>solves upper body
>solves lower body
>solves mobility
>solves conditioning
Yep, I'm thinking you literally don't need anything else.
>solves upper body. >solves lower body. >solves mobility. >solves conditioning
>solves upper body
>solves lower body
>solves mobility
>solves conditioning
Yep, I'm thinking you literally don't need anything else.
can 1 (one) person post body that does only these
/thread
yes
no one has ever done just this. just like no one has ever done just barbell. at some point in time, someone has trained with dumbbells, barbells, body weight, machines, kettlebell, or whatever. you can't get an example of a body that was forged by one exercise equipment like its some science experiment set in a vacuum.
>you can't get an example of a body that was forged by one exercise equipment like its some science experiment set in a vacuum.
Well....actually...
this guy is dyel
You better watch out, or I'll ape out!
?t=1
oh no a dyel sperg!!
nta but you have body dysmorphia look at that fricking tricep bro
he has like 12 or 13 inch arms max you are dyel if you think that is big
post body
>t. fat manlet
i mogg the frick outta you and the homosexual sword dude frick off
>posts images of some gay homosexual of some gay homosexual site that is supposed to represent him, while he safely cowers behind a larp of a fake persona that isn't him so nobody can every critique the real him
mad cause i mogg you? kek go play with your gay sword while looking like a dyel weeb homosexual
lol
What is that tool you are using, I love just picking up a kettlebell and going to forest and swinging it around myself.
Just a steel rod.
Yes.
>zero core
these bait posts sure are illogical
I see no before pictures. He might be like those callisthenics gays that clearly hit the real gym (and juice)
>I see no before pictures.
And that would prove that he never went to the gym how exactly?
>He might be like those callisthenics gays that clearly hit the real gym (and juice)
Based! of what exactly?
Lol I follow your youtube channel
?
>Just a steel rod.
For some reason I thought it was an actual barbell. Kek.
How much does it weigh? Pretty awesome workout and physique.
>How much does it weigh?
22lbs
GOD almighty! thats a wondeful body
give link to yt with your training
That thing was too big to be called a fitness tool. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron
Black person give us your routine
You are looking at his routine, what more do you need?
Frick I really should upgrade to a metal rod with how much I already swing around wooden sticks for fun.
isn't this set old as frick
when's the next one coming
Define "old"?
he's completely DYEL apart from the biceps and forearms
zero chest, zero core, probably stick legs
>13inch arms
to
>the only thing he has is bicep and forearms
how quickly the tide turns...
I'm not the same guy
being lean doesn't mean you have any kind of core
mirin'
Lmao, you guys are absolutely body dismorphic, this guy looks better than 98% of the population.
98% of the population is dyel as frick and fat stop dick riding and lift heavy weights and you'll see how dyel he is in like 5 years
Did he really gain that physique with his autistic Gut's sword?
https://www.reddit.com/r/kettlebell/
here you go anon
>link to reddit
no thanks
>reddit boogeyman in [current year]
trying too hard to fit in, newbie
reddit lifting subs are where credible resources are actually gathered, not this shitposting cesspit of a board
wrong go back
I checked it out for you. Here's the most upvoted physique.
>tattoos
god im so sick of morons
funny how you cherrypicked that one, but not the actual #1 from the same guy, eh, demoralization troony?
Wow kettlebells can take you from morbidly obese to morbidly obese?
>mocking people who are making significant progress
i understand now, you are a fat loser who never lifted, which is why you're so insecure and obsessed
you're a pathetic mass of lard with zero willpower, and you're jealous of people who actually puts effort in improving
Getting a bit defensive aren't we?
going from morbidly obese to normal doesnt require lifting its diet.
lifting is about building muscle.
what sort of muscle development can we clean when its all covered in blobs of fat?
Nobody ever does. It's just the same homosexuals posting these threads over and over again for their post-purchase rationalization.
Rings are absolutely OP for pull ups and dips and other upper body exercises, but kettlebells are shit. I can think of perhaps only a few movements in which they're superior, but they're definitely the least essential thing.
You're MUCH better off getting a pair of screw-on dumbbells.
Also what this fails to account for is that most beginners will struggle immensely using rings as you need a strength baseline in order to use them for things like dips without shaking all over the place and not being able to do a single rep
>rings
>absolutely OP
lol
Nobody that is natural gets big with rings.
Are you aware weight belts exist?
