Should unhealthy fdood be taxed more to dissuade people from buying it?
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Should unhealthy fdood be taxed more to dissuade people from buying it?
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no. i enjoy sweets, but i shouldn't have to suffer for it because some lards can't control themselves. public fat shaming and bullying should be more common
You are probably pro abortion and drug legalization too?
I would shoot lots of pregnant mothers with a shotgun since I'm not a fake and gay christroon larper
Its just a question. Why are you so angry
yes and yes i don't enjoy having uncle sam's dick rammed up my ass and able to control my everyday life and decisions. i'm guessing you do
I am pro-abortion & anti-choice.
>YES DADDY GOVERNMENT PLEASE MAKE ME SUFFER AND PAY MORE TAX MONEY, I LOVE BEING EXPLOITED FOR ASININE IDEAS THAT DON'T IMPROVE ANYTHING YES YES YES YESSSS PLEASE
Hey, that money could be spent on gender studies classes in Pakistan instead of being wasted on paying bills or some other stupid crap.
Yes. It worked for tobacco.
Imagine being so fat that after stuffing your face with 7 kilos of doritos a day, the thought that it could have been 8kg if it wasn't for a tax causes "suffering" in your mind.
>Imagine being so fat that after stuffing your face with 7 kilos of doritos a day, the thought that it could have been 8kg if it wasn't for a tax causes "suffering" in your mind.
Any food can make you fat moron
>MMMM YESSSS DADDY GOVERNMENT, TAXES ARE SO BASED, I LOVE IT WHEN YOU STEAL FROM ME, RAWR DADDY HIT ME HARDER WITH EXTORTION
Both issues solve themselves in a generation so why not?
What even is this post
Both groups have a genetic disposition to behavior that lowers their chances a reproduction. Just let it happen. Instead of banning it and allowing those genes to proliferate in secret.
Unlimited drugs if you get snipped.
Abortion and drug use are memes though, in the original sense of the word. They're behaviours that are spread and replicated by ideas, not genetically.
I am not that guy but I absolutely am.
I’m pro abortion for minorities only
I generally don't care what Black folk do as long as they stay out of my yard.
Only pro-abortion for Black folk and israelites.
This. I would rather see every fat person killed than be inconvenienced like this.
So you would pay extra if Coca Cola decided to increase their prices because they wanted more profits, but you won't pay extra because the government wants to fund healthcare?
As an occasional enjoyer of goyslop who can "control himself" surely a price raise would affect you minimally, but could be enough to discourage a fatty
Taxing or criminalizing fatness is just a better idea.
I agree. I would settle for just making obesity socially unacceptable again, though
Coca cola raises prices = money goes to coca cola so they can make more tasty soda
Government raises taxes = money goes into the pockets of fat israeli politicians and into the military-industrial complex to make more blood money by making young people blow their legs off in some middle eastern shithole
Being a bootlicker with extra steps doesn't make you sound smarter, just more pathetic.
On one hand it seems to work in cases like Japan and Denmark, then again those places also have other reasons they curbed obesity, Im not American but I know the infrastructure there's different and things like cycling/walking/public transport are used less than common car traffic, and I do agree with in that us healthy people shouldn't suffer the price hike for the occasional snack/cheat meal all because of the lards so it'd be a case by case basis on wether it'd work/how people would react, I think as well in those places it's been implemented people eat unhealthy crap less often so paying a bit more might not be a problem since it's a rare treat, but take places like the US (or the UK for that matter if you've seen secret eaters) and I could see people who's diet is largely made up of this stuff to throw a big (pun intended) protest
>healthy people shouldn't suffer the occasional treat
That's the point. They won't. They eat it very seldoma and an extra dollar for a box of cookies isnt going to affect them. Its the people buying 5 bags of doritos, and 6 liters of coke to wash it down that are going to feel the burn
Thats a good point but what about say the ''healthier'' alternatives, like oven/store brand potato chips which I tend to buy more often than I should or diet sodas or the zero sugar energy drinks, I know more processed stuff gets a bad rep but the funds from increasing the prices on the unhealthy products could go to increasing the research put into making better/healthier versions of such foods, always wondered why diet soda tastes like shit while zero sugar monsters taste great
Are you implying that
1. You could make "healthier" junk food
2. It would taste food enough to market
3. People would buy it over the tried and true brand name classic formulas they eat now
4. That's even a remotely reaonable idea for the government to fund private corporations to design their own products in some manner?
