terrible increases in blood sugar with continuous use
>its the increased HGH that would have an effect.
no, MK is doubly bad. the GH/IGF is one thing, but high ghrelin shuts down insulin sensitivity. it's normally released from the stomach to indicate a lack of food in the pipeline and to stop tissues from being greedy with blood glucose. it's not smart to artificially combine that signal with a surplus of food. people who do their labs on MK will find this out anyway, regardless of what the mechanism is.
any exogenous steroid/test will cause your sperm to preferentially be X instead of Y carriers.
you'll have nothing but daughters
that's nonsense, lots of athletes and pro bbers who are all juiced to the gills have sons
But enclomifene boosts endogenous test production.
i've actually been thinking along these lines.
most of the drugs used for PCT are actually pretty fricking great on their own and don't cause suppression. along with good supplementation i feel like most guys that don't want to be bodybuilders, but do want an andro/ano edge, could probably get what they want, much more safely, with PCT classed drugs.
even injecting literal test is usually disappointing for most people
If you want more test you just need to stop jerking off
Did you know that masturbation hinder your gains and porn will frick your brain up? Plus sexual abstinence has some pretty unbeliveable benefits:
https://imgur.io/gallery/g4eGH
Here are some studies:
Three weeks of abstinence increases testostorone levelshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-beinghttps://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681994.2019.1677883
Sperm contains compounds that prolong lifespan, fight cancer & heart diseasehttps://vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu/spermidine-rich-foods-may-prevent-liver-cancer-extend-lifespan/
Masturbation decreases dopamine levelshttps://sites.tufts.edu/emotiononthebrain/2014/11/18/postcoital-neurochemistry-the-blues-and-the-highs/
Watching porn reduces gray matter in prefrontal cortexhttps://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574
Porn addiction has similar mechanism with substance addictionhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/
Making sperm shortens lifespan of male wormshttps://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/03/us/in-worm-at-least-making-sperm-is-found-to-shorten-a-male-s-life.html
jerking off 3 days in a row decreases sperm count by 20%https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2054949
Increasing ejaculation frequency decreases sperm count significantlyhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15497706
Prevalence of erectile dysfunction doubled between 2004 and 2013http://cir.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Genital-Image-Sexual-Anxiety-and-Erectile-Dysfunction-Among-Young-Male-Military-Personnel.pdf
Pornography consumption is associated with mental health issueshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6327603/
>3 week period
>worms
>porn
>sperm count
no shit the sperm count will decrease until the body has enough time to replenish it. there's nothing in these studies about total abstinence of masturbation having an effect on testosterone, or even having any beneficial effect whatsoever. the optimal ejeculation frequency is about once per week, more often decreases testosterone a bit, but when the body detects no prolactin spikes associated with ejeculation for a long time, it basically shuts down test production. typical nofap cultist trying to attribute vaguely related studies to his meme, just like the first reddi post that started this bullshit, which referenced mostly porn, as if they can't even fathom a possibility to cum without seeing clouseups on some guy's dick
Bla bla bla coomer shut the frick up, go watch some girl get fricked cuck
you realize that the bullshit you're trying to preach applies to any ejaculation, even more so in with a girl, as it produces about 4 times more prolactin than fapping, right? so just troon out, cut of your balls and be done with it, so you won't be tempted to watch Black person dicks in your cuck porn anyomre (the only way to fap according to the likes of you, remember), instead of slowly castrating yourself.
>coomer
I fricking knew it, they are so mindbroken, they all act and speak literally the same, it's a literal hivemind
Bla bla bla, stop touching your penis and go have sex, incel coomer
so this is the power of the nofap arguments? remember, you're not allowed to have sex, it increases prolactin levels 4 times as much as masturbation. you're only allowed to watch how she gets fricked while sitting in the cornes and fighting the urge to fap (by your admission, watching women get fricked in porn is the same as ejaculation for you)
This dude has been posting dumb shit all day and getting blasted for it lol
This frickin guy again
People that wasnt in the thread will not understand the meme
Why the chud face? Plus the text leaves coomers looking bad, and the background image confuses people.
There, is this better?
The text in the OP, plus the imgur link, doesnt help you. Plus the pic could be anyone. And it feels like you are trying too hard. Re do it
Nah it's good enough for people to understand that as you tell people that jerking off somehow makes you inferior, you sleep on a dirty mattress in your mom's basement and lie about getting pussy on the Internet.
>jerking off somehow makes you inferior
So you think chads getting laid are on the same leven as incel cumbrains?
It's not even worth engaging with you because your arguments are so dumb. Just keep spamming this board with your dumb nofap shit.
