Runners are the room-temp IQ people of the fitness community.
Running has the highest ratio of body wear to actual benefits of any exercise resulting in an overall net-negative for fitness. Not to mention that elevated breathing outdoors in cities is equivelant to smoking many cigarettes.
People run because they think that's what it takes to be healthy, but if they were to do any actual thinking for themselves they would realize that running is actually moronic and they're moronic for doing it. Do literally anything else. Doing nothing would be far better than running.
Seriously, every time I pass by a runner I want to ask them where their carers are because they're obviously mentally disabled and should be under supervision 100% of the time.
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Humans aren’t meant to ROON.
We were, it's just that using it as your exclusive exercise is moronic
Cope fatty
Not fat, just not braindead
enjoy having the knees of a 80 year old man when you're 35.
Cope, you fatfrick
Because of this I'm gonna go on a quick run. Thank you for reminding me OP.
I lift Monday to Friday and roon weekends.
Powerfatter cope. The average rooner doesnt run ultra marathons. Running is one of the healthiest forms of exercises
>Running is one of the healthiest forms of exercises
find me literally any piece of evidence supporting this. It ranks dead last for aerobic exercises in almost every study.
post studies gay
no
If your body's greatest ability is running then dyel? I swim, bike, or stair machine for my cardio. All far better than running in terms of health benefits and far less impactful on my body.
>Post studies
>No
Based
op is an absolute king. frick rooners
moron
Ultramarathon running is arguably the only kind of running that can be justified, as it's both interesting enough as a hobby to justify itself and the slower paces seem to really put a limit on the downsides. Marathon runners are spooky wrecks, while ultramarathoners seem to turn out pretty well.
You have no idea what you're talking about, ultra runners get injured more than any other group because they push past form breakdown and have to ignore pain. Running over 50k hurts no matter how well you train for it.
>injured
Okay, but do they die in their 50's from heart failure in an emaciated body that looked like a corpse long before they croaked like marathoners do?
>the depth of competition isn't as much
>ultramarathoning self-selects
But isn't "the hobby is limited to people who affirmatively say 'I want to run hundreds of miles' largely for its own sake, weeding out scores of casuals and 'type-A' tryhards who just want to score dick-measuring points in popular contests" a legitimate item for the Pro column? Like I said, at least half of my idea here is that the sport is just cooler than its alternatives.
>Like marathon runners do
>Citation needed
Tbh, part of that is the depth of competition isn't as much in an ultramarathon. If there was an olympic ultramarathon event, people would push way harder and have a lot more injuries. Also, ultramarathoning self selects. There are a lot of sedentary people who make it a goal to do an marathon, whereas ultramarathoners tend to have better mileage bases built.
I'm not running that much myself, but imagine the level of cope some anons are on just to not move their body the way it evolved to be moved.
>there are fitness enthusiasts that intentionally undermine their bodies greatest ability
ngmi
Imagine being able to travel vast distances with just your body alone.
OP is NGMI
What other form of cardio is as convenient tl as running?
> Swimming, need to travel out to a pool, pay a fee, get changed, shower afterwards. Overall you're losing at least 1 hour.
> Cycling, solid option but if you live in a city you need to stay on roads and deal with butthole drivers who despise you. Out in the country it can be nice, but you need to have a longer journey planned.
> Rowing machine, also solid but they're expensive so if you want to do this you'll need to go to the gym every time. Probably my favorite from the three.
Is there any alternative cardio workout you can do in ~1 hour?
#1 row erg/ski erg
#2 heavy bag boxing/kickboxing/striking
#3 free aerobics workouts on youtube
#1 Love both of these, but you need to go to the gym to do just cardio? I've never done that.
#2 This one is really good.
#3 Just a little too queer for me, but thanks for the suggestion.
i own the machines. they arent really that expensive in the grand scheme of things and the value that you get out of them is way more than the 1000 smacks they cost new.
youtube aerobics is gay but low key good exercise and truly an amazing active recovery 'rest day' work out once you work up the courage to take the plunge.
heavy bag destroyed my elbows, don't over do it.
Jumprope
Not OP but
>burpees
>circuit training with light bodyweight exercises
>jumping rope
>heavybag (if you have one)
Heavybag is the best for me, but how is jump rope any better for knees compared to running.
Do you not know how to run or something? Literally bounce on the balls of your feet and stop heel striking. Add some sled exercises and yoga wah lah good knees
running is the best way to cure social awkwardness. i dont think there has ever been a virgin who runs 10ks.