*good enough to market
Healthy no, healthier yes, part of this is obviously corporations knowing the unhealthy crap's tasting better and more marketable and it wouldn't surprise me if they were in league with the healthcare professionals who make money off of unhealthy people addicted to slop, but this is purely a hypothetical scenario where a utopian society puts the money and effort into developing foods that taste as amazing as the junk food while having none or at least as few as possible of the negative effects
>but this is purely a hypothetical scenario where a utopian society puts the money and effort into developing foods that taste as amazing as the junk food while having none or at least as few as possible of the negative effects
Why even post? The thread is about legitimate things and you are pivoting to fairy tales
maybe not fully utopian but it's a better explanation I suppose since while I could see governments try and improve the most common snack foods, I dont see corporations doing it, granted I dont see many countries implementing any sort of junk/sugar tax with how much money it makes, unless some sort of fitness based authoritarian regime comes to power which is even more fantastical
You can get fat on flour eggs yeast butter salt sugar proteins and fruits.
Flour is like 9 fricking dollars we need another hitler.
Obese people dont buy flour, eggs, sugar and oil and make their own cookies - they buy chips ahoy.
>literally morbidly obese prople who cook better than anyone else
Yeah no.
Fat chefs never fail and they eat whatever is gonna go bad. I could easily get fat off of what I can cook because I am good at temp control seasoning balance and stocks/sauce.
>t. fatass
you want to eat slop pay the slop tax
But you frickers still eat unhealthy foods and thus are a higher burden on a budget (usa also has public healthcare). Even obese persob can be relatively healthy. While people who eat goyslop, even if their bmi is in normal ranges, are always insanely unhealthy and their healthcare costs are insane.
>Even obese persob can be relatively healthy
Wrong
>While people who eat goyslop, even if their bmi is in normal ranges, are always insanely unhealthy
Wrong
I used to disagree, I've started to think it's the only option to combat added sugar in food. Also, looking at the obesity rates, we need every tool available
Frick no. Don't penalise me because some hamplanet can't exercise a bit of fricking restraint.
Offer up a tax break if you're at a healthy weight instead.
Why not both tax it heavily and give some rebate if are not fat.
This make it a extra fee for insurance too. Not much but just like 5 dollars worth of shame. Use the money for fit propaganda. (Though support the people with actual real non tumbler health issues)
Or make fit vs fat dividends. Tax fat people/unhealthy food. Get classed into fitness levels and get a % of the money that was collected.
Yes
>but i shoulf nof be penalizef because of fats!1!1!
If you eat unhealthy shit once in a blue moon as a treat, like a normal person does, your finances won't even notice that your bi-monthly pizza cost 10$ more.
But if you fill yourself with SLOP daily then you will be fricking ruined financially if you don't stop which is GOOD and THE POINT
Stop eating trash moron, cook your own whole foods and eat them primarily
Feel free to cope and seethe and give me you's in replies
the monetary value isn't the point. just because it's a tax that wouldn't affect me often doesn't mean i should be subjected to it. aside from that, changing monetary value wouldn't affect the end outcome. why don't you ask drug addicts what would happen if their drug of choice went up in price by 100%? guess what, they'd be sucking twice as much dicks for money to get that dope
It makes sense in countries with public healthcare. You want to get fat and ultimately make all of us pay for your fat health issues? Then pay more you fricking fat boy. Same with tabacco.
Doesn't make sense in USA for example.
The US has social welfare programs though. My taxes pay for Medicaid.