>weighted calisthenics on rings
Alright for pull ups, absolutely dogshit for dips.
>absolutely dogshit for dips.
why?
He lacks the stabilizing strength and would rather cope than improve upon his weaknesses.
Not optimal at all. Not even about "le stabilisation" meme that all the dyels try to brag about after working out on rings for two weeks, because this is a non-factor after a few workouts.
The changing grip width, the curvature of the rings on the grip, the changing angle of the grip all are fricking up the whole exercise under weight, and the rest of your body follows. Don't blame me if your shoulders or traps decide to go on vacation if you do one shit set.
I did ring dips with 50kg in the past, chuddy. At some point it just becomes moronic, not worth the risk at all. But you wouldn't know that because you're pushing maybe 10kg around kek.
you're not supposed to keep progressing until 200kg dumbass, it's fricking dips, not deadlift
>you're not supposed to keep progressing until 200kg dumbass
Lol
So it went from "hehe he's weak" to "uhmmmmm you're ackshually not supposed to put on too much weight".
Classic.
Define big.
Actual big powerfats aren't using rings at all, because they're too fat and their shoulder mobility is too garbage for calisthenics.
>Define big
Someone that's not small.
There sure are but you would call them "juiced" anyway if they're too big, moron.
Natty lifting and natty calisthenics will yield the same results.
>n-no there are examples
>b-but you would call them juiced anyway
Let me guess homosexual, you wanted to post olympic gymnasts?
you are legit moronic if you think dbs are more versatile than kbs
just say you never used one, it is totally fine to use dbs if you already have them and don't feel like switching equipment
but it is irrefutable that kbs mogs dbs hard
barbell is a separate matter, they're complements rather than alternatives, but at the same time barbell is pointless if you don't go all the way and get a rack, a bench and a significant amount of plates, kbs/dbs allows for proper isolations if you want to stay on the lower amount of weights
>barbell is pointless if you don't go all the way and get a rack, a bench
>Calling others a moron.
Not even going to bother with a proper reply. You've revealed that you know nothing about training.
you won't because you don't have an argument
so take the L, and stop posting already, tourist
it must suck not being able to go back to your safespace since reddit is still closed huh
Post body.
I understand thinking going to the gym is better than buying kettlebells because it’s true, but how moronic do you have to be to buy dumbbells over kettlebells?
Some people want to build actual muscle. Adjustable dumbbells are the best bang for your buck. Simple as.
Are we going to ignore the fact you can buy adjustable kettlebells too? If you’re looking to have a poor man’s home gym you need a pull-up bar, rings, and an adjustable kettlebell. It’s silly to argue dumbbells are better in any shape or form, anon.
Post body.
I’ll do so right after you
I'm the other thread's OP.
shit biceps
Why do you gays comment without posting body?
You first (your actual body with timestamp). Not some homosexual from your gay dating site.
Sorry, literally misread and thought you were the gay who was saying "shit biceps".
Carry on, you look good, and definitely mog the other dude.
That's fine anon and thank you. It gets confusing with all the samegayging in those threads
i know right
just look at this kettlebell hating guy
he got so mad because somebody posted a decent kettlebell physique that he threw a fit and replied to that same post several times
Doesn't change the fact he looks good but his biceps are shit
>adjustable kettlebells
Jesus fricking christ anon, just buy a bunch of weights and bars at that point instead of doing some moronic meme shit.
No different than adjustable dumbbell handles you obnoxious troony.
>shell out money for meme kettlebell
or
>shell out money for a based dumbbell and weights
For the price of an adjustable kettlebell you can buy a bunch of weights and two dumbbell handles. Dumbbells are also more ergonomic and comfortable.
the best advice I can give is to ignore this post entirely because it's so moronic
adjustable dumbbells are extremely valuable compared to a static weight kettlebell, but you can buy adjustable kettlebells
You're a moron, rings are the perfect way to do difficulty progressions with calisthenics. If you can't do full dips on rings you just lower them and stick your feet out on the ground to assist.
You wouldn't even be able to last a split second if you start out fat you gay.
Just don't be a fatass then? lol
That's moronic. You should start lifting as soon as you decide to stop being a fatass, so that you lose more fat faster and build up muscle. You know what's good for working your chest while you're fat? The bench press. Rings can't do that.
You have no idea what you're talking about. You can work chest on rings with pushups and chest flies, even if you're fat.
