>single handedly solves upper body
Why is there no lower body equivalent??????????????????
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Uphill sprints and cycling.
Ez.
Running was invented 300000000 years ago
>rings
worse than bars
>t.powershitter
>t. dyels that think they're unlocking some kind of esoteric lifting powers by doing pull ups and dips on rings
kek, it's always the dyel poorgays in their first year of lifting doing this
>exercising is not effective unless you buy a $10.000 powerlifting gym for your home
post body
lol
lmao even
The equivalent is kettlebells.
Both are good but overhyped
??
>needs a proper flooring
>needs a big ass rack
>needs a barbell
>needs barbell clips
>needs like 20 pairs of varied weight plates
>needs extreme and meticulous planning for le progressive overloard
>vs
>take these wood rings and attach some polyester straps
>hang the straps on literally any sturdy and stable support then do some light height adjustment
>proceed to do your reps with no more needed
barbells don't belong in a minimalism thread t b h
You're actually moronic.
minimalism outside of aesthetics is just a euphemism for poverty
>minimalism thread
Aka moron/poor gay containment zone
If you can't afford at least a gym membership your opinion doesn't matter
There's nothing more minimalistic and efficient than a gym membership.
>extreme and meticulous planning
You’re a mouth breathing moron and you have no muscles
All these problems are easily solved by not being poor
All calisthenics programs face the same problem in that anything other than basic pullups and dips require jumps in difficulty from one step to another so you'll have to train in the gym sooner or later or come up with convoluted workout programs
>barbells don't belong in a minimalism thread t b h
You need more than just the bar?
Your shoulders, traps and erectors are upper body and very important for esthetics and strength. How do you train them and progressively overload with rings?
>shoulders
Pike/handstand pushups (don't really need rings, but you can use them for additional challenge)
>traps
Inverted shrugs
>errectors
back levers
Nah, dumbells mog for the purpose of being an all-in-one tool.
Problem with handstand pushups is they can't be overloaded. An inverted shrug is too easy it's essentially a bodyweight shrug. Can i see your back lever video? And what about people who aren't 60kg manlets who will never be able to do these tricks?
Why do you need to 'overload' handstand pushups? Can you do at least a few of them?
>Can i see your back lever video?
I don't train for it, have me some kettlebells at home.
You don't need to be
>60kg manlet
to do all those basic movements, lmao.
A backlever is not a basic movement, a bodyweight shrug is both too easy and can't be overloaded, Handstand pushups can be hard if you're very heavy and they can't be overloaded if you're too light. The reason you need progressive overload is the same reason every calisthenics bro i know is a lifetime intermediate. I did not ask you what lifts you skip, you said you can train whole upper body with rings. I prove to you now you can't
>you said you can train whole upper body with rings
Didn't say it, but you can.
>b-but you can't overload it and/or it's easy/hard
But you can train it.
>I prove to you now you can't
That's not how it works, midwit.
>lifetime intermediate
What's wrong with that?
If you aren't competing(and subsequently gaining something of value), what's the point of spending all that energy and time to be more than that?
>Didn't say it, but you can.
Well you, OP, said it. If you're not OP you can clarify.
>But you can train it.
No you can't. By that moronic logic just flailing your arms around is also training at ~0% intensity but it is. It's extremely disingenuous.
>That's not how it works, midwit.
It sure is, you're the fedora tipping calisthenics bro not me, midwit.
>What's wrong with lifetime intermediate
jfl.
>what's the point of spending all that energy and time to be more than that?
because you will still have to spend the time and energy to maintain your dyel form anyway. Might as well actually progress, you're not gonna look Ronnie Coleman natty so don't give me some dyel excuses you want to be intermediate, a natty intermediate is a fricking joke. You're probably too intimidated to join a gym. This amount of dyel mental gymnastics cannot be explained any other way
>By that moronic logic just flailing your arms around is also training
Bro, you literally push and pull your bodyweight during good Pike/Handstand pushups and Shrugs.
>you will still have to spend the time and energy to maintain your dyel form anyway
But less and it's easier to get back into it.
I was gymming for a while, until I realized that bigger numbers aren't necessarily beneficial to me or my body.
>Bro, you literally push and pull your bodyweight during good Pike/Handstand pushups and Shrugs
And that is not enough, the traps have the best leverage for lifting weights they need very heavy weights to be stimulated at all.
