god I truly hate lifters who dont disclose theyre on roids right off the bat then try and and say their meme diet/routine/what the frick ever is what you should be doing.
I like it. Because it's more pitfalls to catch morons and vanity lifters. They'll do their every day calisthenics kettbell blah blah blah 100g of protein fight club mode thing and in 5 years they'll probably look the same just older. Everyone who had the humility to not put ego and vanity first or had the wisdom to rely on more tried and true approaches will be so far past them. Gullible people are free guinea pigs. The likelihood they'll ever find something that's outside conventional lifting that works is scant but hell we'll all benefit if they do and they're the ones taking all the risks so it's a win for everyone not involved in it.
Kek you missed the joke. He's a natty who died from overtraining and not eating and stimulant abuse. The one pic where he looks juicy with his arm there is just angle fraud. He may have survived if he injected testosterone because his hormones were totally crashed from no sleep/food.
tendons and ligaments heal and repair much slower than muscle. so rest days are important. as you progress to heavier weight and harder exercises you will eventually get to a stage where every few months you should be taking an entire week off to try and proactively fend off slowly building damage that can manifest randomly like tendonitis or tendonosis. if youre hardly moving any weight it isnt as important but you still need to take days off. lots of injuries in the gym arent actually things that happened in one session, but a part of the body was already weakened and you assumed it was at full strength and it gets pushed past its limit and now you have a problem and have to take months of to let it heal.
This happened to me.
I went to the gym everyday for a month and was careful not to work out the same muscle every 48 hours. But by the end the month I had terrible tennis elbow and horrible pain on my collar bone and shoulder joints
man once I took a involuntary 2 month away time due work and despite being scared shitless of loosing gains, I managed to add weight on my second lift after. first one was full of doms though. thats when I learnt to not go moron over this issue.
>lift 6x a week 3 years pre covid >quit completely during covid >1st day back after 1+ year >1.5 hour upper day >unable to move next 2 days due to severe DOMS and ligament pains >tooks 1.5 weeks to completely heal
kek i deserved it for being a moron
Your muscles get used to training and stop responding, unless you contantly increase volume or intensity. When you take 2 months off, your tendons, joints, ligaments and nervous system fully heal and are able to withstand way more force. On top of that, your muscles get resentivised to the training and respond much better.
Those are the resons for deloads and rest weeks.
If yiu are natural, you won't lose any muscles in those 2 weeks or even 2 months. You still can move to do cardio or to keep kuscles in tonus. Just no heavy lifting.
man once I took a involuntary 2 month away time due work and despite being scared shitless of loosing gains, I managed to add weight on my second lift after. first one was full of doms though. thats when I learnt to not go moron over this issue.
wtf if I take five days off I lose a month of lifting progress.
if I take three weeks off I lose three months of lifting progress.
Same. I assume people who maintain their gains are either genetically blessed or I'm a botched necromancy experiment that literally rots if I'm not performing lifting rituals to keep the body intact.
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you guys were never strong to begin with if you can take multi-week rests and feel no difference when you go back to lifting.
Same. I assume people who maintain their gains are either genetically blessed or I'm a botched necromancy experiment that literally rots if I'm not performing lifting rituals to keep the body intact.
You all are just volumetards. It's not muscles you are losing, just glycogene storage. If you are natty, just one training session will restore it back.
If you are a roitroony, you will lose a lot of "progress"
I'm natty and it takes a month for my body to recover taking a week off. I'm also at a point in my training where despite mediocre lifts for my bw I'm stalling extremely hard, and both times I did a cut I lost 90% of the strength (not just volume but 1rms) I've gained on the bulk. I'm pretty sure I'm just genetic excrement, so as soon as my body starts to slow down with age I'll Tren this dumpster fire into an early grave. Poetic justice.
Nah. There are better ways.
First of all, bulking and cutting is a meme for natties. Works only for roidtrannies who take different compounds.
Try doing HIT. It's less volume and easier on joints. Don't be moronic lile menzer. Follow dorian yates routine. You can train with a hugher frequency and do just upper/lower spli twice a week. 2 weeks of light training every 6 weeks.
Or just try not to rest, but training very liggtly to keep your muscles. Our body will get rid of muscles if not used, especially when cutting. Just don't damage them too much. That's all.
T. 82kg natty, who was doing a light body weight workout during half a year of lockdowns and didn't lose a single kg. Recovered strength in a single month of training.
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you guys were never strong to begin with if you can take multi-week rests and feel no difference when you go back to lifting.
