>refuses to grow without roids no matter what you do
i fricking hate this muscle WHY WONT YOU GROW YOU PIECE OF SHIT FRICK YOU
>refuses to grow without roids no matter what you do
>refuses to grow without roids no matter what you do
i fricking hate this muscle WHY WONT YOU GROW YOU PIECE OF SHIT FRICK YOU
It just takes a while man
>hurts when i try heavier weights to force them to grow
i'm gonna start doing 90 reps of upright rows with an empty z bar every day from now on until these pieces of shit grow or i tear my rotator cuffs off (maybe they are already torn to shit)
it's a small muscle. you don't need larger weights to trigger muscle growth, just more time under tension.
what does that mean, should i stay at the top of the exercise? it hurts when i do that during lateral raises
It means do your reps slower, don't just throw the weights
2 seconds up, 2 seconds down. Hold for a moment at the top, if you want to. Could even go 3u3d, or 4, depending on the exercise, but i usually do 2u2d
delt is one of the biggest muscles moron
Functionaly it's not, since you aren't using all 'heads' at once to lift weight but only one, maybe two at a time, and rest is used to stabilize.
It's just lateral raises but overhead and with plates instead of dumbels.
>Functionaly it's not, since you aren't using all 'heads' at once to lift weight but only one, maybe two at a time, and rest is used to stabilize.
autistic hairsplitting
No it isn't, dumbass. His reason for his advice is that it's a small muscle so the differentiation between it's functional size regarding the lifts and it's larger size as a muscle group is entirely relevant.
frick off moron 🙂
Checked. You are one dumb motherfricker.
thank you
For all I care, you could call the "arm muscle" one of the biggest ones, doesn't mean that bicep and tricep are synergistic muscles that both work towards the same movement.
deltoid shares a sigular insertion point on the lateral surface of the arm.....
And yet it does three different movements, two of which are antagonistic and one where other two groups barely help.
So for the purpose of any given functional move(only 2/3rds are working synergistically), it becomes one of the smallest muscles.
Running, jump rope.
No you're factually wrong lmaooooo
Where in God's name did you learn this misinformation?
Delts are actually a bigger muscle than pecs, but like another anon already said in the thread, all three heads aren't utilized together a ton
>it's a small muscle
The deltoids are the largest muscle in the upper body. The only other muscle close to it is the triceps. Everything else is smaller.
>https://nmbl.stanford.edu/publications/pdf/Holzbaur2007a.pdf
Nonetheless, the size of the muscle does not determine what rep ranges are preferable to train it. It's merely the fact that the deltoids are 50/50 in slow to fast twitch fiber. Deltoids themselves benefit more from "endurance" types of exercise because of this such as higher rep ranges, etc. If you're worried about recruiting type IIa/IIx fibers, then take it to failure. However, because they are so large, they will require more recovery time than other muscles contrary to what many believe when they spread the false belief that the Deltoids are a small muscle. It simply looks smaller than something like the lats or pecs because it has a much smaller surface area.
>another moron
I found the cheat code bros.
Lu raises. Spam em. You’ll have a soreness you’ve never felt in your delts. You remember your first couple months ever lifting? That type of soreness.
Hits all parts, hits traps a bit too. Look up Lu’s explanation on them for more info, start light. I’m spamming 8-10lbs atm.
Do this every other day.
>Look up Lu’s explanation on them for more info
can you post a link? there are Black folk in my computer and on the internet that have shit all over the search algorythms to show me the exact opposite of what i'm searching for
frick i hate the new internet so much fricking Black folk ruined it i'm old enough to remember how easy searching for something was before people decided that algorythms know better what to suggest than i know what i want to watch
No and I refuse to believe you won’t find it just searching “Lu Xiaojun Lu raises”
If anything, watch the exact opposite which comes up and do it in reverse because the opposite should be “lu put downs”
You can just do iron crosses and weighted burpees. Or if you're a pussy, the resistance band versions of these.
You guys should try incorporating heavy partials into your delt work.
>Pick up a weight you cannot even do a single full rep of
>Only move your arms out to 30-45 degrees away from your body before coming back down
>Once it starts to burn and you can't do more start bouncing SLIGHTLY to get a few more reps in
The burn in your shoulders only will be unreal. You will also preferentially work your delts rather than your traps in this movement because you're only doing the first part of the lift before your traps have a chance to take over.
