i always lol at the "extremely slow progress". as opposed to natty bulking and cutting which is super fast and steroid like? once its all said and done its literally just as fast. If you train 10 years as a natural and you do endless bulk and cut cycles, vs someone who "maingains" or whatever you wanna call it for 10 years, you will both look exactly the same (given that genetics and training is similar etc).
Body recomp is just cutting and newbie gains, its not its own seperate criteria.
No I dont think so. Fat takes alot longer to lose then is does to gain. You might bulk for 3 months then cut for 9 and make the progress of someone who maingained or ran a more marginal surplus for 6 months. Bulking with stupid amount of calories, eating lile a pig works for frauds, not naturals.
Dubious it even works for non beginners
Even for beginners it’s suboptimal
Turning 1 year of progress into 3, nightmare tier efficiency, time wasting, and money dumping.
Basically the worst method there is for fitness.
So I've been at a slight cut for a few months now
My lifts are going up still, albeit slower than my beginner gains
My weight has stayed at 200lbs this whole time (I'm 6'3)
I don't even account for exercise when it comes to my kcal cut and I'm still not losing weight, I am not fat by any means but I figured I'd lose some weight.
Is this recomp?
this is one of the worst images i've seen posted here. what kind of braindead, milquetoast, barstool sports, twitter, instagram, lowest common denominator tiktok type humor do you have to have to think this image was worth saving, and then reposting? you may as well have unironically posted a live laugh love sign or something like that. leave this fricking board.
It's the thing you should be aiming for if you're starting to get IST with a very high bf%
At high bf% you essentially never have a calorie defecit. Take your TDEE, minus 500, do your weights do your cardio and you still lose fat & build muscle because the calories are just *there* on your body all the time. You fatigue your muscles, burn more calories than you consume for the day, lose fat & build muscle. You purely adjust your bf%, it goes down and your weight stays the same because you're building muscle underneath
The idea that you can only cut or only bulk is moronic. Overweight people who have never exercised should not 'cut'. And if you are putting on significant amounts of fat during a 'bulk' then you are eating too much
I fell for this meme for 5 years. I've made more progress in 1 year then in those 5 which a traditional cut and bulk cycle. I swear everything you learn about lifting is right the first time, and eventually it comes full circle and you realize all the "bros" were right, and these fricking intermittent/lean gains/slightly above maintenance, no no no! Don't bulk bro!, bullshitters were bullshitting all along.
If you are stimulating the muscles properly, yes you will "recomp", your body will become more toned even if you don't build much muscle mass, which is honestly the best you can hope for as a natty. If you really want to lose fat and build muscle, you need roids.
the reason 99% of people spend 2 years in the gym with no results before finally giving up is because they are trying to build muscle and lose fat at the same time
The reason 99% of people spend 2 years in the gym with no results is because they go in and do 500000000 bicep curls in sets of 30 reps and never track lifts or attempt to progressive overload
>Nooo you can't just workout and eat food and record progress on lifts and continue to lift more weight >You have to binge eat until you have 50 pounds of fat and tell everyone it's a bulk >That's the only way to get stronger
95% of people that are "bulking" have been obese morons their whole life and always looked like shit and had no self control.
Sure it's hard to gain muscle if you are a 3% think that doesn't eat food but the fact that you homosexuals think you can't get stronger without eating a whole bucket of KFC every night is "right or left, black or white" NPC tier moron logic
These are the same people that have been telling you for over 15 years that you should LOWER protein intake on a bulk lol. All you need is maintenance + calories burned in exercise with a slight surplus every meal.
These are the same people that have been telling you for over 15 years that you should LOWER protein intake on a bulk lol. All you need is maintenance + calories burned in exercise with a slight surplus every meal.
This. Do you think real athletes, such as football, basketball, track and field, swimming, gymnastics and so on, do you think they cut and bulk? No? Of course not.