Is that why pro athletes stop training 1-2 weeks before competition to peak? Again, all in your head schizo. Or you have hilariously bad genetics, are you Asian by any chance?
man once I took a involuntary 2 month away time due work and despite being scared shitless of loosing gains, I managed to add weight on my second lift after. first one was full of doms though. thats when I learnt to not go moron over this issue.
yeah took 3 weeks off too with shit diet and my lifts were the same
you guys were never strong to begin with if you can take multi-week rests and feel no difference when you go back to lifting.
>Anyone who says they don’t need rest days is just spouting made up bullshit for youtube clicks.
And then moronic IST suckers give him free advertising with these gay ass threads
Bro, he died from overexertion. He died because he didn't rest at all. He'd do moronic shit like take 3AM walks instead of sleeping to get his step count up. He'd do 1000 calorie HIIT workouts every morning in addition to more cardio later and then he'd lift every day. He was sub 10% bodyfat year round and was maintaining his weight on 5500-6000 a day from how active he was. Then he decided he was going to drop down to sub 5% bodyfat and maintain that and in his last videos he had the death face. That was the last straw and his heart gave out from all the stress he put on his body.
He died like a year ago. Are you fricking remedial?
unlike you weirdos I dont know the entire life story of every e-celeb nobody
And just because he croaked doesnt mean his wife or somebody isnt still getting ad revenue from his channel
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>unlike you weirdos I dont know the entire life story of every e-celeb nobody
I didn't know the life of this guy or even knew who he was, hence why I asked for his youtube channel.
5 months ago
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>wife or somebody isnt still getting ad revenue from his channel
He was an incel
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so gymmaxxing doesn't work? 🙁
5 months ago
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You don't know the life of anybody because you don't browse anywhere outside one or two threads in this shithole lol
It is actually kind of cute to see guys like you acting all high and mighty for being sheltered and clueless about the outside
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>you are sheltered an clueless of the outside world because you dont spend enough time on the internet watching e-celeb nobodys
holy shit is this real life?
Bro, he died from overexertion. He died because he didn't rest at all. He'd do moronic shit like take 3AM walks instead of sleeping to get his step count up. He'd do 1000 calorie HIIT workouts every morning in addition to more cardio later and then he'd lift every day. He was sub 10% bodyfat year round and was maintaining his weight on 5500-6000 a day from how active he was. Then he decided he was going to drop down to sub 5% bodyfat and maintain that and in his last videos he had the death face. That was the last straw and his heart gave out from all the stress he put on his body.
All that just to still look like a hideous fricking rat. Christ almighty, definitely some deep rooted BDD in his case probably as a direct result from bullying related to his physical appearance. I know I'm right. Incel lives matter 🙁
That’s insanely moronic of him. 5% bf is when your body is survival mode and has no excess reserves to pull from. You lose focus, energy, libido, etc cause any fuel your body has goes towards making sure you stay alive, that’s it. Maintaining 5% is just willfully torturing yourself, and not in the good way like you pushed yourself extra hard on a workout. Dude took his body dysmorphia to an extreme level.
I’ve been experimenting doing 1-2 sets of various exercises to failure once or twice daily, I’m about a week in now and sore as frick will report in with gains made or when I hurt myself
I am an ex gymnast. Back in the 90s we trained about 25 hours per week. We just didn't train on Sundays and that is if we didn't have an event or something. But we didn't really sit on our ass on Sundays either, we'd go cycle or play soccer etc. There was no notion of rest. Also there was no weightlifting at all, but our club had other sports and I do remember them lifting now and then (water polo, basketball). Maybe things have changed now I dunno
Yeah if you don’t train very hard then you don’t need rest days. But if you’re actually lifting until failure and getting DOMS the next day, you’re growing just as fast as the guy who works less hard but has to do it everyday.
There was a great study that proved this: they had 1 group workout for 1 year without any breaks, while the other group would take a full week off once a month.
Both groups grew the exact same amount, while only the group which took breaks felt any DOMS.
So you can quite literally grow just as much with less work.
>Not resting on the Lords day
He will get roid injections in his anus in hell. He may enjoy it.
He dead already dude.
no rest for the wicked
god I truly hate lifters who dont disclose theyre on roids right off the bat then try and and say their meme diet/routine/what the frick ever is what you should be doing.
>god I truly hate lifters who dont disclose theyre on roids right off the bat
Not necessary because you can easily see if they're juicing or not.
Unless you're a zoomer I guess lol.