>he actually expects a non lifting fatty to be able to do a single rep of these
I know what I'm talking about. I started out obese. I could barely do a single pushup. And I'm fricking glad I didn't fall for the minimalist gays and bought a rack, a bench, a barbell and adjustable dumbbells.
wait til you find out you can adjust the rings, moron. You are out of your element, clearly
>fatty tries the calisthenics equivalent of ego-lifting and concludes that it doesn't work
You do know you can just adjust the rings to make it easier, right?
Incline push ups doesn't even need a ring
Yeah and it doesn't do anything.
Rings are unstable by nature you tards. You know what else is unstable? Beginners with zero form. If you put a fatty motivated to lift in front of rings he's going to give up and think this shit is too hard right after the first session. And it is too hard.
Why are you so mad that people lift iron?
Not mad that you lift iron, just pointing out that you don't know the first thing about rings. You clearly know about lifting in general, but you are completely clueless about rings and coping as a result. Why is that so hard to admit?
I have rings and I use them lmao. And I know for sure I wouldn't have done shit with them when I was fat.
You seem to think only advanced exercises exist on rings and that isn't true
>adjust the rings
>fulcrum adjusts and now you're lifting a lower percentage of bodyweight
>exercise is easier now
wow holy shit!
It's either advanced or shit that doesn't do anything in the first place. No matter how you adjust the rings. If you have no stability, starting out with rings will demoralize you, unless you're a skelly.
You sound like a pretentious perma-DYEL.
You're saying incline pushups don't do anything for a fatass and I'm the pretentious one? lmao
Yes, incline push-ups are like benching the bar. And then when you stop doing incline it’s like pressing over one plate. There’s just not enough fine tuning for a fatty.
My point is that all you perma DYELs try to sound different and like thinking you’ve figured out fitness. There’s a reason why you never see any big guy at the gym using kettlebells or only using rings.
Bro you can literally adjust the rings and fine tune the incline. Stability is negligible when doing incline. You don't know what you're talking about and you're coping for being a fat moron who doesn't know how to use the equipment he's talking shit about
Post body skelly
>tfw I have wide hips
is it over?
it's not over baby, between you and me it's just beginning
Jesus Christ you talk like that and you look like that?
post body
see
where is yours
I'm about to go do my rings routine so could you hurry up and show me if I'm mogged or not? No hard feelings either way
anon just because you didn't know rings are adjustable doesn't mean everyone else is also a moron
Adjusting rings doesn't remove the hundred pounds of dead weight a fatty has to bear, homosexual
>rings are the perfect way to do difficulty progressions with calisthenics
lol
dyel hands wrote this
Anon said beginners struggle on rings but I showed that doesn't have to be the case. Care to prove me wrong? Rings allow you to have finer control over the difficulty of calisthenic exercises.
This is a dude that does nothing but calisthenics (supposedly)
You're not going to be ultra jacked, but you can achieve appreciable muscle. If you some external weight, you can do a lot more, no need for barbells really.
>This is a dude that does nothing but calisthenics
So still not a single one that uses kettlebells.
that's my second point, if you have any external weight, you'll be good. Kettlebells are good for lower body exercises because the only calisthenics way to build the glutes and quads is to sprint uphill or do tons of one legged bridges
I do calisthenics exclusively. I enjoy the minimalistic aspect of it. My only equipment are rings and a pull up bar and i train 4 days a week
>dyel with twig legs
exhibit A
i don't see a picture of you mogging him attached to your post
that won't un-dyel him and un-twig his legs tho
See
Sprint uphill, pistol squats, (one legged) box jumps, Norwegian curls, picking up other people or heavy objects, etc.
Kettlebells are an absolute meme, since both both the minimalism and the training efficiency aspects are irrelevant.
furniture sliders are probably the best piece of fitness equipment you can buy considering their price and the amount of versatility they bring. They're like ~$15 or so for 4 of them.
The best exercise you can do with them is called a sliding leg curl, and it is one of the best hamstring exercises you can do.
They are also the best pieces of equipment for core work because you can do a lot more than ab roller workouts with them/
Yeah, there's plenty of ways you can get creative with your workouts, plenty of ways you can train for general athleticism and conditioning, plenty of ways you can do so at minimal cost.
Kettlebells do none of these despite their veneer drawn up by persistent shilling.
