S(n)eed oils should be avoided, so what oils should be used?
>Extra Virgin Olive Oil (for dressings, not cooking)
>Olive Oil (for roasting, but not frying)
>Avocado oil?
>Peanut oil?
>Coconut oil?
>Crude oil?
what others?
S(n)eed oils should be avoided, so what oils should be used? >Extra Virgin Olive Oil (for dressings, not cooking)
Go join your crazy plebbitors, you batshit insane keto FUD shill
Olive oil and butter. Simple as. Stop complicating things
butter causes clogged arteries.
The 1990s called and they said you have their marketing pseudoscience. Give it back and come enjoy the understanding of modernity.
They were correct in the 90’s
Look at what sneed oils does to a man. Ten thousand yeeeeeearz man eats butter with no issues. Suddenly, upon the invention of industrial sneed oils does it become bad and sneed oils good. Meanwhile, those who consume the most industrial sneed oils tend to be the least healthy.
>Ten thousand yeeeeeearz man eats butter with no issues
Hunter-gatherers had heart disease
>Ten thousand yeeeeeearz man eats butter with no issues.
You realize that just because people didn't have MRI machines in the 1600s, that doesn't automatically mean that what they were doing caused no ill health effects, right?
I don't actually care. I also don't believe it, but I just don't care. Butter makes the best fried eggs and I will not stop stealing it from Kroger and cooking with it.
Olive oil as you said, perfect.
Butter and animal fat, even stuff like spray-on wagyu fat is good.
Olive oil
Lard
butter
Avocado
Coconut oil/butter
>Lard
No unless it's high quality, otherwise it's high in PUFA. Now you know how stupid someone that says lard worsens mice health because of saturated fat is.
>Not a single controlled clinical trial has demonstrated any hard outcome benefit.
No, there are, fatty liver trials come to mind but it's just at face value when the 'benefits' are seen.
whats wrong with PUFAs?
>S(n)eed oils should be avoided
Weird how the scientific literature says they are healthier than most other fats. Very weird.
The scripture is clear, the seed oil sacrament absolute, praise Fauci
Did you get your newest booster, science denier?
Not a single controlled clinical trial has demonstrated any hard outcome benefit. Multiple studies have shown they kill people or cause cancer
>Multiple studies have shown they kill people or cause cancer
No they don't
I mean whole systemic review/meta analysis have been done showing replacing saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat improves LDL. Don't know why you think this evidence isn't acceptable
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121943/
>> Unsaturated fatty rich oils like safflower, sunflower, rapeseed, flaxseed, corn, olive, basedbean, palm, and coconut oil were more effective in reducing LDL-C (−0.42 to −0.20 mmol/l) as compared with SFA-rich food like butter or lard. LDL-C predicted differences based on their fatty acid composition showed that each 10% of dietary energy from butter replaced by unsaturated fatty rich oils (−0.31 to -0.22 mmol/l) were in line with findings from the NMA
You didn't understand what he typed. Lowering LDL doesn't mean anything if CVD rates, deaths, etc., don't improve and the best RCT (LA Veterans Administration Hospital study) we have and the totality of the evidence indicate CVD is probably worsened. You'd know this if you understood CVD and thus, what PUFAs do to lipoproteins.
>LA Veterans Administration Hospital study
??? The veterans study showed lower cardiovascular events for the low saturated fat group. Unless you're talking about the cancer deaths, which has been deboonked a thousand times. You're just being dishonest if you ignore that.
>showed lower cardiovascular events for the low saturated fat group.
Yes, you're right. I shouldn't have phrased my first post the way I did. However we don't know if the oils produced that effect because the high saturated fat group had more smokers and much less vitamin E due to the way the fats and oils were handled. When it comes to cancer, yes, deaths were not statistically significant but they started to diverge at the end of the trial indicating they might have been significant had the trial lasted longer. Considering the nature of the oils, they probably would've been.
