I've procured all the other things I need but couldn't find a vasoconstrictor. I tried phenylephrine but could not find it at Walmart. Does anyone have some ideas for vasoconstrictors and where I can procure some?
I still plan to record it but need to get this one thing
Tamifodil? Rhino pills?
You're still moronic. List what you got
91% Alcohol
Cotton Balls
Syringe
Lidocaine
Razor
Tweezers
Scissors
Guaze
i notice there is no antibiotics, no needle and sutures. do you plan on cutting your breast tissue out and just leaving a hole in your flesh? are you planning on working in a sterile environment? you arent thinking this through very well
I forgot to list amoxicillin, I also plan to go to the hospital afterwards to get stitched up
Ah, so you plan to drive yourself to the hospital after cutting your nipples off. At least you're thinking ahead, whew!
Dont worry im sure itll be fine bleeding all the way there
That's what the guaze is for plus I plan to do it in the hospital bathroom
They are going to have you committed. No gains in the psych ward, bro.
true, attending will take one look at him and order a psych eval to get him out of there ASAP.
go to urgent care if you want sutures, you'll probably get staples at best. but going to ED will get you committed.
also you're seriously underestimating how difficult it will be to comfortably see that area of your body without a system of mirrors setup.
this is by far the greatest aspect you're underestimating, you won't be able to finish without one.
you'd also have to use different hands for each side, and the incisions you'd make are incredibly small and precise, there's a lot of "blind" cutting that an experienced surgeon would do by touch which you won't be able to do at all, especially without the proper surgical tools and techniques.
also the area you're cutting into has a ton of points of attachment within an inch, great way to completely frick yourself.
Stop acting like this has never been done before, a Google search of "DIY gyno surgery" will yield you a fair amount of results. I'm not doing this randomly I've seen physical proof of this being possible
you have no medical background, you haven't thought it through, you're clearly mentally incompetent.
Survivorship bias
You don't see the people who failed the self surgery
Because they're dead
What %lidocaine? I think the injected shit was baked xylitol or something. You need a surgical tray, too, to put scissors or razor when your done with it or need the hand free. And gloves.
Do a livestream and make sure that you have a comprehensive plan of action for if it all goes horribly wrong - noose, firearm, pills, these things require planning and careful consideration.
What platform would allow me to stream self mutilation lol
If youre planning on doing self operation id wouldnt do it you could easily make it look worse, even actual docs can make it look shit lol.
holy shit just go to a doctor moron, you could work 40 hours for 1 week at $10/hour and have the $400 or however much it costs
Never considered maybe losing 10-20 more pounds and doing a couple push ups each day? You're not exactly in skeleton mode.
Going into skeleton mode would make it even worse lol
i want to see a gyno skeleton.
Shredded gyno looks terrible now imagine that with no muscle
>mfw I look like left right now
that's not necessarily true. most guys only have pseudogynecomastia. and it goes away once you get lean
that's also important to know before you would try this because if it's not real gynecomastia you are not going to have a good time trying to pull 'it' out
also realize the pros have some kind of suction rig and will literally suck out all of the looser tissues as well through the incision. with your setup you will not get any of that.
>OP after hes done
Why don't surgeons ever go across the chest when they cut? So at the very least you get a cool looking scar.
Honestly I’m baffled why this operation needs such big cuts. Couldn’t they do it laparoscopically? Make a small incision under the arm pit or something and snake it all out through there.
it doesn't. the incision is about an inch directly below each nipple
Actual breast removal surgery includes removing the large female breast tissue and then performing a skin tuck so that the skin is tight over the pectoral muscle and the nipple is correctly placed. Otherwise they'd have a floppy sac of skin just hanging there. They do the same gross scars for a tummy tuck after people lose a bunch of weight. All that extra skin has to go and they won't let you keep it so you can craft yourself a wallet.
Gyno surgery is performed around the lower edge of the nipple and the scar is mostly invisible once is has healed. You will also get some small tiny scars where the liposuction canule is inserted (about 5cm under the main nipple scar), and where they will place the draining pumps that you have to wear for 2-3 days after the surgery. Sometimes they place them on the main nipple scar, but that's not important.
To the dumbass OP, if the cost of gyno surgery is too high for you (I know in the US they can charge you 10000USD and up), research some private cosmetic surgeons in Poland instead. The cost of a bilateral surgery was 1400EUR 5 years ago for me including the stay in a 4 star hotel, a private driver to get your bloodwork, the aftercare, etc. Flight tickets also depend on where you are flying from.
It is a simple surgery, but you don't have the knowledge and equipment to perform it successfully. The surgeon will evaluate the contours of your chest and perform liposuction in a way that when the gland is removed, it won't look like a crater. The draining pumps are also necessary because your body will fill the place left by the gland with different fluids. If they are not drained, in the best case you'll get an inflammation that won't go down after the scars are healed and leave you with a lumpy, disfigured chest, and in the worst case you'll get a massive infection, get sick, pass out and die.