>But less and it's easier to get back into it.
you're a casual, you'll fit right in with the rest of the dyels on this board. Feels like the only people who lift post on plg only, homosexual board
post body
If you can't progressively overload an exercise in a simple manner, it's useless in the long term and can only serve as an accessory that doesn't serve a purpose. Aka, the exercises you mentioned are a meme.
That's why all the twinks doing archer pull ups and pike push ups are small and weak, also mostly manlets. Not to mention that on some of these exercises you increase your risk of injury for no real increase of reward.
All these exercises you mentioned can be easily replaced with barbell movements that can be easily progressively overloaded and will yield much better gains.
Sorry bro, your little tricks aren't really cutting it.
>it's useless in the long term
Everything is useless in the long term. You can't constantly progress(and don't really need to).
What muscles do you use to keep the lower back in straight line in the air?
the whole load during a back lever is on your upper back, abs and delts, it's a shit exercise for lower back
you'd know that if you actually did it instead of theorycrafting like a redditor lmao
thanks for proving yet again that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
Those aren't the muscles that used to keep the lower back in straight line during back lever. Try again.
>t. has never done a back lever
>Those aren't the muscles that used to keep the lower back in straight line during back lever
You're thinking about the lats, moronbro.
>Everything is useless in the long term
Strawman.
>You can't constantly progress(and don't really need to)
Another strawman.
Try actually addressing what I said next time, mouthbreather.
>look I learned a new word in 2024
Not an argument.
>The primary mover
The primary mover during deadifts is ass, doesn't mean that other muscles are not involved.
>posts the picture of front lever
>The primary mover during deadifts is ass, doesn't mean that other muscles are not involved.
So you want to train lower back by performing a movement where the primary mover is not the lower back kek.
I accept your concession, buddy.
>hurmrmrmdurmmmm I'm gonna train biceps by doing deadlifts durrmrmm
>The primary mover during deadifts is ass, doesn't mean that other muscles are not involved.
Thanks for agreeing that back levers are not a lower back exercise, then.
Just did a set of these bad boys after around 2 years of not doing them at all. There's genuinely more abs activation than lower back activation on those, lol. You just have to accept that you're wrong on this topic, anon.
tl;dr - they work abs more than lower back
t. I pull
>5'6"
We don't sign our posts here, anon.
Got a chuckle from me ngl
>oh no i am getting mogged! what should i do!?
>should i compliment him and use his progress as basis to know i can reach even higher myself!? no!!
>i know!!! i will strawman his height!! that will show him!
so many lanklets have a femoid mindset, why is that? the gym is supposed to be a place where all men are equal
most of the time it's just manlets projecting their insecurities onto other people
182cm emperor of manlets, actually.
Thanks for letting me know you're irritated, lol.
i'm taller and not dyel cause i lift kek good for you looking small in a medium shirt tho
my uncle works at nintendo
>posts cope
stay dyel i guess
>the joke
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>your head
calm down pajeet
That's a weird way of telling me you're mad for some reason, lol.
>t.
>gets to be in emirus presence
god damnit life aint fair
calm down rajesh
frick off asmon go eat your mold
reminder that asmong fricked emiru's tight mystery meat mutt pussy with zero effort
post body
>t. fat powersharter
>There's genuinely more abs activation than lower back activation on those
no there isn't
I'm trans btw if that matters
yeah only a troony would claim there is more ab activation in a back lever than lower back activation
I'm schizophrenic and I talk to myself as you see btw if that matters
you mean between back levers?
huh?
>everything is ueless bro
>that's why I've been coping and seething and arguing about calisthenics in this thread since yesterday bro
>NOOO YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DEFEND YOUR OPINION
>YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LET moronATION SPREAD FREELY
I'm doing it for (You)
>everything is useless bro
>that's why I'm gonna defend my opinion and cry about people not agreeing with me bro
Who are you quoting?
>what's the point of spending all that energy and time to be more than that?
What's the point of spending all that energy and time to stay mediocre and DYEL?
>all that energy and time
It takes significantly less energy and time to be "dyel"(aka athletic and fit person, outside of IST) than training to be a forklift machine(without actually working as a forklift machine).
>It takes significantly less energy and time to be "dyel"
That's just a skill issue on your part, sweetie.
>Why do you need to 'overload' handstand pushups? Can you do at least a few of them?
