Post front / side face, front / back hair, video of your body from a 360 angle with a 5am timestamp proving it is not affected by fake pump, current neck centimeters and a full pic of you standing to a door
Anon, since you're so insecure about balding, how about I let you in on a little secret: psychologically well-adjusted women love their fathers, and by a very basic form of imprinting will be sexually attracted to men of a similar phenotype. Therefore, all you need to do is find a woman whose father is bald; she will definitely not mind that you're bald too and might even be turned on by it.
Narcissistic homosexual sociopath detected. Of course fit has its fair share, but in order to be a typical reddit gaytard who’d post his body on that site of all places and actually be successful while doing it requires a bit of inhuman algorithmic thought process
see, he didnt drop long shorts, nor fricking lame ass adidas shoes, nor black socks, nor looking at your phone while taking a mirror selfie, and as such, he looks like a loser yet again
Anon, it's not that hard, you can lift for a whole year too and see what actual progress looks like
Don't fall for internet grifters, that's how beginners end up on roids
What are the long-term benefits of roiding like this? Like if he just roids for a year to get that body, and then never roids again, will he just go back to the way he was before or will he keep at least some of the gains?
If we assume he didn’t learn proper diet and training he will lose most of it if he stops taking gear. However he will be left with more muscle than he had previously before roiding.
You can find pictures of what enhanced bodybuilders look like during pct.
>If we assume he didn’t learn proper diet and training he will lose most of it if he stops taking gear. However he will be left with more muscle than he had previously before roiding.
Are there any drawbacks to roiding to get a head start on developing muscle to keep after coming off?
>If we assume he didn’t learn proper diet and training he will lose most of it if he stops taking gear. However he will be left with more muscle than he had previously before roiding.
Are there any drawbacks to roiding to get a head start on developing muscle to keep after coming off?
>are there any drawback to being a troony for a while
I wonder
lmao @ people thinking he's on roids just cause he has slightly visible abs and no one here has experience being below 15% bodyfat.
Dude is angle frauding hard and took the picture with a pump. His arms, chest and shoulders still are pathetic looking
He went from a ugly loser to an ugly loser with a 6 pack. Good for him.
With that said. He's all upper body. Look at how he's not showing off his legs at all. No definition. No calve muscles. Baggy shorts because he's got no quads. Like, what is the point of all that work up top if your legs are shit?
No one cares about leg look other than gays and dyels on fit.
It’s actually sad and speaks to the utterly cucked mindset of people in today’s society (yes I am grouping you “special” ISTners with “regular” normies since you actually aren’t all that different psychologically) that people think he is lying and that he didn’t achieve what he actually did without the use of steroids. If you put in hard work and are consistent you will see results. It won’t be easy and it certainly helps if you have a background in what you are trying to achieve but it is possible to change without the use of steroids or other drugs.
>everything is possible, you just have to believe in yourself
Watched too much tranyme.
You are utterly buck broken mentally if you think you need steroids in order to lose weight and get fit within a year. And it’s funny you claim I watch to much anime when you clearly don’t even have a reference for real life. You are so insulated and divorced from reality you don’t even know what the human body is capable of it you treat it like a machine. Limit calories, eat right, exercise regularly, and sleep 8 hours a day and you will become lean and muscular. But honesty I know I’m just wasting the ATP I’m burning in my fingers typing this because you’re a dopamine addicted slave that can’t possibly achieve anything that even requires a modicum of effort. Die a slave to your own weakness homosexual.
flat narrow face. Low FWHR. Narrow mandible and recessed maxilla. Underdeveloped zygos.
Lack of browridge and massive forehead.
Pencil neck.
Consult pic attached to see what a gigaChad looks like.
Notice the highly developed jaw and wide palate as well as true hunter eyes(not the squinting eyes you have), in addition strong cheek bones.
I've now had two distinct periods of my life where women have hit on me because I "look like the Night Stalker".
Imagine hooking up and then finding out it was only because they think you look like a serial killer.
Okay I'm a fat frick but even I don't have breasts like that. That is straight estrogen coursing through this man's veins. He could feed a family of four with those luscious breasts. He has the nipples of a Peruvian wet nurse.
https://i.imgur.com/pr81Nuz.png
here's how he did it
[...]
He went from the guy getting cheated on his wife by her fitness instructor
To
The fitness guy instructors his wife is having a affair with
Okay I'm a fat frick but even I don't have breasts like that. That is straight estrogen coursing through this man's veins. He could feed a family of four with those luscious breasts. He has the nipples of a Peruvian wet nurse.
I don't really give a shit either way but have you guys considered he could just simply be lying about the time frame? I don't see anything here that straight away screams he's on gear.
Did he used to be really fricking fat before this picture? How do you have gyno that bad without being very fat? Obvious roidtroony, only way he could get a prescription is if he had pitifully low T that even israeli doctors think it's bad
Very true
When I was younger I had luscious hair and I'd nail pussy every weekend no questions asked. I was a skinny kid. Truth is, it's all about face and hair.
>but he still has negatives!!!!
Typical feminine crab in a bucket mentality. He has increased his sexual value a lot and made himself more desirable. Is he perfect? No. Can he ever be a 10? Absolutely not. Does that mean he didn’t increase his value both aesthetically and socially by making himself more attractive and seem more capable/put together? No. He obviously did both.
Unless he had no muscle under that fat, I think he was closer to 230. I'm 5'10 and I hovered around 210 for 10 years and never looked like that. And my back story is the same as his. I don't think the transformation is unbelievable but I think his starting weight or height is wrong.
that's extraordinarily terrible. I think you're not trying very much
3 months ago
Anonymous
But I am, I go there 6x week, sleep 8 - 12h a day, eat 1g/lbs protein, and take literally every set to failure. I've been doing this for almost 3 months now and my bench is at 80lbs.
lol wtf no it doesn't. EVERY high school kid, not matter how frail, unathletic and skinnyfat can bench 1pl8 within a few months of lifting. most normal grown men can do it their first or 2nd time in the gym.
>t. dyel
I actually go to the gym and see boomers like him everyday, they all struggle to bench 90 for a couple of reps
No one with that body benches 1pl8 with no training
You don't only lose 30lbs during a 5 month cut at 1800kcal. I went from 130kg to 70kg in 1 1/2 years, I also have a crazy transformation behind me and could probably open up a fitness related insta channel or something like that and scam people but I don't want to play with the hopes of people.
What I did: >extreme cutting, (I overdid it) for 1 year at 1500kcal, every second Saturday I would do a cheat day and eat what I want max 2500kcal per cheatday >150g-200g proteins, my only carbs were protein wraps and porridge >6x per week in the gym, 3 cardio days (1h walking/jogging sessions), 1 leg day, 1 upper and 1 lower body >had a taken crush that motivated me, her boyfriend was a chad and I twisted my psyche to make him my gym nemesis, everytime I wanted to stop I imagined myself in a colosseum with my gym nemesis, me at the ground and him towering over me with his swords in my last moments and him asking me if that is all I got, my gym crush at the stands watching and me screaming not yet homosexual. You need this kind of pathetic larp shit if you have a history of bad friends, family and emotional eating, you have to change your psyche.