I like it. Because it's more pitfalls to catch morons and vanity lifters. They'll do their every day calisthenics kettbell blah blah blah 100g of protein fight club mode thing and in 5 years they'll probably look the same just older. Everyone who had the humility to not put ego and vanity first or had the wisdom to rely on more tried and true approaches will be so far past them. Gullible people are free guinea pigs. The likelihood they'll ever find something that's outside conventional lifting that works is scant but hell we'll all benefit if they do and they're the ones taking all the risks so it's a win for everyone not involved in it.
>shilled by fitness gurus
>heres another one roidtroony as a counterpoint
hmm.
Kek you missed the joke. He's a natty who died from overtraining and not eating and stimulant abuse. The one pic where he looks juicy with his arm there is just angle fraud. He may have survived if he injected testosterone because his hormones were totally crashed from no sleep/food.
>4 years no rest day
why do IST morons believe every stupid bullshit thing they see on the internet and then make a thread about it here?
Because that's the zoomer way.
Because this is not a site for intelligent people
tendons and ligaments heal and repair much slower than muscle. so rest days are important. as you progress to heavier weight and harder exercises you will eventually get to a stage where every few months you should be taking an entire week off to try and proactively fend off slowly building damage that can manifest randomly like tendonitis or tendonosis. if youre hardly moving any weight it isnt as important but you still need to take days off. lots of injuries in the gym arent actually things that happened in one session, but a part of the body was already weakened and you assumed it was at full strength and it gets pushed past its limit and now you have a problem and have to take months of to let it heal.
This happened to me.
I went to the gym everyday for a month and was careful not to work out the same muscle every 48 hours. But by the end the month I had terrible tennis elbow and horrible pain on my collar bone and shoulder joints
I recently took 3 weeks off due to laziness and when I got back into the gym today, my muscles were stronger than ever.
Restbros, we won.
man once I took a involuntary 2 month away time due work and despite being scared shitless of loosing gains, I managed to add weight on my second lift after. first one was full of doms though. thats when I learnt to not go moron over this issue.
>lift 6x a week 3 years pre covid
>quit completely during covid
>1st day back after 1+ year
>1.5 hour upper day
>unable to move next 2 days due to severe DOMS and ligament pains
>tooks 1.5 weeks to completely heal
kek i deserved it for being a moron
Your muscles get used to training and stop responding, unless you contantly increase volume or intensity. When you take 2 months off, your tendons, joints, ligaments and nervous system fully heal and are able to withstand way more force. On top of that, your muscles get resentivised to the training and respond much better.
Those are the resons for deloads and rest weeks.
If yiu are natural, you won't lose any muscles in those 2 weeks or even 2 months. You still can move to do cardio or to keep kuscles in tonus. Just no heavy lifting.
Rest days are important if you are training hard. If you aren't training hard, you don't need as much rest.
took a week off due to a cracked rib, upper body significantly stronger when I started lifting again
wtf if I take five days off I lose a month of lifting progress.
if I take three weeks off I lose three months of lifting progress.
How the hell can you yoyo so hard? Is it a mental thing at that point?
Same. I assume people who maintain their gains are either genetically blessed or I'm a botched necromancy experiment that literally rots if I'm not performing lifting rituals to keep the body intact.
You all are just volumetards. It's not muscles you are losing, just glycogene storage. If you are natty, just one training session will restore it back.
If you are a roitroony, you will lose a lot of "progress"
I'm natty and it takes a month for my body to recover taking a week off. I'm also at a point in my training where despite mediocre lifts for my bw I'm stalling extremely hard, and both times I did a cut I lost 90% of the strength (not just volume but 1rms) I've gained on the bulk. I'm pretty sure I'm just genetic excrement, so as soon as my body starts to slow down with age I'll Tren this dumpster fire into an early grave. Poetic justice.
Nah. There are better ways.
First of all, bulking and cutting is a meme for natties. Works only for roidtrannies who take different compounds.
Try doing HIT. It's less volume and easier on joints. Don't be moronic lile menzer. Follow dorian yates routine. You can train with a hugher frequency and do just upper/lower spli twice a week. 2 weeks of light training every 6 weeks.
Or just try not to rest, but training very liggtly to keep your muscles. Our body will get rid of muscles if not used, especially when cutting. Just don't damage them too much. That's all.
T. 82kg natty, who was doing a light body weight workout during half a year of lockdowns and didn't lose a single kg. Recovered strength in a single month of training.
Wrong, it's all in your head.
Is that why pro athletes stop training 1-2 weeks before competition to peak? Again, all in your head schizo. Or you have hilariously bad genetics, are you Asian by any chance?
