Ok moron frick Black person. You figured it out. Theyre legal, no side effects and liver safe. This is why every pro bodybuilder chooses to take SARMs. OH WAIT LMAO THEY DONT. post body then take a lethal dose of your antidepressants you fricking wienerwipe.
SARMS won't get you huge but they'll help your lifting along. They aren't as effective as roids but the trade off seems to be fewer sides
SARMs are only effective when combined with Test base, otherwise you're fricking up your body for no benefit, and if you're going to pin Test, then there's better options for AAS that go with Test than SARMs
>otherwise you're fricking up your body for no benefit
SARMS work without test
4 months ago
Anonymous
>SARMS work without test
They also suppress your natural testosterone production, so when you come off a SARM cycle you will be a low T beta b***h for a long while and lose all your gains you've made on SARMs while in constant catabolic state.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Can't you just do a PCT?
>SARMS help with little to no sides
Yesh thats why all pro bodybuilders take them. OH WAIT THEY DONT
Pro bodybuilders don't care about sides
4 months ago
Anonymous
and test supresses your natural testosterone production infinitely more, so unless you want to turn into a HRT troony and be on test for life, they're still a better choice for most people. SARMs don't even require PCT in many cases and when they do, it's much shorter and with much lower doses. people decide to say goodbye to their balls and "blast & cruise" because they lose almost everything after test cycles or cycles with a test base
4 months ago
Anonymous
not what I was implying with test and you don't know what you're talking about
4 months ago
Anonymous
>SARMS help with little to no sides
Yesh thats why all pro bodybuilders take them. OH WAIT THEY DONT
imagine coping with turning into a troony, dependent on constant HRT injections for life, by coming up with ridiculous strawmans. no one is scared of injections, but no one sane would willingly turn his literal manhood into a pharma subscription service and add another chore, required to avoid turning into a enuch. if you really want to "pin" something, take HCG injections and enclo. unless you're a b***h will barely functioning balls, your natural test will be high enough to give you androgenic sides and stopping will not turn you into a woman, the increased test will last for weeks after stopping. as for muscle, test is like the worst substance to build muscle anyway, as far as the anabolic to androgenic ratio is concerned
SARMs are only effective when combined with Test base, otherwise you're fricking up your body for no benefit, and if you're going to pin Test, then there's better options for AAS that go with Test than SARMs
I have only ever done 3 cycles in my life, and each of those cycles was LGD. Here is the breakdown as close as I can remember cause it's been 5 years
First cycle was 8 weeks. It was good, but I felt it took a month for it to kick in, and then I only had a month of gains before stopping. Kept hold of most of the small gains I made.
1 month nolva for pct
Second was 12 weeks. I did it while bulking and I watched my strength and weight on the scale increase at a good rate. Pumps felt amazing. People made a lot of comments about my size.
1 month clomid for pct. Kept about half the gains and strength dropped a tiny bit
Third was 12 weeks during a cut. The fat melted off me pretty quick and don't think I lost any muscle. My muscles felt super hard. Forearm pumps were insane but lower back pumps were painful.
2 weeks clomid (remaining stock from the 2nd cycle) and 4 weeks on some shady arimistane based pct supplement. I noticed no suppression sides doing this.
Here is a pic towards the end of the cut, sorry for blurriness
Do I recommend them? I dunno, you're an adult, make up your own mind. I personally wont do them again. If you decide to then research thoroughly beforehand
pointless, you will get slight gains and it will vanish as soon as you stop, just like steroids, you really want to take hormone altering research chemicals so that you could be a bit more muscular for a few months?
Does anyone know how long he was off them for and if he stopped working out? I understand him losing the lean bodymass from not pinning, but he looks like he just stopped exercising for months as well.
Tried 6 weeks rad140+mk677, currently on about week 3 of lgd+yk11+cardarine. Tried a couple weeks ostarine but decided to save it for a cut. Had very good mileage from the first stack, gave me a lot of drive and energy, lifts went up and I was hitting the gym basically every day without fatigue or need for recovery, might have made me more extraverted, most likely made me more attractive overall because I started getting a lot of complements from strangers. The lgd stack I'm on currently has been underwhelming performance-wise but I think I notice the energy from cardarine on a daily basis at work at least. Mightve just tanked my test from the first 6 weeks and am getting diminishing results, but Im also israeliteing myself out of sleep because of weird work hours which might be the culprit. Probably going to do the rad+mk cycle on and off for the foreseeable future, might keep the cardarine, will try sr9009 with ostarine for a cut sometime soon. Going to try clomiphene for this cycle pct. No noticeable sides as of yet.