>had a taken crush that motivated me, her boyfriend was a chad and I twisted my psyche to make him my gym nemesis, everytime I wanted to stop I imagined myself in a colosseum with my gym nemesis, me at the ground and him towering over me with his swords in my last moments and him asking me if that is all I got, my gym crush at the stands watching and me screaming not yet homosexual. You need this kind of pathetic larp shit if you have a history of bad friends, family and emotional eating, you have to change your psyche.
Not reading all that shit but I've had similar weight loss from 130kg to 79kg. I ate clean and rode my bicycle everywhere. Took around a year. Never once counted calories or even thought about being on some epic journey. It just happened.
>>had a taken crush that motivated me, her boyfriend was a chad and I twisted my psyche to make him my gym nemesis, everytime I wanted to stop I imagined myself in a colosseum with my gym nemesis, me at the ground and him towering over me with his swords in my last moments and him asking me if that is all I got, my gym crush at the stands watching and me screaming not yet homosexual. You need this kind of pathetic larp shit if you have a history of bad friends, family and emotional eating, you have to change your psyche.
By time I was in college all of my fantasies were shonen-esque where I am empowered to fight some non-descript evil and since becoming an author it's like becoming so powerful that my presence in a situation is newsworthy (yonko shows up to an island in one piece). Why don't I lift for women?
My crush got taken by a 6’4” fat frick with moobs…. Me and her are both 5’9”, and she 100% wanted someone taller. She always complimented my body and told me my only issue is I’m not 6’5”…..
I thought it was a fricking zoomer meme. How do you use that for motivation… I’m fully demotivated and want to die.
This would unironically be questionable whether its achievable or not even with copious amounts of steroids. Definitely NOT natural. Its not like he was fat but fricking jacked in the beginning, no he wont from zero muscle to that size with visible abs while mostly on a deficit. Its not even remotely possible natty.
The definition of natty with these folks seems to be: I went to the doctor to get my test checked, and got put on TRT that raised my T levels to that of a 22 year old Olympic athlete.
All the Experts™ in here need to read this carefully. Dude was in the military and then worked an extremely physically demanding job afterwards, he was obviously strong before he completely let himself go. Virtually everyone who hasn't actually seen it in action underestimates how quickly the body gains back lost muscle.
Combine being previously strong, great genetics, strict diet adherence and a well formulated routine and this is possible natty in a year, let alone with trt (which if we are being honest is more likely than not, I'm just playing devils advocate here)
https://i.imgur.com/Ei6vhao.png
redditor gets jacked
If you still doubt what I wrote above go back and look at his non pumped, clothed pic. That's a natty if I've ever seen one.
If you go from working a physical job to sitting in front of a screen and never exercising except to walk to your car to buy fast food you'll look like his before pic before you know it.
Great genetics in this context meaning response to stimulus, moron
Wrong
I lifted for 5 years and got big and then stopped lifting altogether for another 5 years. There was still a base of muscle when I started back up again. As you grow muscle you gain myonuclei. When you stop lifting you lose muscle but the myonuclei remain there pretty much forever
That homosexual redditor is 100% completely untrained >but but but military!
He's says "I spent time in the miltary"
He doesn't say how long, or in what capacity. >but but but foundry
This isn't the beginning of the industrial age bro. He wasn't lugging around 100lbs worth of tools from one bay to another. He wasn't le epic skyrim blacksmith. Foundries these days have machines that do the heavy lifting. He was likely and operator behind a co sole of buttons
Do not fall for the homosexual redditors lies
https://i.imgur.com/pr81Nuz.png
here's how he did it
Hahaha look at the little reddit liar!
I looked up the thread and he got called out for PEDs by almost every person and he deleted his comment trying to claim natty LMFAO
judging by that picture, he's most likely lying about bench pressing 1pl8 for 5 in his first day too, look at those noodle arms
his whole story is made up
I'm a few years out of shape right now, but with a little warmup, I can easily hit 60% of my former max for a set. I won't be able to move my arms for a week once doas, but after that, I have a significantly lower hill to climb.
something I didn't think I'd hate so much is how fast I develop and regain muscle now that I'm older as long as I can keep up the calories. I'm trying to stay slim, and I end up having to live in a cut if I exercise at all so I don't turn back into a meatball. "old man muscle" isn't a myth.
holy moron
being in the military and working at a foundry tells me nothing
most military gays are dyels whose only redeeming feature is having a low bf% to pass those calisthenics tests
Do you not understand the concept of playing devils advocate? I'm not saying he IS natty, I'm saying if the things he said are true then it is POSSIBLE. It's also possible he is full of shit.
I'm saying your arguments are fricking moronic, Black person
none of the things he said make the slightest sense
if he were a former bodybuilder then sure, so-called "muscle memory" could be a factor, but le natural strength and great genetics like he laughably tried to argue in his post are obviously not the reason why he got jacked in less than a year
you are a moron with zero capacity for nuanced thought if you genuinely think this way
having great genes in respect to physical response to stimulus means nothing if you experience zero stimulus like this guy clearly didn't. "great genes" aren't a monolith, someone can have great height genes for being a basketballer but shit genes for putting on muscle, for example
>Dude was in the military and then worked an extremely physically demanding job afterwards, he was obviously strong before he completely let himself go
So why was he a fat sack of shit then? You're too gullible.
You really think its impossible to let yourself go after once being fit? You've never seen the former athletes that have a beer gut the size of a house?
I'm saying, if his job being "physically demanding" was an influence in him gaining muscle so quickly, then why was he so out of shape? It should have kept him in shape if it was a factor, otherwise it wasn't a factor. His lies are so flimsy but you're eating it up because you want to believe something is realistic when it really isn't. He's either frauding his photos or his story. Anyone who has lifted for a year knows you don't go from his before to after in that timeframe as a natty.
probably because there was a long period of time between him quitting his physical job and getting into the gym? if his story is true (not saying it is) then he was presumably sedentary for a long time in between which will make even people with huge muscular potential flabby and pathetic looking
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I actually believe he's telling the truth. He has two things going for him that most people who look like that don't have: >he was presumably fit in the past while doing manual labor on a daily basis, and at the very least has a decent strength base >being in the military would have at least taught him how to train properly
You can't compare this guy's progress to other novice lifters just because he looked like one when he started. Knowing how to train is the biggest filter in fitness. When people are first getting into lifting they usually waste the entire first year not knowing what the frick they're doing and make zero progress as a result. If this guy actually had the experience to hit the ground running then this is totally doable in a year without taking test.
People reflexively assume roider because the idea that this guy could do what they can't hits their insecurity in a way they probably can't put their finger on
If you think for a second this is unrealistic or not natty seriously look at yourself in the mirror and evaluate where everything went wrong in your life
It’s actually sad and speaks to the utterly cucked mindset of people in today’s society (yes I am grouping you “special” ISTners with “regular” normies since you actually aren’t all that different psychologically) that people think he is lying and that he didn’t achieve what he actually did without the use of steroids. If you put in hard work and are consistent you will see results. It won’t be easy and it certainly helps if you have a background in what you are trying to achieve but it is possible to change without the use of steroids or other drugs.