Arbitrarily adhering to weight numbers that aren't the best for you is the dumbest part of the dumbest sports where it's a challenge to see who can spit and sweat and take the most diuretics before weighing in to post an absurdly stupid fake and gay scale number that means nothing. Absolutely irrelevant to 99.999999999999999999% of people on earth.
I did it with OMAD and low carb.
Went from probably about 20% body fat to under 12% body fat without losing a single pound. I weighed 175 lbs when I changed my eating habits and still weigh 175 lbs now
Based. I basically intermittent fast (no strict rules just the closest thing to what I do to easily describe it) and went from 210 to 185 and all my lifts steadily increased the entire way.
People like to take the very extreme (3-5% body fat) and say "you can't get stronger and lose weight at the same time" when in reality 90% of guys are 20% body fat+ and totally could get stronger and lose weigh at the same time
delusion levels are becoming more severe on the interwebs, we all believe you my man
Based. I basically intermittent fast (no strict rules just the closest thing to what I do to easily describe it) and went from 210 to 185 and all my lifts steadily increased the entire way.
People like to take the very extreme (3-5% body fat) and say "you can't get stronger and lose weight at the same time" when in reality 90% of guys are 20% body fat+ and totally could get stronger and lose weigh at the same time
my man 3-5 % body fat is stage lean pro bodybuilder stuff, you homosexuals cannot get to that doing some fasting or omad or whatever, wtf, we all believe you as well
>body recomp >fat loss
Not necessarily the case. Supposed you weight 200 lbs at 15% bodyfat. You have 30 lbs of body fat. If you gain 10 lbs of entirely muscle, you are now at 14% bodyfat without losing an ounce of fat. You've only changed your body composition. You haven't lost an ounce of fat. Whether or not recomp works is questionable. However, you can gain muscle mass even during a cut so long as your body fat percentage is not too low so recomp is possible for some people. If you're worried about becoming pudgy try a lean bulk instead. You only increase your intake enough that your body fat percentage remains the same. If you're fat, then just cut down until you're a low enough body fat while eating a surplus of protein (1.25+ g/lb of LEAN body mass) and lifting and then lean bulk. In the long term, you'll gain the same amount of muscle if you lean bulk as if you would go on a dirty bulk. >cutting >possible muscle loss
Only if you don't eat enough protein and don't lift. It is easy to maintain muscle mass during a cut simply by eating an adequate amount of protein and lifting regularly. One may only perceive your muscles as getting smaller due to glycogen depletion. Eating a high carb meal every once and a while during the cut will reverse that fairly quickly. Eat at maintenance once per week and you might not notice it.
If you eat intuitively you will naturally go on mini bulks and cuts because you will be hungrier when you need more fuel for gainz and not as hungry when you don't. Just listen to your body.
Body recomposition is real, but it requires more discipline with nutrition than most are going to put in. It also takes a long time. The benefit is that it is more sustainable as a lifestyle and is healthier than going through an extended cut.
However since I am trying to hit my protein goal, i've noticed I am still gaining weight. Gained 3 pounds last two weeks.
Should I cut back on some of the protein foods I am consuming like Greek Yogurt and chicken thighs? Or would I be better off just maintaining my current slow gaining diet then going on a cut?
yea just do it whatever. or dont
>i don't know how to bulk, so bulking is bad. let's try something easier
recomp what you do when you don't know how to cut and bulk and also want to make extremely slow progress
t. cut and bulk chad
child bearing hips
>non-flexed, flexed lean, flexed fat
most likely not even the poster himself
>flexed fat
abs are visible, calling that fat is massive hyperbole
These are mine lol but you're right, first is non-pumped/flexed
Can you bench even the bar
i always lol at the "extremely slow progress". as opposed to natty bulking and cutting which is super fast and steroid like? once its all said and done its literally just as fast. If you train 10 years as a natural and you do endless bulk and cut cycles, vs someone who "maingains" or whatever you wanna call it for 10 years, you will both look exactly the same (given that genetics and training is similar etc).
