Stop telling fat people to lose weight.

Studies show that weight loss (caloric reduction) interventions never work. No matter how you cope ("muh willpower"), they just don't work for like 95% of people.

Why recommend something that doesn't work?

Like it or not, fat people aren't going away no matter how much you scream at them.

And before you call me a fatass or something, I'm 5'11 and 150 pounds. I actually need to gain more weight.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bold of you to think i talk to fat "people" lol
    i make sure they see me when i walk near them doe, i want them to see my body and feel bad about theirs

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not an argument

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not everything is.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lose weight fatty

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you're not wrong which is why I'd suggest public corporal punishment.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not practical

      https://i.imgur.com/xAFnaXw.jpg

      What is this shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's not practical but it would work, proving the point that's it's on the individual and not some genetic mutation or according other than personal choices which made them fat.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You just want to punish fat people, which is silly.
          Some people are fat, get over it lol.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            terrible bait

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not an argument. Try again.

              Arguments are a set of statements (premises and conclusion). The premises provide evidence, reasons, and grounds for the conclusion.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are fabricating your standpoint on the issue. Everyone knows fatties are disgusting and can/should lose weight. Therefore, your statement is bait

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        IMWW make you mad chud?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          scat fetishists are weird

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Not practical
        works in japan

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fat people are stupid so I avoid them. And if that wasn't enough, they don't like to do anything fun. They only want to go to some restaurant or pub and eat/drink. Very toxic lifestyle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How does one who is not fat have fun? Rock climbing? Hiking? Running 5Ks?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, some people really like being active. I hate hanging out with fat people because they are lazy. Even if you go to the beach with them they'll just sit there all day doing nothing instead or swimming, playing sports etc. It's the same reason I hate women. Even if they're thin they're usually lazy and are only thin because they eat 100g of cabbage per month or are bulimic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Being outside? Enjoying nature? Yes that's exactly how I like to have fun.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's amazing how most people don't like that. When did people become so lazy?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Caloric restriction always works. Diets based around this principle work until the fatties mental addiction to stuffing their face and unsubstantiated fear of the feeling of hunger overtakes their desire to be a normal human being.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Caloric restriction always works.

      On principle, but it is objectively not an effective treatment. Prove me wrong.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >make an argument with nothing to back it up
        >demand a counterargument with sources
        Lmao youre from reddit right?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >make an argument with nothing to back it up

          Look it up. The vast vast majority of people fail at losing weight. This is an established fact.

          Provide a study that proves otherwise.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >trust me bro

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Why are you arguing against facts? Who does that?

              It's like getting angry that someone says the Earth is round.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The earth is actually an oblate spheroid.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no one is arguing that fat people have no self control except you.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not an argument. Try again.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                neither are any of yours. you're baiting and arguing straw men. lifestyle change works. look at everyone who isn't obese. there have been no studies tracking every single thing someone eats lifetime because it's impossible. this is what you are arguing. I'm done with this troll thread created by a fat troony.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Define lifestyle change.

                A change in caloric intake? If so, then we're right back where we started. Weight loss (caloric reduction) interventions.

                Which don't work. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What most fatties do
                >Eat in calories deficit
                >Lose weight
                >Stop eating in calorie deficit
                >gain weight

                What they need to do
                >Eat in caloric deficit
                >lose weight
                >Figure out calorie requirements for new weight
                >eat that
                >Dont regain the weight

                It's simple. Just because people can't adhere to it, doesn't mean it's not true.

                80% of the population cannot do a pull up. Using your logic, pulling the body up using only the back muscles is impossible.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He's being difficult on purpose. He agrees that eating less makes you weigh less, but he's saying that fatties have no self control and always end up eating more. I'm not sure why he's making this argument, because no one disagrees.
                Everyone is shouting in agreement at each other. It's like an angry echo chamber

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So why tell fat people to commit to a treatment that fails 90% of the time? It's pointless lol.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The title of OP is
                >Stop telling fat people to lose weight
                When it should have been
                >Basic weightloss techniques don't work well, what can we do instead
                OP made this thread so he could argue semantics and he got what he wanted.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Weight loss interventions don't work because of its high failure rate.

                >80% of the population cannot do a pull up. Using your logic, pulling the body up using only the back muscles is impossible.

                Not an argument. If a treatment fails 90% of the time, doctors will consider that an ineffective treatment.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the treatment IS effective, the "patient" stops following the dr's orders, (eating at a deficit or maint)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > vast vast majority

            Yeah, fatties are pretty vast, alright.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >make an argument with nothing to back it up
            >Look it up. The vast vast majority of people fail at losing weight. This is an established fact.
            >Provide a study that proves otherwise
            Why would I want to spend time proving anything? Fatties aren't people, and the sooner they die the better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >always work
      >work until...
      But that's OP's point. so it doesn't work. caloric restriction works if you do it, if they don't do it, we shouldn't waste any time

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not an argument.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not intended to be one you mouth-breathing moron. Just calling out your shit thread for what it is.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Still not an argument. Try again.