>Is that why pro athletes stop training 1-2 weeks before competition to peak?
lol. Lmao even.
yeah took 3 weeks off too with shit diet and my lifts were the same
you guys were never strong to begin with if you can take multi-week rests and feel no difference when you go back to lifting.
Anyone who says they don’t need rest days (and are natty) just aren’t lifting hard enough. I’m still sore from chest day on Saturday
>Anyone who says they don’t need rest days is just spouting made up bullshit for youtube clicks.
And then moronic IST suckers give him free advertising with these gay ass threads
YDEL.
But the guy in pic died of heart failure from not resting
^^^this
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You should do rest weeks
One week workout. Next week rest
Repeat until death
Imagine roiding and lifting for 1461 days in a row only to end up looking like *that*
Rest days would have helped him
Yeah dude, that progress is totally due to not resting and not because of all the roids
Bro, he died from overexertion. He died because he didn't rest at all. He'd do moronic shit like take 3AM walks instead of sleeping to get his step count up. He'd do 1000 calorie HIIT workouts every morning in addition to more cardio later and then he'd lift every day. He was sub 10% bodyfat year round and was maintaining his weight on 5500-6000 a day from how active he was. Then he decided he was going to drop down to sub 5% bodyfat and maintain that and in his last videos he had the death face. That was the last straw and his heart gave out from all the stress he put on his body.
link to his channel?
https://youtube.com/@scottmurray5752?si=OT06jIJpQMTIr7sJ
buy an ad Black person
He’s fricking dead lol
Who's collecting the adsense checks, hm?
I don’t fricking know Black person, there probably aren’t any cuz he’s dead and nobody uploads the channel
He died like a year ago. Are you fricking remedial?
learn to read the thread dumbass
unlike you weirdos I dont know the entire life story of every e-celeb nobody
And just because he croaked doesnt mean his wife or somebody isnt still getting ad revenue from his channel
>unlike you weirdos I dont know the entire life story of every e-celeb nobody
I didn't know the life of this guy or even knew who he was, hence why I asked for his youtube channel.
>wife or somebody isnt still getting ad revenue from his channel
He was an incel
so gymmaxxing doesn't work? 🙁
You don't know the life of anybody because you don't browse anywhere outside one or two threads in this shithole lol
It is actually kind of cute to see guys like you acting all high and mighty for being sheltered and clueless about the outside
>you are sheltered an clueless of the outside world because you dont spend enough time on the internet watching e-celeb nobodys
holy shit is this real life?
i dont think that would really help his situation
All that just to still look like a hideous fricking rat. Christ almighty, definitely some deep rooted BDD in his case probably as a direct result from bullying related to his physical appearance. I know I'm right. Incel lives matter 🙁
soon the name will be changed from scott murray to sam sulek
what the hell is that guy's diet, there's no real food whatsoever just slop
I’m watching his last video and he does look rough. Literally talking about an extreme cutting diet. weird since I’m thinking of cutting too
That’s insanely moronic of him. 5% bf is when your body is survival mode and has no excess reserves to pull from. You lose focus, energy, libido, etc cause any fuel your body has goes towards making sure you stay alive, that’s it. Maintaining 5% is just willfully torturing yourself, and not in the good way like you pushed yourself extra hard on a workout. Dude took his body dysmorphia to an extreme level.
Bro had the work ethic to be a pro bodybuilder but needed the steroids and sleep.
That guy died of a heart attack because he wouldn’t rest
I’ve been experimenting doing 1-2 sets of various exercises to failure once or twice daily, I’m about a week in now and sore as frick will report in with gains made or when I hurt myself
I am an ex gymnast. Back in the 90s we trained about 25 hours per week. We just didn't train on Sundays and that is if we didn't have an event or something. But we didn't really sit on our ass on Sundays either, we'd go cycle or play soccer etc. There was no notion of rest. Also there was no weightlifting at all, but our club had other sports and I do remember them lifting now and then (water polo, basketball). Maybe things have changed now I dunno
You can rest once you're jacked bro trust
Yeah if you don’t train very hard then you don’t need rest days. But if you’re actually lifting until failure and getting DOMS the next day, you’re growing just as fast as the guy who works less hard but has to do it everyday.
There was a great study that proved this: they had 1 group workout for 1 year without any breaks, while the other group would take a full week off once a month.
Both groups grew the exact same amount, while only the group which took breaks felt any DOMS.
So you can quite literally grow just as much with less work.
it's a good thing we trust the word of literally who, as he has zero reason for lying to us
he died because nattys shouldnt try to be lean or muscular and they def shouldnt try to be both
leave the good stuff to the roiders