Realistically speaking, are there any long term health implications from blasting troony hormones? Also how much can you get away with before you start growing breasts? The white mans curse is balding and I want to grow all my hair back and don't really give a shit about being masculine anymore when masculinity just rapes your hair if you're white, even handsome bald men look like shit and would look better with hair
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I don't understand, you want to take estrogen pills?
uhm MENA men have highest rates of balding followed by africans
what the frick are you talking about moron homosexual OP
AGA is highest in the MENA and Mediteranian region.
>If you start going bald, you need to embrace it because by the time you notice its already too late
Or you go on meds and can keep your hair indefinitely:
>You were ugly anyway
Going bald will automatically subtract 2-4 points from your attractiveness.
troony drugs not worth killing your dick though
Finasteride/Dutasteride have no effect on your penis. And if you're worried about ED, simply get on cialis/tadalafil which will keep your dick in great shape even in old age with continuous use.
Besides, why would a bald man need his dick anyway?
this is just ranking the hairiest people, this isn't a map of hair loss
There's definitely a correlation between body hair and AGA. Probably because DHT promotes body hair growth so any genetic variant causing more body hair also causes AGA:
Direct correlation between the two
>Scandi is highilet just as much as meds.
Italians win again
Interesting that there's a belt in central Europe where it's not as common and then it spikes again in Scandinavia. It's clearly not temperature or proximity to the ocean. Maybe Vitamin D has something to do with it?
Scandis are genetically different than Germans
In europe it seems to correlate with celtic (pre-germanic migrations) and slavic populations
https://reseedhair.com/blogs/hair-loss/does-race-affect-hair-loss
Whites are the most likely to bald, followed by blacks, but whites are 4x more likely than blacks to bald
See it's not whites, it's Caucasians, especially those living in he meds. But generally AGA is pretty common outside of Asia, Northern-most America and Central Africa.
your link is from a site that sells hair transplants and who ofc they are gonna tell white boomers they need it the most
they also had no sources for their claims
His claim is true though, pure Caucasians have far higher AGA rates than pure sub-Saharan Africans. In the US though, African Americans are at least 1/4 Caucasian so AGA rates are higher for them.
source?
If you start going bald, you need to embrace it because by the time you notice its already too late. Even if you manage to find a way to keep what you have left you will have a lifetime of people pointing out that you are going bald. Going bald all the way on your terms allows you to control the narrative.
>But I will look ugly without my hair
You were ugly anyway
Studies on the 5mg dose showed a slightly increased chance of depression but people taking finasteride also lived 6 years longer on average than those who didn't:
Also on the 5mg dose, there was no statistical difference in sperm quality after being on finasteride for 1 year compared to placebo:
You can always quit without any lasting symptoms. FPS is a fake condition:
Going bald can ruin your life figuratively https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxoj9jeizys or literally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWM9fYHWoyU
5mg is too much
maximum prescribed dose for hair loss is 1mg
hope you meant .5mg
5mg was for treating enlarged prostate. 1mg has an even lower side effect profile and did not change sperm quality levels at all in other studies. Even in the single known case in which it may have impacted some dude, his sperm levels went back to normal levels after three months of quitting. Kevin Mann/haircafe goes over this in his video on finasteride and fertility.
I think OP meant going nuclear route where you take female hormones to grow your hair back instead of just relying on Fin
Whenever you hear someone talking about "troony drugs" in regards to hairloss, they don't mean actually taking estrogen or other female-only hormones, they always mean finasteride (because trans-women take that too in order to fight hair loss from whatever DHT they have left in their systems). And it's always some butthole (Russian shill, white nationalist moron, baldcel, ricelcel) who doesn't want others to save their hair.
it is 100% a bald or balding person who is only trying to convince himself that he made the correct decision via convincing you.
No, I think op literally means Spiro. Those kinds of gains are not possible with finasteride alone, or if they are they are extreme extreme outliers. Spiro, however, is known to take pretty much bald men and regrow a full head of hair(not guaranteed however.) Literally if you Google "spiro hair loss results tressless reddit" this image pops up. The thing is, for as much as people on here meme about fin being a troony drug, Spiro legit IS a troony drug, it's used to shut down testosterone. homie is literally asking if he should feminize himself for more hair
why is this man proselytizing hair loss medication for free. i have never seen anything this odd in my life, he gives off the same energy as Jeremy Fragrance
Because he fell for your kind and couldn't save his hair in time, so he had to get an expansive hair transplant, which cost him time and money. The reason he does his video is pure hate for bald people and buttholes like you who shill against finasteride or dutasteride online for whatever fricked up reason they have.
It's all detailed in his videos.
daily reminder that the guy who posts haircafe videos and vehemently shills finasteride was exposed as a genuine Merck & Co., Inc. shill. i,e, he works for the pharma company that sells finasteride
you can view it in the archives
Why would Merck even shill for finasteride when it lost the patent for it quite some time ago? The generics are way cheaper nowadays.
A thinning NW2. At this rate you'll be a NW3A soon.
My hair has always been fine but I've been told I have lots of it. My dad at 58 has a full head of hair and my grandfather who died at 86 had a head of hair, albeit thin/fine
You can clearly see thinning at the hairline and temples. It's very likely going to get worse even if you're probably not going NW7.
It's been the same since I was 25. It hasn't changed. It's also a bit wet
That sounds like a cope but oh well.
>My dad at 58 has a full head of hair and my grandfather who died at 86 had a head of hair,
My dad at 56 has a full head of hair and I am NW IV at 25. Granted my mom's dad was fully chrome dome by 23 so I guess I should be grateful I got to keep it all through high school.