No you wont. You literally wont see results. It is LITERALLY impossible for a natural to achieve that transformation in under a year. it is fricking LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE its not up for a debate. That is absurd transformation even for 3-5 years natty
> That is absurd transformation even for 3-5 years natty
Lmao. Dudes not even that big. All he did what put on newbie gains and then become lean. If you think that is impossible in a year then you should do some neck hangs to failure.
Unironically most people don’t know what the frick they are doing. People in /cbt/ are just vain dorks who think they look good or people who are trying to improve and just want to post progress and get feedback because they want input or a confidence boost. Just because you post in /cbt/ doesn’t mean your doing it right or the best way. And in regards to normies, unless Dave from accounting is utterly driven to not look disgusting he isn’t going to design his meals like a science experiment and carve out his schedule to where it’s just work/gym/sleep, but if he is then he will make some serious gains and mog the guy who hasn’t been religiously watching his diet and has only been going to the gym off and on for the past few years. It’s all about effort and consistency homosexual. >inb4 muh genes
Unless you have a major metabolic or muscular disorder nothing genetically is stopping you from losing weight and putting muscle mass on except for your own bad decisions. Genes only matter when you get into elite territory.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>people don't work HARD >find out what happens when they DO
Sounds lie literally any fake natty influencer ever.
Fitbros, look at how many whales and DYELs destroy their cover saying this isn’t possible. These are the same that talk shit in cbt threads without ever posting their bodies. IST has been infested with not only undisciplined homosexuals, but also crab mentality. Jannies should begin a cleanse.
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holy frick you seriously think he had the fricking muscle memory before? Jesus get a grip.
Cope homosexual
Even if he took roids
It is still not a simple inject Roid sit your ass off and eat all you want while gaining muscle and losing fat.
It doesn’t work that way
It's well known that a roider that does fricking nothing gets more gains that a natty doing a routine
>It's well known that a roider that does fricking nothing gets more gains that a natty doing a routine
This a meme parroted by morons based on one flawed study that didn't differentiate between water bloat and muscle.
The study also showed that the roiders who lifted got as much gains as the natty lifter and the roiders who didn't lift combined. In other words, roids automatically added X amount of muscle and didn't do shit beyond that.
>In other words, roids automatically added X amount of muscle and didn't do shit beyond that.
Basically, except it's "lean mass" not muscle. i.e. increased glycogen and water retention. The study was far too short to measure anything meaningful.
I used to be IST in my early 20s /fat/ in my mid 20s back to IST in my late 20s
Even with muscle memory getting back in the rhythms of fitness took a while
I didn’t even stop lifting during my mid 20s
I just only did it 3x a week 20 mins max a day and ate like shit.
I took my a good while to go back to my baseline early 20s physique.
Cope homosexual
Even if he took roids
It is still not a simple inject Roid sit your ass off and eat all you want while gaining muscle and losing fat.
It doesn’t work that way
I agree. It fits the pattern of a nerd who slobbed it up his whole life until he's in his 30s/40s, then decides to "make a change" and hop on PEDs. He's probably going to sign up for BJJ soon.
This
Pathethic that people lie about this
The problem is idiots behind keyboard who have never tried actually training believe it
Anyone who has spent time lifting without drugs knows immediately
Natty, that's a 5-10 year change
im fricking tired of all these fricking morons posting transformations on TRT
yes you fricking morons, you dont get from left to looking like on the right in 1 year unless you're fricking boosting testosterone
never in the history of all mankind's biology, will you have increased test than before on caloric restrictions
do you understand this? it's fricking against biology to go from b***h boy breasts to jacked on caloric restriction
i cant believe how much this board has gone to shit
5+ years ago everyone would've called out this homosexual on pinning but now all these zoomers believe like morons its actually achievable natty in 1 year lmao with no prior fitness or diet experience
i fricking to delt raises with 30 kgs and my delts are nowhere close to looking like these homosexual's, rounded and popping like that
also i do barbell shrugs with 100 kgs and same, traps aren't even close
so yeah, i call fricking bullshit on this TRT reddit soiiboy
>also i do barbell shrugs with 100 kgs and same, traps aren't even close
That is a very low number, you're supposed to shrug with 100+ lbs above your deadlift
That is not achievable with just "TRT". Although it must be noted that in bodybuilding 500mg test-e per week is considered "TRT" so maybe. Pic rel is 8 months on actual TRT dose prescribed by actual doctor for actual low testosterone.
The transformation this guy did with the worst possible starting physique and thus having absurdly bad genetics, it takes A LOT more than "TRT" to make that change in your body in less than 12 months. The guy took every single steroid under the sun in lethal doses.
You don't know he had bad genetics. Couple years of sedentary life and bad diet can frick you up. Ugly fat deposits doesn't guarantee bad genetics. All these seething fitgays can't accept the possibility that the shortbald redditor may just have had favorable natural genetics meaning his lifestyle change was accompanied by natural beneficial hormone changes.
Yeah I do, I noticed the irony before you did but am smart enough to distinguish topical relevance. You aren't, hence why you get everything wrong about life. And also aren't funny.
how are all these people inferring that he has shit genes if he didn't exercise at all in the before photo? Arnold would've looked like he had shit genes if he was born 40 years later and was addicted to WoW instead of the gym.
It's one really bad photo, you infer too much. 90% of what looks bad there is the fat distribution, the rest is just low muscle mass. You can't tell anything else.
All of the homosexuals who can't even admit that the guy did an impressive turn around really need to reevaluate their attitude towards life and others.
Guy went from looking like a prime example of skinny fat cuck to as chad as he could get, if we want to keep it in these terms and it's impressive as frick.
I bet that among his detractors in this thread there's few that look as good as he does. What even makes you wake up in the morning, open a thread like this and think "might aswell shit on someone who did something like this"? I'm curious about the logic behind it.
It's because he is lying about doing this natty.
No one would care if he admitted to achieving this with roids.
So you entirely missed the point shitskin.
His transformation is impressive but he’s lying about his TRT. You don’t go from b***h breasts and noodle arms to shredded WHILE adding a plate to your bench IN A DEFICIT at age 30+.
If this was a high schooler it would be more realistic.
ZOGbots dont get excepted from reality. Not entirely his fault though as the social stigma of saying “I took testosterone” even though he clearly needed it is insane. He probably doesn’t want to be an incel forever so of course he’s gonna say natty.
>gyno >fupa
You do not develop those if you are physically active, you also do not get rid of those by being physically active.
Bowling ball is lying out of his ass.
ZOGbots dont get excepted from reality. Not entirely his fault though as the social stigma of saying “I took testosterone” even though he clearly needed it is insane. He probably doesn’t want to be an incel forever so of course he’s gonna say natty.
Wow.... what the frick happened to IST I hope for your own sake you guys are trying to troll
No matter how much you cope, gyno and fupa are not fixable without surgery. This is a well known fact.
It is also a well known fact that physically active people will have some sort of definition or muscle mass despite their lack of exercise and bad nutrition for years, something that he does not have.