A side note: I went from having puffy nipples that showed even under sweaters to a completely normal looking chest in about five months. No one has ever been able to tell I had the surgery, even when you tell them directly.
Now imagine having to give explanations to anyone who asks why you have lumps around your cratered and scarred nipples and telling them "I was unhappy with my body so I thought self-mutillating was the best option". What you think is badass is actually turbo-sperg behaviour and someone needs to tell you before you do something irreversible.
I hope you the best in your body and mind recovery. I truly do.
They're smiling at me
Shocked boobpepe of manteat reduction failure
Don't do it. But hemorrhoids creams are vasoconstrictors.
I have no way of sourcing an injectable version of either of these. Do you have any ideas on how to make them injectable or will I just have to grit through the pain?
Frick, I guess I have gyno
do you uh, know how to differentiate the ductal and glandular tissue from the surrounding subcutaneous adipose? If not, you're going to end up with big scars and big hollow pockets behind your nipples (you have a lot more fat there than you think, even if you are lean).
You need chlorhex or iodine to clean, alcohol will not do.
You need a sterile scalpel and probably some sterile gloves.
You could maybe (not that i've tried because im not moronic) open up an epipen and use the adr with your lig to help vasoconstrict - but do you know the % of your lignocaine and the max dosages before you're going to start getting shaky as shit and getting arrhythmias?
Do you know how to cut so you're not going to be trying to suture across tension lines?
OP, this is not nearly as simple a procedure as you seem to think it will be - I would strongly advise you do not proceed with this, you will in all likelihood deeply regret it for the rest of your life.
From my viewing of actual surgeries, the actual glandular tissue is visibly different in color than adipose. I don't see why alcohol would not be enough, and a Google search provides no significant difference between the two. It's been done by multiple people at home, I am not the first to do this so I think it's a lot simpler than you're making it out to be. Even if I did do something wrong, I'd rather have a cool scar than gyno lol
Have you at least tried to speak with a specialist about your problem?
Before preparing to self-mutilate
>A GOOGLE SEARCH
i tried to be nice before.
snap out of it, c**t. you are being fricking moronic. the reason we use chlorhex or iodine rather than alcohol is basic, basic, preschool fricking knowledge for anyone even approaching doing a surgery. it takes a lot of years to become a surgeon for a reason - it requires a lot of practice and background knowledge.
you are not going to have "cool scars". you are going to have huge deformed pits ugly bumpy pink and red pits full of granular tissue. you are going to give yourself a staph infection, the wound will dihesce because you will ignore tension lines and just carve your flesh like a mongoloid, and if you are at least doing it in a hospital you'll get your kidneys nuked by vanc in the process.
how are you even going to visualise what you're doing? in the mirror? c**t, just stfu.
you wont have adequate pain relief and are going to be in fricking agony only to look like a deformed freak afterwards, and your wrecked kidneys will make daily living way shitter.
if this doesn't convince you - post a video and follow ups because i will genuinely relish in your suffering you moron
>THERE'S TOTALLY A DIFFERENCE BRO TRUST ME
>does not elaborate
stop larping as a surgeon and enlighten me with your supposed knowledge
the uh, clorhex, is your main takeaway here?
did not claim to be, and am not a surgeon btw, far off. far enough along though to know you're a fricking idiot.
>Chlorhexidine gluconate kills a range of Gram positive and negative bacteria, viruses and fungi, and binds
to the top layer of the skin, which results in persistent activity and does not become inactivated in the
presence of organic material.
Povidone iodine kills a range of Gram positive and negative bacteria, viruses and fungi. The povidone
carrier releases its iodine slowly and the iodine kills bacteria quickly but does not have a residual effect.
Iodine is inactivated by organic material so should only be applied to clean skin.
Alcohol kills a range of Gram positive and negative bacteria and many viruses and fungi. The immediate
antimicrobial activity of alcohol is stronger and kills more quickly than chlorhexidine gluconate or povidone
iodine but has no residual effect. Therefore, the strong immediate action of alcohol in combination with
the persistent activity from chlorhexidine gluconate or the slow release of iodine from iodophors is ideal
From my recent suturing workshop.
the tl;dr since you're a fricking moron is that you need ongoing antisepsis and alcohol alone does not provide this. there is a REASON iodine/chlorhex is used.
>verification not required
Cool, tell me how to source it or don't waste my time
just post a video and follow ups anon, i'm done trying to convince you. I will truly, deeply enjoy your suffering you arrogant fricking prick haha
NTA but you're a good man for trying to help that bozo
Verification not required
In your dreams homosexual, I'll be laughing as I save 5k.
>fly to poland
>2 week vacation in beautiful cities and mountains
>get gyno surgery
>fly back
>total cost: $3k
Please don’t do this. Listen to and get a proper surgeon to do it.
This is a joke, right? 5k is not worth saving over the amount of shit that is inevitably going to go wrong here.
If gyno pisses you off, the results of conducting this surgery yourself are going to be even worse. I understand there are videos of people doing this shit themselves; the reality is that most people who do it don't post the results online, and most of the time, it does not end well.