          Arguments are a set of statements (premises and conclusion). The premises provide evidence, reasons, and grounds for the conclusion.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How many fedoras and Richard Dawkins books do you own, you pedantic homosexual?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              More than you do.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >virtue signalling
    Shiggy diggy. Both you and I know you're a disingenuous homosexual

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    op is way too invested in this conversation for this to be bait

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's just weaponized autism, there's a lot of that on IST these days.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shit thread I don't mind high jacking

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is the upside down lion on an upside down surface or just simply upside down? If it's simply upside down the nirmal lion wins by being far more mobile and having his opponent's weak spot being easily targetable.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    (You)

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Studies show that weight loss (caloric reduction) interventions never work.
    >never work

    How then?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My wife was over weight after having our two kids; she got to ~95kg and her BMI labeled her obese.
    All she has done is change the way she eats. She examines things and makes sure she doesn't eat stuff with high sugar or calories. It didn't take much, and she's already down to 85kg and is no longer obese. Her target is 70-75kg and right now it definitely seems achievable.
    If she were exercising as well (more than the usual walking and house chores) I'm sure she'd get there much faster.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It didn't take much, and she's already down to 85kg and is no longer obese.
      The amazing thing is that it never really takes all that much, the smallest changes can have a massive impact so long as you're consistent with it. I used to be 172cm 110kg. I decided to stop drinking soda, including "diet" sodas, and changed nothing else about my diet or amount of exercise, and I lost 15kg over the course of a year. I'm at 80kg with my only exercise being lifting things at work and doing simple calisthenics every morning. Most of my weight loss over the last several years has come from simply thinking more about what I'm eating (I pretty much only eat what I cook myself now) without really caring about how much of I'm eating.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Studies show that weight loss (caloric reduction) interventions never work. No matter how you cope ("muh willpower"), they just don't work for like 95% of people.
    The 95% figure is from a single study from the 1950s with a small sample size. have a nice day before your fat kills you, fat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Provide a study of an effective weight-loss intervention. You can't.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >studies show
    >10 participants
    >no peer review aside from profs instantly okaying it because they're lazy
    >Hur dur science says shoving your thumb up your butt makes you smart Hur dur

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Caloric reduction worked for me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It worked for me. Maybe I am just built different.

      Ancedotes don't count. It's like people here don't understand statistics.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It worked for me. Maybe I am just built different.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's unfortunately true that unless there is a major (fear of disaster) incentive there won't be any change. And also unfortunately most people can't see a real positive incentive either; Kevin Smith (ex-fatass director of Clerks and Jay & Silent Bob) noted after he dropped about 200+ "well, i'm glad I'm okay but I don't really feel any different," some people don't know the joy of explosive fitness, this generation more than ever. He lost weight but didn't gain health. The kind of freedom that lets you do crazy shit like parkour or *run* up a mountain.

    You know that feeling like when you see a mike tyson fight and say to yourself 'I could take him', or an acrobat doing something 99.99% of humanity can't but you reflexively feel yourself capable, that's your mirror neurons telling you that you're able to at least start training. Some people were born however who look at that and say, "wow what an amazing person, I can only (insert slovenly reddit hambeast joke.)" They don't know that losing weight is only the warmup, only the foundation of the freedom that real fitness provides.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Stop telling fat people to lose weight.
    >Studies show that weight loss (caloric reduction)....
    Stopped reading there.....

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what to I do about my fat sister

    she is clearly not going to live until her 60s and it brings me to tears because she used to genuinely be such a happy and beautiful woman

    serious answers only

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You wanna know the truth?

      Given the effectiveness of weigh loss interventions, there's literally nothing you can do.

      How much does she weigh anyway? Is she disabled?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        just obese, she can run for a minute and she does take an hour walk daily but... it's ultimately extremely unhealthy

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, I don't think it's much of a problem then.

          Assuming you're American, dying in one's 50s is incredibly rare.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CICO works, the problem is people cant stick to it because normies have the attention span of 2 weeks

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone knows deep down that no one likes to be fat. That's why we tell fatties to lose weight, because we know they would be so much happier if they did. The fact that many are too mentally weak to do so does not mean it's impossible. The method works if you follow it. 2+2 would still equal 4 even if 99 percent of humanity was too moronic to figure it out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >That's why we tell fatties to lose weight

      What's the goal in telling fat people to commit to an intervention that has a 90+% failure rate?

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I locked up 10 fatties in my basement and starved them until they were all skinny with a 100% success rate
    Then I replicated my experiment with 50 more fatties and had a success rate of 100% again
    Calorie restriction works and it's scientifically proven (by me)

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >doesn't work
    It does work, it's just a constant battle, welcome to reality newbie you can't go your entire life without work.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It just willpower. Same reason only 7% of people quit smoking in a given year

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand. If you consume less calories than your body needs, where will it get the energy except for your fat stores? It's impossible for calorie restriction not to work because your body can't just create energy out of thin air.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >zoomzooms physically CAN NOT refrain from replying to a bait thread
    sage

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >just eat less
    Yeah you'll still look like shit till you are underweight and a weak pussy. You really should get strong first that's just how to achieve an impressive physique faster.

    People gotta be moronic not realizing you'll cut twice as long trying to chase leanness with no muscle.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What happens if you eat zero calories?
    Will you lose weight? Why?
    What happens if you eat only 500kcal per day?
    Will you lose weight? Why?
    What happens if you eat 8000kcal per day whilst being completely sedentary?
    Will you lose weight? Why?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What happens if you don't reply to a bait thread? Cells.
      Cells.
      Interlinked.
      Interlinked.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >weight loss (caloric reduction)

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If I caught your fat ass and locked you in a basement and gave you bread and water you'd lose weight pretty quick.

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