>Renders the bench press obsolete
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That looks like a bench press to me. Do you mean barbell bench?
Nah, I was doing these before and I got way more muscle definition from doing bench presses.
It's still argue that bench is better because of how chest just seems to grow better under heavier loading and just getting that volume there in the first place. But db bench can work with equivalent volumes. It's just one of those weird kind of movments you can't load quite as much. It's better than an accessory and not as fatigueing as heavy compound. I can't speak for anyone but me but I always have the most trouble progressing in the awkward middle ground movments that require more control if I'm doing them exclusively. If I was going to limit myself to 6 sets for tricepts and chest in a workout it would be 3 flat barbell bench 3 incline db bench.
>chest just seems to grow better under heavier loading
My experience as well. Tried doing only DB press for a couple of months and lost size and strength. Barbell press is better.
I do both. Heavy bb press at lower rep ranges 1st thing after stretching. Db press later in the workout at lower weight higher rep range, focusing on stabilization, going super slow, and burning my shit out.
Why does everyone on this board argue about which exercise is better when you can and probably should just do both?
Idk I do both as well. But I'm guessing they're asking us to either rationalize or disprove some dumb thing they want to try. Which usually involves reducing their routine to 3 or 4 exercises rather than just reducing volume on some of their less productive lifts while maintaining the variety and utility of having several lifts. Also I see a lot of push for db only routines because I'm guessing people are getting too poor to go to the gym.
I'm not too poor because my college gym is free for students. The problem I have is that the gym is always packed to the brim and I spend 30+ minutes waiting for a rack to free up.
I'm contemplating just buying a bench, a set of spinlock dumbbells and enough plates to be able to load them up to 100lbs each for my apartment. You guys think I will make gains with a setup like that?
I love assisted facepulls too
Anon there are lots of alternatives for every exercise. You don't have to do any of the "big 3" if you don't want to.
You don't lift.
>muh incline bench
Grow up and do weighted calisthenics like an adult
what's wrong with incline bench?
nothing, he's moronic
I'm afraid my breasts are getting too big but I love benching too much I do it every session
Cool. But once you get bigger they're a pain in the ass. Using 150 lb dumbbells isn't easy.
>lmao, isn't that the point
...but really, please explain
Not him but as the weight goes up the balance/control demanded to strength becomes untenable. You'll eventually end up somewhere where you could rep out with a much heavier weight but you can't get in or out of that posistion without assistance or imperilling your shoulder just tyring to set it down. So you just wind up adding reps with a weight you can control which isn't optimal but whatever if that doesn't matter to you and you're just working with the equipment you got.
Guess the citrulline is working because that wouldn't have given me a rager a week ago.
My gyms dumbbells only go to 80. I need bench
Theres no way you can db bench 160kg
Take four and bind them together
nuetral grip is better than that grip. that grip uses too much front delt. if you use a nuetral grip and touch both ends of the dumbbell at the top and squeeze the chest for a second. its a better motion
Humor me for a minute. What if you mirrored the path of an RTO pushup?
Dbs start wide and linear and rotate out as the movment progresses until the bottoms of the dbs touch. So you get the cross chest stretch at the bottom of the rep and the tight chest compression at the top. I haven't tried yet but will at some point today.
Reverse grip with the bar is also a thing
Actually stimulates upper chest better than incline does
I think this is a great idea with dumbbells
Nah
I did these for a while and they were just ok, then i got a bar and started pressing 15000lb 3x/week vs about 4000 before. I love dumbbells but i kept giving myself little wrist injuries.
I do this but I wish I could just bench instead (no spotter and no power rack at my gym). Way harder to progress due to dumbells increasing in steps of 2kgs each, form is harder, getting set up is harder, etc...
Only real advantage it has is it's not perma occupied by teenagers like the bench.
Great way to frick up your shoulders when you go to set up with higher weights.
>only goes up to 50kg in my gym
Incline is a good accessory though
50 kgs each?
Yes obviously
That's the max at my gym as well, but the heaviest I've ever seen anyone go is 40.
I guess that’s why they don’t buy bigger dumbbells in most gyms 🙁
Going more than 100lb on dumbbell anything is fricking stupid even if you are pretty strong, you’re just asking for a shoulder injury. As well, if gyms regularly had dumbbells above 100lb injury rates would fricking skyrocket because dyel homosexuals would try to ego lift.
>don’t go past x weight for x exercise because x injury!
