>Together with his brother J.H. Kellogg, W.K. Kellogg promoted cereals, especially corn flakes (maize), as a healthy breakfast food. They started the Sanitas Food Company around 1897, focusing on the production of their whole-grain cereals. At the time, the standard breakfast for the well-off was eggs and meat, while the poor ate porridge, farina, gruel and other boiled grains.
the standard breakfast for the well-off was eggs and meat, >the standard breakfast for the well-off was eggs and meat,
You dont even know how far this rabbit hole goes anon. Kellogg is also behind the gential mutliation cult in the U.S because calvinists HATE fun so he wanted to chop the foreskin off so people wouldn't jerk off and couldnt find love for anyone other than god.
Da joos want you to replace cheap fat with expensive fat (avocado, salmon...). Plus they want you to buy expensive sugar free alternatives so that you pour their brand new stevia, sucralose, dextrose and aspartame filled sweeteners (also expensive)
Da joos eat mostly unsaturated fats and they are very unhealthy so yeah they might be. Unfortunately their own country shows it is bad for health and longevity.
you're missing the rest of the world paradox where saturated fat consumption does predict heart disease, in apparent contradiction to the widely held belief by morons that the israelites have anything to do with this.
interesting, could this explain why when some people get fat they look full, like someone inflated them with a bicycle pump and some people look sloppy?
The difference between 7.5% and 15% is quite negligible. Not to mention that eastern block countries usually consume more saturated fat(eggs, lard, bone broth etc.).
*saturated fat as proxy of processed junk food intake and wealth/intelligence/education/height, you mean.
saturated fat from unprocessed homecooked meat, eggs, and whole (fermented) dairy is protective against heart disease.
There's not that much saturated fat in processed junk food. Saturated fat is an expensive fat. Those things you mentioned are protective against heart disease only relative to goyslop and only because goyslop is even worse. Check the odds ratios against leaner meats or seafood.
Hydrogenated seed oils, palm oil, and coconut oil are abundant in junk food. Not that PUFA-rich seed oils aren't also abundant. There's also saturated fat in processed meat.
Lean meats and seafood may do better in a
high carb high seed oil diet, but likely not in a low carb low seed oil diet. Also people who aren't satiated from lean meat may compensate by eating more processed food.
There's also the guideline bias: people who are more intelligent/educated/wealthy/taller tend to follow guidelines better, which positively biases things the guidelines promote and negatively biases things the guidelines discourage.
Being fat, not saturated fat, causes heart problems.
Saturated fat is correlated with heart disease because fat people, who are prone to heart disease, eat more of it, just as they eat way more of other non-protein things (carbs, fat, and alcohol)
But those other non-protein things, specifically carbs and alcohol, aren't associated with heart disease because they have powerful lobbies pushing their agenda deeply embedded in public health agencies. Thus the government line has at times been "6-11 servings" of grains are just fine, a glass of wine or two every day is good for you, etc.
This is not ketolard posting. Saturated fat is not particularly *good* for you, either. Like all fat it's extremely calorically dense. It does have a bit more satiety long term than similar cals of carbs (kind of) but psychological satiety from fat takes a bit longer to register, and in that time people tend to eat more. They also tend to be processed with carbs into super hedonic foods, which have a shitton of calories and you just want to keep eating, e.g. chips, ice cream, etc.
Same old shit that has worked forever: prioritize lean proteins, don't be scared of limited carbs/fats but make them way subservient to whatever protein you have. If you do have carbs/fats, have whole foods that have a ton of water/volume to fill up faster so you don't eat as much.
They don't want to give it up. Also they hate being told what to do by authority figures and are contrarians. It's why the only arguments are "JEWS" because it cannot be directly refuted or confirmed.
the common wisdom is wrong. saturated fats are natural and healthy. the people who wrote the common wisdom have even admitted they were wrong. its just ideologues still holding on to the old ideas
>Isnt it common knowledge that they cause heart problems?
Common knowledge from studies done in the 1960's and literally funded by the sugar industry.
Out of the things in your pic >fat on meat
Perfectly healthy >processed meats
Probably not good for you but due to the tons of additives they have, not the fat particularly. >pastries
Too much sugar. >pies
I don't see any major issue with savoury pies. >fried foods
Depends entirely on the oil used and if it's new or reused. >butter and ghee
Healthy >coconut oil
Healthy >crisps
Probably too salty, otherwise empty calories. >ice cream
Too much sugar >chocolate
Too much sugar.