You don't even know what vasoconstrictors to use and you're asking IST of all fricking places for help with this? Are you truly aware of what the frick you're about to do to yourself?
I read through this thread and was going to comment that you're fricking moronic with my reply directed to your OP post. But frick man, this is the most moronic post I've read on this site in a long time. I hope you don't go through with this
>a Google search to save 5k
Forgive us if your mania-fueled "research" doesn't stack up against the advice of people who are either formally educated, following structures of centuries of academic study. Or those with a cursory awareness of logistics or first response care.
Here's what will happen
>you drive to hospital, lose your nerve after the first incision, and come home on shame
OR
>You (almost impossibly) succeed in the first mastectomy, and then have to perform the second with your non-dominant hand. You go into shock from blood loss and viscera, get the shakes, and die of blood loss in the bathroom if they don't discover you.
OR
>You (even more impossibly) succeed in the operation, get stiched at the hospital and then spend months or years in a psych ward, undergoing rigorous anti-septic treatments and probably emergency surgery to fix your hack job. Putting you hundreds of thousands in debt
dont listen to these Black personhomosexuals anon DO IT YEAAAAAAHHH
one thing i learned is to not cheap out on medical shit
I have pictures of my dehisced thigh incision i would post them for op but id get banned on account of the gore
genuine question: why not just get it done professionally?
Because America
Or so I assume
I know about as much as this as you do, but what if they require patients to consume a specific substance that alters the color of specific tissues? It sounds far fetched but it would also be pretty awkward to cut open your breasts to see a bunch of tissue that looks the same
bait
meant for
Why are they eating that food with plastic wrapping still on?
idk women are moronic
Maybe try naphcon eye drops for a topical vasoconstrictor anon. Good luck! Livestream your death as I’d enjoy watching
>be surgeon
>see lots of dumb shit
>here's one now
>guy tried to remove his own breast tissue
>guy looks like he just went digging around pulling out everything
>looks like two meat craters
>"did I get it all doc? I just want my gyno gone"
>yeah. That you did. Well take it from here
>he passes out with a smile
>probably from the massive amount of pain killers and anesthesia
>pectoral area is a wreck
>have to put in implants to keep it from collapsing
>fudge some paperwork
>give him some passable C cups
>mfw
The least evil surgeon in the entire world
Please don’t forget to livestream this whole endeavor.
>inb4 muh >I’ll just post some webms later
You won’t survive long enough to upload anything “after” your “procedure” so it had better be live
Do it homosexual
What a stupid idea
go too a doctor moron
dude please go save up some money and get this done proper
If you need a topical vasoconstrictor Afrin works okay.
>Does anyone have some ideas for vasoconstrictors
cocaine
adderall
LSD/mushrooms
nicotine/tobacco
Are you planning it House style? You should have a back up plan. Reminds me of the webms of guy doing himself lipo and the other guy assembling hinself the pletal stretcher.
this reminds me of the home-dentistry anon who wanted to become alpha chad by drilling into his jaw, lol.
Story?
there was a thread where this guy did a very "invasive" operation on himself. from what I remember it involved cutting chunks of flesh out of the roof of his mouth and then screwing a plate in. Don't quote me on that, though. not exactly his jaw but I think he wanted to make himself get a better chin or something. I saw a screencap of it after. the details of it are hazy so my retelling probably isn't too accurate. someone has the screencap, probably.
He wanted to install paletal stretcher to the roof of his mouth which literally means drilling holes into your palete.
I don't mind videos of heads being cut off with a dull knives or gore in general but this set of, I believe, three webms made me really uncomfortable.
yeah, that's it. crazy guy, I wonder what happened to him.
I need to see those webms
Good luck finding them. I would try /r/ or /gif/, they might get posted here and there.
My gf who is a dental technician by trade, but doesn't work in the field, says these are a child's teeth
It's random pic from duckduckgo.
I hope you die.
morons like you need to be purged from the gene pool.
DO IT OP
don’t listen to the science nerds
you want to have man breasts??? you want every woman to think your breasts are pathetic? TAKE THEM OUT TOMORROW
Can you livestream it lol
I'm kidding
Don't do self surgery
...
But if you do, livestream it
This is the most based thread on IST
Godspeed OP, you glorious bastard.
Posting in historic schizo threa
OP do NOT do this
moron it took me weeks to get good at cutting my own hair and I have three different mirrors I use, yet you want to slice your chest open with 0 practice in a dirty bathroom? lol
Youre only 2 small cuts from the aesthetic chest of your dreams OP
OP i had huge puffy nips they went away almost entirely after i got to 10-11%. Currently sitting at 9%.
I even tried black market raloxofine; didnt do shit. Cutting worked though. Also no ones chest is perfectly flat unless its cold.
What brings a man to do this instead of hiring a professional?
Surely the price of procuring all the tools and medicine can't be that much lower, not even counting the time investment in research and recovery.