Non-CVD deaths were higher in the PUFA group and total mortality was the same except at the end even though the SF group had more smokers and lower vitamin E intake. Regardless, the focus has to be on the totality of the evidence. PUFAs lower blood cholesterol (which is a risk factor at a certain level) but make it much more prone to oxidation (which is what actually causes ASVD) so seed oils probably worsen CVD unless maybe if you have FH and there's evidence for this in experiments where the only change is the type of fat.
>Anon said improves
>Study says "lowers" not improves
So this is the famous pilpul huh, just convince everyone one bloodmarker is the cause of heart disease, and be able to advertise your seed oils or whatever other garbage as heart healthy since it's lowered. Why does the topic of seed oils always bring out such die hard shills willing to die on such a hill as animal fat, the fat that you're made of and which milk is made of, which your body produces on it's own, is bad for you. Anyways, one shekel has been deposited in your account.
t. Vaccinated
tallow and butter.
I love how chuds waste tons of money on overhyped garbage like olive oil because of their unfounded, irrational fear of vegetable oils
I love how chads invest their money into high quality delicious olive oil because of their understanding that soi, corn, and rapeseed oils are industrial byproducts.
whey is an industrial byproduct
Peanut oil is a seed oil.
Here's the final redpill: Cooking is optional.
You literally don't need to do it. It's a hoax.
Unironically true.
You can cure meat with sodium, or acid to kill the bacteria
Love this dude. He started a raw chicken only page about a month ago.
Avocado oil is generally the best to use, but you have to research which brands actually have real avocado oil because a lot of brands lie to you and put other oils and rancid avocado oil in their products. If you live outside of the US you probably won’t have this problem
Avocado oil is also sneed oil btw
tbh saturated fat gives me immediate headaches, heart palpitations, and nausea. starts as soon as it touches my tongue and lasts for hours
Olive oil is a seed oil, depending on how you look at it. Normies avoid sneed because of the production process being disgusting and leaving trace amounts of hexanes, but really the polyunsaturated lipid profile is death and destroys your body. Peanut oil is possibly the worst oil there is, worst one I know of. You can have coconut oil and animal fat. If you desperately miss mayo you can make your own from mct oil which is liquid at room temp.
Olive oil is not a seed oil. You can squeeze olives by hand and have oil.
The brainletism of this board is astounding considering how much research you guys do into fitness. Olive oil is PUFA, which is the main problem of seed oils. If you will consume olive oil you may as well consume expeller pressed canola oil, no difference.
>Olive oil is PUFA
Lol.
Olive oil is ~10% PUFA which is still way too much, and MUFA is also suboptimal and not healthy.
PUFA should be ~4% of fat calories like in beef tallow or dairy fat and saturated fat should be at least 50% of fat intake
So wrong but whatever, nothing interesting here. Fire In a Bottle has made some ridiculous claims about BCAAs and while that doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong in this case, I wouldn't bother with his case.
Listen man you can't call other people brainlets then proceed to call a monounsaturated fat a PUFA.
Olive is a fruit. Olive oil is a fruit oil. Nobody makes Olive oil from the seeds.
>hunter gatherers
Weren't churning butter. So if they did have heart disease it was unrelated to dairy and probably still related to Sneed oils
Olive oil comes from the pulp you idiot.
The seeds (pits) are then reused in the industry to heat pellet stoves.
>gave amounts of hexane
Funny how none of these people give a shit about 30 seconds of car exhaust exposure.
The guys avoiding Sneed oils aren't huffing their car exhaust pipe or seasoning their food with it dumb frick
>Olive oil is a seed oil
Dumb murican, olive is a FRUIT
>Olive Oil
Extracted from whole olives, giant seeds included. Let the damage control commence.
>see pan full of vegetable oil in kays cooking webms
>feel sick
>imagine the pan being full of melted butter instead
>not sick
The body knows what it wants
Dose makes the poison. I think the OG health claims were like a spoonful or two of sneed oil per day when the rest of your fat intake is butter and lard. But more isn't always better.
Something like sesame oil can be used for taste, but rapeseed/canola just taste horrible. I would use them healthy or not if only they made something taste better.
That's why you'll never be a chef like Kay.
I do my cooking with olive oil, butter and animal fat and refuse to think about it any further than that
oils?