>the fat every mammal is made of, the fat that is fed to almost every mammal as a baby, the fat that almost every mammal subsist off of in nature, the type of fat that even HERBIVOROUS mammals mostly consume (microbial fermentation creates saturated fat) is le BAD >the fat extracted from toxic seeds no one has ever eaten except in the last 100 years is good
There's saturated fat in olive oil. There's saturated fat in hungry man dinners. Not all saturated fats are equal. Obviously saturated fats will be bad for you if the source is shitty.
>but fat is kind of a meme.
No it isn't. You literally NEED fat for proper hormone production. If you never ate fat again, you would end up dying very quickly. Don't say stupid shit like this ever again.
>Dr. Michael Greger said saturated fat is bad, so if a vegan says it, it must be true!
NATURAL saturated fat from meat, eggs and dairy is good for you. Saturated fat from processed goyslop is bad for you. Simple as. Depends on the source. But saturated fat in and of itself is not bad for you at all, no matter what some meme quack homosexual Black person says.
Saying saturated fat is bad for you is at best a gross simplification and often misappropriated for vegan propaganda purposes. On the other hand idiots saying there's no truth to any of it are just being contrarian morons. Truth is animal fats are a mix of saturated and monounsaturated with a smaller amount of polyunsaturated. The closest thing to a true source of saturated fat are tropical fats like coconut and palm. Different sources of fats have different fatty acid profiles, and different fatty acids have different metabolic actions anyway. Grouping fats by "saturated' and "unsaturated " is moronic.
It was common knowledge a few years ago that the vax was safe and effective. It used to be common knowledge that margarine was better for you than butter. It used to be common knowledge that eggs were good for you. But then they were bad. Are you seeing any patterns here?
>Bro what if we compared people who eat McDonald's and fried food and make the conclusion it's steak that causes heart attacks >oh and it's based on asking someone once a year what they ate in July
It goes back to Ancel Keys, He found the research of John Goffman who was studying lipoproteins, diet and health outcomes, but keys was a moron looking for fame so he misread goffman's work and got bankrolled by the sugar and grain lobby to demonise animal fat and
Goffman's research literally showed that they type of lipoprotein associated with bad health outcomes like diabetes and obesitys was VLDL which is a product of carbohydrate digestion in the liver. But Keys needed a promotion move and smelt money.
Goffman got so fricked over that he eventually moved to an entirely separate field to avoid Keys and his dogs
Another factor is the the seventh day adventists following the crazy prophecies of Ellen G White who dreamed of the world being saved after everyone ate what she called the garden of eden diet (plants) o they're ideologically driven against meat consumption and have a disturbing level of influence on state recommended nutrition information and legislation
Saturated fat is to the heart as glucose is to the brain. It's the preferred fuel source of that organ. But I don't know how many grams that means you should eat per day.
>Isnt it common knowledge that they cause heart problems?
israeli lies
>da joos are trying to stop you eating loads of fatty red meat and ice cream
Ok?
sugar will kill you long before saturated fats.
its even worse
Kellogg, a rapid calvinist and hebrew simp funded red meat and saturated fat is evil to force the goyim to eat his corn flakes
>Together with his brother J.H. Kellogg, W.K. Kellogg promoted cereals, especially corn flakes (maize), as a healthy breakfast food. They started the Sanitas Food Company around 1897, focusing on the production of their whole-grain cereals. At the time, the standard breakfast for the well-off was eggs and meat, while the poor ate porridge, farina, gruel and other boiled grains.
the standard breakfast for the well-off was eggs and meat,
>the standard breakfast for the well-off was eggs and meat,
You dont even know how far this rabbit hole goes anon. Kellogg is also behind the gential mutliation cult in the U.S because calvinists HATE fun so he wanted to chop the foreskin off so people wouldn't jerk off and couldnt find love for anyone other than god.
I've always wanted to have a cute little chimp sister too.. The world wasn't ready for the genius of the kellog brothers..
Da joos want you to replace cheap fat with expensive fat (avocado, salmon...). Plus they want you to buy expensive sugar free alternatives so that you pour their brand new stevia, sucralose, dextrose and aspartame filled sweeteners (also expensive)
No one who is pro saturated fats suggests you should eat ice cream which has 10 cups of sugar (oh wait, high fructose corn syrup)
lol sugar is glucose/fructose
but ye, high fructose corn sizzurp cause mah corn fed subsidies
frick you america
Da joos eat mostly unsaturated fats and they are very unhealthy so yeah they might be. Unfortunately their own country shows it is bad for health and longevity.
