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Imagine destroying your health because you felt insecure about your body. Woman tier behavior
>making shit up to cope
lmao
>heart strain
>liver strain on orals
>disrupting your endocrine system to the point of needing aromatase inhibitors to not grow b***h breasts
>worse skin
>assymetrical progression of muscle and tendon strentgh
>heart strain
Cardio.
>Liver
Temporary elevation means literally nothing.
>AI
That has nothing to do with ""disrupting your endocrine system"" moron. You just have higher test and other aromatizing compounds and therefore may need to bring that aromatization down.
>skin
Depends on compounds and personal reaction. Things like acne are not guaranteed and can be avoided even if you are prone.
>tendons
That's not even an actual problem. You just pace yourself on putting on plates.
You're the one having the heart attack, believe what you want.
>Y-you gonna have a heart attack I swear!!
>just two more weeks!
Ok kid.
>That has nothing to do with ""disrupting your endocrine system"" moron. You just have higher test and other aromatizing compounds and therefore may need to bring that aromatization down.
I'm just going to quote this so everyone can see how fricking moronic you are, holy shit
You're an idiot.
>this has nothing to do with x
>it just causes x to happen to your body
also it's your, dumbass lmao
>also it's your
Wow you're fricking stupid.
>Wow your fricking stupid.
Fixed again bud, jeez those roids rotting your brain eh? Let me help you:
>your
possesive, when you want to declare ownership
>you're
you are, when you are addressing someone (like in this sentence!)
therefore,
>Wow your fricking stupid
is correct because you are declaring ownership of your own stupidity
check and mate atheists
FRICK OFF BACK TO REEEDDIT YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN YOU FRICKING homosexual
been here since 2009 chuds, you just can't take the elite level trolling
seems like you two are sufficiently angry, doesn't that mean my job here is done? *le troll fece*
>60iq trolling
Yea def “elite” level
that's all it took to hook you, says more about you than me doesn't it?
Hey anon, does your mom know you’re gay?
Lololololol trolled!
This is the most autistic troll I’ve ever seen you must be a 10yr old anon. I hope you die
>That has nothing to do with ""disrupting your endocrine system"" moron
Oh no bros he's using gear but doesn't even know what endocrine means... Did Dirk from MorePasteMoreWaste do this?
strain
not real if you live a healthy lifestyle (cardio + eating) and dont take the most extreme compounds in moronic amounts constantly (like clen)
strain on orals
nac + tudca + milk thistle + your liver regenerates just fine
your endocrine system to the point of needing aromatase inhibitors to not grow b***h breasts
xenoestrogens, microplastics, onions and hormones in everything and birth control in the water already disrupts your endorcrine system
and you dont grow b***h breasts on dry compounds
its not that hard to balance AIs and SERMs if you take more extreme stacks because you are insane, you can still look insanely good without them and btfo natties
skin
tretinoin + chemical peeler + dermarolling + moisturizer + sunscreen + facewash + cardio + diet
progression of muscle and tendon strentgh
very easy to not get your shit fricked up with this lol, just dont be moronic and dont egolift
any other moronic stupid take?
Doing all that shit just to stay alive and look dyel? No, thank you. I'm not moronic.
moron
That seems like an insane amount of work, for what exactly?
What is the pro here?
Basically all of that is unnecessary. He makes it seem way more complicated. And the point is to get yoked.
get yoked for what? I am not seeing the tradeoff for health
Because you want to. Listen if you want to be small that's cool, not everybody does.
but why do you want to be big?
Because it's awesome. Why do you want to be weak and small?
The amount of mad natties in this thread is pretty funny.
To be a swol ass waiter obviously
mogging incels on 4chuds. I mean , I assume they saw it? When you mog them they don’t respond…so mogging nobody I guess…anonymously
they increase your estrogen in the long term, you cant quit or youll become a femboy
>literally just making shit up to cope
your body converts the extra test to estrogen in order to balance the hormones in your body, thats what happens when you frick with hormone balance
eg. gyno in roid users
theres more side effects:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-steroids-bad#side-effects
>inb4 untrustworthy source!!!
there are sources listed alongside the article, so you can fact-check
>your body converts the extra test to estrogen in order to balance the hormones in your body
No moron. Testosterone naturally converts a certain % to estrogen. It's called aromatization. Your body isn't "balancing" anything. So therefore if you have a ton of testosterone your e2 will rise as well. You just use aromatase inhibitors to reduce the aromatization. And when you stop injecting tons of test and consequently your test goes back to normal levels your e2 naturally drops with it.
>dude muh source
Did you believe D.A.R.E class too, moron.
That article says nothing like what you said.