You don't even need those to train hamstrings, put your feet on a table, your back on the floor and curl yourself up
As long as you don't claim these "solve" fitness (like that homosexual OP), if you're not serious about getting bigger but just want to look toned, it's fine.
What's annoying is Dunning-Kruger morons thinking they've found the one magical equipment while literally every big guy you see trains with barbells and dumbbells.
Hahahahhahahahaha
Kek at the Black person manlet who got mogged by a dyel on a mongolian basket weaving forum. Post body
Miring. I get that the cultural preference on IST is bigger == better but this body type looks way better imo and this is what I'm working towards. The only note is I'd like my lats to be bigger than yours seem to be, but maybe that's just the photo. I assume you get massive amounts of zoomer pussy with this aesthetic + tattoos.
I do a full body ring workout twice a week (weighted dips, bulgarian dips, pullups, chinups, leg raises) and swim. I HIIT cycle for legs.
Never squatted/benched/DLd in my life.
>Another example that doesn't use kettlebells
Kettlegays lose again.
He doesn't use barbell either, you schizophrenic troony.
and you can tell
All I can tell is he looks juicing
He looks much bigger than scott herman a natural bodybuilder
> esl and delusional
just because you say something doesn't mean its true he looks small but low bf if his goal was to get big he'd use a barbell and i can tell you are dyel cause you think thats roids kek
>called out juicing
I'll take the compliment.
>Kettlegay sees a decent physique and immediately thinks he's juicing
kek every time.
What do you think of?
Nothing.
overcompensating roidtroony
Did I say that he does?
I ain't buying your shit
i get the upper body part
how does it solve lower body though
just use a kettlebell for tip toe and hack squats
Based
kettle bell weight vest
Dips stand chin up stand
Weight hummer weight mace weight sand bag weight balls is all we needed
>those materials don’t work efficiently to build up muscle more bigger
Shut up
DEZ EZ Sparta
You need dumbbells instead or kettlebels
if you're starting from zero, kettlebells are better investment because more movements can be done with it
if you already have dumbbells and prefer saving the money, then you can just stay with dumbbells and just get the rings
>kettlebells are better investment because more movements can be done with it
Name one (1) kettlebell movement you can't do just as well with a dumbbell.
Ah yes, sacrifice swings, cleans, snatches, comfortable front squats, etc just so you can do hammer curls.
Genuis take.
DB swings (swings are memeshit anyway)
DB cleans
DB snatches
etc.
Or just get a barbell and do C&J and snatches with real weight.
>DB snatches
You mean dead snatches, not snatches.
>swings are memeshit anyway
They're cope, sure, but a decent one. It's not optimal by any metric but it does more than enough at being a deadlift ersatz.
>Or just get a barbell
Right, nobody disagrees with that you mongoloid. Not a single person with more than 2 braincells thinks that kekbells are better than a barbell.
Two things though: kettlebells are cheaper and take less space than a barbell; not to mention you'd want to do the oly lifts with bumper plates and then you can't load as much on a BB because they're thicker, so the price difference is huge.
But also doing oly lifts on a kettlebell is just easier to learn.
So yeah, while the barbell is king and anyone who disagrees is a moron, KBs are good enough.
>nobody disagrees with that you mongoloid
>Not a single person with more than 2 braincells thinks that kekbells are better than a barbell.
The guy that makes these threads every day literally does.
>kettlebells take less space than a barbell
A barbell and disks takes up so little space, so they're easy enough to store, and you really only need a relatively small outdoor space that the extra space of a barbell and disks is a complete non-issue.
>you'd want to do the oly lifts with bumper plates and then you can't load as much on a BB because they're thicker
Yeah because you're totally going to be needing to load 300kg+, you absolute dipshit.
>But also doing oly lifts on a kettlebell is just easier to learn
moronic take. The fact that you can get away with having horrible form/mobility with kettlebells. does not make it easier to learn.
>KBs are good enough.
If you're weak and have little interest in progressing.
>A barbell and disks takes up so little space
A power rack and floor protection takes space. Nevermind the "so little space" bit, KBs take even littler space; you are not going to win the space argument except by spewing "then get richer and buy more space lmao".
>Yeah because you're totally going to be needing to load 300kg+
More like 220kg, which is not enough to DL; and if you don't DL and backsquat then why use a barbell at all.
>you can get away with having horrible form/mobility with kettlebells
"can get away" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. But yes, having the difficulty ceiling that much lower means it is easier to learn for anyone willing to correct their form.