I am honestly baffled that you think the guy did it in one year while being natural, at best he did it in a year and a half while on test.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>gyno and fupa are not fixable without surgery
NTA but seriously? Seems like there has to be something.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Loose skin and fat clumps
Nope, sorry. You can mask it by getting big (depending on the severity) but you'll have to get surgery to fix it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
the guys 33, if he joined the military at 18, left as soon as he was eligible and worked his physical job for a couple of years that still gives him a decade of playing vidya and barely moving to look like he did
3 months ago
Anonymous
Brother, even veteran alcoholics from the vietnam era retain at least a little bit of shape in their arms and pecs, even their stomachs if they're lucky.
This guy hasn't done any of that, part of me wants to bet he got into some cushy non-physical job at the military.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're probably right but it's not impossible. Most of those vets didn't take up playing video games and eating doordash for every meal while also ceasing any and all exercise though
3 months ago
Anonymous
You can also look at veterans from the GWOT era. Seriously, it's not easy to eat away all your muscle and develop lose skin and gyno if you were not fat from the beginning. >ceasing all exercise
I was a skinnyfat shut-in for years and even at my worst I didn't look like that.
I hate people that lie like this. Normies will think they can be slobs for 30 years of their lives and then "stop eating junkfood for a couple months" and get back in shape. I've met many that needed to lose a few pounds before christmas, wedding, beach vacation.
He's definitely on PED's, this is impossible within a year, I've done dozens of bulk and cuts, not even considering that he put on muscle while he was cutting. cmon now.
my posts are last and bot close the thread after i posted because i hit the nail on the head
that is their plan, ridiculous as it sounds - they want to transform basedem into universal soldiers with trt for every willing man..
..because west is bankrupt - can't pay boomers what it promised - it's war time, but there are no potential soldiers, not with preferable hormonal profile at least
we're all gonna frickin make it THATS IT
>still a basedboi
>still short
>still bald
Wow. Stunning and brave
Frick off with that crabs in a barrel mentality.
Fit is full of insecure incel homosexuals.
fit and preddit are different barrels just because you are a tourist doesn't give you a say dyel
he's a better version of himself
post body
>never improve
Post body.
Don't waste your life playing the negative homosexual, anon
You're subhuman and absolutely SEETHING
troony
He's better off like this. Being a soiboi is no way to live.
something tells me I know exactly what the posters behind the seething replies to your post look like.
Post front / side face, front / back hair, video of your body from a 360 angle with a 5am timestamp proving it is not affected by fake pump, current neck centimeters and a full pic of you standing to a door
Anon, since you're so insecure about balding, how about I let you in on a little secret: psychologically well-adjusted women love their fathers, and by a very basic form of imprinting will be sexually attracted to men of a similar phenotype. Therefore, all you need to do is find a woman whose father is bald; she will definitely not mind that you're bald too and might even be turned on by it.
Narcissistic homosexual sociopath detected. Of course fit has its fair share, but in order to be a typical reddit gaytard who’d post his body on that site of all places and actually be successful while doing it requires a bit of inhuman algorithmic thought process
see, he didnt drop long shorts, nor fricking lame ass adidas shoes, nor black socks, nor looking at your phone while taking a mirror selfie, and as such, he looks like a loser yet again
>black socks
What’s wrong with black socks? it’s literally the only choice as an adult male, white socks are for schoolboy uniforms.
>looking at your phone while taking a mirror selfie
Don't tell me you're looking straight ahead in the mirror.
Lmao weirdo moron
>whines about socks
>thinks he's some sort of masculinity guru
Ok
That's not a one year progress without steroids, sorry
Anon, it's not that hard, you can lift for a whole year too and see what actual progress looks like
Don't fall for internet grifters, that's how beginners end up on roids
Looks good. Good for him.
This guy coulda been a volcel 10 years ago, shame he got old
Good for him hope he gets young thight pussy now
Not natty
What are the long-term benefits of roiding like this? Like if he just roids for a year to get that body, and then never roids again, will he just go back to the way he was before or will he keep at least some of the gains?
If we assume he didn’t learn proper diet and training he will lose most of it if he stops taking gear. However he will be left with more muscle than he had previously before roiding.
You can find pictures of what enhanced bodybuilders look like during pct.
>If we assume he didn’t learn proper diet and training he will lose most of it if he stops taking gear. However he will be left with more muscle than he had previously before roiding.
Are there any drawbacks to roiding to get a head start on developing muscle to keep after coming off?
>are there any drawback to being a troony for a while
I wonder
It's funny how roiders will have some serious incident, get spooked, go off roids, and become totally fat blobs.
lmao @ people thinking he's on roids just cause he has slightly visible abs and no one here has experience being below 15% bodyfat.
Dude is angle frauding hard and took the picture with a pump. His arms, chest and shoulders still are pathetic looking
It's cope like your post
He went from a ugly loser to an ugly loser with a 6 pack. Good for him.
With that said. He's all upper body. Look at how he's not showing off his legs at all. No definition. No calve muscles. Baggy shorts because he's got no quads. Like, what is the point of all that work up top if your legs are shit?
No one cares about leg look other than gays and dyels on fit.
>everything is possible, you just have to believe in yourself
Watched too much tranyme.
You are utterly buck broken mentally if you think you need steroids in order to lose weight and get fit within a year. And it’s funny you claim I watch to much anime when you clearly don’t even have a reference for real life. You are so insulated and divorced from reality you don’t even know what the human body is capable of it you treat it like a machine. Limit calories, eat right, exercise regularly, and sleep 8 hours a day and you will become lean and muscular. But honesty I know I’m just wasting the ATP I’m burning in my fingers typing this because you’re a dopamine addicted slave that can’t possibly achieve anything that even requires a modicum of effort. Die a slave to your own weakness homosexual.
because literally NOBODY cares about your legs other than gay men?
Nice dark eye circles slave
Hair implants are unnatural
Hair implants are unnatural
no arrow therefore you look like this and say this
It is known
flat narrow face. Low FWHR. Narrow mandible and recessed maxilla. Underdeveloped zygos.
Lack of browridge and massive forehead.
Pencil neck.
Consult pic attached to see what a gigaChad looks like.
Notice the highly developed jaw and wide palate as well as true hunter eyes(not the squinting eyes you have), in addition strong cheek bones.
I've now had two distinct periods of my life where women have hit on me because I "look like the Night Stalker".
Imagine hooking up and then finding out it was only because they think you look like a serial killer.
Sean Strickland?
i'll be staying 🙂
>roiding for this
Roidtrannies' muscles get bigger, but inside they never change.
pretty inspirational, of course the literal crab-minded homosexuals of this board would tear him down for validation
>eating at or below maintenance
>1 year
That must be roids
Yep. It's obvious.
Okay I'm a fat frick but even I don't have breasts like that. That is straight estrogen coursing through this man's veins. He could feed a family of four with those luscious breasts. He has the nipples of a Peruvian wet nurse.
jelly haters ngmi lel
Stop posting your roid transformation on IST fit. It's obvious that it's not possible to grow that big in one year without juicing.
oh nonono this homie SEETHING with jealousy over a reddit basedboy out working him
maybe he's <5'8"?
90% of fat men have problems with hormones.
Jeez he managed to fix that in a year. This should motivate any its over homosexual. You really gonna let some based boi outperform you?