Except seppostan has medicaid and medicare, both of which are funded by tax revenue
>laughs in medicaid and medicare
He also forgets the cost of the uninsured also gets passed through things like higher premiums. Lower the use of healthcare services is in everyone’s interest
We should switch to exclusively sales tax on luxury goods and junk food, no more property taxes or otherwise. This way the obese can fund out public infrastructure with Dorito and cigarette sales while I save more money.
No, people who push for taxes should have their rights stripped away and they should be turned into exotic meats.
No, but it should not be covered by food stamps. SNAP should be more like WIC, and with a focus on domestically/locally produced goods.
No, no food shouldn't be taxed at all, it also shouldn't have any nutrition fact labels or expiration dates, shops shouldn't owe you any receipts, cola should have coke in it, and open carry should be legal everywhere, also cars shouldn't require a license to drive them and DUI shouldn't be a crime
We should tax coffee and meat more, this way fatties won't eat unhealthy amounts of slop with processed meat and blow their hearts out with excess caffeine consumption.
Great idea, since there's a universally agreed upon collection of 'healthy' and 'unhealthy' foods that the government will be able to unproblematically find and follow, with no lobbying or special interests involved. Lol, who's definition of 'unhealthy' do you think they'll use? The vegans' definition, and raise taxes on chicken and salmon? The ketoschizos', and raise taxes on potatoes and rice? The Peatards', and raise taxes on bread? The sneed oilers', and raise taxes on some random collection of vegetable oils? The food industry's, and raise taxes on whole fruits and veggies? My guess is, they'd follow some random combination of these that will result in the only 'healthy,' untaxed foods being tofu, peanut butter, olive oil, white sugar, and soft drinks produced specifically by the coca-cola company. good luck on your cut, moron!
No, they should be illegal
Yeah we need to do this, and potato chips
You're already paying "health" taxes in food prices (see: sugar tax), you mongoloid moron. Manufacturers are bypassing this bullshit by pumping foods full of sweeteners and other chemicals, while raising the prices of their products anyway.
Fatties will always find a way to stay fat, no matter what you'll come up with.
Yes. I think all bad decisions should be taxed, including bad financial decisions.
How much should you be taxed for being here
Unhealthy products with alien sounding ingredients are cheaper than simpler alternatives. The same company making potato chips with a laundry list of ingredients including seed oils, canola oil, and any number of seasonings and anti caking agents will sell a product that contains only potatoes, olive/avocado oil, and salt for 3x the price. The point is to price people out of real food. The US is utterly fricked.
No, the government is bloated, wasteful and doesn’t need more money. Just criminalize fatness, it’s literally that simple. If your BMI is over 25 (overweight) and you don’t have abs, you get fined, if it’s over 30 (obese) and you can’t show abs, you get sent to a mandatory fasting and labor camp until you’re a healthy weight. I’d also be willing to accept a basic fitness test (i.e. run 3 miles in 24 minutes) if you want to prove you’re fit but you just don’t look like it.
Yes. Guilty.
There's no such thing as unhealthy food. If you tax soda, you would have to tax fruit or anything else with fructose. Instead we should tax fat fricks directly for being fat and disgusting.
>If you tax soda, you would have to tax fruit or anything else with fructose
Lol what?
Corn is a fruit. Pretty much all soda is made from corn. Besides, most fatties don't even drink soda, they drink diet soda.
You haven't answered the question
What was your self-evident time-wasting question again?
Ah okay, you aren't invested in legitinate discussion. Have a good one.
>If you tax soda, you would have to tax fruit or anything else with fructose
huh so this is what <70 IQ looks like
>huh so this is what <70 IQ looks like
Are looking in a mirror right now?
Black person, fruit comes with 10x the satiation effect that soda does for the same amount of calories
just see how anorexic fruitarians get, for instance
no one is getting fat from eating too much fruit, but you're too dumb to figure this out apparently
>fruitarian
Not even a real thing anymore because it's so fricking stupid. And fruit doesn't satiate shit. Two apples is about the same as one can of soda in calories. I could eat ten apples and still be hungry. You could get way more volume in water with soda that fills you up more than some bullshit apple.