Body recomp is just cutting and newbie gains, its not its own seperate criteria.
No I dont think so. Fat takes alot longer to lose then is does to gain. You might bulk for 3 months then cut for 9 and make the progress of someone who maingained or ran a more marginal surplus for 6 months. Bulking with stupid amount of calories, eating lile a pig works for frauds, not naturals.
Awful looking chest
Yeah I know, I'm working on it, here's a more recent version. Definitely have been focusing more on form when doing chest and it's helped.
Keep it up. All these haters are fat or small and will not post body
thanks anon
It's possible but you have to work out more than you are currently most likely
good way to stall on all lifts
I’ve been essentially doing body recomp for about 6 months.
It’s slower than cutting but it is also easier to maintain. Y
Dubious it even works for non beginners
Even for beginners it’s suboptimal
Turning 1 year of progress into 3, nightmare tier efficiency, time wasting, and money dumping.
Basically the worst method there is for fitness.
It's just a buzzword for losing weight and building muscle at the same time. The goal of pretty much all fitness regimes.
So I've been at a slight cut for a few months now
My lifts are going up still, albeit slower than my beginner gains
My weight has stayed at 200lbs this whole time (I'm 6'3)
I don't even account for exercise when it comes to my kcal cut and I'm still not losing weight, I am not fat by any means but I figured I'd lose some weight.
Is this recomp?
yes, pretty optimal recomp as well, gj anon
this is one of the worst images i've seen posted here. what kind of braindead, milquetoast, barstool sports, twitter, instagram, lowest common denominator tiktok type humor do you have to have to think this image was worth saving, and then reposting? you may as well have unironically posted a live laugh love sign or something like that. leave this fricking board.
Have sex
imagine getting this mad at an image on IST, gonna cry homosexual? kek
>he never came up against insurmountable odds then said frick it we ball at what seemed to be his lowest
live laugh love has gone full circle and become funny again boomer
It's the thing you should be aiming for if you're starting to get IST with a very high bf%
At high bf% you essentially never have a calorie defecit. Take your TDEE, minus 500, do your weights do your cardio and you still lose fat & build muscle because the calories are just *there* on your body all the time. You fatigue your muscles, burn more calories than you consume for the day, lose fat & build muscle. You purely adjust your bf%, it goes down and your weight stays the same because you're building muscle underneath
The idea that you can only cut or only bulk is moronic. Overweight people who have never exercised should not 'cut'. And if you are putting on significant amounts of fat during a 'bulk' then you are eating too much
only works if you are a fat dyel and/or are on PEDs.
Still a waste of time compared to just cutting then bulking
>image
>only men may recomp or bulk
>women are only allowed to cut
Yes.
I fell for this meme for 5 years. I've made more progress in 1 year then in those 5 which a traditional cut and bulk cycle. I swear everything you learn about lifting is right the first time, and eventually it comes full circle and you realize all the "bros" were right, and these fricking intermittent/lean gains/slightly above maintenance, no no no! Don't bulk bro!, bullshitters were bullshitting all along.
It's all bullshit. Can't go wrong with eating healthy and working out. Specifics don't matter.
If you are stimulating the muscles properly, yes you will "recomp", your body will become more toned even if you don't build much muscle mass, which is honestly the best you can hope for as a natty. If you really want to lose fat and build muscle, you need roids.
the reason 99% of people spend 2 years in the gym with no results before finally giving up is because they are trying to build muscle and lose fat at the same time
The reason 99% of people spend 2 years in the gym with no results is because they go in and do 500000000 bicep curls in sets of 30 reps and never track lifts or attempt to progressive overload
Most people are so fricking moronic I swear..
>Nooo you can't just workout and eat food and record progress on lifts and continue to lift more weight
>You have to binge eat until you have 50 pounds of fat and tell everyone it's a bulk
>That's the only way to get stronger
95% of people that are "bulking" have been obese morons their whole life and always looked like shit and had no self control.
