I work on a lobster boat in massachusetts. My back has started hurting recently between workdays, almost rendering me immobile. Is there any reason I shouldn't just load up on test and try to see if I can just build muscle enough to make the job easy. Would SARMs be a better choice?
I work 12 hour days, 400 traps, lifting, running, bait etc. I get good sleep and drink a gallon of milk a day plus 3 meals a day. Usually 60 to 80 hours a week.
Stretches help a lot so I'm fairly sure all the pain is muscular and not skeletal/joint etc.
No I refuse to go to the doctor in any way shape or form.
Before you say quit I make 150k a year and am moronic so it's not an option either.
If you’re against doctors at least go see a physiotherapist so they can help diagnose your back issue. Going on test won’t cure a slipped disk or an actual injury.
It's not a slipped disc though it goes away with stretching and use
Lighter disc slippages can be masked and go away just by warming up and getting blood flowing through the area. I'd recommend you buy a weightlifting belt and wear it during your work shifts.
Most back injury/wear comes from you unconsciously unbracing your core while doing something strenuous. Having a belt on will constantly remind you to brace and stay tight. I do a lot of farm work and the difference between working with the belt on and without is night and day.
The problem with that is that lower back pain can be a sign of systemic fatigue and not just local lower back fatigue. You can be as strong as you want but if your activity levels are really high its not going to make a difference. You could try a deload, and then see if the total workload or lifeload is to much for you. Psychological and mental stress can also cause backpain, especially in combination with lifting and labor job.
>Most back injury/wear comes from you unconsciously unbracing your core while doing something strenuous.
You have no data for that and that is not true. And OP don't even have a injury, he has pain. And no you don't have to have an injury to have lower back pain. Its often fatigue and stress related.
If it's just systemic fatigue am I risking injury by continuing working? If it's just pain I don't really care I can stretch and get rid of it, and there's a slow season in April I can recover in. I just don't want to be a hobbled over old man
Not necessarily, could be. But you should consider going easier on the lifting and running.
>Its often fatigue and stress related.
You get more fatigue and stress if your back is not properly braced.
I'm speaking from my own personal experience, as someone who spends most of the spring/summer/autumn season doing heavy daily work on hay cutting/collecting, chopping firewood, feeding animals, growing vegetables, picking apples pears etc. I also spend most of the winter season shoveling snow, slaughtering/cutting/drying meat etc. I've had back pain doing those activities in previous years, to the point of not being able to get out of bed morning after an exceptionally strenuous day. Ever since I started wearing a lifting belt during those activities my back is quite literally pain free
>No I refuse to go to the doctor in any way shape or form.
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bcp 157 is a peptide that's supposed to be good for healing, never used it myself but you could look into it
no test will cure your back pain, maybe nandrolone but will only mask the problem, so it isnt a good idea anyway
>im not going to trust people who know better than me because i suffer from dunning kruger
The last time I went to the doctor for numbness/nerve pain in my elbow that radiated down my arm and persisted for weeks
>General practitioner, less than 5 mins with him refers me to specialist
>Go to specialist
>She literally says "why are you even here?" With disgusted look on her face
>Leaves room and gets an intern to do the scans on me
>Like $300 in copays
>No advice given
>GP basically just gave me an over the counter anti inflammatory
Unless I have a obvious physical ailment like a knife stuck in my chest or something I am never going to a doctor again
Exactly, they're fricking witch doctors and just guess at most or tell you shots fine when it's not.
>work 12 hour days on a fricking lobster boat
unironically chad pilled.
>Stretches help a lot so I'm fairly sure all the pain is muscular and not skeletal/joint etc.
Probably, if you haven't gotten some very memorable traumatic injury along the way. Long story short, your back is too strong and is pulling your spine into a weird position. You should do pilates. Failing that, do some sets of hanging leg raises wherever you can find a bar sturdy enough for you. You'll know if it's muscular because the pilates or hanging leg raises will give you immediate relief.
Please don't listen to this idiot, bending your spine while it's unloaded and strengthening your abs while your back stays the same can only cause further issues. You're supposed to be engaging your back muscles more and making them stronger before anything else to make your pain go away
this guy deadlifts constantly for his job. he probably already has a natural 3.5 pl8s without ever training it. extra core work is never a bad idea.
>this guy deadlifts constantly for his job
Which is why he should keep doing deadlifts and deadlift related workouts.