I get that needle are scary. But there are plenty of real disadvantages to steroids without making up your own.
take some estrogen neutralizers or some shit
and what's to say you are fricking with it? maybe you just want it higher
aromatase inhibitors - yes this shit sounds good.
where can I get some ACTUAL decent info?
also hGH or whatever other shit I might need
btw I'm 6'2", decent shape, have a really nice wiener and balls (8.5x6.5 - balls are heavy, mom's spaghetti)
I think I should try a 6 month of this, idk, someone put some decent real links
>what are Aromatase Inhibitors and SERMs, what's PCT
Jesus, can't you at least research the things you're afraid of?
>you cant quit or youll become a femboy
Oh boy time to start and then immediately stop roiding!
imagine thinking doing a few test cycles with some mild extras like mest, primo, var, etc destroys your health lmfao
If you are mentally ill enough to do one cycle, you are mentally ill enough to continue doing more.
> inb4 "muh slippery slope"
homosexual please, how many roidtrannies do you know that have done just 1 cycle?
It's because when you actually do roids you realize they aren't actually a big deal and all the scaremongering was bullshit.
oh yeah doing 1-2 test cycles a year will surely frick up your health lmfao you dont know shit about health you clueless homosexual I bet you do zero cardio too
Your mental health is already fricked if you're insecure enough to pin yourself year-round for no benefit. It's like smoking because you think it makes you look cool, but with all the hassle of shooting heroin.
I’ve literally only done one cycle.
Checkmate homosexual
The world is a big scary place for betas like this guy. Desperate to stop others from getting ahead the beta will say anything to stop others from achieving their potential and thus leaving him behind in his self-imposed limitations and stagnation.
>Steroids are insanely helpful to achieve a good body they must be bad
>steroids bad!
>any dose of steroids will destroy your body!
lmao fricking normies
Oh oh, you triggered the roidtards that belive more needles = more gf but never tried to train charisma/personality so they're stuck here forever complaining and roiding.
>t.normie with a gf, she let me smash cause i'm goofy lmao
>not being jacked AND having a personality
lol
and what's wrong with improving your body?
They hated him because he spoke the truth
Anon you crazy !
I'm very glad there's other people on this gay board with based opinions
Dilate, trenny. You will never be a real man.
Based, making roidgays seethe.
>DESTROYING your health
Is this the result of the "war on drugs"? Americans are so addled in the head about le drugs bad that they can no longer understand the relationship between dose and effect?
I talked with a girl last night who told me her ex overdosed on steroids, he tore his own grandmother in half before his heart exploded.
Kek the replies are seething
i dont roid, i will never roid because my dad would be mad, but this post is extremely gay
Imagine taking a small risk for a short time to permanently improve your physique, athletic performance and as a result ultimately your health
>destroying your health
not even necessary, quit nattyspamming
Bingo. Imagine being so low test you need steroids to actual get big lmfao
B-B-BUT LOOK AT MY EPIC DEATH STAR DELTS!!!!!
(just don't look at my wrinkled, aged face)
(I had a 2 year prime)
(khv, girls just think my body is too much)
>life of a roidgay
Natty chads rise tf up, longevity and healthy > muh deltoids
>they hated him for he spoketh the truth
Ultra based.
>Roiding to look natty while destroying your health
Based.
>roid to look natty
sure showed me
Post body
Body dysphoria? Or are you just morons who buy the lies of the denying frauders in /cbt/ ?y
Nice single bed poor gay
I agree good to see a good natty physique like yours.
Should you bulk if you have a body in the first pic?
Yea.
Yeah you should but you also need to stick to your lifting schedule if you're trying to get out of that mode
you could have had that after 1-2 years natty....
post body
Yeah I had cannonball delts around when I was able to ohp 1pl8 for the first time, Which was 2 months in. Just gotta grind anons
>wants huge delts
>cant perform OHP due to shoulder joint problems
>1pl8
>cannonball delts
do anons who can’t 1pl8 really think that’s when you get cannonball delts?
for real
I OHP 150 for 3x5 strict form no push press gay shit and my delts are meh
OHP mainly works the front delt. Cannonball delts require dedication to lateral raises and reverse flyes
>everybody lifts for strength instead of hypertrophy
>waah, why can't I grow muscle size as a natty?
or
>waah, why can I only grow mmuscle size by increasing my dose? it's like working out doesn't even do anything!
bodybuilding is truly forgotten.
Deluded
>you could have had that after 1-2 years natty...
this
i thought OP was unironically a natty transformation
picrel is me when i lifted 5x a week, took lifting seriously, natty.
i was 155lbs in the pic at 5'8"
i look flabby af now but i just do like 10 pull ups a day at the moment and haven't lifted in 2 years. lurking IST for inspo
That's funny because he looks way better than you. Much, much thicker.