>If you're weak and have little interest in progressing.
No, if you can't get a barbell. Do you get off on being a zero reading comprehension moronic autismo on a mission?
Nobody said anything about a power rack and you don't need floor protection outside, moron. Learn to read.
220kg fits on a bar. 300kg fits on a bar. How fricking stupid are you?
You don't learn with shit form and then correct it. That takes more than twice as long, since you have to go through the process of forgetting the shit form that you spent time learning.
>Do you get off on being a zero reading comprehension moronic autismo on a mission?
Says the guy whose entire posts shows he has room temperature IQ and the reading comprehension of a four year old.
How about you actually make an argument and then I'll respond.
Rings are king for upperbody but there's absolutely no bodyweight/dip chain shit that works your legs suitably well. Still not going back to the gym just to squat though. I'll just take the kinobody pill before I do that.
what does kinobody do?
I've only seen him do pylometrics for legs. So a workout could be like 12x3 jumps onto a park bench.
The problem with this approach is that you're not supposed to do *only* pylos. According to Yuri Verkoshansky, the guy who invented pylometrics, you do them along with slow strength work. The strength work is what progresses the power training. One-leg squats are balancing acts and kettlebells are muscular endurance so neither fit. Got no other options though but I did squat 4pl8 a year ago so maybe that muscle memory will kick in. Not going to the gym I never want to see a tripod ever again.
Box jumps aren't plyometrics, they're ballistics. Plyos mean short ground contact times, think rope skipping instead of single attempts.
Also USSR sports science may or may not be propaganda that was intentionally "leaked" to sabotage western athletic progress. Some say plyos specifically were "leaked" to cause knee problems in American athletes. Never trust a russian.
Bulgarian split squats
Idk where that other moron got the idea he built his legs with fricking plyometrics
>posts roidtroony
>but there's absolutely no bodyweight/dip chain shit that works your legs
It's called a barbell
You add weight when doing calisthenics? Like a normal person? Or get some bands?
>but there's absolutely no bodyweight/dip chain shit that works your legs suitably well.
One legged squats, sprinting, jumping, swings.
There is no bw/dip chain shit that blows up your legs to comically bizarre proportions, but "suitably well" is easy.
>"suitably well"
Completely arbitrary. Barbell training is simply better for your legs no matter how you spin it. You can get mediocre legs faster and then maintain if thats your wish.
>that thigh gap
what a bawd
You could say the same thing about lots of things. For example Chuck Norris' wife.
Sure my hamstrings, glute, lower back, quads are going to grow faster with 50lb kettlebell swings and fronts squats.
Sure let's ditch the 300lbs Romanian deadlift and squats, they for sure are inferior.
La moronation as they say in Spain.
Enjoy ruining your body using that much weight, dumbass
>That much weight
Certified DYEL
Embarrassing.
Solid bait. Have a (you)
or you are growing quick, you're surely growing very quickly alright
ugly fat frick
me on the right
>300lbs Romanian deadlift
do powershitters really?
>La moronation
We simply say either:
>eres subnormal
>eres mongolo (yes, "mongolian" aka downie)
how would you even make a long time training plan with that? I get the ring progression through different/ harder excercises but with the Kettlebells? Wow I have to do 100 Squats per set and next time I have to do 120 reps. Seems very fishy
i don't get why this guy is so mad at kettlebells lol
weight is weight, although kbs does require better grip technique
i guess he just got mad filtered because of his trash wrists and went back to the noob and moronproof dbs, since it fits his lacking technique better
Kettlebells are significantly easier to hold than dumbbells or barbells since the weight is almost entirely distributed below the grip.
Kettlebells literally just disguise technique flaws.
good god you literally don't know what you're talking about
it's not even a case of being unexperienced with kettlebells, i'm convinced you never touched dumbbells in your life either
>t. forearmlet.
you clearly have never even used a kb to overhead press, or if you did, you did it wrong lol.
They're just unergonomic as shit, especially as the weight goes up.
The cost is not justifiable when you can buy weights and barbells instead.
There aren't any important exercises that you can't do without a kettlebell.
kek, can you do it for this one? Also add in "lacks mobility"
no problem anon
Thanks.
Here's one for you guys
who the frick is saying that armwrestlers should use kettlebells? this is such a moronic example, almost as bad as kettlebellmaxxers
Kettlebells are certified dyel equipment. Nobody gets big using them, it's just meant for hipsters and grifters like Joe Rogan.