I run 50km a week and I'm a virgin
youre just saving yourself for the right person.
That's what I tell myself 🙁
that's because you run exactly 7.14km per day. run a full 10km in one session and you will be instantly laid
26yo khhv reporting in. Training for a half now.
Can confirm. I ran 50 mi/week at training peak (10/10/10/20 for marathon training) and I frick.
at what weekly mileage can you reliably expect to lose your virginity? asking for a friend
I met my first gf when I finished C25k (roughly 10 mi/week). It was a spoiled SJW art hoe and a lot of headache. Met a better one when I did 30 mi/week, but the circumstances weren't right, so we had to part ways.
Met my current gf at peak marathon training (50 mi/week) and really happy with her.
Non-meme answer is that it depends not on your mileage but on your dedication to a specific goal. That can be a marathon or a sub-20 5 k or whatever.
Working towards being the best possible you in a specific field is something women can smell from miles away, don't ask me how. Do that and you increase your chances drastically. Also worth pointing out that finding the right girl is simply a numbers game. I have no idea why nobody ever mentions this, maybe because it's just an inconvenient truth and everyone wants to virtue signal. You likely won't find your dream gf on the first try and will inevitably face some let-downs. It sounds cliché, but keep putting yourself out there and you'll fuk eventually. Godspeed, bro.
can confirm, i'm the guy he fricks
i ran 25kmph still virgin.
t. overweight behemoth
Feels good man. You should try it.
I could probably run a marathon without training. Running is so goddamn dumb that it blows my mind people "train" to run a marathon. Just keep running lmao, it's not hard in the slightest.
İ swear, you're a dumbass
>I could probably run a marathon without training.
That's a recipe to permanently destroy your knees and never walk or run again.
Can confirm. Ran 5km for my first time after college (was living sedentary life and lifted only for a year) and couldn't walk for 2 weeks. That's how long my legs hurt. Wanted to prove to myself that I can run 5km without stopping (always stopped in highschool, was chubby)
But was that your knee joints or muscles? Slow-twitch fibers have longer DOMS in my experience, but this thread is about permanent damage.
You’re right op, when you’re 250lbs of fat it is dangerous to run. Better stay off those treadmills huh buddy?
>Not to mention that elevated breathing outdoors in cities is equivelant to smoking many cigarettes.
This is one of the reasons I stopped cycling when I lived in London. Frick that shit.
rooning is fun.especially like outside in one of those running parks
>evolves for millions of years to be anatomically very efficient at running
>thinks running is bad for his body
Can’t make this shit up.
The israelites tricked you with their ((science))
Fatty cope.
Unless you're an overweight, overstriding, heelstriking moron running isn't going to damage your knees.
Cycling is much more time consuming than running to get the same training stimulus. Swimming requires specialized infrastructure. Imagine going to the gym to pretend to climb stairs?
Running is fantastic, and if you don't enjoy it it's because you're out of shape. Sorry about your weak lungs and heart anon.
>get the same training stimulus
unless you go full lycra autism on a highway you're not getting the same training stimulus on a bike
I'm out of shape and I still enjoy it.
When I was a fatty running was hell, it hurt every joint in my being, I had to stop because of shin splints.
Then I lost the weight and one day I decided to try running again. I wish I could share the feeling I got. Still felt pretty bad on pavement. Then I tried minimalist shoes that force you to forefoot run and the pavement started feeling as good as any other flooring. Now I run fully barefoot, slowly any pain I've ever had disappeared and it's really enjoyable to feel the different textures you run through.
That being said I run once a week just for the calories and for the fun of it. I hike more than I run, but it takes more time.
I guess what I wanted to say is that running can be safe if you aren't an autist minmaxer about fitness. Just do what you enjoy and stop bringing your bros down.
This. Running felt like shit for months when I first started. Now I run 3-7 miles 5x/week for the last few years and don’t even need to open my mouth to breathe running. Like I literally just zone out and chill.
These threads are made by people without the willpower to actually get into shape. Humans are supposed to run. If you can’t run pretty much indefinitely, you are completely failing at what a human is supposed to be. It’s like being a fish that can’t swim.
You all keep talking like running is hard. It's not. I ran sub 6 minute miles all through high school and stopped running because I realized it was gay, tbh.
I could probably easily run a sub 6 right now if I wanted because running is literally the easiest thing in the world and only idiots think it's hard.
I know you don’t run because you think a mile counts as running. That’s a sprint. Middle schoolers run sub-6 miles.