He went from the guy getting cheated on his wife by her fitness instructor
To
The fitness guy instructors his wife is having a affair with
peak reddit this place is finished
Get out of here crab in the bucket homosexual
Yeah that's massive reddit tier comment lol.
Such a gay ass comment
god I feel like a pepperoni pizza now
I don't really give a shit either way but have you guys considered he could just simply be lying about the time frame? I don't see anything here that straight away screams he's on gear.
yes i have considered that. he actually said in the comments that it was not 1 year but closer to 8-9 months lol.
>a redditor lifted today
Zamn, I wish I didn't skip. I'll go hard tomorrow
there was a followup when someone posted this exact picture to a subreddit and caused them to have a meltdown
Sauce?
He upgraded from only being appealing to SEA and squat central Americans to fat white chicks and poojeetas. Good progress.
wow so you admit he could land your mom with ease
No way he did that without surgery, that's insane
What surgery? Why would he need surgery?
If you think this is a natty 1 year transformation you should do some neck hangs
Looks like roids for 1 year.
salami nipples
Amazing progress. From soft pugdy z0yboy to a good looking masculine man.
He on some trt though.
Did he used to be really fricking fat before this picture? How do you have gyno that bad without being very fat? Obvious roidtroony, only way he could get a prescription is if he had pitifully low T that even israeli doctors think it's bad
The same posture and body as the 30 year old lifter pic
I look like this, is it over?
Nope, 1 year of natty lifting
Great transformation, gives me hope that I can overcome being an unlovable loser through effort alone
remember boys.
TREN HARD.
EAT CLEN.
ANAVAR GIVE UP.
Honestly good for him, no hate, natty or not idc
>got bigger
>in a year
>on a year long deficit
if i were a baldgay i'd roid too, it would shorten the length of time i'd have to spend alive being a baldgay
I thought gyno was unfixable without surgery?
What bodyfat even is this? 25% with zero muscle? He had a weird as frick fat distribution
Not bad
What program and how much roids?
I think this is an impressive transformation but he's still bald. When you're a baldie everything you do seems like a cope
This, pretty much.
Nice job on getting in shape, but you're just seen as that coping bald 30's guy.
So what is he supposed to do ? Cry about being bald on fit and how it's over?
Apparently yes according to crabs, god forbid someone enjoys their life while being bald, cant have that.
Very true
When I was younger I had luscious hair and I'd nail pussy every weekend no questions asked. I was a skinny kid. Truth is, it's all about face and hair.
Lol @ baldies who treat their baldness like it were an inoperable disease.
Didn't catch a word of what this moron was saying
I read that in Brock's voice grhs
thats like saying if i take away all decent bone structure men and remove their decent bone structure they all look like shit
well no shit moron
Not having good bone structure is why some men are uglier than others.
Women are 100% hair, if all women went bald tomorrow birth rates would plummet
Where's my teen pussy?
You look like one of those mummified bronze age peasants from 5000 years ago they dig up from bogs, fully preserved
take the lean pill anon, you look nice
Impressive, very nice. Let's see the already ugly baldie without his precious beard.
He has got that Jason statham look to him now
>but he still has negatives!!!!
Typical feminine crab in a bucket mentality. He has increased his sexual value a lot and made himself more desirable. Is he perfect? No. Can he ever be a 10? Absolutely not. Does that mean he didn’t increase his value both aesthetically and socially by making himself more attractive and seem more capable/put together? No. He obviously did both.
>can he be a 10
He can if he has the money for it.
Surgerycels are so cringe
here's how he did it
the transformation is nuts but that seems like utter bullshit to me he looked a lot more than 25lbs overweight in that first image
Unless he had no muscle under that fat, I think he was closer to 230. I'm 5'10 and I hovered around 210 for 10 years and never looked like that. And my back story is the same as his. I don't think the transformation is unbelievable but I think his starting weight or height is wrong.
yup yup yup, coping homosexuals literally got btfo by a literal redditor. One year is a good enough time I guess.
>the creature in the before image could bench 1pl8 x 5
utter bullshit larp. clearly trt.. good transformation but trt aided
1pl8 x5 seems perfectly reasonable
Almost every man on the planet can bench 1pl8x5 barring some disability regardless of how dyel they are.
This isn't true. Rippetoe has talked about this, most guys coming in will start bench at like 95 lbs to 135 lbs on the upper end
I've been training for three months and can only bench 80lbs, including the bar. Am I just a genetic subhuman?
no when i first stepped into the gym i could literally just do the bar 3x5
that's extraordinarily terrible. I think you're not trying very much
But I am, I go there 6x week, sleep 8 - 12h a day, eat 1g/lbs protein, and take literally every set to failure. I've been doing this for almost 3 months now and my bench is at 80lbs.
Fricking moron, benching 1pl8 with no training puts you at least in the 90th percentile, unless strongfat
lol wtf no it doesn't. EVERY high school kid, not matter how frail, unathletic and skinnyfat can bench 1pl8 within a few months of lifting. most normal grown men can do it their first or 2nd time in the gym.
You've never been in a gym in your entire life
ok moron. good luck on your 1pl8 bench goals.
took me 1 year of lifting to bench 1pl8 as a grown man. struggled to bench the bar when I started
>took me 1 year of lifting to bench 1pl8 as a grown man. struggled to bench the bar when I started
it didn't happened, not possible
When I first started going at they gym I could barely bench the empty bar for 7 reps. I was 23yo, 184cm 65kg.
Some people have better lifts than you'd expect by looking at them. I've seen skinnyfat dyel bp 2 plates
It's what happens when you don't listen to themorons on IST. IST is always wrong, fricking deal with it.
>t. dyel
I actually go to the gym and see boomers like him everyday, they all struggle to bench 90 for a couple of reps
No one with that body benches 1pl8 with no training
At his starting weight it would be like doing 5 push ups, its reasonable to believe he could bench that.
You haven't lifted a single day in your entire life
You don't only lose 30lbs during a 5 month cut at 1800kcal. I went from 130kg to 70kg in 1 1/2 years, I also have a crazy transformation behind me and could probably open up a fitness related insta channel or something like that and scam people but I don't want to play with the hopes of people.
What I did:
>extreme cutting, (I overdid it) for 1 year at 1500kcal, every second Saturday I would do a cheat day and eat what I want max 2500kcal per cheatday
>150g-200g proteins, my only carbs were protein wraps and porridge
>6x per week in the gym, 3 cardio days (1h walking/jogging sessions), 1 leg day, 1 upper and 1 lower body
>had a taken crush that motivated me, her boyfriend was a chad and I twisted my psyche to make him my gym nemesis, everytime I wanted to stop I imagined myself in a colosseum with my gym nemesis, me at the ground and him towering over me with his swords in my last moments and him asking me if that is all I got, my gym crush at the stands watching and me screaming not yet homosexual. You need this kind of pathetic larp shit if you have a history of bad friends, family and emotional eating, you have to change your psyche.
>did IST meme shit
>had worse results than redditor
Uh yes?