My hairline got noticeably more mature from 18 to 25. I'm 30 now and it hasn't changed in years. What norwood am I?
above 2 below 3
Have had this hairline since I was a child.
It always made me sad when I compared my hairline with other kids at the school.
23 now and it hasn't changed, got some fine hair on the bald areas with 12% Minoxidil. But since there never has been real hair there I doubt that I will get any actual growing there.
unfotunately anon supressing test and blastin estrogen will not bring your hair back, it will help areas that are thinning ,but it wont cause hair to magically grow back if its already smooth. better off using finasteride/minoxidil ect rather than fricking up your body.
Dude there's a tonne of troons who go from slick bald to full regrowth
there isn't
it's physically impossible
This guy isn't even a troon, the frick are you talking about there's countless examples of this
how
Dutasteride, oral minoxidil, topical min with RU and derma rolling was what this guy used, this is the absolute most extreme hair growth stack
Imo go for 2.5mg dut, microneedle, use tretinoin+topical minoxidil, add stemoxydine, pyrilutamide, alfatradiol and wait for gt20029. With that stack you'll definitely regrow every single dormant hair follicle that still hasn't died.
there are more that dont,
NOTE: if there are even just some follicles still, it means that the area isnt completely lost, there will still be dormant follicles, if the area is SMOOTH aka 0 follicles it means there is nothing left to save .
Hanging on at a NW with topical fin/min. The Big Hair businesses have me for at least ten years.
This should tell you everything you need to know.
Going on TRT only makes sense after the age of 50.
Why does no one call roids/TRT troony drugs?
Because according to alt rightcels only mtf transgender people exist.
>you can fist a load out of me
>my dick is essentially useless at this point
>get transplant
>use minox only instead of finasteride
This is the only realistic choice for people who are balding and dont want to use fin. Your hair will continue falling out, but the minox will slow down the process. After 10-15 years you will have thinned to the point where you have to start shaving. So it's not permanent, but a 10-15 year extension for $10k. For some people that's worth it and for others it's not
I've completely given up on trying to preserve my hair since everyone in my family has shit hair genes. The family member I resemble the most went full bald at 17. I refused to go on any drugs so I basically went through the 5 stages of grief and now I'm at acceptance. Thank God I'm tall and have above average frame and face genes or I'd be game over.
Why do you refuse to accept medical advancement when it could make the difference between looking like an 8 and a 5?
I'm not going impotent for le epic fade comb over
>Realistically speaking, are there any long term health implications from blasting troony hormones?
Cancer, bone density loss, muscle, loss, cardiovascular issues, strokes, and blood clots. Basically everything that can kill people outside of Alzheimer's and dementia to my knowledge skyrockets.
>Also how much can you get away with before you start growing breasts?
Depends entirely on your current hormone profile, if you take a serm or ai concurrently, and if you take an fsh and lh mimic. There's no cookie cutter when you devl into troony territory because your body is constantly trying to correct it's state to relative homeostasis.
>The white mans curse is balding and I want to grow all my hair back and don't really give a shit about being masculine anymore when masculinity just rapes your hair if you're white, even handsome bald men look like shit and would look better with hair
True. All races with high dht response have it. The best you can do is use topical dutasturide and something to compete at the follicle like an RU to stave it off while leaving everything else you can intact. If you've already lost ground you can use things to increase the density but you'll rarely get back a lost hairline. Some people are hyper responders though so you might as well try if you can.
>muh height
>muh dick
>muh hair
you people are the most insecure motherfrickers
none of you are going to make it.
This board is a shithole full of massive insecure homosexuals. More womanly than trannies.
So if my dad went bald at like 25, but I haven't yet, when do I start finasteride?
when you want to. Same here with my dad. I am between norwood 1 and 2 at 27.
thats Onision on the right, isnt it?
in my years of searching RU58841+minoxidil and micro needling is the only thing that grew my hair line back
im 30 and people keep thinking im 19
I refuse to take pharmaceuticals and play with the evil to safe my hair.
I will get hair transplants done and play Russian roulette.
I hope I can span the time with hair transplants and catch up with the hair loss for 20 years until we have other solutions for hair loss like hair clones.
you have to take finasteride after your transplant to keep it or it will fall out like it did originally; or did you just never google "hair transplant" before?
The transplanted hairs don’t fall out. The problem is that your hair loss continues and the hairs behind the transplanted hairs will fall out. This is why they take fin after transplant to avoid having hair in the hairline and then being bald behind.
My plan is to jump from transplantation to transplantation to catch up with hair loss until the japanese chinks find a cure. I speculate with 15-20 years.
My hair loss is very slow so I will likely survive until then
unironically the least moronic man with hair loss on this entire board
>The white mans curse is balding
Only if you take it that way.
Being bald is terrible
I've been on fin 6 months, 1mg every other day, haven't noticed any improvements but I guess it hasn't gotten worse either. Is there any chance of actual hair density/hairline improving if I stay on it longer though?
No sides btw although I already had slight ED before startingfin so I'm not the best reference to use
Fin gave me gyno. Worst meme I ever fell to.
post gyno
If you want to avoid breast growth look into microdosing raloxifene.
HRT femboys report anecdotal success in prevent boob growth but getting the rest of the effects.
Remember, dead>bald.
Also, if your concern is a loss of downstairs function as a result of the HRT, topical testosterone or low dose cialis is a fix.