because it looks way better
i tore my rotator cuff 8 months ago and havent been able to do basically any chest exercise since. and funnily enough i much prefer my physique now, it really helped to get rid of that puffy droopy gyno look. Smaller, chiseled chest looks WAY better unless you have godly genetics and insertions.
that wasnt the main takeaway. basically nobody has actual gyno. 99,999% of "gynos" posted here are not gyno, i typed it out mostly as a meme. the point was puffy/droopy chest which absolutely is from training as i have stopped and it has gone down. people who hypertrophy their chest, have bigger chest.
This is true only if you're fat. I'm at like 20%bf and since I started benching the countour of my chest's popping up, but also pushing my chest fat downward and outward, giving me a gyno look
Early gyms were focused on athletism, not looks. They didn't consider the scenarion of a perfectly symetrical tree falling on you in a lying position. They were focusing on thing like lifting shit above your head. Like when you need to load that bag of good in the cabin, etc.
In terms of functional every day moving I'd say chest is used the least. Even if you're pushing a heavy object you're most likely using your legs to do it
Pressing used to be as popular as benching is today. Then all the competitions got rid of pressing because it was difficult to judge and so the bench took its place. I encourage everyone to replace benching with OHP.
Sandow was trying to emulate the proportions of Greek/Roman and renaissance statues.
Early gyms were focused on athletism, not looks. They didn't consider the scenarion of a perfectly symetrical tree falling on you in a lying position. They were focusing on thing like lifting shit above your head. Like when you need to load that bag of good in the cabin, etc.
>They didn't consider the scenarion of a perfectly symetrical tree falling on you in a lying position.
Yet they recommended movements like a pushup to train the chest and barbell curls to train the biceps. The also did deadlift which is where you lift a perfect object for one to grab onto that is perfectly even to lift off the ground in an extremely specific way that you'll never really pick up most objects. This obsession with >athletism
in modern brainlets is missing the reality of why one lifts weights in the first place. You lift weights to provide stimulus for muscle grow which translates to improved strength in other activities. The motion you do during weight training does not matter in either regard so long as it effectively stimulates your muscles to grow so that you can get the benefits of bigger and stronger muscles. The best motions are the ones which allow you to focus entirely on the target muscle groups without any additional nonsense. The Bench Press is a decent chest, anterior delt, and triceps builder and far superior to any previously used exercises which is why it became much more popular than pushups and the floor press. And since Nautilus and later machine manufacturers, now we have the machine press, pec dec, etc. which are even more affective at targeting the those muscle since they are designed to exactly utilize the function of those muscles and nothing else.
You only get improvements in athleticism relative to your chosen sport when you're directly practicing for that sport. I.e. playing a practice game of baseball with a coach if you're a baseball player, training BP, Squat, and DL if you're a powerlifter, or doing sprint interval training if you're a sprinter.
Nah having some chest isn't that bad. The problem begins when your chest is massively bigger than every other muscle, then yeah it looks weird and goofy. Same as with any other muscle but probably with chest happens more because it's easier to train.
This guy clearly has a trained chest though
Sandow did push ups etc
Sure it's not peak modern bodybuilder chest but he's probably got a bigger one than 95% of people ITT
Did gymnastics rings not exist back then or something? I swear, early fitness culture was so moronic in how they trained by gymnastics has always understood how to train.
Why early bodybuilders didn't trained chest?
because it looks way better
i tore my rotator cuff 8 months ago and havent been able to do basically any chest exercise since. and funnily enough i much prefer my physique now, it really helped to get rid of that puffy droopy gyno look. Smaller, chiseled chest looks WAY better unless you have godly genetics and insertions.
If you have gynos it certainly wasn't because of training
that wasnt the main takeaway. basically nobody has actual gyno. 99,999% of "gynos" posted here are not gyno, i typed it out mostly as a meme. the point was puffy/droopy chest which absolutely is from training as i have stopped and it has gone down. people who hypertrophy their chest, have bigger chest.
>people who hypertrophy their chest, have bigger chest.