What a stupid dyel cope
>tfw i can only bench 2x10 pounds because the next dumbbell set available at my gym is 2x35 pounds is too heavy
feels bad being a stickbug, but the gym is free at least
Wtf Bro are you are an anorexic woman?
probably, only started working out this month after 15 years of sitting on my ass all day
Keep at it king, in a year you'll be using those 35 lbs dbs for warm ups
>only started working out this month after 15 years of sitting on my ass all day
are you saying you're 15 years old?
I can possibly help. Tell me how many reps you're averaging with those.
I do 3x15 fot this exercise, but I don't feel like i'm really pushing it, could probably do a lot more.
yeah guess that what i'll do. They do have 20 and 30 pounds (or at least i'm assuming they're pounds), but not as a set, only individual dumbbells. So maybe I should do other exercises.
That would be better 2x absolute failure 3 times a week. Once you're nearing 30-40 reps. Try the 35's again. Every time you you do a set write down the rep total total. So say you did 25 and 23 that's 48 for that session. Next session do 49 even if you have to add another set with just one rep. Just keep going like and you'll be to those 35 pretty quick. This scheme does not work well with heavier weights so don't try applying it there but it will get you out of the baby weights fairly quickly.
Thanks, I'll try this
Yeah I was wondering that too..
I mean if they only have that's your better off just doing callisthetics at home IMO.
Maybe do push up or something to build up to the 35's?
just do 400 reps, bro
benchpress is moroniced due to wrist position - that's not how human body works u imbecile bot
2 or 3 last videos - every grip in benchlike motion is neutral, that's how it should be dumbo, the wrist finally doesn't try to break because it's fricken straight, u're gonna go only as far as ur front delt goes though, with any pressing motion, unless u ride on joints and tendons but good luck with that lol
bench shouldn't be even emulated with dumbells u fricking imbecile bot
Imagine taking advice from a guy that is Giga dyel mode after like 15 years of strength training
>taking advice
nope bot, i'm in front of him, i've figuered it out by myself before he did, i'm that fricking smart bot
> Giga dyel mode after like 15 years of strength training
his single hamstring is bigger in muscle mass than entire muscle mass of most people xD u're playing extra full moron bot here
my gym only goes up to 100lb dumbells, im at 30 degrees incline 95x8, didnt think id start outgrowing 100s this soon
Light weight bab-ACK
What went wrong here? He was trying to press the dumbbells at the same initial unrack position as if he was pressing a barbell, wasn't he?
He sat down with the dbs out and he sat down too quickly. It gave the db too much momentum and he didn't let go. Those things look pretty light so he probably has some existing injury.
you should keep db's pinched close to your chest and start pressing after you lie still
Just do both?
With a PPL routine you can do both on separate days in the same week.
How do you set the weights down afterwards without wrecking yourself?
Bring em in, find the leg things with your feet and do a really hard sit-up. Or bring your elbows in and lower them slowly as long as you're not shoulder locked. The bottom of db should touch the floor before it gets uncomfortable then you just drop em.
yeet them
How do I build up the strength to go up to 30kgs incline DB press? My gym doesn't have 27.5 and I am stuck at 25kgx5 reps at most.
>movement: involves the arms moving relative to the upper body
>shoulders: no problemo
>homofornian: dude take your dick out of my mouth for a minute I have an idea, let's, like, lock the shoulders in place while doing the movement so we can lift more weight and become even bigger meatballs
>shoulders: but that kills me...
and so the bench press was born
Is worse for hypertrophy
>Renders weights obsolete
Kboges also lifts weights and eats a diet that costs more than your rent.
Got a peer reviewed source for him doing roid troon bench?
Apart from him owning a power rack bench and assortment of weights you can see in his garage? Nah they're just for decoration.
So no source, got it
His own videos.
looks pretty low even for floor press, data doesn't add up
There's a bench in the other corner I don't think he bothered to rack it after unloading it. He even posted a breakdown of his routine in one of his videos where he mentions lifting 2-3 days a week, calisthenics and rower every and usually walking 2 hours at university. He gives calisthenics advice because it's what people are intrested in and there's a lot of ways to do but never said it's all he does or has ever done. Calisthenics people are cultish and want to believe that it's 100% body weight.
>safe range of motion=doesn't frick up your shoulders
>focuses on triceps more than chest=more aesthetic body
>crushing db's together forces to use lighter weights and focusing on form=less risk of injury
Anyone else plan shoulders on seperate days because benching before makes shoulder press harder?
I just train chest before shoulders first push day and other way around second.
Just do what you think is best fy, I prefer dumbbell press because it gives me more comfort in my shoulders and is better for incline bench presses.