I remember you
When was the last time you actually ate 10 apples (500-1000kcals)? Be honest.
Now think of a time you started snacking and accidentally ate the whole 1000kcal packet of chips, or gummies, or whatever. Its MUCH more likely.
>There's no such thing as unhealthy food.
This would be true if we ignored serving/portion sizes, price, and ease of obtaining. The fact that some of the most cheap and widely available food is calorie dense, marketed as a between-meal snack, is low satiety and comes in a package size that represents multiple "recommended servings", absolutely makes it unhealthy in practice.
Ketolard logic at work. Actually hilarious
yes, salty, sugary, booze, etc.. all should have their own 50% vat, BUT whatever revenue it generates should go straight into healthcare
Yes, but by extension they should tax red meat.
>Should unhealthy fdood be taxed more to dissuade people from buying it?
I don't think consumers should pay the cost. Corporate execs should be executed
>I don't think consumers should pay the cost
That's the point
>I don't think consumers should pay the cost. Corporate execs should be executed
if unhealthy food was taxed more it would be more expensive and have less demand and thus less attractive to producers, so they'd produce healthier stuff instead
No. I don't trust any government to define healthy.
What about unhealthy
But you trust fast food/soda manufacturers?
NTA but soda isn't being pumped into the water supply, i can just not drink it or if i want to, drink it and don't need the government making that decision for me.
It's minor and not something i give a shit about but the government coercively uses taxes like this to get their way, there are plenty of politicians that would tax meat and dairy because it's unhealthy and bad for society according to them.
No, but healthy foods should be tax free
No. Once you take a step down that road it doesn’t end well. You’re trusting them to actually want what’s best for the public. If you’ve been paying attention the last four years you’d have to be the most naive moron on planet earth to believe the government is capable of that.
Without question, yes they should. And healthy food should be subsidized. Basically the exact opposite of how things are in the US. And our health outcomes show how much of a disaster that has been
>if we make meth more expensive, people will stop using it!
Your analogy fails. What I’m saying more akin to raising the price of meth and then lowering the cost of the medications that help with sobriety from meth. Which yes, would decrease meth use
No, but fat people should be taxed more because they use more state resources
YES
verification not required
The demand should be higher and then it should be cheaper unless there is a polyopoly in something like the food or gas industry.
>demand is higher
>price should be higher
The competition for company owners to singlehandedly profit despite their labor peasants overrules basic economic principles. Especially in the current industrial economy.
Lower price for consumers for desirable products trumps anything else. It takes like 1 dude to butcher enough meat or sort vegetables and herbs for 100 people easily.
What you're looking at is dreidel spinning israelites using government fines and regulations to make a profit to ser their own price because they're lazy and as bright as a 10th grader.
>It takes like 1 dude to butcher enough meat or sort vegetables and herbs for 100 people easily.
You have never worked have you
1 chicken a day is more than most people eat but let's call it 2. It takes a skilled individual maybe 1 minute to fully break down a chicken. 200 a day is not difficult.
I thinks its telling how you changed the animal from a 1000 pound animal to 5 pound animal to make your aphorism even remotely plausable, and how you didnt answer the question
Beef is 20 minimum for custom weight steaks and out the ass for discounted cheaper cuts so it doesn't go bad. It's also expensive as all shit and is more something they do for steakhouses with 12oz 16oz etc.
More than half the cow is something a steakhouse would sell, the rest is for people who can cook a chuck roast better than some moron with a grill or pan and online recipes.
Saving healthcare money by making people healthy is a non starter.
Healthcare expenses are always highest at the end of anyone's life. The older you get, the more cost you incur
It would be more economical to make everyone take up smoking and heavy drinking when they near retirement so they die shortly after 65
That’s not accurate. Healthcare costs are highest for chronic disease patients who for example are treated for problems with obesity throughout their lives for 20-30 years until their body gives out. And having someone start smoking or drinking shortly before retirement won’t help. It often takes a decade or more for people to die from that. And during that time they drain medical resources
Why not just kill people for being unhappy like Canada?
