> implying animal fats don't look like that
You fell for the meme. Is sunflower not a seed oil? Rapeseed? No, someone in 2023 just had to go ahead and fabricate this nonsense meme.
Also it looks exactly like the peanut butter you fatso love so much. What's your problem.
>Is sunflower not a seed oil? Rapeseed? No,
Where did you get the idea these aren't seed oils?
Pro tip: If you need to crush 20,000 sunflower seeds to get one bottle of oil, safe to say all the nutritional value from the seeds is long gone.
It's crazy how they can still sell it for so cheap after putting it through such an intensive industrial process with heaps of chemicals and shit being consumed in the process.
are there any papers showing that reducing omega-6 PUFA intake actually helps.. anything? i used to just assume it was bad because it intuitively feels wrong to eat so much when we didn't evolve to. but random control studies don't show any negative impact.
unless /misc/ knows some? plenty of papers in youtube vid _VwDZVbfrKo showing no real negative impact
Yes. >Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today's Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases, whereas increased levels of omega-3 PUFA (a low omega-6/omega-3 ratio) exert suppressive effects. >In the secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease, a ratio of 4/1 was associated with a 70% decrease in total mortality.
tl;dr omega 3 good, omega 6 bad.
ok that's from doi.org 10.1016/s0753-3322(02)00253-6 - seems to help in situations where people are already fricked up (pre-existing cardiovascular issues or straight up cancer) but i haven't found anything pointing to causal relationships. i try to eat mostly monounsaturated these days, seems least bad option.
the typical outcome from random studies shows a net benefit, like doi 10.1161/01.CIR.40.1S2.II-1 >when these data were pooled with those for cerebral infarction and other secondary end points, the totals were 96 in the control group and 66 in the experimental group; P=0.01. Fatal atherosclerotic events numbered 70 in the control group and 48 in the experimental group; P<0.05
tl;dr most studies find similar outcomes - replacing saturated fat with evil linoleic gives positive outcomes.
and yes i know all about arachidonic acid and OXLAMs but studies i've found on them don't really show any negative impact either - body seems to metabolize them just fine unless you're just super unhealthy for other reasons. i still don't eat seed oils but don't worry as much about it when i eat out now.
I bought butter today, and bread. First time in a long time I buy bread and butter. Anyway I didn't buy the kind of butter that's mixed butter and seed oil. Bought pure butter. Harder to spread but tastes better and, well, no seed oil.
I've gotten tallow to last a long ass time by boiling it first to remove the water. Filter it with so e cheese cloth to get rid of any extra stuff, and then while still hot pour it into a double seal mason jar. Seal it and let it cool on a shelf.
>I eat sneed oils every day and I'm helthy >I got vaccinated 7 times and I don't get cheat pains
These aren't arguments. It's like saying >I grew up in a house with asbestos and lead paint and I'm still alive therefore it's safe.
I’ve had a heart murmur since I was an infant. It has nothing to do with being a responsible citizen, or my mom being 42 when she had me. It’s just one of those things. I’m healthy.
Everything you breathe, drink, eat and piss is filled with glyphosate and other cancerous pesticides Black person.
Every single person in the world is compromise so step off your high horse moron.
I don't eat much processed white flour, unless I'm cooking for someone else or eating out. Otherwise, it's whole grain, whole wheat pasta, bread, etc. One, I turned 30 and my body decided "oh, processed carbs are going to give you diarrhea and/or soft-serve stool now".
I also eat mostly brown rice. Honestly, I don't get why people hate it so much?
>Unbleached whole wheat flour
Basically no difference.
Firstly it's probably 80% white and 20% whole wheat. 2ndly it still has the glyphosate, folic acid, atrizine and all the othwer fun chemicals they add.
Flour is in e v e r y t h i n g. You would be amazed what's out when you cut flour - no bread, baked goods, biscuits, cereal, anything frozen except fruit/veggies, most candy, 90% of packaged foods.
Simplest way is go strict gluten free, same thing as no flour. My gut used to be like a cement mixer but since I did this I feel great.
Always check the label. I almost bought soba noodles one time.. nope 50% wheat flour. Food production is a racket and wheat flour is their bread and butter.
Recommend quinoa, absolute God tier food and it's not a grain.
I use olive oil, ghee, butter, lard, and coconut oil mostly. I also have duck and goose fat frozen for when I want to be fancy. I cook a lot of Italian food (grew up in a traditional Italian family), but I also do a lot of Asian, Indian, French, Mexican and Hispanic cooking.
Cast iron, and stainless pans only. Mostly cast iron. And carbon steel woks.
I still like grape seed oil for seasoning pans though. I mix it with equal parts bees wax and olive oil.
(Not stressing out / keeping your cortisol levels low) is the key to most health. Your body can do great things when you aren't cucking it with neuroticism.