I ran LGD and Ostarine for 6 months
Lots of back acne, pretty bad anxiety, minimal gains other than that I was able to add 10 lbs to most lifts by the end
Only chronic issue it caused is I can’t hold my piss anymore. I mean it’s always just leaking out of me like a broken faucet
I like sarms. doing sarms without a test base is stupid imo, so little zoom zooms shouldn't touch them. the angry roidbros in this thread who've clearly never done them should honestly just stop talking. what do you think you're contributing to the conversation by repeating shit you heard from derek? stop talking.
I like rad140 when I'm cutting. injectable lgd is one of the best muscle builders that exists imo.
the big problem with sarms is that they're selective. a lot of the benefits of hormonal steroids is the spillover. there's an article (I think t-nation, can't find it) from a decade ago that talks about this. like how tren is actually a shit muscle builder, but it's so god damn potent at annihilating cortisol that even when you're walking around on 2 hours of sleep in a constant paranoid rage, you just never go catabolic. sarms don't do any of that because they're selective. and it turns out that agonizing the androgen receptor is actually not the most important part of getting big.
they were also very over-sold a few years ago. "all the benefits of steroids and none of the drawbacks!" neither of those turned out to be true, but morons saying they shut you down harder than test or they annihilate your liver are just wrong. compare the liver value elevations to prohormones or anadrol and then get back to me.
tldr: sarms have their place, but don't touch them unless you're already pinning test
a big issue is that they are extremely strong mg for mg, but have massively diminishing returns. so they do crazy things to the liver when people take absurdly large doses and don't realize it.
you're a moron. one of the main advantages of sarms is how little supressive they are and how quick and easy PCTs are and you're suggesting to add test, which is extremely supressive at basically any dose (and a shit muscle builder compared with basically anything, considering the dose and androgenic sides) and makes evey PCT living hell that leads to most of the gains being lost.
all that's needed is to add enclo a bit earlier than after the cycle, about 6 weeks in, when the potential supression usually starts, at least in my case
doing 10mg ostarine about a week or two in I notice I can hit all my lifts. Before I might go like 4,3,3 and then have to redo the workout next time. now I can do 5,5,5 every time
The only reason to do sarms is youre too much of a pussy to pin.
SARMS have lower side effects and are legal to buy, that is a reason to do them.
Yes I think so
>lower side effects
>shuts down your test production even more aggressively than pinning
No it doesn't. Anyways the lower side effects are mostly the result of the lower androgenicity - balding, acne, aging etc aren't a problem on SARMS
This is not what my research suggests
Ok moron frick Black person. You figured it out. Theyre legal, no side effects and liver safe. This is why every pro bodybuilder chooses to take SARMs. OH WAIT LMAO THEY DONT. post body then take a lethal dose of your antidepressants you fricking wienerwipe.
SARMS won't get you huge but they'll help your lifting along. They aren't as effective as roids but the trade off seems to be fewer sides
>otherwise you're fricking up your body for no benefit
SARMS work without test
>SARMS work without test
They also suppress your natural testosterone production, so when you come off a SARM cycle you will be a low T beta b***h for a long while and lose all your gains you've made on SARMs while in constant catabolic state.
Can't you just do a PCT?
Pro bodybuilders don't care about sides
and test supresses your natural testosterone production infinitely more, so unless you want to turn into a HRT troony and be on test for life, they're still a better choice for most people. SARMs don't even require PCT in many cases and when they do, it's much shorter and with much lower doses. people decide to say goodbye to their balls and "blast & cruise" because they lose almost everything after test cycles or cycles with a test base
not what I was implying with test and you don't know what you're talking about
>SARMS help with little to no sides
Yesh thats why all pro bodybuilders take them. OH WAIT THEY DONT
>shuts down your test production even more aggressively than pinning
lmao you're braindead
SARMs annihilate your liver at exponential speed as you take them orally .
sarms are generally as hepatoxic as moderate drinking, some newer sarms even less
I don’t know where to get steroids 🙁
imagine coping with turning into a troony, dependent on constant HRT injections for life, by coming up with ridiculous strawmans. no one is scared of injections, but no one sane would willingly turn his literal manhood into a pharma subscription service and add another chore, required to avoid turning into a enuch. if you really want to "pin" something, take HCG injections and enclo. unless you're a b***h will barely functioning balls, your natural test will be high enough to give you androgenic sides and stopping will not turn you into a woman, the increased test will last for weeks after stopping. as for muscle, test is like the worst substance to build muscle anyway, as far as the anabolic to androgenic ratio is concerned
Where is this story from? I'm going to guess it's Australia that's setting up concentration camps because it seems like something they'd do
It is
>voluntary
>barbed fence escape
?
