Steroid use is generally discouraged which makes finding information about it hard, especially when it’s conflicting. Could someone who’s for real answer those questions?
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>my experience not reading the fricking reddit steroid wiki and blasting moron amounts of d-bol/test/tren and then coming off of it cold turkey with zero pct medications
wow really sad man
This happens to people trying a normal dose of steroids and following all the right advice, kys roidshill.
I’ve been stagnant for about 3 years now, meaning I don’t gain or loose a single pound of muscle, I switched up my diet and workout regimen many times.
I’m considering steroids.
For me it’s not about looking as big as possible it’s just that the fact that I work out and love it has no effect anymore physically really bothers me.
Especially after years of physical change.
I wanted to do one cycle of Testosterone enanthate and see how it affects my body.
I have a healthy lifestyle and don’t drink alcohol since my teens.
I do have high cholesterol levels naturally thought because of genetics.
Are there any serious side effects that could accur just from the first cycle of steroids? Besides recovery.
I have not found any case or study of someone dying or having heart failure just from one cycle. If someone knows of such a case or can find a example I would greatly appreciate it because that would mean that I won’t take the testosterone.
If you are 60 yo and can’t get your dick hard consider it
what are your current strength levels?
post lifts
>Are there any serious side effects that could accur just from the first cycle of steroids?
Yes, you can develop hypogonadism, but that can be entirely avoided by taking 250 IU of HCG EoD. I have been taking Testosterone enanthate for three months on / one month off cycles for more than four years and my natural testosterone levels and sperm count have stayed exactly the same.
What's the catch
you have to chop your penis off
I am a gril
Nothing, really. You have a slight risk of gynecomastia if you're sensitive to it and slightly increased risk of cardiovascular illness, but that's about it.
gynecomastia risk increase with the % of BF you have, if you're a fatty and do a cure, you'll 100% get one even more kek
> having your masculinity be a subscription feature to some shady plug that might very well disappear tomorrow
What a terrible lifestyle.
I think that's about as likely as worrying that one day your waters gonna turn off for no reason. There is stupid money to be made from T and someone will ALWAYS be there. Even if they weren't and they disappear well now you're eligible for it from an actual doctor. And if doctors stop being able to prescribe medicine we have much bigger problems and the end is nigh anyway
Don’t take ‘em it’s not worth if.
If you have high cholesterol than you are prob already at risk of developing heart issues. The roids will just increase that likelihood even more. Stay fit and healthy
>Steroid use is generally discouraged
Only by natties who are scared of needles and people who ended up fricking themselves up.
I've been on gear for 6 years (BnC) and it was the best decision of my life.
I am not going to answer any of your silly questions because it doesn't matter at all.
There's only one way to find out how you will react to gear and no amount of reading or asking will change the outcome that is predisposed by your genetics.
Only thing i have to say on the topic of blasting steroids is: cycling is for fricking morons. Once you hop on, never come off.
Don’t end up like this dude friend.
Sounds like you put in hard work already don’t let all that go to waste by ruining your health
yep. im on the sauce and my balls are still bigger than natties nowadays baka
Why would you care about the size of your balls? It doesn't affect anything but running hcg has it's own side effects.
What I’m gathering from this is that you look at a lot of balls
read the wiki on r/steroids
decide for yourself
can someone redpill me on enclomophine?
Turned my test from 190 to 1400 in just 3 weeks. Estradiol from 2 to 51. This while 12,5mg EOD
eod meaning every day before bed?
12.5 seems a lot theres not much info, but ive read people take only 6.25 or even 3mg and not every day but every other day
im not planning on taking anything else but i dont want severe side effects like hair loss or arthridis
Every Oter Day
Yep, people get amazing results even at 3 and 6,25mg
It's a powerful drug btw
Why don't we have a TRT general? I'm 50yo and was just diagnosed with low T (free t actually regular test is 540). Taking .7ml injection once a week, clomid twice a week
>clomid twice a week
dumb
Why?
Whats the point of taking clomid if you are on testosterone already.
