do they affect gains/strength/cutting? what’s the deal with these. i was on zoloft last year for about 3.5 months but was in a deep depression so i wasn’t lifting. i didn’t gain or lose weight really but getting on and off of it reduced my appetite. it was an overall decent drug imo but had to come off bc i couldn’t ejaculate. didn’t cum a single time in almost 4 months, ultimate nofap drug. anyone else have experience with these? any recommendations? really thinking of kms a lot lately and want to explore options where i live
yeah I dunno I'm on 300mg of ssnri and I still want to commit suicide and don't have a job or lift weights and don't have friends
You are using medications wrong
my recommendation is stay clear from that slop
I wont elaborate cause everyone I've talked about it with has agreed with me and proceeded to keep taking them anyways
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>i was on zoloft
>i was in a deep depression
>overall decent drug
Werent you taking it for depression? So sounds like it didn’t work at all? Why do you say it was overall decent?
SSRIs won’t intrinsically affect your gains but they may make your workout habits less effective since you may have less energy to lift hard and less appetite to eat hard. Probably not significant enough to concern yourself with especially if you’re not already in good shape; any working out will yield very good rewards and the difference that SSRIs make will be negligible.
i was actively suicidal before taking zoloft and while my body adjusted to it. however, once my baseline formula included zoloft, i had no intention or plans to take my life. it also significantly improved my anxiety, which is another huge reason why i started taking it in the first place. i just don’t know what the impact on a lifting lifestyle would be as i had stopped lifting prior to taking it. the reason i stopped was because it was literally impossible for me to ejaculate. i couldn’t cum during sex nor could i cum jacking off and i’d spend an hour and a half trying to. just wasn’t acceptable to me because i felt impotent
Reminder ssris increase rate of suicide and creatine has been shiwn to have a greater success rate at reducing depressive symptoms than any ssri on the market
i’ve heard this but have been taking creatine daily since i started lifting again, like 2 months, and haven’t noticed any effects
I'm currently hooked on paroxetine. Wouldn't recommend it. Has made life manageable but I put on a solid 10lbs of homogeneous external fat. Seriously fricked with hunger, appetite and what I wanted to eat the first few weeks. Didn't lose the extra fat with fasting like it used to work before. If I knew better, I'd have tried psychedelics or ketamine because currently I can't (risk of serotoninergic syndrom with SSRIs)
Switch to Prozac (fluoxetine)
Might be just about the worst thing you can take for anything related to affirming life. You should go the opposite direction and get a serotonin antagonist and or dopamine agonist.
Low dose Cyproheptadine is a good serotonin antagonist, but it's also a slight dopamine receptor antagonist which can cause anhedonia taken for a long time.
Bromocryptine is a good dopamine agonist.
Also just basic things like coffee, lysine, theanine, sugar, living a stimulating life without routine, dancing, listening to music, making progress in a meaningful way, all supress serotonin due to being dopaminergic.
i take kratom and gabapentin daily. should i stop those? i genuinely don’t know if i even could at this point
Not cold turkey, over several months if you feel like your health allows it. Progesterone, Pregnenolone could be used for the countering of the withdrawal symptoms.
SSRI cause violent psychosis and suicide ideation in a significant number of people who take them. All the muttoid school shooters were on this stuff. Avoid at all costs.
The amount of bullshit in these kind of threads is astonishing.
no SSRIs wont affect your lifts or gains. They might give you the little bump in motivation and drive to keep going or just starting at all.
Just using meds however will seldom help you. There are underlying issues, go talk to a therapist. It's worth going to one just to get a new perspective on your life, your issues.
just seek help if you need to. this whole anti pharma circlejerk on IST is just moronic
No, you literally don't even need to bring the israelites in. The fricking science and experts even agree that antidepressants are not good for anyone.
Yep, 5-HT2B uncontroversially cause fibrosis of multiple organs.
>The fricking science and experts even agree that antidepressants are not good for anyone
wtf on my way to chug antidepressants now!
>the experts agree
Really now. Who are these experts
>just seek help if you need to. this whole anti pharma circlejerk on IST is just moronic
Lol agreed
>DUDE DON'T TAKE MEDS, THEY WILL KILL YOU. JUST TAKE TEST AND ASHWAGANDHA AND WEED DUDE LMFAO
Several people in this thread have recommended helpful meds, you're a fricking moron.
>helpful meds
Which ones, lol? Progesterone and kratom?
LMFAO
>no SSRIs wont affect your lifts or gains.
Please do not give advice when you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about. Many, if not most SSRIS And antipsychotic medications affect insulin response and increase hunger and lethargy
What do israelites gain from a population that's getting out of bed and can motivate themselves to work out/ work on their issues/ turning their life around.
I envy you anons that can muster the energy to do shit without meds, I haven't been able to do shit when the depressive episodes kick in without meds.
Still, if youve been depressed your whole life and start your therapy, take your meds you will feel like you wasted the last couple of years. just seek help anons
it’s rather the contentment with poverty and subhuman conditions that the israelites have to gain. an entire population of “this is fine”, when literally nothing is fine
Didnt mean to tag you on the other reply.
But man, if SSRIs turn out to be the wrong drug for you, there are plenty more alternatives.
Went from Sertralin to Venlafaxin to Bupropion now. Sertralin and Venlafaxin were pretty decent but had unwanted side effects. With Bupropion I've found the perfect drug. No side effects, increased libido and intense Orgasms. Stopped sweating entirely (ssris and snris tend to make some people swest like pigs).
After getting on Sertralin I quit my dead end university degree, mustered up the Courage to start an apprentice ship as an electrician and in the time that Ive been talking to a therapist Ive managed to fix my relationships. Girlfriend and family a like.
Drugs alone wont make your shit life good, but they will give you the edge to do something about it.
Shitposting on IST is all fun but if youre surrounded by piss bottles and cum socks its hard to turn your life around.
I mean just a good friend or mentor wluld do wonders for 99% of these neet homosexuals but as their predicaments are fricked most need an external ressouce.
you homosexuals cry all the time for nothing, try being bipolar.
i am diagnosed borderline personality disorder. it’s probably 60-70% contribution for my suicidal ideation. i can’t handle being alone
Coming off SSRI's ATM after 10 years of use, any advice bros? I feel so empty, and yes I'm exercising like crazy
Cyproheptadine, progesterone/pregnenolone + Peatarian style diet.
>Peatarian
Ignored
Gonna learn today
Lifting and rooning are the only things that allow me to cope with this modern shit culture so I'm definitely not mentally healthy but I'd rather jump off a bridge than take some goypill.