So you wont answer my question? I guess I win this argument then.
Yes you win. Someday I will be a Chad like you and sleep on a dirty mattress and get no b***hes. Then I will preach weird pseudoscience shit from the 1800s on the Internet.Thank you for giving me life-changing perspective.
Didnt asnwer my question
You sound mad btw
Chads beat it like 10 times a day btw. Most of them also binge porn on their phones pretty constantly.
You expect me to take your response seriously? You guys are not even trying at this point.
am chad, can confirm
I’d rather frick your sister and mother
>pic
absolutely based. literally real-life postal dude
That's a simplistic misleading graph.
Heres a graph that actually measures the prolactin rise in real people.
The rise is short lived.
Also the rise in prolactin after sex with a real woman is 400% greater than when mastrubating. So, according to nofap theory, real sex is even worse for you.
Damn, thank you! Didnt know that.
I guess I will stop banging women and start banging my hand! 400% safer!
it's hilarious how he's disproven the "scientific" basis of your whole moronic nofap bullshit with just one pic and you lack mental capability to even realise that, your imaginary women notwithstanding. having sex would make you even a lower test according to
so how is it, you're a moron posting bullshit, or are "coomer" higher test than you?
You won mate. I will start banging my hand, for real.
Frick fricking women, that shit is unhealthy as frick right?
the only person claiming that fricking women is unhealthy is you
unless you admit you're a moronic redditor with barely enough mental capacity for marvel movies, let alone trying to understand scientific studies
Fun fact. Abstinence leads to penile size reduction. Your dick literally shrinks over time if you don't get it fully erect on a regular basis.
>if you don't get it fully erect on a regular basis.
I wake with a morning wood that could rip through my boxers if tried.
Coomers dont know what to come up with to cope, so sad...
chomp down on p5p to nuke prolactin production, prolactin is what lowers dopamine after a nut and as a bonus it shortens the refractory period
Anon, how do you take? It seems bottle only has 4 doses if you take max dose. Also, will they deliver to USA? Educate us Anon.
how do I buy it with shipping to Europe? tried the site from the OP, but it's 403 for me. is pic related legit?
Look at name of website carefully. researchem NOT researchchem. I get to the website with researchem
I feel like a moron now. thanks
receptorchem dude dont buy that literal scam looking shit
thanks. just ordered a bottle. it's expensive as frick compared with the stores that ship to the US only. I intended to run 25mg daily for 8 weeks, but I guess I'll have to do 12.5mg for 4 weeks instead, because I didn't want to buy more of a substance I'd never taken before from a store I'd never ordered from. would it be moronic to preceed 4weeks of enclomifene with a month of nolvadex 20mg, which I can get for a fraction of the price?
If you're in EU or Uk buy from Receptorchem
an anon recommended it earlier ITT and it looked legit so I already did, but thanks
I'm someone whose done SARMS cycles before. I did LGD with Nolvadex as PCT.
What would be the comparative benefits of trying enclomiphene? Is this meant to be used as PCT, or independently?
where do you get it?
if youre taking this by itself take it every three days or so, youll get the test boost but because the half life is so short after a day and half or so your estrogen receptors will be freed up and youll have normal estrogen activty again, then repeat the cycle with the next dose
what dose?
12.5 mg, but some guys do well on 25mg, go by how you feel
thx bro
np, and also a tip, the "research chemical" variety is usually an ethenal based liquid and it burns the shit out of your mouth if you put under your tongue for sublingual absorption, what i do is take a swig of a drink like tea or something then take the enclo and let it absorb under the tongue for like 30 seconds
do you know if the site from the OP is legit? researchem.store
yeah its legit, ive been buying from them for several months now, the only problem is payments are a pain in the ass unless youre familiar with crypto or have a zelle account or whatever
nice. thanks again
personally I find crypto payments convenient because I usually already have some lying around and I don't have to trust anyone with credit card numbers, or have to juggle prepaid cards. just send some eth with metamask and maybe get a discount on top of it
its also a good idea to follow them on instagram because theyve fricked up several of my orders (just straight up missing items) and have had to reach out them so they can resolve it, but theyve always sent me what was missing
i dont think you have to acutally follow them btw, thats just the only way i know to get a hold of them
dunno how much they monitor it but their website does list a contact email address
[email protected]
never tried it but im sure that works too
if I use too much (normal dose) I get angry one hour then emotional crying the next hour. then too depressed to even workout. and sleepy.
so it does something for sure but frick that.
not sure how useful it is very small doses.
that do be the estrogen
Fitting that the label is blue since that's the only color you'll be seeing
I'm excited to try this stuff. Anyone else here try it? Similar results?