>had a taken crush that motivated me, her boyfriend was a chad and I twisted my psyche to make him my gym nemesis, everytime I wanted to stop I imagined myself in a colosseum with my gym nemesis, me at the ground and him towering over me with his swords in my last moments and him asking me if that is all I got, my gym crush at the stands watching and me screaming not yet homosexual. You need this kind of pathetic larp shit if you have a history of bad friends, family and emotional eating, you have to change your psyche.
Not reading all that shit but I've had similar weight loss from 130kg to 79kg. I ate clean and rode my bicycle everywhere. Took around a year. Never once counted calories or even thought about being on some epic journey. It just happened.
>>had a taken crush that motivated me, her boyfriend was a chad and I twisted my psyche to make him my gym nemesis, everytime I wanted to stop I imagined myself in a colosseum with my gym nemesis, me at the ground and him towering over me with his swords in my last moments and him asking me if that is all I got, my gym crush at the stands watching and me screaming not yet homosexual. You need this kind of pathetic larp shit if you have a history of bad friends, family and emotional eating, you have to change your psyche.
jerma
By time I was in college all of my fantasies were shonen-esque where I am empowered to fight some non-descript evil and since becoming an author it's like becoming so powerful that my presence in a situation is newsworthy (yonko shows up to an island in one piece). Why don't I lift for women?
700 calorie deficit over the course of 5 months is exactly 30 lb
My crush got taken by a 6’4” fat frick with moobs…. Me and her are both 5’9”, and she 100% wanted someone taller. She always complimented my body and told me my only issue is I’m not 6’5”…..
I thought it was a fricking zoomer meme. How do you use that for motivation… I’m fully demotivated and want to die.
She's obviously stoopid. Good riddance.
>my gym crush at the stands watching and me screaming not yet homosexual
cutting
>>1500 kcal
>2500 kcal every 14 days, so the actual daily average was 1571 kcal
lol
what a fricking lying moron lol
This would unironically be questionable whether its achievable or not even with copious amounts of steroids. Definitely NOT natural. Its not like he was fat but fricking jacked in the beginning, no he wont from zero muscle to that size with visible abs while mostly on a deficit. Its not even remotely possible natty.
Perfectly possible.
Maybe he's on steroids, but this is perfectly achievable natty
it literally isnt
If you are 16 maybe but not at his age. 30 years of bad habits don't just vanish after one year of good work
Actually the body can adapt quickly, I'm talking both mind and flesh
Shut up Black person
If I told you I get up at 3 AM and walk 6 hours every day to work instead of driving would you believe me?
After all it's perfectly achievable natty.
The definition of natty with these folks seems to be: I went to the doctor to get my test checked, and got put on TRT that raised my T levels to that of a 22 year old Olympic athlete.
All the Experts™ in here need to read this carefully. Dude was in the military and then worked an extremely physically demanding job afterwards, he was obviously strong before he completely let himself go. Virtually everyone who hasn't actually seen it in action underestimates how quickly the body gains back lost muscle.
Combine being previously strong, great genetics, strict diet adherence and a well formulated routine and this is possible natty in a year, let alone with trt (which if we are being honest is more likely than not, I'm just playing devils advocate here)
If you still doubt what I wrote above go back and look at his non pumped, clothed pic. That's a natty if I've ever seen one.
if you actually think being in the military gives you superpowers to bypass how human biology works, then you're a literal fricking moron lmao
i bet you also believe captain america was a documentary
>being previously strong, great genetics
>look at pic
> previously strong, great genetics
you cannot possibly believe how much im laughin right now
If you go from working a physical job to sitting in front of a screen and never exercising except to walk to your car to buy fast food you'll look like his before pic before you know it.
Great genetics in this context meaning response to stimulus, moron
Wrong
I lifted for 5 years and got big and then stopped lifting altogether for another 5 years. There was still a base of muscle when I started back up again. As you grow muscle you gain myonuclei. When you stop lifting you lose muscle but the myonuclei remain there pretty much forever
That homosexual redditor is 100% completely untrained
>but but but military!
He's says "I spent time in the miltary"
He doesn't say how long, or in what capacity.
>but but but foundry
This isn't the beginning of the industrial age bro. He wasn't lugging around 100lbs worth of tools from one bay to another. He wasn't le epic skyrim blacksmith. Foundries these days have machines that do the heavy lifting. He was likely and operator behind a co sole of buttons
Do not fall for the homosexual redditors lies
Hahaha look at the little reddit liar!
I looked up the thread and he got called out for PEDs by almost every person and he deleted his comment trying to claim natty LMFAO
Fake natties get the rope
judging by that picture, he's most likely lying about bench pressing 1pl8 for 5 in his first day too, look at those noodle arms
his whole story is made up
I'm a few years out of shape right now, but with a little warmup, I can easily hit 60% of my former max for a set. I won't be able to move my arms for a week once doas, but after that, I have a significantly lower hill to climb.
something I didn't think I'd hate so much is how fast I develop and regain muscle now that I'm older as long as I can keep up the calories. I'm trying to stay slim, and I end up having to live in a cut if I exercise at all so I don't turn back into a meatball. "old man muscle" isn't a myth.
holy moron
being in the military and working at a foundry tells me nothing
most military gays are dyels whose only redeeming feature is having a low bf% to pass those calisthenics tests
Do you not understand the concept of playing devils advocate? I'm not saying he IS natty, I'm saying if the things he said are true then it is POSSIBLE. It's also possible he is full of shit.
I'm saying your arguments are fricking moronic, Black person
none of the things he said make the slightest sense
if he were a former bodybuilder then sure, so-called "muscle memory" could be a factor, but le natural strength and great genetics like he laughably tried to argue in his post are obviously not the reason why he got jacked in less than a year
He isn't even jacked lmao, just lean and a pic pumped after a shoulder workout. Look at the clothed pic and tell me again he is jacked
that makes no difference. he obviously wasn't strong in the before. and nobody with great genetics looks like that
you are a moron with zero capacity for nuanced thought if you genuinely think this way
having great genes in respect to physical response to stimulus means nothing if you experience zero stimulus like this guy clearly didn't. "great genes" aren't a monolith, someone can have great height genes for being a basketballer but shit genes for putting on muscle, for example
>Great genetics
He's bald lol
see
>Dude was in the military and then worked an extremely physically demanding job afterwards, he was obviously strong before he completely let himself go
So why was he a fat sack of shit then? You're too gullible.
You really think its impossible to let yourself go after once being fit? You've never seen the former athletes that have a beer gut the size of a house?
I'm saying, if his job being "physically demanding" was an influence in him gaining muscle so quickly, then why was he so out of shape? It should have kept him in shape if it was a factor, otherwise it wasn't a factor. His lies are so flimsy but you're eating it up because you want to believe something is realistic when it really isn't. He's either frauding his photos or his story. Anyone who has lifted for a year knows you don't go from his before to after in that timeframe as a natty.
probably because there was a long period of time between him quitting his physical job and getting into the gym? if his story is true (not saying it is) then he was presumably sedentary for a long time in between which will make even people with huge muscular potential flabby and pathetic looking
Definitely no
I actually believe he's telling the truth. He has two things going for him that most people who look like that don't have:
>he was presumably fit in the past while doing manual labor on a daily basis, and at the very least has a decent strength base
>being in the military would have at least taught him how to train properly
You can't compare this guy's progress to other novice lifters just because he looked like one when he started. Knowing how to train is the biggest filter in fitness. When people are first getting into lifting they usually waste the entire first year not knowing what the frick they're doing and make zero progress as a result. If this guy actually had the experience to hit the ground running then this is totally doable in a year without taking test.
