So you're telling me I should lift for a decade, waste all my youth just to look like I don't lift in a shirt?
What is the point of natty lifting?
So you're telling me I should lift for a decade, waste all my youth just to look like I don't lift in a shirt?
have a nice day
nattard, mad?
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Here's your redpill:
>deflate back to DYEL within 2-3 months after you stop roiding
>become even more DYEL since every injection permanently fricks up your natty test production
>need to do TRT (basically continue roiding and cruising) to look like a man
>need to take drugs to counter roid side effects (which leads to more side effects)
>roids substitude hard work, so your gains are basically fake since your metabolism, muscle growth and recovery are increased by 500%
>broken dick and norwooding will be the least of your worries
inb4 roidtroon cope posting
>nattards still using the same image who's been debunked countless times
That guy stopped lifting entirely during COVID-19, go on his Instagram and you'll see he's big again.
The same would've happened to a natty, worse even.
Like I've said. Pure cope. Take away your vials, you no longer have any muscle, you have limp dick and mental issues.
Frick off, you insecure subhuman.
ur the one coping here with the same beaten horse being posted every thread
find something new to cope about, nattard
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This is not your grindr.
Ur afraid to show us ur 10 year natty DYEL body?
I gain nothing by pandering to some deluded subhuman online.
its deboonked
>enjoy lifting, find it fun
>but le aesthetics these people are muscular!!
so?
I'll never have as much gay sex as the guys on the right. I should kill myself now.
They're probably fricking their 10th tinder date for the week while nattards are browsing and coping on IST while begging roider's leftovers to go out.
>They're
I'm glad you admitted that you don't.
You're right, I'm natty why would I be having unlimited sex like roiders?
I guarantee you those people who lifted for 7 or 5 years did so very inconsistent with their first 2 or so years being them not knowing wtf they were doing
This. As someone who’s been at it for 15 years, my first 8 or so years was just ego lifting with my buddies from school. Good times tho but I’m doing way better right now.
About wasting time. It’s 45 min a few days a week. Wtf are you wasting?
Maybe the first year they did wrong shit but lifting isn't that complicated, most programs and training achieve the same result.
Diet can be different but at the end of the day if they met their protein goal they should've been bigger, but that's just natty lifting.
When I started at age 15 in my first 3 years I accomplished which I could easily have done in 1 year or so if I re did it. Proper strength program before bulking, proper calorie counting and a solid surplus, proper nutrition, pushing myself properly and mroe rest. It's just how it is. No one is going to start out great unless they have like a parent whose done it but yeah. Most people start their first year or two just lifting with their bros after school or in the garage not even knowing proper form or routine or diet for a while until they find someone to teach them, and they're lucky if that person even knows wtf they're doing, or they find a site like this and can distinguish what's garbage shit posts and what isn't.
Post body unpumped, candid shot shitty lighting/angle, unflexed, unenhanced
Most will look like shit at 5 years lifting under those circumstances. The average lifter gainz virtually no muscle outside newb gainz.
At the end of the day it’s basically worthless to go by internet pics. David laid is perhaps the best example of this. His pictures are absolutely insane. Yet when he stands next to someone in a candid shot or on video he looks completely normal, sometimes even kind of small.
David laid was on roids and it isn't anymore due to hair loss, that's why he looks so small.
Then why roids look like they lift in daylight lightning? Any natty under those circumstances look like dogshit. If anything, nattards are the ones frauding every picture.
i'm the 8 years guy in the op pic, and actually in term of training, I think I was doing pretty ok even at the start because there are so much infos online. the part where I did absolutely shit for probably the first 6 years was nutrition, I didn't pay attention to it (i just ate whatever my mom cooked) i started taking care of it the past 2 years and I feel like i've done more progress in those 2 years than before
so food is the most important imo
why are you trying to convince the nattys and normies to roid?
let them be.
Its not going to change public opinion on roids.
If anything it will get worse because most people are too stupid to do it right.
We're just one viral headline away from further restrictions, customs inspections etc.
>FBI DECLARES INCELS WITH STEROIDS A PUBLIC EMERGENCY AFTER DEATHS, SHOOTINGS, MORE AT 11
Also the more people on roids the less impressive I look. I'm literally one of the biggest guy in my entire country.
I live in the desert in the middle of nowhere but still.
con't:
And if there's any doubt that IST incels will frick up, I direct you to the /fraud/ threads.
All they became were the same stupid questions about gyno, acne and hair loss and "will HGH make me taller" that a simple google search could answer.
Fraud threads became so shitty no one even makes them any more.
Ngl I'm the 3 year guy in that photo and when my QT blonde yoga instructor gf places one of me testicles in here mouth I feel happy that it is the normal size and not that of a fricking raisin
>nattards are now larping with gf stories
Sad
Your life may be miserable.
Sorry to break it to you but mine isn't.
Samegay. Post ur gf pic, DYEL larper.
Now type that without crying.
Not him, but you are a sad being. Face and character are more important than your shitty fake muscles.
You most likely are an anxiety ridden b***h irl that can't hold eye contant or talk to people without stuttering, like an estrogenic prolacatanized b***h you are.
why are natty dyels so obsessed with roiders' balls?
Its the same in every thread
>what about ur balls?
>how big are ur balls
>tell me about ur balls
>describe in detail how your balls are like
Waste all your youth? It's 1hr a day, 5x a week at most, you spend more time playing with you pp
It is wasted time when it takes atleast 10 years for a natty to even look like they lift, you could be slaying prime pussy faster by roiding.
I don't wanna end up like you, giddy. Tripgayging on IST with a pump in every pic (still looking like a flabby manlet DYEL) while getting 0 pussy.
You don't need to be muscular to get women. You're just shit.
You do if you're as ugly as giddy and 5'6
manlets dont need to roid tho.
You can put on 10lbs of muscle and fill out your child-like frame.
And roided manlets just look like angry leprechans
This is not true, I'm 5'6 lifting for 1 year and still look DYEL.
have you tried lifting heavy weights for change?
I can bench 65kg for 8 reps and I'm 63kg myself. Don't deadlift much but 2pl8 and OHP 0.5pl8. I think that's pretty good for my weight
A non fat ass can achieve ottermode in ONE year of lifting looking better than any roidtroon
so let's see your awesome LE BASED ODDERMOWED body, homosexual
I'm a 32 yo DYEL who mogs any roidtroon
Embarassing
Post a non angle frauding, frontal pic like the roider's in op pic (they still mog you, btw). I can angle fraud myself but look like completely different in other frontal pics
Based natty. Ignore the roiders, they'll all just seethe and ape out because of the roids kek
In a shirt
unpumped
candid
3 hours sleep in 3 days on vacation hung over
Let's see the roidtroons
Otter mode aka I'll disappear in a shirt
Ufff forever btfod
To be fair you won't be slaying prime pussy with that face, but you'll be getting something atleast because of the body.
Please make a follow up thread when you’re 40, if you’re still able to.
Kek the natty pic shows the worst of natty lifting who the frick chose the images?
The main problem I experienced in my many years of lifting was the periods of time when I was recovering from injuries or simply taking long breaks due to life circumstances. Of course, lost gains are always easy to recover thanks to muscle memory, but just think of how much time has accumulated when I've lost gains and had to recover them, it's probably several years that I've spent just to get back to the same place I was before.
>an hour or so a day 3-4 days a week is """"wastin muh yooth"""
KWAB