can you guys help me with some studies and stuff about the dangers of seed oils?
im trying to explain to my parents about this shit but they wont lisent. i would want them to switch to beef tallow and coconu oil / olive oil
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After reading the history of the creation of the ''canola oil'' i wonder how a mentally sane man could ingest that shit
you mean that it was used as a machine lubrificant?
or that canola plant was toxic and they modified it to make it edible for humans?
All of this + the refining process.
Why just dont use cold pressed flaxseed oil which also contain natural Omega 3?
Seed oils are safe to consume and healthier than animal fats such as lard, tallow or butter.
yeah sure thing
remember that when frying a beyond meat burger
I think you have a right to eat unhealthy animal fats and harm your cardiovascular system if you want, just don't push that onto middle age or elderly people because eating saturated animal fats LITERALLY shortens your lifespan.
Look at Mexicans, they cook with lard and are very obese and unhealthy, on both mind and body.
in moderation and without any excesses , how can you argue that seed oils are any better than most natural and organic available fats. it shortens your lifespan if you are 400 pounds.
do you think that those mexicans can even run 500 feet?
>how can you argue that seed oils are any better than most natural and organic available fats.
Natural is not a synonym for positive.
Cancer is natural, dog vomit is natural, stinking is natural.
There is more than abundant scientific evidence that saturated fats are the biggest contributing factor for atheroma and poor cardiovascular health. I agree on moderation, but making lard or tallow your sole cooking fat is not being moderate.
>dog vomit is natural
white women literally prefer to sipt this than kiss all of us /fitizens
>Cancer
primarily caused by unnatural things, like Tobacco, obesity and poor diet.
>Dog vomit
Literally the process of getting toxins out of your body
>Stinking
If you eat better, you won't stink.
Yeah so what, all these things happen naturally
You can be the healthiest person and still get cancer, dickhead
>how can you argue that seed oils are any better than most natural and organic available fats
I mean, its pretty clear that if your diet consists of above 10% sat fat your rates of death by atherosclerosis goes up. In contrast, the "mediteranean diet" thing that got everyone in a fuss has upwards of 50% calories by unsatfat and their is no association with negative health outcomes. It's pretty cut and dry.
Germans and scandinavians cook with lards and are slim and fit
No we dont moron. We use alot of rapeseed oil in our cooking. Alot of tards use margarine here too. But we use olive and butter too. But seed oils are considered healthy here.
Rapeseed isn't that offensive, careful a ISTizen may cry sexual assault
No Germans mostly use rapeoil or sunflower and many use oliveoil meanwhile. You are talking shit out of your ass
>im trying to explain to my parents about this shit but they wont lisent.
and the oscar goes to..
>Look at Mexicans, they cook with lard
yeah bullshit. you don't know any mexicans. all the super obese ones eat a ton of food fried in vegetable oil these days
>and the oscar goes to..
its my fault that the mass media fryed their brains and belive everything they see/hear ?
no, but it is your fault that you're a dishonest vegan butthole
Fat mexicans constantly eat fried food and drink over 100g of sugar in a day. Source: I've worked with fat mexicans
I'm an American Mexican and I don't eat that shit. However, I did read that Mexican Mexicans consume an enormous amount of sugary coke.
Mexicans exclusively drink coca cola moron
PUFAs and MUFAs, especially omega 3s from fish and plant sources, are much healthier than animal-based sat fat. It's so clear in literature and the evidence is so overwhelming that no one in the community even really discusses it anymore (I work in a lab in the same building as a few diet science labs). Fringe articles pop up here and there but are generally laughable in their claims/evidence in comparison to the overwhelming amount of evidence that continues to mount, I have coworkers think of the seed oil people as the same intelligence and critical thinking skills as flat earthers, since they both ignore the massive quantities of evidence for misguided "but look at this" and obviously don't know enough about the respective topics in science to make a judgement call of what's a shitty paper and what's not.
> trust the experts
> experts agree
> everyone in the lab thinks
frick you, the people who think and live like you do are the ones who think it made sense that Biden mandated the vax after walensky stated with wolf blitzed that they did not stop the spread. you and your experts are intellectual vermin and i would rather die than listen to anything you have to say on diet and exercise
Based on your argument fast food is good for you. French fries cooked in seed oil is good for you. Burger buns made with seed oil are good for you. Very little meat in a big mac, the meal is mostly plants and seed oil.
I wonder if you'll have time to kill your parents with bad dietary advice before they institutionalize you
beef tallow -> butter -> -> GHEE -> coco NUT
>20 posts
>no studies posted
I'm waiting too for all of the 'evidence'.