Delusional
People reflexively assume roider because the idea that this guy could do what they can't hits their insecurity in a way they probably can't put their finger on
Delusional
Welcome to IST
Holy shot hello dyel
If you think for a second this is unrealistic or not natty seriously look at yourself in the mirror and evaluate where everything went wrong in your life
I had Sex with your prostitute of a mom and you came out that's where my life went downhill and miserable, son.
It’s actually sad and speaks to the utterly cucked mindset of people in today’s society (yes I am grouping you “special” ISTners with “regular” normies since you actually aren’t all that different psychologically) that people think he is lying and that he didn’t achieve what he actually did without the use of steroids. If you put in hard work and are consistent you will see results. It won’t be easy and it certainly helps if you have a background in what you are trying to achieve but it is possible to change without the use of steroids or other drugs.
No you wont. You literally wont see results. It is LITERALLY impossible for a natural to achieve that transformation in under a year. it is fricking LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE its not up for a debate. That is absurd transformation even for 3-5 years natty
> That is absurd transformation even for 3-5 years natty
Lmao. Dudes not even that big. All he did what put on newbie gains and then become lean. If you think that is impossible in a year then you should do some neck hangs to failure.
His 'newbie gains' mog better half of CBT and most of the normies i see in a gym.
Unironically most people don’t know what the frick they are doing. People in /cbt/ are just vain dorks who think they look good or people who are trying to improve and just want to post progress and get feedback because they want input or a confidence boost. Just because you post in /cbt/ doesn’t mean your doing it right or the best way. And in regards to normies, unless Dave from accounting is utterly driven to not look disgusting he isn’t going to design his meals like a science experiment and carve out his schedule to where it’s just work/gym/sleep, but if he is then he will make some serious gains and mog the guy who hasn’t been religiously watching his diet and has only been going to the gym off and on for the past few years. It’s all about effort and consistency homosexual.
>inb4 muh genes
Unless you have a major metabolic or muscular disorder nothing genetically is stopping you from losing weight and putting muscle mass on except for your own bad decisions. Genes only matter when you get into elite territory.
>people don't work HARD
>find out what happens when they DO
Sounds lie literally any fake natty influencer ever.
you literally dont look better than him. You are delusional sub 1 year lifter high on noob gains hoping that your transformation will be similar
i lift 2/3/4/5 for 6 reps at 12% bf, been training for 11 years
>I'm natty bro, no protein powder
Lying comes as easily as breathing to the R*dditor
Fitbros, look at how many whales and DYELs destroy their cover saying this isn’t possible. These are the same that talk shit in cbt threads without ever posting their bodies. IST has been infested with not only undisciplined homosexuals, but also crab mentality. Jannies should begin a cleanse.
>t. dyel
People who lift actually know what 1 year natty looks like and it's nothing like that, anon
Per each fit member on this forum, there’s at least 5 undisciplined wienerroaches roaming around us.
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This post is so absolutely ironic that its boggling
>you are actually a crab by pointing out im a crab
Really makes you think
He took steroids and multiple PEDs.
Only idiots believe this is an achievable body transformation in 1 year for a natty.
It's not some amazing achievement for someone who was physical before and has muscle memory.
Same reason the Collorado experiment was possible.
holy frick you seriously think he had the fricking muscle memory before? Jesus get a grip.
It's well known that a roider that does fricking nothing gets more gains that a natty doing a routine
>roider that does fricking nothing
Any evidence?
Kek. So all those roiders on reddit that have some kind of workout routine (even if shit) and barely change? Yeah okay.
>It's well known that a roider that does fricking nothing gets more gains that a natty doing a routine
This a meme parroted by morons based on one flawed study that didn't differentiate between water bloat and muscle.
The study also showed that the roiders who lifted got as much gains as the natty lifter and the roiders who didn't lift combined. In other words, roids automatically added X amount of muscle and didn't do shit beyond that.
>In other words, roids automatically added X amount of muscle and didn't do shit beyond that.
Basically, except it's "lean mass" not muscle. i.e. increased glycogen and water retention. The study was far too short to measure anything meaningful.
I used to be IST in my early 20s /fat/ in my mid 20s back to IST in my late 20s
Even with muscle memory getting back in the rhythms of fitness took a while
I didn’t even stop lifting during my mid 20s
I just only did it 3x a week 20 mins max a day and ate like shit.
I took my a good while to go back to my baseline early 20s physique.
Cope homosexual
Even if he took roids
It is still not a simple inject Roid sit your ass off and eat all you want while gaining muscle and losing fat.
It doesn’t work that way
If you never lifted and suddenly started lifting and injecting steroids you would build more muscle without lifting than a natty who lifts lol
If you want to get actually big and lean that's a different story. That guy is smol af
I agree. It fits the pattern of a nerd who slobbed it up his whole life until he's in his 30s/40s, then decides to "make a change" and hop on PEDs. He's probably going to sign up for BJJ soon.
This
Pathethic that people lie about this
The problem is idiots behind keyboard who have never tried actually training believe it
Anyone who has spent time lifting without drugs knows immediately
Natty, that's a 5-10 year change
For all the blackpilled lookismtroons. If a redditor can reach this level, then you can too.
>average men need to take steroids to get average girls
I'm actually pretty impressed by this transformation
I knew shit was bad after 2013 but take look at this train wreck of a thread; When did /LULZ/ replace IST 9:1?
nattyorjuice agrees its trt/cycle
https://www.reddit.com/r/nattyorjuice/comments/1aho44q/top_post_in_glowups_32_yr_old_1_year_natural/
they hatin
try lifting
That's not natty. Look at this first picture. It's impossible. Not in 1 year
im fricking tired of all these fricking morons posting transformations on TRT
yes you fricking morons, you dont get from left to looking like on the right in 1 year unless you're fricking boosting testosterone
never in the history of all mankind's biology, will you have increased test than before on caloric restrictions
do you understand this? it's fricking against biology to go from b***h boy breasts to jacked on caloric restriction
i cant believe how much this board has gone to shit
5+ years ago everyone would've called out this homosexual on pinning but now all these zoomers believe like morons its actually achievable natty in 1 year lmao with no prior fitness or diet experience
i fricking to delt raises with 30 kgs and my delts are nowhere close to looking like these homosexual's, rounded and popping like that
also i do barbell shrugs with 100 kgs and same, traps aren't even close
so yeah, i call fricking bullshit on this TRT reddit soiiboy
>no prior fitness or diet experience
He had military experience.
>He had military experience.
Military is full of sloppy, barely making it losers
>also i do barbell shrugs with 100 kgs and same, traps aren't even close
That is a very low number, you're supposed to shrug with 100+ lbs above your deadlift
The time frame of 1 year at 33 is suspect. He had huge gyno b***h breasts and 0 muscle
I’m putting this at 70% trt likelihood
>Plebbit
Go back Black person
no 🙂
homosexual
u mad?