It's not so much "chill" it is use your energy on more effective things. Fretting about dodging all seed oils or learning how to [redacted] the high level [redacted] that are raping your people through [redacted], ect.
TLDR: STAY FOCUSED
Agreed. I mean if you cook with that shit you're an idiot but you gotta work with what you have if you're traveling or eating out. Instead of spending your energy on neurotic bullshit you should channel it into things that are productive but also take care of yourself and take a little time to relax, reflect, and rest so you're in fighting shape. Also feed yourself enough, avoid the weird diet bullshit and focus on foods that are pro metabolic and get enough steps every day.
>Fretting about dodging all seed oils
There is no fretting involved, you simply don't eat anything with it, it's not hard, you don't eat out, you don't eat processed "food." Eat meats and fruits, prepare your own meals, if you can't time for an impromptu fast, fasting is good for you, your body goes into a repair mode, actually helps than harms from ingesting crap. Humans evolved to do this from not eating until food is found/caught, eating all the fricking time is unnatural to human condition.
I run an natural trails. I'm not taking parks either. Like actual preserves where I see animals. Deee, hogs, gators, tortoises, snakes, raccoons, rabbits, bob cats, coyotes, and water fowl of all sorts. It's relaxing and makes me feel connected with nature. And I never not see animals. I highly recommend it.
I usually do about 3-5 miles, but I will go up to 8, even 12 if I'm training for a marathon.
>A lot of yogurt and kefir, blended with fruit, spinach, avocado, and 5 tbl spoons of flax&hemp seeds.in the morning and early afternoon >Peanuts and a soft cheese to snack on >8 ounces of chicken or beef at night with broccoli >all organic
This has been my daily diet for 2 months now and I dont think i can go back ro my old ways. I have already lost 25 pounds and feel great
i only use butter, olive oil, and coconut oil.
Butter is a condiment for putting on potatoes and corn
Olive oil is the only cooling oil i use, cold pressed extra virgin. Both for salads, baking, and stir frying.
coconut oil i mainly use for my skin, as an antacid, and as lube
This funny guy.
One day, if that is your real flag, we will drink together.
Whatever your beverage of chose may be.
I love you and know you through blood.
STFU there is nothing wrong with seed oils. Boiled linseed oil is great for concrete (especially in freeze-thaw regions) and I've been using rapeseed oil on my door hinges since the 90s. Never a problem. Great lightweight oils.
Why do you guys make everything an all-or-nothing nonsense battle?
Like maybe it is the case that a specific component in a specific process used to refine a specific good does indeed create a negative health situation.
But you just screech and piss and make yourselves look moronic.
Mike Peinovich of TRS and NJP says seed oils are great. He says anyone who disagrees with him is a israelite who needs to die. (His israeli wife doesn't need to die, though, because she loves seed oils. She also loves drag queens.)
> implying animal fats don't look like that
You fell for the meme. Is sunflower not a seed oil? Rapeseed? No, someone in 2023 just had to go ahead and fabricate this nonsense meme.
Also it looks exactly like the peanut butter you fatso love so much. What's your problem.
>Is sunflower not a seed oil? Rapeseed? No,
Where did you get the idea these aren't seed oils?
Pro tip: If you need to crush 20,000 sunflower seeds to get one bottle of oil, safe to say all the nutritional value from the seeds is long gone.
It's crazy how they can still sell it for so cheap after putting it through such an intensive industrial process with heaps of chemicals and shit being consumed in the process.
It's an industrial process at this point. If you visited the factory you wouldn't know if you were at a food production facility or a chemical plant.
And yeah the fact its so cheap goes to show how these days it's all about the profit margin.
It used to be cheap. 99 cents for a quart bottle of oil. Now the same bottle is almost $4
Now post the pasteurization process
corpse starch
>NOO I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS SO THAT MEANS IT BAD FOR YOU
I use lard and tallow only. Olive oil reserved for popcorn once in a while.
this guy fricks. thanks for fricking
Lard is the best.
not the way we feed pigs. tallow is best due to cows 6 stomachs. butter and ghee also good.
>infantile israeli pilpul
Pissrael won’t survive this century.
you almost got it but not quite. if an oil requires an industrial machine to extract then that means its bad for you
>NOO I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS SO THAT MEANS IT BAD FOR YOU
/thread
this you just know the people that think its "yucky" are the same people that hate eating broccoli as a child
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_paradox
Why do they still insist that it is a paradox? LOL
Canola oil has a better omega 3:6 ratio then olive oil
I wish you all the success in conning npcs to continue ingesting loads of omega 6 as if the ratio is the only thing that matters.
Animal fat is great for you and it looks exactly like that.
Animal fats are usable as-is, or after rendering.