Wasting time. Get a belt and learn to brace
Go do heavier front squats and look how much the upper back sags to see I'm right on upper back and upper abs being the lagging muscles. Reverse grip deads would be nice most people's shoulders are in a terrible position from weak core and having no serratus and upper abs. Your lower abs shouldn't be about the same width as the upper ones. That's how some people have such nasty hooks instead of straights which are more hip twisting than rotating your shoulders.
That's essentially why I'm asking about jumping on roids, I'm already doing a ton of woek but don't have enough rest between to also do workouts and build muscle. I would hop on roids and lift to get stronger to help with muscular pain
He's basically doing deadlifts 24/7, I'd try and do L sits with weights, windshield wipers, and weighted decline crunches holding the weight more to the chest rather than behind the head, and do some twisties touching the elbow to the opposing knee.
Variations of sprinters stretches would loosen up the hip flexors a shitload, out the back leg or knee up on a chair and do a quad stretch both on the floor and raised too. Just look up karate stretches basically or take some classes for a month.
I mean on one hand there's not really anything detrimental to hopping on a cycle as is, the problem is doing anything more than a little bit and you'll become way too dependant on it. I'd honestly recommend liquor to relax after a long day(which you can't drink on a cycle) and coffee for pre-workout.
At 150k/yr I'd just buy myself a bunch of commercial gym quality shit like one of those 5-10k row/lat/pec fly station you find at nicer gyms. It's probably hard to sleep enough so just drink a lit of coffee an hour leading up to your work out and drink liquor and smoke weed during so you can grind through it and sleep well.
I go to the gym when a storm is coming in and I know I'll have 2 days off to recover, otherwise I only usually get 1 day off between working 3 or 4 days. So I wouldn't really be able to work out enough to justify spending anything on home gym stuff. Or should I be going to the gym doing those accesorry workouts even if I'm working the next two days?
Also for caffeine I drink 4 monsters per day, coffees bot really practical unless I carry a thermos and it's not enough caffeine for me
yeah that's a tough one, I'd recommend training to strengthen your back with things like hyperextension, jefferson curls, zercher deadlifts etc.
but you have no time or energy to do that shit
definitely get a good hydrolyzed collagen supplement, also taurine to help with cramping and maybe take more electrolytes through out the day
also if you can only do one thing I'd strengthen core with hollow body holds in the morning
honestly if you're making that much money why not just take 3 months off and strengthen the shit out of your back/core?
Part of making that money is staying on the really good boat I got onto, best in the Port by revenue, so if I take time off I lose my spot, they'd just hire a new deckhand. I make 6% of profit which is pretty standard on any boat, just my boat makes an ass of money.
6% of revenue*
Heavy bench and higher weight and volume for shoulders would help posture too, focus on bracing your upper chest and ribcage when doing them, incline bb bench too. Dbs don't do shit for upper core. But yeah do the weighted situps, L sits, leg raises and windshield wipers, squats and quads, and focus on pushing your ribcage and shoulders forward on dips.
Lighter shit like flies won't do shit for posture. Do those sprinters stretches too and you'll feel great also smoke a lot of weed and drink it'll loosen you up.
Upper cervical chiropractic Will fix it
>inb4 seething
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I've suffered from back pain for over 2 years from bulging disc's. I've tried epidural shots, chiropractory, massage therapy, stretching, sleeping on the floor, physiotherapy, muscle relaxers, icing, heating, weightlifting, running, walking, standing desks, etc etc. The single best thing I ever did was go on TRT. Turns out my lower body was weak as shit and I couldn't workout my legs because I was in so much pain i couldn't even walk. Got my test levels checked and I was in the 250 range at age 27. Once I hopped on, in about a week 90% of the pain was gone. I still have back pain, but my doctors have told me is probably due to permanent nerve damage at this point but I'm hoping as I get stronger the pain will go away completely.
Hello fellow mbutthole (Newburyport), I hope you get help
I'm not from here you homosexual. I can't stand new englanders
A regular Yoga routine cures all back pain/injurie
Mcgill big 3
Decompress spine with deadhangs
BRACE BRACE BRACE BRACE
Also finding a job that doesn't run your body into the ground. The shekels are not worth it. People get literally hooked to heroin seeking some relief from their busted up bodies, and here you are giving away your health for an extra 30-60k a year.
have fun spending 500k on fixing your back. just quit and do something else.