Nah you're just a homosexual
oh ya u mad lel
How?!
TRT is not roids, it's natty.
That is not achievable with just "TRT". Although it must be noted that in bodybuilding 500mg test-e per week is considered "TRT" so maybe. Pic rel is 8 months on actual TRT dose prescribed by actual doctor for actual low testosterone.
The transformation this guy did with the worst possible starting physique and thus having absurdly bad genetics, it takes A LOT more than "TRT" to make that change in your body in less than 12 months. The guy took every single steroid under the sun in lethal doses.
You don't know he had bad genetics. Couple years of sedentary life and bad diet can frick you up. Ugly fat deposits doesn't guarantee bad genetics. All these seething fitgays can't accept the possibility that the shortbald redditor may just have had favorable natural genetics meaning his lifestyle change was accompanied by natural beneficial hormone changes.
>shortbald redditor may just have had favorable natural genetics
Do you even listen to yourself
Yeah I do, I noticed the irony before you did but am smart enough to distinguish topical relevance. You aren't, hence why you get everything wrong about life. And also aren't funny.
how does the guys genes that encode for height or hair loss have anything to do with the ones that encode for muscular potential?
this
how are all these people inferring that he has shit genes if he didn't exercise at all in the before photo? Arnold would've looked like he had shit genes if he was born 40 years later and was addicted to WoW instead of the gym.
when guys with good genetics let themselves go they usually don't look that atrocious. this guy looks like his hormones were all messed up
It's one really bad photo, you infer too much. 90% of what looks bad there is the fat distribution, the rest is just low muscle mass. You can't tell anything else.
>posting non natty 'transformations' for attention
roid troony's are so mentally ill it's unreal
>redditors and ISTizens think he is natty
this place is lower IQ than /misc/
Did he become nazi? Wtf
Very impressive.
Are people here joking or do they really think this was done naturally? I can't tell anymore.
No fricking way, I don't even think that's the same guy.
itt
there are only three types of people who defend fake natties:
1. people who don't lift
2. trannies
3. other fake natties
the muscles in his face grew
/gavel
you are a convicted homosexual
All of the homosexuals who can't even admit that the guy did an impressive turn around really need to reevaluate their attitude towards life and others.
Guy went from looking like a prime example of skinny fat cuck to as chad as he could get, if we want to keep it in these terms and it's impressive as frick.
I bet that among his detractors in this thread there's few that look as good as he does. What even makes you wake up in the morning, open a thread like this and think "might aswell shit on someone who did something like this"? I'm curious about the logic behind it.
Fricking Black persongays.
It's because he is lying about doing this natty.
No one would care if he admitted to achieving this with roids.
So you entirely missed the point shitskin.
His transformation is impressive but he’s lying about his TRT. You don’t go from b***h breasts and noodle arms to shredded WHILE adding a plate to your bench IN A DEFICIT at age 30+.
If this was a high schooler it would be more realistic.
He was in the military, muscle memory is a very real thing, stop coping
ZOGbots dont get excepted from reality. Not entirely his fault though as the social stigma of saying “I took testosterone” even though he clearly needed it is insane. He probably doesn’t want to be an incel forever so of course he’s gonna say natty.
>gyno
>fupa
You do not develop those if you are physically active, you also do not get rid of those by being physically active.
Bowling ball is lying out of his ass.
Wow.... what the frick happened to IST I hope for your own sake you guys are trying to troll
Go back to redd*t Black person
No matter how much you cope, gyno and fupa are not fixable without surgery. This is a well known fact.
It is also a well known fact that physically active people will have some sort of definition or muscle mass despite their lack of exercise and bad nutrition for years, something that he does not have.
I am honestly baffled that you think the guy did it in one year while being natural, at best he did it in a year and a half while on test.
>gyno and fupa are not fixable without surgery
NTA but seriously? Seems like there has to be something.
>Loose skin and fat clumps
Nope, sorry. You can mask it by getting big (depending on the severity) but you'll have to get surgery to fix it.
the guys 33, if he joined the military at 18, left as soon as he was eligible and worked his physical job for a couple of years that still gives him a decade of playing vidya and barely moving to look like he did
Brother, even veteran alcoholics from the vietnam era retain at least a little bit of shape in their arms and pecs, even their stomachs if they're lucky.
This guy hasn't done any of that, part of me wants to bet he got into some cushy non-physical job at the military.
You're probably right but it's not impossible. Most of those vets didn't take up playing video games and eating doordash for every meal while also ceasing any and all exercise though
You can also look at veterans from the GWOT era. Seriously, it's not easy to eat away all your muscle and develop lose skin and gyno if you were not fat from the beginning.
>ceasing all exercise
I was a skinnyfat shut-in for years and even at my worst I didn't look like that.
Grunts in the military don't do bodybuilding.
Doubt that he was in some special forces.
>moron with decent genetics fixes his fizeek
>nuIST thinks it's impossible to have abs or bench 255 without PEDs
I gotta stop coming here.
old fit is dead, whats new
boast piss seek
Its seriously really bad. Im way too old to still be on this site with these depressed teenagers
>bench 255 without PEDs
I bench 250 natty with crohns disease 🙂
no one thinks the fyseek is inherently unnatty you dumb ape. its the combination age+timeframe+starting body that is unbelievable
>this is perfectly achievable natty
After 5 years of lifting?
Have you achived that type of body natty yet and going to show us the example?
I believe it. I worked out alot in college, quit until 32 and got back to my old self in 1.5 years of pure dedication.
Holy shit I don’t give a frick about the transformation this dude is only 33 and looks late 40s
Thats just because he has no hair
On the bright side he wont really age more he will look the same when he is in his 40s too
the most important change
onions 2 serious
Nerd cope
Literally all he did was remove his glasses
Easily natural
I hate people that lie like this. Normies will think they can be slobs for 30 years of their lives and then "stop eating junkfood for a couple months" and get back in shape. I've met many that needed to lose a few pounds before christmas, wedding, beach vacation.
He's definitely on PED's, this is impossible within a year, I've done dozens of bulk and cuts, not even considering that he put on muscle while he was cutting. cmon now.
IST will call him a bald dyel boomer but he unironically went from a subhuman soiboi to just a normal guy which is pretty nice.
This is it bros. This is the year I become human and move to detroit.
>redditor gets jacked
lol i called it:
my posts are last and bot close the thread after i posted because i hit the nail on the head
that is their plan, ridiculous as it sounds - they want to transform basedem into universal soldiers with trt for every willing man..
..because west is bankrupt - can't pay boomers what it promised - it's war time, but there are no potential soldiers, not with preferable hormonal profile at least
>eating at or below maintenance
so in essence he claims that is 1 years of noob gains at age 32
Roids
im pretty much fine with it. you'd be shocked what you can do in 1-2 years if you lift and eat enough protien.
and i mean you actually go to the gym every time you are supposed to.
also it probably took 2 years.
He made it.
So can you.
Keep trying.
Never surrender.
all these morons itt
TRT or SARMs. Nobody is that fricking pathetic and 31 and turns it all around in 1 year's time.