Standing barbell overhead press moron. Also do handstands up against the wall everyday and just hold it for 60+ seconds for 4 sets. Make sure to push your body "through" the ceiling so you don't get impingements.
i don't use barbells anymore, barbell OHP used to be my best lift and it did not grow my side delts at all
No it wasnt. Or maybe it was, you lifted 30kg and it was your best lift. There is not a single person on earth that reps 2pl8 OHP and has small shoulders. Or 1,5pl8 for that matter. Even 1pl8 for 6-8 reps, not a single person can do that and have small shoulders.
No fricking wonder your shoulders are small when you are "spamming" 10lbs lateral raises fricking moron.
my ohp was 1pl8, my delts are invisible, my arm is flat on the side all the way from the shoulder to the elbow
ohp does frick all for your side delts
i love when natties think they know shit. post bodies giga dyels
roidtroons get out of my bread please
It's hard cause most exercises use hands, which unnecessarily involves the elbows. Ideally you'd want to isolate it by just using your arms. Not sure what exercise that might be though. It's the same fricking problem as with isolating pecs, but at least you got pec deck for that.
If anyone knows what I'm talking about - please share the exercise/machine.
Perfect!
Use a weight that feels absurdly light the first 10 reps. Try to get to 50.
shoulders will grow no matter who you are...androgen receptor density is so high if you lift hard and eat right they will grow
the things you can actually complain about are calf size (muscle fiber type plays a huge role) vascularity, insertions, fat distribution, hormonal profile (there’s always solutions to this)
>vascularity
does anyone actually give a shit about vascularity?
people who want to die to a single paper cut.
>shoulders will grow no matter who you are
>that's why they are the biggest giveaway of roid usage, because they grow so easily
are you being moronic on purpose
I literally mentioned androgen receptor density you fricking sperg
You fricking moronic Black person do realize that testosterone that your body naturally produces is also an androgen? Not just exogenous testosterone and shoulders have high androgen receptor density like the guy mentioned.
They grow easy for naturals and they go ridiculously easy for roiders. Just because something works even greater for roiders doesnt mean that it doesnt work for naturals.
nattys talking about getting roider gains
not gonna happen bucko
If you want them to explode then you should just do a drop set at the end of every workout. I start off with 15kg dumbbells, go to failure once with full range of motion then wait 10 seconds and go to failure with partials. Wait 15 seconds then go do the same with 12.5kgs. Repeat with the 10s, 7.5s, 5s, and then do 2.5s with half range of motion only at the top only going half way down to keep constant tension and only stop when I’m holding back tears. I stopped them because they grow my shoulders so fast they start looking disproportionate.
>my credentials
awful photo, do better
>doesn't post body
Frick off dyel
It's a small muscle that recovers easily. Just start training it with high intensity. Also learn what is torque and pick exercises that don't need zero to none force at the bottom position when it's also other muscles working.
Box for an hour or two. They will be sore and pumped for days. You can hit a bag or shadow box.
Lift heavy. 5-8 rep sets. 2-3 times per week.
10-15 rep range with medium-low weight is for roiders and c**ts that hit half a dozen isolation exercises where they'd be too burnt out to finish their day if they went heavy.
>refuses to grow without being fat no matter what you do
Unfortunately, delts and calves are one of those genetic muscles. Either you start out with big calves or you're going to have small calves even after putting a couple inches on them and will likely plateau before you can add one more. Delt size is quite genetic with even roiders like Arnold having fairly small delts in relation to his other muscles because he doesn't have the genes for extraordinary delts. Whereas pic related was noted for having some of the best delts in Bodybuilding.
Do boxing. Learn the basics on how to throw a punch. Get a bag and just go ham everyday. My shoulders never grew until I boxed
Shoulders have been a b***h to workout. I can't do heavy weight low rep without it hurting in the bad way, unlike the other muscles that can take it.
Why are shoulders like this?
Are you doing 20+ sets a week?
Are you lifting until failure?
Are you doing drop sets?
Are you doing isoholds?
Do all of these things. Report back in 2 months.
>WHY WONT YOU GROW YOU PIECE OF SHIT FRICK YOU
literally me late at night watching myself in the bathroom mirror making mind muscle connection