You made the exact same post like three times in this thread already, samegay
adjustable kettlebells and dumbbell handles are fairly cheap and you can buy both, the plates are what's expensive as frick
A 40lbs adjustable kettlebell will run you 100+ bucks. At that price you can just buy other equipment.
No, you can buy the handle itself for like $20, the rest is the plates, you can buy adjustable dumbbells for like $7-$8 per.
It'll be like $100+ for enough plates, though.
>buy kettlebell just to put plates in it
Black person at this point the purpose defeats itself
This is sorta true. Those rings will make you look good. The kb is designed for more athletic shit, you're not going to get aesthetic with it.
I would throw out there that I swing 80lbs KBs and I have given up deadlift training completely. I can pull 400 when I do, and i dont get injured anymore
>the anti kettlebell schizo is talking to himself now
damn, kinda starting to feel pity now, poor thing
I do kettlebells (mostly swings) and calisthenics. I'm not huge by any means but I like the strength-endurance element because I feel better as it gets better. That and just having a few kettlebells as a home gym is nice.
Maximal strength training is better for size though.
Different modalities for different effects. I dunno why people are getting so assmad over everything. When did IST get to be so shit?
Why can't people have different fitness goals and enjoy different things?
KETTLEBELLS ARE NOT ENOUGH FOR LEGS.
(they are)
Both of them have the issue that you can't progress for that long on strength and it just becomes cardio.
With rings you either use the weights to do weighted pull ups and dips to continue developing strength, wich you won't be able to do with kb because you can't add that much weight to any exercise at the time or you get into the more advanced gymnastics type stuff wich you won't be able to do either unless you have decent knowledge of the proper progressions to achieve harder moves.
With kettles because you only have one weight you can't progress and even if you get into unilateral exercises your progress will still be limited to the weight you have available.
>But i only care about muh mobility, muh functionality and longevity
For that you need a balance of mobility, flexibility AND STRENGTH if you don't have strength, just having yhe the others causes as many issues than just strength.
So yes you do need more than that.
>>But i only care about muh mobility, muh functionality and longevity
>For that you need a balance of mobility, flexibility AND STRENGTH if you don't have strength, just having yhe the others causes as many issues than just strength
issues than just strength
you get strength from kettlebells, maybe not enough for your personal preference. what you're talking about is increasing strength with progressive overload. you're worried about increasing your strength, rather than strength itself. you can have a balance of these different traits, but you will sacrifice some of these traits to increase another. increasing strength comes with increasing size with a caloric surplus, and you will inherently lose mobility and endurance if you're strengthmaxxing. kettlebell training will give you a good balance of different physical traits. squatting heavy weight for 1-3 reps on a perfectly balanced vertical axis will help you develop fast twitch muscle fibers, but at the cost of slow twitch muscle fibers. an all around balanced body can be achieved through kettlebell training.
No, the thing is that if you are serious about strength and/or mobility you need to go hard at it and is true that in order to increase one you hinder the the other but the proper way to go about it is to dedicate a phase to strength where you maintain mobility and then dedicated a phase to mobility where you just maintain strength.
A beginner can do a mix of anything and it will work but as they progress they will need more specificity.
Is true that kettlebells are well rounded but that doesn't mean they are optimal, because of the set weight you need to get a lot of kettlebells in order to properly progress or you will just stagnate eventually and yhe the best you can do is maintain after a certain point.
Mixing several aspects into one workout saves time sure but at the expense of suboptimal results.
Most might not need that much but even then the amount of benefits from kettlebells are very overrated and not nearly as efficient as people think.
suboptimal for what exactly? if you're strength training to achieve a heavier back squat, then yes, they're suboptimal. having balanced physical attributes is inherently suboptimal if the goal of the person exercising is to enhance one specific physical attribute at the opportunity cost of others.