Fat people should be taxed. You should be punished for being fat and at a certain weight it should be a criminal offense where you are put in prison and given no food until you're skinny.
Frick these gays trying to punish everyone else. I will drink and eat whatever I want
Wheatpeasants are more buff than ricepeasants, i expect an answer as to what mechanism allows such gains and why also africans have to swat flies while white Black folk are forced to pit up with their incessant Black africanisms.
its only good in theory
in reality the government would extend the tax to other foods it deems bad, eg dairy and meat
Sure we should, but ~~*they*~~ will just end up taxing meat as soon as the precedent is set.
Meat is heavily subsidized
It is for now, but there has been a political push against meat for awhile. They are coming for meat as soon as they can.
I highly doubt it. Its one of those things that they always say is on the cusp, but never materializes
I hope you're right, but a lot of countries are already taking action against their meat industries.
Sure. "Sin Taxes" have been proven to work.
But how about taking a step back and simply reducing the number of government subsidies that benefit farmers? Get rid of all the shit promoting corn production, which results in ridiculously cheap corn syrup, which ends up in everything.
Food should probably cost at least double what it currently does in the United States.
>Should unhealthy fdood be taxed more to dissuade people from buying it?
commie logic
Ask a smoker if making something super expensive makes them stop then go with him to see the school his addiction payed for
They'll tax meat next.
I doubt taxing soda will make any difference. Those fatties will just spend their extra $2/day and not notice a difference.
If you make trash food a luxury product, morons will buy it even more, specially women.
but soda isn't unhealthy
no
just end the subsidies
no because who determines what's healthy?
sugar is perfectly fine source of energy, even preferential to most other carb sources in most circumstances. eventually the world will realize they were duped into demonizing sugar. unfortunately that probably won't happen in my lifetime.
first they came for the alcohol, and nobody said anything. then they came for the tobacco, and nobody said anything. then they came for the sugar, and still nobody said nothing. next they'll come for the meat, but who will be left to defend at that point?
>because who determines what's healthy
Reality
your view of reality is not your own. you are just a vessel to portray the propaganda you've ingested over your lifetime. you've never formed your own opinion on anything.
but please, go on and hit your talking points.
Ok man
>Should unhealthy fdood be taxed more to dissuade people from buying it?
The only thing that should be taxed more is people who have children. People who create more useless eaters should have to pay double income tax.
Also, welfare and social services should only be for people who don't have children.
The gibs system is designed completely backwards. The system rewards people who have no discernment.
Gibs should only be for adults without children whose parents failed them (the reason why they are on gibs in the first place).
>Punishing the whole for the sins of the few: The Post
As a Fatty, I take it unkindly to punish the normies and the fit for my shitty habits. Also we're fricking taxed enough already as it is in North America. Europeans don't fricking eat anything bust dust and sand imported from the middle east, africa and china. applying this tax in africa is fricking moronic and would only incite a new wave of conflicts and rise of new warlords. South America? taxing a continent that is already being taxed/robbed of everything is just begging for a new set of free helicopter rides businesses to pop up.
asia? they can't fricking afford rice, let alone sugary stuff. a nice flat 0 income made with that tax. may as well wipe your ass with the bill paper the tax proposal is written on, homosexual. South-East Pacific? you're just going to be called a cun, get taken the piss out of on a multinational scale and be told to pound outback sand.
>meat section at supermarket
>waiting in que
>bulkmaxxed bloatmaxxed middleaged mother with 2 kids
>"hmm ill get that and that and 5kg of this"
>bought enough food to feed 10 rottweilers for a month
I ended up standing there for 15 min until that spermwhale got her bulking season groceries
Fat people should be barred from entering stores and buying food
>taxed
For what purpose? To line the pockets of corrupt politicians and companies? How fricking underage are you to think taxing goods does any good, lmao.
>should we give israelites more money?
no