So natty production doesn't shut down
>So natty production doesn't shut down
doesn't work sorry, consider get a new doctor.
this
Doc says he wants to get my levels to 8-900 or so. I'm guessing he'll want to go higher after I'm used to this whole thing. Still proud of myself for giving myself the first shot.
sounds good, but what are the side effects?
im not a roid expert but i think clomid should be used to preserve testicle size and fertility while taking test
>what are the side effects
With test? Natural Tshut down which is what the clomid is for. Hair loss is possible but more common for this with a genetic disposition for male pattern balding.
no i meant for taking enclomophine only
anyone has experience with testosterone cream?
does that do anything?
>anyone has experience with testosterone cream?
>does that do anything?
Transdermal absorption of testosterone is beyond pathetic and you literally have to smear it on your butthole like a homosexual because it's the only spot that is best for absorbing drugs transdermally.
Test cream is something that doctors presribe to low test homosexuals who won't stop b***hing about low test but refuse to jab themselves with a needle.
>no i meant for taking enclomophine only
I have no idea. I'm new to all of this. I'll have to ask my doc. This is why I think we should have a TRT General
>Clomid
Why? Enclo is superior if you’re a dude because clomid contains Zuclomiphene
Not sure, I'have to ask the doc. I just started last week.
Why lie?
>Why lie?
Testosterone shuts you down. Clomid wont do anything to reverse that.
Objectively wrong
Show studies showing that concurrent usage of testosterone and clomid has any effect on the testicles.
Any enjoy when the zuclomiphene stereoisomer kicks in after 4 to 8 weeks.
Can you please elaborate why my doc wouldn't know this? And are you taking my age (50) into consideration?
Doctors are misguided by a lot of things, and clomid becomes less effective the older you get, so a double whammy there. Not only does clomid not reverse the suppression that exogenous testosterone causes, it is also less effective on an aging HTPA axis. Sorry champ.
so whats the solution
HCG.
are we talking about a long term thing or just a small blast.
im not the same guy you were talking to before
The other guy is taking testosterone as well. Presumably he wants to keep his fertility and balls alive while on testosterone injections. In this case he would take HCG forever with the testosterone.
>other guy
That's me. I will ask my doc about HCG. I just started so I think I'll be fine with the clomid for the time being. I won't lie that using a needle does not feel "normal". I don't care though at my age. I am tired of being tired all the time no matter how much I exercise and eat well.
technically speaking, you don't *need* hcg
its just that if you don't take it, your balls will atrophy
which means reduced (or zero, depending on duration) chance of being able to restore your own test production. same for fertility. also your balls will be tiny.
but yea, assuming you don't care about those things, you can skip the hcg
respecfully, why are you worried about fertility at your age? i presume if you wanted children you would have them by now?
Well, this is his area of expertise. Should I be on HCG instead?
Yes. But it's likely HCG is hard to get so they are giving you clomid as a shitty bandaid solution and hoping for the best/you get a placebo effect.
Check your LH and FSH levels after you have been on testosterone + clomid for a few months. If they are zero then clomid is not working.
OK, I'll keep an eye on it. Next blood test will be the beginning of December.
This is why IST is dangerous. What the hell
You have to be clinically moronic to not take steroids in 2023.
currently 102kg, 180cm tall, 25y/o. Already lost 40kg but i can't lose much more. I've tried, i went to 95 but gained all my fat back... I want to try clenbuterol or anavar for a few weeks to lose the excess bodyfat
On a scale 1 to 10, how shitty is that idea ? I know it won't solve everything, but it might help me by a lot
>forever tying your masculinity to a needle and vial
Lol, it’s so funny when you roid trannies die or when you inevitably come off due to health issues and grow breasts and get fat because you destroyed you natural t production.
Not steroids but
i starting dosing Rad140 at 10mg daily, i know that it is a supressive sarm and that around weeks 4 - 8 i'll get my balls shutdown would taking clomid during the rad cycle avoid my balls from shutting down? am not a fatty 75 kg 1.75m around 12-13% bf