Handstand push ups from floor are extremely easy and when I was able to do 10 of them I wasn't able to overhead press LMAO 1pl8. On rings they are harder but there is a guy in insta who does them with 20 kg added and overhead presses 90 kg, which is good, but not that good to say rings solve anything.
>Handstand push ups from floor are extremely easy and when I was able to do 10 of them I wasn't able to overhead press LMAO 1pl8
ye i dont believe you
unless your weight is literally 50kg lol
Post your HSPUs and OHP then
Handstand pushups have pathetic ROM in comparison to OHP if you don't elevate your hands, it's not hard to believe.
>back lever
>I don't train for it
so you don't even have a fricking idea what you're talking about lmfao
I have nowhere to hang these
I fricked up my right shoulder with regular dips on straight bars. Started doing ring dips recently and after a few months I started noticing how my shoulders are starting to feel better.
Can I learn to use rings by myself if I'm DYEL with fricked joints and lower back? I tried them last week and the owner was constantly correcting my form. Even my hold was wrong somehow (I stuck out my chest too much or something). They felt great on my shoulders and wrists thoughever.
My strength level is 6 strict chinups and 45kg seated barbell OHP x 5, but my triceps development is close to 0 because I haven't been able to isolate them without my right elbow feeling fricky.
Can you do Parallel bar dips or Push-ups with narrow/diamond hands?
I started using the rings by following the Reccomended Routine on reddit, without any coaches or anything. You can find there some form clues for basic movements, it shouldn't be that hard to get used to it after a while.
My elbows are popping whenever they go beyond 90 degrees and get inflamed when I try to do some triceps isolation work(only cable pushdowns feel alright), but it's not particularly noticeable during the Ring dips.
>dips
No. I'm working towards them with negatives and a band. Until last month I couldn't get my right arm in position so I avoided them entirely.
>diamond pushups
Yes, no problem with these. Can't tell you how many I can do because right now my wrist is flaring up badly, but it's at least 2.
>Reccomended Routine
Gonna check this out. Thanks anon. And take care of your elbows.
post body ring gays are always dyel
Barbells weaken your smaller stabilizer muscles. Ask any homosexual who can’t bench their max with dumbbells. The bar takes a huge amount of strain off of your stabilizing muscles, what you might call your smaller and dexterous muscles.
There are no "smaller and dextrous" stabilizers, it's the same big muscles you're using to lift weights, but you are using them with conjunction of antagonistic muscles to keep the weights on a correct path, which takes away from the total power you can produce.
It's not a bad thing, just different.
>muh stabilizers
don't exist
>can’t bench their max with dumbbells
that's because with barbell you can press with your muscles not only strictly vertically upwards but at different angles and barbell will still move upwards.
I sprained my serratus hard when I tried arnold pressing after using barbells exclusively for almost a year.
Arnold press and barbell press are just two different exercises, nothing to do with stabilizers
Do a one-arm snatch with dumbbell vs barbell and tell me which one requires better stabilization, you dumbass,
greater coordination demand == greater hypertrophy
barbells are far superior to dumbbells in basically every way
wanna traing quads? barbells are better
glutes? barbell
hams? barbell
spinal erecotrs? barbell
triceps? barbell
biceps? barbell
calves? barbell
upper back? barbell
lats? barbell
pecs? barbell
forearms? barbell/dumbbell no difference
shoulders? dumbbell, but barbell upright rows are good too
>triceps? barbell
>biceps? barbell
>upper back? barbell
>lats? barbell
>pecs? barbell
Uh, no.
It's hard or impossible to isolate those muscles with fixed arm width and position.
>skull crushers
>hammer curls / rotated
>reverse flyes
>bench assisted unilateral rows
>flyes
What about dem glootes?
> - I can do X
> - I don't believe you
> - Post YOUR X
???
skull crushers are better with barbells
hammer curls are unnecessary and supinated barbell curls mog them for biceps
barbell rows are better than reverse flys for upper back and they're also peak for lats
flyes suck
no
nuh uh
glutes are for queers. the only reason to train lower body is to not look unbalanced. I recommend doing as few sets as possible.
So you are weak and only have muscles for show, got it.
You don't have to do deadlifts to know that it trains posterior chain.
I just have better exercises for that, so I haven't really tried to achieve it yet.
No, I don't think I will.
So you're just a dyel that is talking about exercises he can't even perform KEK, got it.