>That's funny because he looks way better than you. Much, much thicker.
yeah might be a bad pic of OP. i see what you mean now though, his arms, chest, and shoulder bigger
thank you for your contribution to the cursed physiques wtf kind of abs insertions are those
This is the result of 15/16 years of natty lifting and OP blows him away
disagree, that guy looks great, isn't perspective+light faking, and has a better body than OP by far.
Agreed, that is Sandow tier musculature
This guy is better in almost every way. Op just has roided out delts, the rest of his physique is shit.
that's a great physique, just lacking a bit on the chest, maybe its shit insertion genetics, id rather have this than a roiding one
Way better looking than OP
Literally an ideal body
Hi.
My name is anon and I have never done steroids.
I ruined my health with alcohol instead.
Thanks.
keep coping
keep dying at 40
whatever delusion helps you keep coping lol
Lees than 1% of roid users take so much that they die at the age of 40.
now do a before/after of your balls and hairline
This gayboy wants to see balls lmaooo
kys
I'd like to meet you in person to discuss this old fart's quote you've been spamming with some good beating.
sick of seeing exploded delts and traps of these roid gays. weak minds and and weak emotional control ; makking their body an irreversible chemistry experiement. trannies are only one step worse than these homosexuals
you sure care a lot about what some random strangers do to their own bodies..if I didnt know any better I would conclude that you are, well, jealous as frick because you are too fearful to inject anything in your DYEL body even if the risks are negligible.
lmao I took this pic. Glad to see her feet being appreciated
>roiding for this
2 years natty progression just 5 times as fast, congrats lmao. Only acceptable reason to juice is if you compete, period.
Deluded
Bet you were one of those people who said Zyzz was achievable natty
ywnbam
So much natty gay cope in here
Just a reminder, you can never EVER go back to being natty. Even if others never know, you will always know.
And how do you get around how pathetic it all is? Injecting unknown chemicals just to get a shortcut to looking good? Doesn't seem like you could explain that to a friend or gf without them thinking you are seriously fricked up
>Ur not natty!!
Who gives a shit. It's a meaningless term.
>friends and gf
Nobody actually cares.
Holy frick anon you could at least have tried making the health argument, but no, you choose to say the most moronic shit. Literally no one fricking cares except you. Literally kys for posting 60iq, low self esteem garbage
damn u mad roider? ye u mad loooool
You sound triggered anon, did he hit a nerve? Does your gf know you take anabolic steroids because you are insecure with your body and its natural capabilities? Does she know you inject synthetic chemicals in your body in an attempt to repair the years of psychological trauma you have endured?
Yup totally seething rn. I don’t even take roids you morons. Must be hard being dumb as shit and coping this much
loooool ur so mad u actually went online and looked for a pic to post
can u imagine being that pathetic LMAO
Have another anon
pure cope and seethe, love to see it
Anon why are you trying so hard to compensate for the fact that you’re small? I’m genuinely concerned for you anon you need therapy
This
the definition of curse. There are only two ways out: TRT forever or experience a second puberty from a female perspective. The comments from the little balls are so shallow and stupid. Totally inconsequential, as if the steroid rage was at work. Likely it is... and their brains would never be able to figure it out.
Now post testicles
can someone actually give the full pill on steroids?
I am betting they are totally ok and if you ramp up / down right with proper TRT and other shit and also work out a lot it'll be perfectly fine
what is a good/proven regimen?
Where do you even get roids?
Could I order androgen cream off of a ftm site would that work
>roiding for this
Everything is still small except your shoulders which are an obvious giveaway that you’re a roidcel
I'm seeing a lot of shit flinging. Not a lot of people posting bodies.
Weird.
bump so I can keep trolling braindead roiders
I don't think trolling works if you're the one who's posting the angry responses.
>roiding for a natty physique
Op said that steroids are bad and you shouldn't do and all am seeing is people mad at it when is natties gonna be happy?
talked to a girl last night who told me about this guy who was a very well known athlete at our college. she said his dick was shriveled away because of the steroids and he couldn't even use it
>believing femoids
>source: a woman told me
jfc
>dick shriveled away and couldnt even use it
How moronic is this? Is this bait? Did i just get baited?
>yeah bro i watched this kid die on weed once shit was crazy
>talked to a girl last night
LOL good one anon
at least try to make the demoralization believable, this reads like some 5th grade shit.
you're crazy if you think he stopped roiding. he just lowered his dose. there's no way his balls work after doing a pro stack for many years.
I talked to this dudes gf once and she said that his dick grew 4 inches from a 400 a week test cycle and also he grew 5 inches taller
>all the cop replies
Yeah, steroids can wreck your dick.
However that's from steroid abuse. You can absolutely safely cycle roids and suffer no longterm consequences beyond sick gains.