That was just an example. You're right I don't run though because it's for braindead rooners. I could easily run and probably outrun most rooners in this thread, but I choose not to because there are far more effective forms of cardio, which I do.
>I could easily run and probably outrun most rooners in this thread, but I choose not to
I could also outlift you but choose not to
Doubt. pic related, the average rooner's body. I know dyel girls that have better physiques than the average runner
And I doubt that you can outrun me, fatty. I bet you're one of those people that consider biking cardio.
I swim, row, stair machine as my main forms of cardio. I guarantee you that despite how often you run, or how far, your quality of cardio is bottom barrel compared to mine.
You would get absolutely obliterated, rooner.
Post 10k time or shut up. Stairmaster only counts as cardio if you're over 55.
Why is it that people in this board think you either run or lift with nothing in between?
The overwhelming majority of people who run use it as their only form of exercise and therefore look like malnourished africans
>citation needed
That's only for the marathon runners. Have you actually go around people running? There's a lot of variety, if anything in my experience regular runners look either fit or average
> in my experience regular runners look either fit or average
They look average. Let's just cut the shit. I used to run before I started to lift 5 years ago. All these people looked slim, some skinny fat, no upper body, half might be able to press 70lbs if their lift depended on it. But yeah, we're the ones coping.
Ben True is quite a badass (with a bit of an autist vibe). There are some great distance runners with non-dyel physique, e.g. Chris Solinsky.
>You can actually run?
>Wait no, that's not REAL running
Is it necessary to buy a pair of dedicated running sneakers? Wanna start running but don't know if this investment is necessary to avoid knee pain and Achilles tendinitis
I picked up some runners for 15$ and another another for 30$ respectively at Costco. You don't have to buy brooks, I am using fila and adidas right now. Brooks actually gave me shin splints. Rotating shoes is a good idea to prevent injury, I'd you're just getting into it remember to take every 3 week off for the first 4 months or so to prevent stress injuries and runners knee while your bones and muscles catch up. After about 6 months you can just run really fast for however long you want.
Anyone who gets fat for their sport is the dumbest kind of "athlete"
Not even for money would I ruin my body
Also any sport done to the extreme is unhealthy
Any professional athlete snaps his shit at least at some point in his career
Post your heart rate.
resting heart rate is around 60.
I love rooning. Nothing better than beating your 5k/10k PB. Better than sex. I'm going to roon right now
bros how do I start rooning if I have crippling social anxiety? I don't even live in the city and I still get extremely self conscious if I run on a dirt road with nobody around, just the thought of a car passing by or god forbid I see another person keeps me from going outside
hike
wear horse blinders and earplugs so you can't see or hear anyone else
By realizing nobody cares about you.
No seriously, I mean that.
Think about how many people you pass by everyday. A dozen? Fifty? A hundred even? Of all of those, have you ever thoight about anyone for longer than five seconds after passing them by? Chances are no. So why would it be difderent for them?
>crippling social anxiety
No such thing, you're just vain as frick.
Focus on rooning. Every time when your brain drifts off to any anxious, self conscious thoughts bring your focus back to rooning. Don't judge your thoughts/brain's choice of focus. Just bring it back to rooning. This way you condition your brain not to give a frick about anything else but your personal choice of focus. The anxiety will lessen with time and vanish completely at some point.
There's a lakeside track in my city that runs about 5km. It takes some 30 minutes to run it
It makes me feel good and it's filled with cuties :^)
>it's filled with cuties
I would bet money you've never interacted with said cuties.
You're right, my gf wouldn't like that
Strange how it's always the powershitters posting entire cope threads about runners. It's never the other way around.
Really activates my almonds.
I'm not even a powerlifter, moron. I just do cardio that's actually beneficial and doesn't destroy my joints and lungs from breathing polluted air.
It's strange how defensive rooners get when they get told how moronic their exercise is
You get defensive just from us existing.
>I just do cardio that's actually beneficial and doesn't destroy my joints and lungs
Let me guess, rolling downhill to the next McDonald's?
>You get defensive just from us existing
This is male feminist language for "please accept me, goys."
The best thing about running is that it makes fatties seethe so hard. Lifting weights is easy for a fatass like you, but running - the most natural of human activities - is a struggle, so you pussy out.
>running... is a struggle
lmao, no it's not, this is complete rooner cope. You're doing something so deeply ingrained in our dna it's the literal opposite of hard. I bet you think breathing is hard too lmao
Running is 100% mental, I can decide to just keep running. It's literally the easiest cardio ever. But keep telling yourself it's hard so you feel accomplished.
