>refuses to grow even thought it's isolated as frick
>can't lift that much
I fricking hate these muscles. They don't deserve to be worked out.
>refuses to grow even thought it's isolated as fuck. >can't lift that much
>refuses to grow even thought it's isolated as frick
>can't lift that much
I fricking hate these muscles. They don't deserve to be worked out.
Try seated military press, once I got up around 70 to 80 lb dumbbells that's when I saw good gains on my shoulders
Try upright rows
This is also good advice. Seated DB presses work the lateral and rear deltoid much better than standing BB pressing
I get the difference between DB presses and BB presses. But what’s the difference between sitting and standing?
Seated pressing just takes your back, core and legs out of the equation so you're mainly bottlenecked by your delts/tris/upper traps
back supported or?
>Seated DB presses work the lateral and rear deltoid much better than standing BB pressing
Not if you do behind the neck press barbell standing OHP version
Yea ofc but I'm not gonna recommend BtN pressing on IST, people think they're gonna kill you and even if some budding lifter anon tries them at my recommendation he's probably gonna go full moron and hurt himself. I personally love them though
>seated military press
how does that differ from seated dumbbell shoulder press
Kinda semantics but military press usually refers to strict standing OHP with a barbell
Have fun :^)
you get this from seated dumbbell press?
I did yeah. It's horrible. But could be because of bad form
imagine wasting your time doing this exercise as a natural lifter
>that shoulderlet thinking he will get wide by doing this shit
My shoulders didn't get really big until i could do almost 2 plate ohp and rows. The big muscles matter more than the small ones
It's one of my favorite lifts, and I've had compliments on the gains I've gotten because of it. I bet you hate doing them, so you don't put in the same effort as you would for a bench press. Stick with it and try to trick yourself into enjoying pushing out a few extra reps, and be patient - smaller muscle groups need time to grow. Also don't neglect your front and rear delts.
I like these too
Focus on getting strong OHP, then you'll have big shoulders. Also, no cheating. Press from deadstop and from all the way down, shrug your shoulders at the top.
You need to ask you shoulders politely to grow, it's what I do.
real Chads do front raises
I like to do L raises from time to time
i didnt have a bench for 6 months but i had a rack. i basically did OHP, Lat Raises and Rows 2-3 times a week for 6 months strait, my shoulders absolutely exploded
Try lighter weights. Traps take over during heavy lateral raises. Try just using a 5 lb dumbbell
>try raising outreached arm
>feel traps activating
>bend arm chicken wing raises
>only side delt
so how many reps?
50 to 100
Focus on contracting side delt as well.
Try fixing your cadence and form.
This exercise is what changed the game for me on shoulders, absolute killer for delts
>do it seated or on cables so you don't swing like a moron and turn it into trap exercise
>spam the shit out of it and once you can't do them properly, start doing partials untill even those stop being possible to do
>if you started from 5kg dumbell and now you do 7kg dumbell it is similiar to progressing from 50kg BP to 70kg BP for reps
I also always struggled with it, but managed to finally feel it by doing this
>Only lift it up to 45-60 degrees. More and the traps take over
>Hold it for half a second on the top position (45 to 60 degrees) and come down slowly
>5-6kg, sets of 25 to 35 reps
Do upright rows before you do lateral raises and you'll feel those motherfrickers burn. The problem is that all of you are trying to do isolations only for side delt which isn't optimal.
Compound + Isolation = Mega gains.
what’s considered heavy on these? currently can do 12 reps 12kg.