You're highly overestimating how much strength you really need
The only thing OP's pic can't substitute are barbell deadlifts, which are amazing and have no real substitutes
But if you get a pair of 53lbs and 70lbs kettlebells, you have the option of buying a barbell, improvise a platform of sorts, and use your preferred method to load the barbell with the kettlebells
Now you have 151lbs, 185lbs and 291lbs options to do deadlift with, the jumps are massive, so you could maybe get some cheap change plantes to shorten the gap
But the thing is, you will never need more than this total weight in REAL LIFE, anything above this point and you're just building gym strength
You're better buying a punching bag and practicing some martial arts after reaching this point, where you will actually develop useful skills that isn't just lift heavier barbells
Or you could just disregard all this post and get a generic rack setting like a generic lifter, you can do whatever the frick you want
But there are plenty of options out there if you get creative, rather than just sticking to the sheeple mainstream
>Gym strength
My homie that implies there is such a thing as useless strength and that is only the case if there is a massive imbalance between strength and mobility wich only happens if you seriously neglect one or the other.
Sure like i said to the other guy a lot of people don't need that much but you can get vastly better results from properly training each aspect.
The only real benefit from kettlebells is that you can do several things at once like op said but this is very important, yhe results are far less significant than people think because of the principle of specificity.
You can't train several aspects of fitness at once and get decent results.
I think kettlebell are a good complement but if your purpose is to build a balanced physique that has a good balance of athletism, even if it's just for basic daily life stuff you'll get there much faster by properly training each aspect first and then maybe maintain it with kettlebell training.
Unless you have a shit ton of kettlebells you can't really have that much progress in any area with kettlebells, like you said those gaps are huge and even if you get creative with variations for strength, you still fall behind on conditioning and mobility because it only offers so much.
And yes you don't need that much but kettlebells don't do nearly as much as people think.
>gym strength
lmao
3pl8 = 315lbs deadlift is beginner tier
I only use kettlebells for side bends because I feel like it's marginally more ergonomic. but I go to the gym where I can use them for no added cost, would never buy them for home use.
did the kettlebell hating schizo fricked off yet
is it finally safe to have a normal discussion now
>dyelbells
>redditbells
>incelbells
>ngmibells
use the correct terms
How do you even program something like Kettlebell swings long term or are you just doing X amount of them daily next to your normal training?
Counting sucks, I prefer timed
I just let my brain do it on automatic mode, while I watch something on TV
Why is IST so butthurt about rings and kettlebells?
Kbs calisthenics and a tonne of Muay Thai.
Tell me I need to deadlift stupid weight in a bullshit gym full of homosexuals.
Inshallah you get stabbed in the neck
you're just lean and like 5'8" kek
Except I’m six four and a multiple time world champion. That’s what 90kg looks like at 193cm
ok larper post timestamp
You lost, schizo.
Get the frick out of this thread.
Nobody wants your little DYEL ass in here, you sure posted a lot of autistic manchild screech, but not a single body post of your own.
Anon I don't know how to tell you
But you're a homosexual too
Post routine and diet anon, pls.
How do you structure your routine around Muay Thai, what's your routine, do you run, whats your diet, how many hours of Muay Thai per week?
TIA fren
I teach Muay Thai 3x per week for 2 hrs. Run a minimum of 5k daily and do upper and lower body splits for a total of 6x a week.
Works out to 3 training sessions a day usually but helps I get paid for it
That's a lot of volume, how do you keep on good weight ? What do you do for lifting sessions ?
Olaftheangry on TikTok and you will see some of my workouts.
It isn’t a lot and I can do much more during a fight camp.
I eat whatever I want and don’t take any supplements or protein powders etc but I generally only enjoy clean foods like beef and pasta.
A jar of raw unpasteurised honey every two days.
why so much honey chadbro?
based body poster
kettlebell hating schizo (who never posted his body because he doesn't have one) forever having a meltdown
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>No timestamp.
Gee I wonder if this could be a LARP. No, someone wouldn't just lie on the internet like that.
lol no need really.
Be a homosexual who doesn’t compare to me. I’m the only one consistently backing up his claims and posting pics
Timestamp my dick
You haven't backed up a single claim because you've given zero proof that you're not LARPing.
Posting a timestamp photo would actually back up your claims.
Want me to stand next to a tape measure next? I get medicals before every fight that includes random drug testing.
I’m 16/0
Fair enough, mate. Can't blame me when a literal homosexual ITT has already LARPed as someone else
Here is a picture of my back (obtained in part from doing lots of deadlifts).
How often do you jerk off to get that lopsided back?
Frick frick frick I've been found out. Like 3-5 times a day if I'm not doing nofap.
My left arm is literally longer than my right.
use a vibrator if you unironically have muscle imbalances because of jerking off too much. I got elbow problems from jacking off too much but trying to quit was too hard, so now I just use a vibrator and my elbows have calmed down
I'm pretty sure it's because I played tennis when I was younger and have always been a bit lopsided since. I should jerk off less in any case.