>I can decide to just keep running.
Yet you don't. Why? Oh right, because you're a fat frick and your heart can't handle it lmao.
>Yet you don't. Why?
As I've explained itt, running is a moronic form of exercise, can you not read?
Cope.
Rowing is the masterrace.
>running is le bad.. because it just is okay!??
Happy little reminder that OP has yet to post body
>inb4 "y-you first"
Not my cope thread.
no, quit coping rooner
>Post body
>"no"
I rest my case, confirmed fatty.
> Running has the highest ratio of body wear to actual benefits
lose weight fatso
ITT: Fatties
Sorry fatty, can’t cope you way out of 25% bf
Why is a rooner's only cope to call people fat? I'm at 12% and it makes rooners seethe so hard.
One of my friends runs all the time, I told her running is not hard at all and she invited me on a run because she's highly competitive and I was easily able to not only keep up, but outpace her. When we finished with the run I was barely phased because I do actual cardio, not meme roons.
Because you're fat. Post body
Post your body 12%
Here's a body, better carbo load before your big roon, rooner gays.
>Not posting body
Like pottery, fatass
I'll post body when rooners can post a single shred of evidence that shows running is even remotely good for you compared to literally any other form of cardio. Until then, keep coping and blowing out your knees before your 40
I agree, as for running, only HIIT has some value for a lifter. Anything longer than 10 minutes a day 1 hour a week and it is a disaster.
yep. HIIT is based and I usually start up that in the summer time when I can go out and do it in the park.
I don't skip leg day and do other forms of actual cardio. I had no problem running 5k with
my friend. Doing a marathon would be a walk in the park compared to my actual cardio
>I kept up with a woman for 5k, so I would definitely have no problem running 8 times that distance because I use a stairmaster
Delusional. Doesn't count unless you do it.
This. The Black person is clearly delusional
>I'll post body when
We both know you won't, there's no evidence running is bad for your knees btw. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/art.22464
>”yeah I’m fit because I can out run a woman”
Average male run times are faster than elite women. It’s like saying you deadlift more than your sister.
Sorry, I don't have any male friends that run because none of my male friends are beta rooners
Fatass
Pretty sure you don't have any male friends at all.
Cope, rooners are the biggest beta cucks on planet earth. enjoy your inceldom as you run your 20th mile for the week, it's such a hard thing to do!
You fat moron bastard, go cope somewhere else
Don't care
Didn't read
Plus you're fat
If you're
>Sub 150lbs and can't run a <5:00 mile
>150 - 200lbs and can't run a <6:00 mile
>200lbs+ and can't run a <7:00 mile
You are neither healthy nor fit.
I will expand this
If you can't run
>Sub-20:00 5 k
>Sub-40:00 10 k
>Sub-1:30 half-marathon
>Sub-3:30 marathon
You are neither healthy nor fit
I'm a walk-chad myself. I agree running is tryhard cringe.
Yeah we know you don't like trying hard
Aaaah I’m gonna shit so much power!!1
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Is there a trick to getting your heart rate going faster? I get that "last rep" feeling after the first half mile, check and I'm barely 110bpm. Then it starts getting easier.
Run faster? Some of the shit y’all ask is just mind boggling.
Sprinting is based. Running slower than your max speed is cucked. Simple as
rooners itt:
>uhh COPE!! Muh fa- fatties! YOU'RE FAT!
I've never met a more insecure group of gays other than trannies. Holy shit. Running is so fricking cringe I'm going to ensure I'm either always sprinting or walking, if I ever catch myself running I'll asked to be put out of my misery.
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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/375907212/
lol
trannies in mad cope mode
I would say boxing is worse in terms of wear-and-tear compared to actual benefits. People don't realize how fragile their hand bones really are, even with gloves on. Head trauma is also way more prevalent than people think, not to mention all kinds of other self-inflicted injuries.
It can be fun to spar, and obviously there are ways to prevent injuries, but they're never 100% preventable and can be far worse than just worn out knees which are inevitable the older you get anyway.
Movies really glorified the boxing and fist-fighting, and it's funny because it's actually the worst way to fight in terms of damage to yourself. Our ancestors invented clubs, and spears, for a reason.
It’s kickboxing and bjj for me, and I train to be ready to protect myself and what’s mine.
They're being contrary and don't want to admit swim and cycling chads are right.
Rooners can't roon from the truth forever, (because swim and cycle chads will never run out of steam with their superior cardio exercises)