Sneed oils require 20 different steps involving numerous dodgy chemicals to make them (ostensibly) fit for human consumption.
I don’t consume seed oils. I only consume chink gutter oil
I’ve switched to lard for frying and clarified butter (home made) for sautéing. No more seed oils at home. Feels good.
>sauté
I don’t know what this word means but I’ve noticed pretentious gays like to use it
It means lightly frying something in an oil you dumb frick.
Come back here when your old enough to cook your own food. You pretentious gay.
are there any papers showing that reducing omega-6 PUFA intake actually helps.. anything? i used to just assume it was bad because it intuitively feels wrong to eat so much when we didn't evolve to. but random control studies don't show any negative impact.
unless /misc/ knows some? plenty of papers in youtube vid _VwDZVbfrKo showing no real negative impact
Yes.
>Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today's Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases, whereas increased levels of omega-3 PUFA (a low omega-6/omega-3 ratio) exert suppressive effects.
>In the secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease, a ratio of 4/1 was associated with a 70% decrease in total mortality.
tl;dr omega 3 good, omega 6 bad.
ok that's from doi.org 10.1016/s0753-3322(02)00253-6 - seems to help in situations where people are already fricked up (pre-existing cardiovascular issues or straight up cancer) but i haven't found anything pointing to causal relationships. i try to eat mostly monounsaturated these days, seems least bad option.
>i haven't found anything pointing to causal relationships
"I haven't looked, therefore there's no evidence".
You should work for the FDA.
the typical outcome from random studies shows a net benefit, like doi 10.1161/01.CIR.40.1S2.II-1
>when these data were pooled with those for cerebral infarction and other secondary end points, the totals were 96 in the control group and 66 in the experimental group; P=0.01. Fatal atherosclerotic events numbered 70 in the control group and 48 in the experimental group; P<0.05
tl;dr most studies find similar outcomes - replacing saturated fat with evil linoleic gives positive outcomes.
and yes i know all about arachidonic acid and OXLAMs but studies i've found on them don't really show any negative impact either - body seems to metabolize them just fine unless you're just super unhealthy for other reasons. i still don't eat seed oils but don't worry as much about it when i eat out now.
I bought butter today, and bread. First time in a long time I buy bread and butter. Anyway I didn't buy the kind of butter that's mixed butter and seed oil. Bought pure butter. Harder to spread but tastes better and, well, no seed oil.
Leave on the counter for a day, as long as you buy salted it wont go bad and becomes spreadable
It's 28 degrees celsius in my apartment
Gonna need that in freedom units, please and thanks.
What the frick is a celerysis
You mean your cave?
what about coconut oil. is that safe
Yes, it's not heavily processed and has healthy saturated fats
Yeah and it's great for you. I also recommend MCT oil which is derived from coconuts
The only oil that is okay is sunflower, no solvents used.
How long is tallow shelf stable at room temp? I got 40kgs for $200 2 months ago and maybe have gone through a few kg at best
I've gotten tallow to last a long ass time by boiling it first to remove the water. Filter it with so e cheese cloth to get rid of any extra stuff, and then while still hot pour it into a double seal mason jar. Seal it and let it cool on a shelf.
Honey, I eat seed oils everyday and I'm healthy af.
proof
Did you snap both ACL'S trying to catch the ice cream man?
My body doesn't produce cartilage like "normal" people. It has nothing to do with my diet.
How fast is your two mile?
I probably walk a mile a day, so two days.
>I eat sneed oils every day and I'm helthy
>I got vaccinated 7 times and I don't get cheat pains
These aren't arguments. It's like saying
>I grew up in a house with asbestos and lead paint and I'm still alive therefore it's safe.
I’ve had a heart murmur since I was an infant. It has nothing to do with being a responsible citizen, or my mom being 42 when she had me. It’s just one of those things. I’m healthy.
Everything you breathe, drink, eat and piss is filled with glyphosate and other cancerous pesticides Black person.
Every single person in the world is compromise so step off your high horse moron.
>inb4 morons in denial
even rainwater has glyphosate, none of you are safe
We can still limit exposure. I don't eat flour for this exact reason.
I don't eat much processed white flour, unless I'm cooking for someone else or eating out. Otherwise, it's whole grain, whole wheat pasta, bread, etc. One, I turned 30 and my body decided "oh, processed carbs are going to give you diarrhea and/or soft-serve stool now".
I also eat mostly brown rice. Honestly, I don't get why people hate it so much?
>Unbleached whole wheat flour
Basically no difference.
Firstly it's probably 80% white and 20% whole wheat. 2ndly it still has the glyphosate, folic acid, atrizine and all the othwer fun chemicals they add.
Flour is in e v e r y t h i n g. You would be amazed what's out when you cut flour - no bread, baked goods, biscuits, cereal, anything frozen except fruit/veggies, most candy, 90% of packaged foods.