>isn't it common knowledge that the experimental mrna injection is safe and effective?
you're missing the rest of the world paradox where saturated fat consumption does predict heart disease, in apparent contradiction to the widely held belief by morons that the israelites have anything to do with this.
You're lying. See pic related. See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_are_a_homosexual
interesting, could this explain why when some people get fat they look full, like someone inflated them with a bicycle pump and some people look sloppy?
Sorry homo, the science is extremely clear at this point. Avoiding fat is pretty much just sad at this point. Low fat is dead, ansel keys failed
Are you stuck in the 1970s or something? No one is saying all fat is bad. Just trans and saturated fats.
You’re the one stuck in time and don’t even know what Ansel Keys claimed.
Why do poor countries with precarious hospitals and lack of easy access to medicines have higher rates of heart diseases?
At least half of my MSc was epidemiology, and I think at least half of that difference was driven by smoking rates.
The difference between 7.5% and 15% is quite negligible. Not to mention that eastern block countries usually consume more saturated fat(eggs, lard, bone broth etc.).
it's not neglegible at all. why would you say that? lol
that's double the consumption. and they have less than half the amount of deaths.
*saturated fat as proxy of processed junk food intake and wealth/intelligence/education/height, you mean.
saturated fat from unprocessed homecooked meat, eggs, and whole (fermented) dairy is protective against heart disease.
There's not that much saturated fat in processed junk food. Saturated fat is an expensive fat. Those things you mentioned are protective against heart disease only relative to goyslop and only because goyslop is even worse. Check the odds ratios against leaner meats or seafood.
see picrel
Hydrogenated seed oils, palm oil, and coconut oil are abundant in junk food. Not that PUFA-rich seed oils aren't also abundant. There's also saturated fat in processed meat.
Lean meats and seafood may do better in a
high carb high seed oil diet, but likely not in a low carb low seed oil diet. Also people who aren't satiated from lean meat may compensate by eating more processed food.
There's also the guideline bias: people who are more intelligent/educated/wealthy/taller tend to follow guidelines better, which positively biases things the guidelines promote and negatively biases things the guidelines discourage.
Most of the people who post here are mentally moronic.
Being fat, not saturated fat, causes heart problems.
Saturated fat is correlated with heart disease because fat people, who are prone to heart disease, eat more of it, just as they eat way more of other non-protein things (carbs, fat, and alcohol)
But those other non-protein things, specifically carbs and alcohol, aren't associated with heart disease because they have powerful lobbies pushing their agenda deeply embedded in public health agencies. Thus the government line has at times been "6-11 servings" of grains are just fine, a glass of wine or two every day is good for you, etc.
This is not ketolard posting. Saturated fat is not particularly *good* for you, either. Like all fat it's extremely calorically dense. It does have a bit more satiety long term than similar cals of carbs (kind of) but psychological satiety from fat takes a bit longer to register, and in that time people tend to eat more. They also tend to be processed with carbs into super hedonic foods, which have a shitton of calories and you just want to keep eating, e.g. chips, ice cream, etc.
Same old shit that has worked forever: prioritize lean proteins, don't be scared of limited carbs/fats but make them way subservient to whatever protein you have. If you do have carbs/fats, have whole foods that have a ton of water/volume to fill up faster so you don't eat as much.
Saturated fat, like all types of fat, is good for you.
Carbs are deadly poison.
Post body
I can smell the grease on you, fatass.
See
>Carbs are deadly poison
Weird how all the longest lived people ate and eat carbs.
But what about trans fats? Isn’t thar shit supposed to be bad?
Trans fats were taken out of the food supply (in the USA at least) ages ago
>le calories are bad for you
>le nutrient sparse lean meat is good for you
>le saturated fat is bad for you
Please go back
See
Post body
Basically, too much of anything is not good for you.
They don't want to give it up. Also they hate being told what to do by authority figures and are contrarians. It's why the only arguments are "JEWS" because it cannot be directly refuted or confirmed.
the common wisdom is wrong. saturated fats are natural and healthy. the people who wrote the common wisdom have even admitted they were wrong. its just ideologues still holding on to the old ideas
>its just ideologues still holding on to the old ideas
It's vegans in particular. This is a moxyte thread.
the most concentrated source of saturated fats is coconut oil which is a plant food. not sure why this would be a vegan thing
Vegans think the saturated fat lie is a good way to discourage consumption of meat and dairy.