SARMs are only effective when combined with Test base, otherwise you're fricking up your body for no benefit, and if you're going to pin Test, then there's better options for AAS that go with Test than SARMs
I have only ever done 3 cycles in my life, and each of those cycles was LGD. Here is the breakdown as close as I can remember cause it's been 5 years
First cycle was 8 weeks. It was good, but I felt it took a month for it to kick in, and then I only had a month of gains before stopping. Kept hold of most of the small gains I made.
1 month nolva for pct
Second was 12 weeks. I did it while bulking and I watched my strength and weight on the scale increase at a good rate. Pumps felt amazing. People made a lot of comments about my size.
1 month clomid for pct. Kept about half the gains and strength dropped a tiny bit
Third was 12 weeks during a cut. The fat melted off me pretty quick and don't think I lost any muscle. My muscles felt super hard. Forearm pumps were insane but lower back pumps were painful.
2 weeks clomid (remaining stock from the 2nd cycle) and 4 weeks on some shady arimistane based pct supplement. I noticed no suppression sides doing this.
Here is a pic towards the end of the cut, sorry for blurriness
Do I recommend them? I dunno, you're an adult, make up your own mind. I personally wont do them again. If you decide to then research thoroughly beforehand
pointless, you will get slight gains and it will vanish as soon as you stop, just like steroids, you really want to take hormone altering research chemicals so that you could be a bit more muscular for a few months?
Does anyone know how long he was off them for and if he stopped working out? I understand him losing the lean bodymass from not pinning, but he looks like he just stopped exercising for months as well.
Hospitalized for a couple of months. It's Gordon Ryan. He's.. Uh.. 28 years old.
natty limit on the right
That happens regardless of whether you're on roids or not.
sarms? where to buy them legally
Tried 6 weeks rad140+mk677, currently on about week 3 of lgd+yk11+cardarine. Tried a couple weeks ostarine but decided to save it for a cut. Had very good mileage from the first stack, gave me a lot of drive and energy, lifts went up and I was hitting the gym basically every day without fatigue or need for recovery, might have made me more extraverted, most likely made me more attractive overall because I started getting a lot of complements from strangers. The lgd stack I'm on currently has been underwhelming performance-wise but I think I notice the energy from cardarine on a daily basis at work at least. Mightve just tanked my test from the first 6 weeks and am getting diminishing results, but Im also israeliteing myself out of sleep because of weird work hours which might be the culprit. Probably going to do the rad+mk cycle on and off for the foreseeable future, might keep the cardarine, will try sr9009 with ostarine for a cut sometime soon. Going to try clomiphene for this cycle pct. No noticeable sides as of yet.
I ran LGD and Ostarine for 6 months
Lots of back acne, pretty bad anxiety, minimal gains other than that I was able to add 10 lbs to most lifts by the end
Only chronic issue it caused is I can’t hold my piss anymore. I mean it’s always just leaking out of me like a broken faucet
I like sarms. doing sarms without a test base is stupid imo, so little zoom zooms shouldn't touch them. the angry roidbros in this thread who've clearly never done them should honestly just stop talking. what do you think you're contributing to the conversation by repeating shit you heard from derek? stop talking.
I like rad140 when I'm cutting. injectable lgd is one of the best muscle builders that exists imo.
the big problem with sarms is that they're selective. a lot of the benefits of hormonal steroids is the spillover. there's an article (I think t-nation, can't find it) from a decade ago that talks about this. like how tren is actually a shit muscle builder, but it's so god damn potent at annihilating cortisol that even when you're walking around on 2 hours of sleep in a constant paranoid rage, you just never go catabolic. sarms don't do any of that because they're selective. and it turns out that agonizing the androgen receptor is actually not the most important part of getting big.
they were also very over-sold a few years ago. "all the benefits of steroids and none of the drawbacks!" neither of those turned out to be true, but morons saying they shut you down harder than test or they annihilate your liver are just wrong. compare the liver value elevations to prohormones or anadrol and then get back to me.
tldr: sarms have their place, but don't touch them unless you're already pinning test
>tldr: sarms have their place, but don't touch them unless you're already pinning test
But why not if you just want a small boost for minimal sides?
a big issue is that they are extremely strong mg for mg, but have massively diminishing returns. so they do crazy things to the liver when people take absurdly large doses and don't realize it.
you're a moron. one of the main advantages of sarms is how little supressive they are and how quick and easy PCTs are and you're suggesting to add test, which is extremely supressive at basically any dose (and a shit muscle builder compared with basically anything, considering the dose and androgenic sides) and makes evey PCT living hell that leads to most of the gains being lost.
all that's needed is to add enclo a bit earlier than after the cycle, about 6 weeks in, when the potential supression usually starts, at least in my case
doing 10mg ostarine about a week or two in I notice I can hit all my lifts. Before I might go like 4,3,3 and then have to redo the workout next time. now I can do 5,5,5 every time