>You don't have to do deadlifts to know that it trains posterior chain.
except a back lever isn't even an exercise that targets lower back
thanks for proving again that you don't have a fricking clue what you're talking about lmfao
The primary mover in horizontal pulls are the lats and delts, as the other anon already said. The weight of the movement rests mainly on the muscles responsible for keeping the hinge of the lever in place. In the case of both the front lever and back lever it's the lats and delts. Your lats will give out much sooner than your lower back, that's why you won't really feel your lower back on a back lever, since it's not worked hard enough during one. You might cheat the movement by grabbing the bar with a narrow grip and locking your lats in place with your arms, but at that point it becomes a scuffed reverse hyperextension. At which point just do a hyperextension instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.
tl;dr - back levers work lats, not lower back
t. I pull
based leveranon, hook me up with some progression senpai
Bands, partials and negatives combined with weightlifting. Romanian deadlifts are really good, since they work your whole back. Also some form of rows with focus on rear delts.
I personally know guys that achieved (not perfect) front levers just by doing a lot of rows and deadlifts.
neat
how long did it take you to do statics?
Hard to say. Back lever was always easy for me and I never trained it directly.
Front lever took me somewhere around 8 months of solid work, but I could've probably done it quicker if I programmed my workouts better.
unironically good form, good job anon.
>that ghetto DIY backyard gym
SOVL
>???
It just shows how inexperienced you are
>It's hard or impossible to isolate those muscles with fixed arm width and position.
just grab the bar at a different width, wtf is so hard about this?
>just grab the bar at a different width
There is a reason that W/Swiss/EZ/ barbell exists. If you can't grasp a simple concept of different muscle activation depending on the rotation of arm, then I'm not even sure what to tell you.
>owwwwieee I need a specific tool or my handsies hurtttt and my sensitive muscles don't want to activate :~~*
> - barbells are far superior to dumbbells in basically every way
> - except when they are not
> - hurr durr you should man up
It's okay to be wrong.
>aiiiiyeeeeeee I need my comfy grippy or my gains say goodbyeee I'm so weak :~~*~~*(
For lower body it's a combo leg press/leg extension machine.
I meant leg curl/leg extension
just got one of these for 25€ and it's great.
most people don't have a place to hand the rings.
those mess up your door frame, also you hang rings from pull-up bars.
These are great.
>those mess up your door frame
No they don't. Even if it did eventually, are you really that afraid of putting up a new door frame? Shits not even hard
I use rings and kettlebells because I'm cheap and I have little space and I'm not afraid of admitting it
if you can change your door frame you can also bolt something to your ceiling to hang the rings
It's good if you don't have money for anything else, but I'd just go to a calisthenics park in that case
There is it's called a barbell.
A pair of 24kg kettlebells solves lower body, with enough volume.
Shut up moron
no amount of volume will change the fact that you need to be within about 3 reps to failure for a set to not be a waste of time and that sets with more than 35 reps are shit for building muscle, so, unless you literally weigh 40kg, 25kg kettlebells do not solve anything
Well, it's a good thing that you don't really need to build a lot of muscle on legs. Unless you want some gayboys thirst for your unnatural drumsticks.
Hundreds of swings/snatches will build a solid posterior chain.
Also pistol squats with kettlebell are goated.
>calisthenics (DYEL) thread
>not 1 (one) body posted
as expected
still no bodies posted rings and calithenics confirmed dyels kek
They never post body because it's just poor shitskins
>calisthenics (DYEL) thread
>only the guy shitting on calisthenics posted body
Ahahah, this is actually embarrassing
There isn't?
>rings
ewwww
Rings are just poorgay cope
just grow up fat dude. ever seen a fat or ex fat with small calves?
There is.
dudes will drop $50 - $100 a month on a gym membership but won't buy a power rack for $400 that'll last them years
>minimalist leg equipment
2 plyo boxes + loading pin + plates + handle
allows you to do "ukranian style" deficit deadlifts or squats, or you can use another carabiner/chain to lengthen it so it's not at a deficit
can do as much weight as you want
all pieces are very versatile, so huge bang for your buck.
another option: a resistance band/board/bar system. Very little footprint and you can do many exercises on it. Can scale infinitely if you get heavy bands and/or combine many bands. Deadlifts feel great, but squats are a bit iffy.
Man, this looks like a suicide machine. At least weld some shit together.
Stairs, uphill, or box jumps.