Steroids might break your dick. But they're not going to shrink it. Lol
A dude's dick that's constantly flaccid is "shriveled" yeah, the terminology checks out. Your dick literally shrivels when it's not hard. Also interestingly enough if you go long enough without inflating your dick the tissues in it do in fact atrophy.
Lol okay
I blame Scooby honestly. He put grills into the heads of young men that they too can look like 2012-era Jeff Seid if they partake in the anabolic ballet. Alas, testosterone is literally the devil - our frail bodies simply are not equipped to handle this most dangerous hormone - it is completely unnatural. Yes my IST friends, better heed OPs advice, he seems very wise and concerned about the brethrens health. Nothing wrong about staying small and skinnyfat if the alternative is the terrible hormone known as testosterone. Thanks OP.
Testosterone should be banned.
RoidTrannies defending their hormone usage to the death just regular trannies, curious! Wonder if roid grooming is a thing.
>doing roids to achieve a natty phsyique
show me somebody natty who has that much on the delts you can't. show me your body compared to OP's still look like shit right well guess what lifting as natty is a fricking joke you have to stay at 155lbs year around to look lean
There's literally several people in every CBT that have shoulders like that.
>cbt
aka roided heads
also the guy in your pic look fat as frick compared to op and he is pose frauding
The OP picture is angle frauding in heavy down-lighting and still barely has ab cuts, cope harder
Imagine having to inject yourself with drugs for the rest of your life for that.
>There's literally several people in every CBT that have shoulders like that.
And all of them juice, so what's your point? Can't you even tell that? DYEL?
Yeah but I know that I don't juice so what's your point
>t. moronic loser who didn't have the discipline to actually progress in the gym
Try lifting you coping homosexual. This if how I look despite not even properly dieting. If you actually take time to go to the gym multiple times a week an eat right, you can 100% look like the OP on the right while being natty.
This fricking board is delusional, and so are 90% of roiders who think they need steroids to look good.
post body
>Claims to be natty
>Literal moon face
lmao you are really comparing yourself with the OP pic you look like a fricking dyel
literally double the size of the tricep
>zoom the right pic in
>the right arm is much bigger
wow, so this is the IQ of defeatists.
Cope, post body
>Roiding for this
>Roiding for anything
NGMI
I fricking hate nattys
>roiding for this
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA weakgay dyels never stop being funny
How is taking steroid any different from being a troony?
Both take hormones to make to fix their body dysmorphia. Perhaps steroid users and trans people's are comrades in hormones after all.
one is to masculinize, the other is to feminize. Now I’m no expert, but I *think* masculinizing is different from feminizing. The opposite in fact. Glad I could explain it to you.
What about trans dudes.
got me there, although I don’t advocate for women to roid
I've got about 3-4 months of weight loss before I start some serious weight lifting. Are roids even worth it considering I am not healthy bros?
>asthma
>have had somewhat of heart issues(multiple ecgs and a heart scan - turned out nothing but still get palpitations and heart racing when I stand up-down and sometimes pain)
>very shit health in general - weather gets a bit hot and I feel ill the whole day
List goes on, I'm just an uhealthy frick but working to fix it - 25kg down just 7 left until I am goal weight. Anyways probably not worth riskiing with roids right? I can see perfectly healthy 25 years old doing it but not me
keep making excuses for yourself. you'll get far in life that way for sure
>heart issues
>sterons
i would avoid sauna's if i were you
holy fricking kek what an image
lmao
No. I take roids myself and I think the risk of small to moderate doses is easily manageable in healthy young males, but with that health, you're playing with your life if you try them. You could maybe get away with a low dose of Test E or C (like < 250 mg a week), but anything that's really useful for building muscle would pose an extreme threat to your life. Don't do that. It's not worth dying over.
You should find out if you have low T, though, if that's the case, TRT prescribed by a doctor would actually be beneficial to your health.
At least post a physiqe that's not achievable without roids
Bro he’s TESTED!
lmao even the bottom part of his face mogs your average natty
I feel bad for you cuckold who are in sheer disbelief that this is not possible in 2 years Natty. Thats like 8 12-week programs. He could be bigger if he wanted to be less shredded in the same 2 years. Not only that, but the journey is enjoyable.
Woman-tier health abusers seethe.
Sacrificing 15 years of peak fitness for 3 years looking like a comic book villian
if you have the same bone structure that body is attainable without roids in literally 1-2 years.
Are you a man ?
yes i inject roid in my ass to obtain a body I could get naturally in a few years because i'm a lazy moron
>wanting it to be easy
Is op implying that he roided for that? Lmfao I started lifting looking like this
Damn that means you're probably jacked now. Care to post body?
you are a troony and will always be a troony
Post hairline
from dyel to dyel. congrats incel
The part with your balls stopping to work seems like a bit of a deal breaker.
the guy in your pic used steroids btw