There isn't really any quality evidence against seed oils. Just the Minnesota Coronary, which ended up being bunk because the vegetable oils they used were actually laced with Trans fats.
>https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.114.010236
> These data provide support for current recommendations to replace saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat for primary prevention of CHD.
> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-021-02507-1
>replacement of saturated fats with other macronutrients, such as polyunsaturated fats, was associated with reduced cardiovascular disease occurrence.
> https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/01.ATV.14.6.892
> reducing saturated fats is the key to lowering total and LDL cholesterol.
> https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/89/4/1641/2844241?login=false
> Our data demonstrate that short-term administration of a diet high in polyunsaturated fats induces a greater level of ketosis and improves SI without negatively affecting total or LDL cholesterol levels
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0163782708000593?via%3Dihub
> Available data from controlled intervention studies suggest beneficial effects on insulin sensitivity when SFA and TFA are replaced with MUFA or PUFA
> https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/104/12/6207/5540968?login=false
> SFA markedly induces liver fat and serum ceramides, whereas dietary PUFA prevents liver fat accumulation and reduces ceramides and hyperlipidemia during excess energy intake and weight gain in overweight individuals.
> https://ascopubs.org/doi/10.1200/JCO.2017.73.3329
> Findings from this large, international cohort consortium suggest that modifying dietary fat intake (ie, replacing saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat) may reduce lung cancer risk, particularly among smokers and for squamous cell and small cell carcinoma.
and
https://www.nature.com/articles/1600621
>These data suggest that cholesterol synthesis is lower during diets rich in coconut fat and safflower oil compared with diets rich in butter and might be associated with lower production rates of apoB-containing lipoproteins.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34527059/
>Our findings revealed that flaxseed oil supplementation might play a beneficial role in the reinforcement of the antioxidant defense system and amelioration of oxidative stress in adults.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34635132/
>Flaxseed intervention suggested the positive effects on lipid profiles, inflammatory cytokines and anthropometric indices in patients with dyslipidemia related diseases
>https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/13/7/2436/htm
>The addition of EVOO enhances the vasodilatory capacity of the brachial artery even in the short term
> https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/01.ATV.0000163185.28245.a1
> High SFA caused deterioration in FMD compared with high PUFA, MUFA, or CARB diets
Pardon me, my science speak is a little rusty, but aren't these just about animal fats vs plant oils?
My untrained eye doesn't see anything about seed oils bad.
>Just the Minnesota Coronary, which ended up being bunk because the vegetable oils they used were actually laced with Trans fats.
If anything it was the conttol group eating more trans fats. You are being disibgenious
>The MCE principal investigator (Ivan Frantz) and co-principal investigator (Ancel Keys), however, were well aware of the cholesterol raising effects of trans fat prior to initiating the MCE.77 Moreover, Frantz and Keys previously devised the diets used in the institutional arm of the National Diet Heart Feasibility Study (NDHS), which achieved the greatest reductions in serum cholesterol of all NDHS study sites.2 Hence, it is highly likely that this experienced MCE team selected products containing as little trans fat as possible to maximize the achieved degree of cholesterol lowering. Perhaps more importantly, it is clear from the MCE grant proposal that common margarines and shortenings (major sources of trans fat) were important components of the baseline hospital diets and the control diet (but not the intervention diet). Thus, confounding by dietary trans fat is an exceedingly unlikely explanation for the lack of benefit of the intervention diet.
Frick seed oils and frick lard, avocado and olive oil are god tier
Enjoy your basedbean oil
https://scitechdaily.com/warning-on-avocado-oil-sold-in-the-u-s-82-tested-rancid-or-mixed-with-other-oils/
Who would have thought the cartels would do this to us?
Same shit happens with olive oil too, due to the higher price people are willing to pay, the importation and lack of shits given by the FDA, groups always try to make a buck with some fake ass oil. Some group was literally adding chlorophyll to some cut olive oil to make it look greener
Years ago, I watched a news show about Olive oil and it was the same thing - lots of basedbean. I guess the Mafia in Sicily and the cartels in Mexico just aren't trustworthy.
Regardless though, we (my family and I) use Olive oil almost exclusively and in everything except cookies. I didn't particularly like avocado but to each their own.
Avocado is good for cooking at higher temps, and doesn't have a lot of flavor. I use it when making fried rice for that reason. The price is really the worst part, but olive oil can get up there too when trying to buy legit stuff
So is regular vegetable oil also bad for you?
Studies are going to confirm they're safe if anything. Based parents for not lapping up psuedo science bullshit
so if my evoo didn't thicken even a tiny bit in the fridge it's fake right