I had a T test done and then results came back at 7,85 nmol/l. The test says normal range is 5.7 to 26.1 for men aged between 21 and 49, however internet says the range is closer to 10-35 nmol/l, so that got me worried.
I'm 26, 77kg, go to the gym 3 times a week. Here's some signs for and against deficiency in my life for anyone who's still reading and wants to give an opinion:
>dick works well
>libido through the roof
>very hairy arms, legs
>receding hairline (classic)
>seem to put on muscle well, good gym progress
>diagnosed depressed, easily annoyed and angered, mood swings
>no motivation to go for girls
>no passion in life
>had gyno, got surgery for it but it came back after 8 months or so
>hormonal acne on my chest, back, neck, face, scalp
Do I have a T deficiency and if so, what the fuck should i do, what's the next course of action?
>should I be concerned?
Yes, look into getting on Trenbolone immediately
I had mine at 22 after a grueling cut
Fix your sleep, nutrition and alike and take another test
If shits fucked again then trt is an option
forgot to mention, i get at least 8hrs of sleep every day, i eat (mostly) clean, very little alcohol or sugar, i drink my vitamins and stuff. Seems like I do need some help with my T levels afterall I guess.
10 eggs a day minimum
I had 9nmol/l. The GPs who looked at it and who knows jack shit about hormones said it was normal. The urologist and endo, who specializes on male hormones, said it’s low for a man under the age of 60 and that TRT is recommended to treat the negative symptoms associated with low t.
The rules for prescribing test is very strict in many countries because of the roid rage craze of the 90s. 1 guy on TRT spergs out and commits an act of violence and they raise the bar for everyone. Oh, you’re a 20 year old man with the test levels of the average 70 year old man? Too bad, still falls within the “normal” range
That's what I fear, I told my family doctor about my worries of low T (before I had the test done) and she basically said as long as my dick works there's literally nothing to worry about or even bother testing. That made me think I could be on the very lower end and nobody would even care to treat it as long as I'm not literally turning into some non binary being.
A single T test is a worthless point of data. Your natty testosterone varies throughout the day. Stop falling for big pharma scams and coping.
I agree with you, but combined with context it is valuable and made me worried. That's why I'm asking around for more opinions, not immediately purchasing dodgy tren supplements or some shit.
When people talk about their measured serum levels they are obviously talking about peak serum levels taken early in the morning. You think people just show up to the lab at random times?
It doesn't matter. It's going to vary a lot from one day to another too.
Vary by 5-10% at most. Even if OP was given a 20% boost to his peak serum levels he would still have the same test levels as a 60-65 year old man. That is not normal and warrants medical treatment
Is there any way to increase T in the normal range without resorting to literal /fraud/?
Sleep and diet are the most important ones.
Only legal supplement I can think of that isnt a scam and which naturally raises test is tongkat ali. Has been shown to increase test levels by anywhere from 20-200%. You could try it for 12 weeks, take another blood test and see what percentage increase you got. If you only got a little bit then it’s probably not worth the money
7.85 is pretty bad, research how to improve your lifestyle and diet and do another onr later
For reference, im just your average guy and i worried about being low T. My diet and lifestyle were average, sometimes crap. Ive a belly gut and often do stupid shit like binge eat or drink. I get masculinity mogged by atleast half of men but i was 17.7 which is the higher end of average
I get 8hrs of sleep minimum, my diet is pretty clean (little alcohol, no sugar, no binging on dumb shit), i go to the gym, not overweight, don't look feminine or "unmanly" either, I drink vit D, C, B12, calcium/magnesium/zinc. Fucking sucks hearing I can't realistically improve it on my own much more.
This. I had the test done at 11am, which is supposed to be right after or during peak levels.
Lots of things can affect results of a particular blood panel.
>time of day
>daft stuff like if you went out boozing the night before
Did the test include both free and total test, SHBG etc? A single instance of testing doesn't really tell you much
>time of day
I was stressed yes, I almost always am to be honest. That could be a factor.
mostly good, clean
>daft stuff like if you went out boozing the night before
I didn't drink, binge eat or do anything out of the ordinary in the morning/evening before
>Did the test include both free and total test, SHBG etc?
Honestly don't know. It was from a reputable clinic, but all the result page says is "TEST", does not specify anything else. Makes me think I should get another test done by another clinic perhaps.
>I had a T test done and then results came back at 7,85 nmol/l. The test says normal range is 5.7 to 26.1 for men aged between 21 and 49, however internet says the range is closer to 10-35 nmol/l, so that got me worried.
Testosterone can fluctuate massively over a short period of time.
>I'm 26, 77kg, go to the gym 3 times a week. Here's some signs for and against deficiency in my life for anyone who's still reading and wants to give an opinion:
>>dick works well
through the roof
>>very hairy arms, legs
>>seem to put on muscle well, good gym progress
This means your testosterone is good. These are the effects of adequate testosterone.
depressed, easily annoyed and angered, mood swings
>>no motivation to go for girls
>>no passion in life
If you are depressed, take an antidepressant instead of shutting your hormonal system down with injections you will have to take forever and have to take anti estrogens and finasteride, and donate blood every 3 months due to side effects.
May I recommend Wellbutrin. It's a dopamine/norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor. It will increase energy, motivation, mood and sex drive. Natural testosterone will likely also go up due to your brain working better (the brain controls testosterone levels).
>>had gyno, got surgery for it but it came back after 8 months or so
acne on my chest, back, neck, face, scalp
This will get a million times worse on testosterone injections. And you will go bald.
>Do I have a T deficiency and if so, what the fuck should i do, what's the next course of action?
Get several more blood tests over a period of time. Start wellbutrin antidepressant treatment for mental health and energy and sex drive. Don't listen to people on the internet saying it has side effects, they are mostly fat american women who take 10 different drugs at the same time and like to complain on the internet.
Don't take an SSRI antidepressant.
I take SSRI's now (escitalopram) and they do help, I was much worse before them in terms of mood and depression. Tried Zoloft (sertraline) before, didn't do anything. Not sure where I could find wellbutrin in eastern EU, I think it's named differently here, however I'd still need to make my psychiatrist prescribe it to me instead of the ones I currently use that work. Makes me worry hopping off from something that does help (albeit not perfectly) to something that may or may not.
The reason I said don't take SSRI's is that I assumed you weren't on anything, and that SSRI's lower testosterone. And they are not the best for increasing energy and motivation. Many people complain it turns them into zombies.
The drug in Wellbutrin is called buproprion. Buproprion is also used as a quit smoking drug , so maybe it's available for that in your country and you can get off label use for depression.
In the USA, wellbutrin is often prescribed to people already on SSRIs who get the negative sexual side effects and energy problems they are renowned for, and the wellbutrin added in can restore sexual function and energy. Anyway its better if you speak to your doctor about these matters.
> If you are depressed, take an antidepressant
reminder that the proposed method by which SSRIs “help with depression” has been unequivocally proven to be fraud.
wellbutrin is not an ssri
time to transition gay
how are gyno and acne for low test? these are the #1 symptoms on roidtrannies lmfao
Honestly fuck retards like you, you do a test with the preconceived notion in your head that you MUST be low test, the test proves the exact opposite, showing you are in the normal range and then you try to bend reality in such a way to justify what you always believed in in the first place.
If you want to blast, blast away and don’t give a fuck what others think but then don’t come back and cry when it doesn’t fix your problem of being a pussy ass bitch.