Simplest way is go strict gluten free, same thing as no flour. My gut used to be like a cement mixer but since I did this I feel great.
Always check the label. I almost bought soba noodles one time.. nope 50% wheat flour. Food production is a racket and wheat flour is their bread and butter.
Recommend quinoa, absolute God tier food and it's not a grain.
I use olive oil, ghee, butter, lard, and coconut oil mostly. I also have duck and goose fat frozen for when I want to be fancy. I cook a lot of Italian food (grew up in a traditional Italian family), but I also do a lot of Asian, Indian, French, Mexican and Hispanic cooking.
Cast iron, and stainless pans only. Mostly cast iron. And carbon steel woks.
I still like grape seed oil for seasoning pans though. I mix it with equal parts bees wax and olive oil.
I started butter is ghee real?
We're all drinking hormones in the water anyways and we will all die one day so just live life and find peace within yourself.
(Not stressing out / keeping your cortisol levels low) is the key to most health. Your body can do great things when you aren't cucking it with neuroticism.
This. Meditate, relax. We do it to ourselves.
It's not so much "chill" it is use your energy on more effective things. Fretting about dodging all seed oils or learning how to [redacted] the high level [redacted] that are raping your people through [redacted], ect.
TLDR: STAY FOCUSED
Agreed. I mean if you cook with that shit you're an idiot but you gotta work with what you have if you're traveling or eating out. Instead of spending your energy on neurotic bullshit you should channel it into things that are productive but also take care of yourself and take a little time to relax, reflect, and rest so you're in fighting shape. Also feed yourself enough, avoid the weird diet bullshit and focus on foods that are pro metabolic and get enough steps every day.
This guy seems to get it. Eat to fight, not "fighting is eating".
>Fretting about dodging all seed oils
There is no fretting involved, you simply don't eat anything with it, it's not hard, you don't eat out, you don't eat processed "food." Eat meats and fruits, prepare your own meals, if you can't time for an impromptu fast, fasting is good for you, your body goes into a repair mode, actually helps than harms from ingesting crap. Humans evolved to do this from not eating until food is found/caught, eating all the fricking time is unnatural to human condition.
From my understanding such fasts are only helpful if infrequent and longer than 24 hours.
Nope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhmtoAYVRSo
Agreed otherwise. *Assuming it is not a Herculean task for the individual.
I run an natural trails. I'm not taking parks either. Like actual preserves where I see animals. Deee, hogs, gators, tortoises, snakes, raccoons, rabbits, bob cats, coyotes, and water fowl of all sorts. It's relaxing and makes me feel connected with nature. And I never not see animals. I highly recommend it.
I usually do about 3-5 miles, but I will go up to 8, even 12 if I'm training for a marathon.
that's the giant vat outside of restaurants where they put the used oil when they clean the friers once every couple weeks.
i exclusively use tallow and butter in all of my cooking
My diet is 60% fat, 25% protein, 15% carbs
>A lot of yogurt and kefir, blended with fruit, spinach, avocado, and 5 tbl spoons of flax&hemp seeds.in the morning and early afternoon
>Peanuts and a soft cheese to snack on
>8 ounces of chicken or beef at night with broccoli
>all organic
This has been my daily diet for 2 months now and I dont think i can go back ro my old ways. I have already lost 25 pounds and feel great
i only use butter, olive oil, and coconut oil.
Butter is a condiment for putting on potatoes and corn
Olive oil is the only cooling oil i use, cold pressed extra virgin. Both for salads, baking, and stir frying.
coconut oil i mainly use for my skin, as an antacid, and as lube
Not my problem.
This funny guy.
One day, if that is your real flag, we will drink together.
Whatever your beverage of chose may be.
I love you and know you through blood.
STFU there is nothing wrong with seed oils. Boiled linseed oil is great for concrete (especially in freeze-thaw regions) and I've been using rapeseed oil on my door hinges since the 90s. Never a problem. Great lightweight oils.
Some fat slags can pull it off. If they have a cute face and nice tanned skin tone like this one I don't mind a lil fat in the right spots.
>STFU there is nothing wrong with seed oils.
May you succeed in getting Darwin Awarders to ingest as much seed oil as possible.
How to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven:
Why do you guys make everything an all-or-nothing nonsense battle?
Like maybe it is the case that a specific component in a specific process used to refine a specific good does indeed create a negative health situation.
But you just screech and piss and make yourselves look moronic.
You're right, you should prove everyone morons by consuming as much omega 6 as possible.
Mike Peinovich of TRS and NJP says seed oils are great. He says anyone who disagrees with him is a israelite who needs to die. (His israeli wife doesn't need to die, though, because she loves seed oils. She also loves drag queens.)
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