Sure it's hard to gain muscle if you are a 3% think that doesn't eat food but the fact that you homosexuals think you can't get stronger without eating a whole bucket of KFC every night is "right or left, black or white" NPC tier moron logic
These are the same people that have been telling you for over 15 years that you should LOWER protein intake on a bulk lol. All you need is maintenance + calories burned in exercise with a slight surplus every meal.
This. Do you think real athletes, such as football, basketball, track and field, swimming, gymnastics and so on, do you think they cut and bulk? No? Of course not.
those with weight categories surely do
Arbitrarily adhering to weight numbers that aren't the best for you is the dumbest part of the dumbest sports where it's a challenge to see who can spit and sweat and take the most diuretics before weighing in to post an absurdly stupid fake and gay scale number that means nothing. Absolutely irrelevant to 99.999999999999999999% of people on earth.
I did it with OMAD and low carb.
Went from probably about 20% body fat to under 12% body fat without losing a single pound. I weighed 175 lbs when I changed my eating habits and still weigh 175 lbs now
Based. I basically intermittent fast (no strict rules just the closest thing to what I do to easily describe it) and went from 210 to 185 and all my lifts steadily increased the entire way.
People like to take the very extreme (3-5% body fat) and say "you can't get stronger and lose weight at the same time" when in reality 90% of guys are 20% body fat+ and totally could get stronger and lose weigh at the same time
delusion levels are becoming more severe on the interwebs, we all believe you my man
my man 3-5 % body fat is stage lean pro bodybuilder stuff, you homosexuals cannot get to that doing some fasting or omad or whatever, wtf, we all believe you as well
I believe that you are fat
>body recomp
>fat loss
Not necessarily the case. Supposed you weight 200 lbs at 15% bodyfat. You have 30 lbs of body fat. If you gain 10 lbs of entirely muscle, you are now at 14% bodyfat without losing an ounce of fat. You've only changed your body composition. You haven't lost an ounce of fat. Whether or not recomp works is questionable. However, you can gain muscle mass even during a cut so long as your body fat percentage is not too low so recomp is possible for some people. If you're worried about becoming pudgy try a lean bulk instead. You only increase your intake enough that your body fat percentage remains the same. If you're fat, then just cut down until you're a low enough body fat while eating a surplus of protein (1.25+ g/lb of LEAN body mass) and lifting and then lean bulk. In the long term, you'll gain the same amount of muscle if you lean bulk as if you would go on a dirty bulk.
>cutting
>possible muscle loss
Only if you don't eat enough protein and don't lift. It is easy to maintain muscle mass during a cut simply by eating an adequate amount of protein and lifting regularly. One may only perceive your muscles as getting smaller due to glycogen depletion. Eating a high carb meal every once and a while during the cut will reverse that fairly quickly. Eat at maintenance once per week and you might not notice it.
If you eat intuitively you will naturally go on mini bulks and cuts because you will be hungrier when you need more fuel for gainz and not as hungry when you don't. Just listen to your body.
Body recomposition is real, but it requires more discipline with nutrition than most are going to put in. It also takes a long time. The benefit is that it is more sustainable as a lifestyle and is healthier than going through an extended cut.
I’ve been bulking and cutting for years and the only thing that has ever worked for me is low carb and 3-4g of protein per kilo.
Calories don’t even matter granted you eat the right amount of rice
>just eat 270g of protein bro
kek how much do you weigh?
I'm a skinnyfat frick, and I'm trying to recomp.
However since I am trying to hit my protein goal, i've noticed I am still gaining weight. Gained 3 pounds last two weeks.
Should I cut back on some of the protein foods I am consuming like Greek Yogurt and chicken thighs? Or would I be better off just maintaining my current slow gaining diet then going on a cut?
would have told you, but you're reddit spacing so have a nice day