Don't even bother arguing with the schizo
Bros I use coconut oil on hair and eyebrows at night how fricked am I?
Tasty.
You take that back Black person! Nobody's gonna touch my 90% cocoa chocolate.
>90%
You're like a little baby
You can literally live off that alone.
t. carnivore for nearly a year
Are you lean?
I was winding up to say this, but you seem to have it handled. Have an excellent day, sir.
If you're not braindamaged, you can tell at a glance which foods in that image are healthy and which are not.
No. Avoid them at your own peril
>Isnt it common knowledge that they cause heart problems?
Common knowledge from studies done in the 1960's and literally funded by the sugar industry.
Out of the things in your pic
>fat on meat
Perfectly healthy
>processed meats
Probably not good for you but due to the tons of additives they have, not the fat particularly.
>pastries
Too much sugar.
>pies
I don't see any major issue with savoury pies.
>fried foods
Depends entirely on the oil used and if it's new or reused.
>butter and ghee
Healthy
>coconut oil
Healthy
>crisps
Probably too salty, otherwise empty calories.
>ice cream
Too much sugar
>chocolate
Too much sugar.
>the fat every mammal is made of, the fat that is fed to almost every mammal as a baby, the fat that almost every mammal subsist off of in nature, the type of fat that even HERBIVOROUS mammals mostly consume (microbial fermentation creates saturated fat) is le BAD
>the fat extracted from toxic seeds no one has ever eaten except in the last 100 years is good
There's saturated fat in olive oil. There's saturated fat in hungry man dinners. Not all saturated fats are equal. Obviously saturated fats will be bad for you if the source is shitty.
saturated fat is the best kind of fat, but fat is kind of a meme.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022316623130215
>but fat is kind of a meme.
No it isn't. You literally NEED fat for proper hormone production. If you never ate fat again, you would end up dying very quickly. Don't say stupid shit like this ever again.
>didn't read the link
>rather quote his favorite youtubers
cool opinion, woman.
>Dr. Michael Greger said saturated fat is bad, so if a vegan says it, it must be true!
NATURAL saturated fat from meat, eggs and dairy is good for you. Saturated fat from processed goyslop is bad for you. Simple as. Depends on the source. But saturated fat in and of itself is not bad for you at all, no matter what some meme quack homosexual Black person says.
Saying saturated fat is bad for you is at best a gross simplification and often misappropriated for vegan propaganda purposes. On the other hand idiots saying there's no truth to any of it are just being contrarian morons. Truth is animal fats are a mix of saturated and monounsaturated with a smaller amount of polyunsaturated. The closest thing to a true source of saturated fat are tropical fats like coconut and palm. Different sources of fats have different fatty acid profiles, and different fatty acids have different metabolic actions anyway. Grouping fats by "saturated' and "unsaturated " is moronic.
It was common knowledge a few years ago that the vax was safe and effective. It used to be common knowledge that margarine was better for you than butter. It used to be common knowledge that eggs were good for you. But then they were bad. Are you seeing any patterns here?
Read Udo Erasmus
>Bro what if we compared people who eat McDonald's and fried food and make the conclusion it's steak that causes heart attacks
>oh and it's based on asking someone once a year what they ate in July
How many eggs a day for sick gains and raging erections?
It goes back to Ancel Keys, He found the research of John Goffman who was studying lipoproteins, diet and health outcomes, but keys was a moron looking for fame so he misread goffman's work and got bankrolled by the sugar and grain lobby to demonise animal fat and
Goffman's research literally showed that they type of lipoprotein associated with bad health outcomes like diabetes and obesitys was VLDL which is a product of carbohydrate digestion in the liver. But Keys needed a promotion move and smelt money.
Goffman got so fricked over that he eventually moved to an entirely separate field to avoid Keys and his dogs
Another factor is the the seventh day adventists following the crazy prophecies of Ellen G White who dreamed of the world being saved after everyone ate what she called the garden of eden diet (plants) o they're ideologically driven against meat consumption and have a disturbing level of influence on state recommended nutrition information and legislation
here's all you need to know about fats:
good when from animal products
bad when from vegetable/seed oils
snpl as
including olive oil?
Saturated fat is to the heart as glucose is to the brain. It's the preferred fuel source of that organ. But I don't know how many grams that means you should eat per day.