>sandpaper skin
surely you meant from lots of pinning, roidtroony
Obviously not on roids.
that is me tho why would i larp as me i have a better body than you tho
Post timestamp then.
don't care that much these threads are always full of dyels seething cause barbells and dumbells are better than their meme equipment
Yeah yeah we get it, you won't post it, you're gonna chicken out and run away like a little b***h.
kek seething heres my bicep
Seriously weak bro. That’s a 14” arm.
wrong 16.5s cold but keep seething
where's the timestamp though little guy
mad cause i won't give some incel homosexual a timestamp kek keep seething and using meme shit from whatever israelite is shilling you this week
Verification not required.
confirmed fake poster
why do you have so many half naked men saved in your pc
why are you so mad i won't play your homosexual game? you should try having sex with women and leaving your moms basement
yo it's fine no need to get so sensitive
you're among friend after all
it's fine to admit you're gay
the way you try to deny it is why people mock you so much
just be honest, come out and say you like men, homo
still in moms basement?
Okay, you're not me though. Why are you pretending to be?
yes, if you don't want to look like twink
Tell me about your k1 routine. How many rounds? How long?
>fightgay bum
kek
That’s the 2021 world title. K1 not Muay Thai though, super cruiser weight.
I definitely don’t need to get bloated and consume bullshit supplements whilst chasing made up numbers on a bar.
whats ur name
Lol
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Sawadee krap.
Gesundheit
>actually looks tiny when not posing
Tale as old as time itself.
Mental illness confirmed. I rest my case.
Damn, this thread sure attracted IST's biggest autist.
>You're mentally ill if you don't have a strong opinion on a random ISTposter
Okay.
If you didn't look like a drug addicted loser, maybe I'd have a different opinion.
>won world championship
>still didn't cure his seething over being weak
This thread was better when it was just the rings. The kettlebells add nothing, you don't need them.
thread was better when ironic homosexuals werent larping as literal homosexuals posting images they pulled off some gay website
honestly im so disgusted im going to leave this thread.
Who’s Larping? You?
bro your legs?
bro your cardio? don't tell me you're doing high impact trash such as running for your daily cardio bro, you're doing more long term harm than good bro
I run daily.
Whenever I speak to or interact with others about fitness and health I’m reminded of how thankful I am for how my father raised me.
Weakness absolutely everywhere and people act shocked when someone does what should be the bare minimum.
>Solves kettlebells
I’m not a KB gay, but you’re a moron.
This is only good if if you want to do extremely heavy swings, it is effectively useless for anything else.
>useless for anything else
So just like kettlebells?
>
Kettlebells are fun, make my back feel good, and I'm not in some homosexual bodybuilding competition
>two 24kg kettlebells
Almost perfect, from a minimalism standpoint I understand
But 32kg and 40kg kettlebells are important for strength
Kettlebells and rings are perfectly fine, but people do gimmick exercises with them
>windmills
>turkish get ups
>swings (yes)
>etc
You can hit everything if you do this:
>single leg rdls
>step ups or split squats
>weighted push ups or ring dips
>kettle bell ohp
>kettle bell rows/ pull ups
If you need more weight on the single leg exercises you can grab multiple kettlebells
If you need more resistance on ohp or rows just start doing slower reps
i sort of agree with windmills
but tgu and swings are not memes though
they do not substitute the lifts you mentioned, but they absolutely have their uses
swings are for ballistics, and tgu trains several forms of mobility and coordination, they are not meant for strength or hypertrophy
(and you completely miss the point of kettlebells if you're going to neglect their main "gimmick" of mobility movements)
Tgus helped me a lot with BJJ.
Are ring dips a better mass builder than ring push ups?
I do a modified SL, with no bench or ohp and just ring push ups. But have recently started doing dips. Just wondering if I can replace PU entirely.
Can you recommend a dumbbell ring routine?
sure lots of seething samegay itt
kettlechads really mindbroke him
I'm fat as frick and can't even do push ups and rings are great for working up to them. People who think they're too hard to use are clueless.
apparently they are either useless or too hard to use and there's no in-between xd
UPDATE
I used my new rings to do inverted rows and after sleeping my back and arms are sore as hell. I'll keep this up until I can do pull-ups again!
Nice anon! WAGMI
swings are king