This looks awesome. Very imposing
Someone call Cbum and tell him to stop training chest STAT. (You are a fricking idiot and should not give advice ever)
This is true only if you're fat. I'm at like 20%bf and since I started benching the countour of my chest's popping up, but also pushing my chest fat downward and outward, giving me a gyno look
sour grapes
>because it looks way better
it doesn't tho you're just a dyel gay with a weak bench
because the bench press wasnt invented yet
they didnt have benches in the 1800s
Why did the bench press need to be invented it seem intuitive as frick
Because nobody ever lifts thing like that in real life
Early gyms were focused on athletism, not looks. They didn't consider the scenarion of a perfectly symetrical tree falling on you in a lying position. They were focusing on thing like lifting shit above your head. Like when you need to load that bag of good in the cabin, etc.
In terms of functional every day moving I'd say chest is used the least. Even if you're pushing a heavy object you're most likely using your legs to do it
Pressing used to be as popular as benching is today. Then all the competitions got rid of pressing because it was difficult to judge and so the bench took its place. I encourage everyone to replace benching with OHP.
Homosexuality used to be frowned upon, and even illegal in most countries.
Sounds like it would have been pretty tough for you back then.
Funnily enough the ancient Greeks used to live the man on man shit. Man on boy shit even.
Sandow was trying to emulate the proportions of Greek/Roman and renaissance statues.
>They didn't consider the scenarion of a perfectly symetrical tree falling on you in a lying position.
Yet they recommended movements like a pushup to train the chest and barbell curls to train the biceps. The also did deadlift which is where you lift a perfect object for one to grab onto that is perfectly even to lift off the ground in an extremely specific way that you'll never really pick up most objects. This obsession with
>athletism
in modern brainlets is missing the reality of why one lifts weights in the first place. You lift weights to provide stimulus for muscle grow which translates to improved strength in other activities. The motion you do during weight training does not matter in either regard so long as it effectively stimulates your muscles to grow so that you can get the benefits of bigger and stronger muscles. The best motions are the ones which allow you to focus entirely on the target muscle groups without any additional nonsense. The Bench Press is a decent chest, anterior delt, and triceps builder and far superior to any previously used exercises which is why it became much more popular than pushups and the floor press. And since Nautilus and later machine manufacturers, now we have the machine press, pec dec, etc. which are even more affective at targeting the those muscle since they are designed to exactly utilize the function of those muscles and nothing else.
You only get improvements in athleticism relative to your chosen sport when you're directly practicing for that sport. I.e. playing a practice game of baseball with a coach if you're a baseball player, training BP, Squat, and DL if you're a powerlifter, or doing sprint interval training if you're a sprinter.
Greek statue has gyno
Nah having some chest isn't that bad. The problem begins when your chest is massively bigger than every other muscle, then yeah it looks weird and goofy. Same as with any other muscle but probably with chest happens more because it's easier to train.
Except arms. Arms can't be too big.
my chest looks like shit regardless of what i do, let me train it
That's why I do Incline
take the zyzz pill
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how do i avoid this happening to me
He unironically has severe gyno.
it's not gyno. He just over developed his lower chest
it is gyno
He has puffy nipples. He still has glandular tissue that won’t go away and is making his lower pec look super plump and round. Shit is gyno 100%.
So far only this guy and Larry Wheels has this kind of chest.
Larry Wheels is strong as frick but does roid like a monkey so it could be gyno.
Sam sulek as well
>take the zyzz pill
Abuse roids and die, be turned into a hero because you're dead. oh yeah im taking that pill for sure brah!
kys
This guy clearly has a trained chest though
Sandow did push ups etc
Sure it's not peak modern bodybuilder chest but he's probably got a bigger one than 95% of people ITT
rubber band contraption loaded push ups
>do high intensity chest flys
>SVT's coinciding with my breathing
According to fit you should avoid training:
> heart
> traps
> chest
> core
> glutes
> ?
I don't listen to anyone who advises to purposely neglect a specific muscle group. Their 'advice' is always garbage
Did gymnastics rings not exist back then or something? I swear, early fitness culture was so moronic in how they trained by gymnastics has always understood how to train.
pretty sure this guy was all for greek ideal to point of going around world and look at statues or some shit
Chest is a vanity muscle. Literally all real life exertion you can do you can do better with other muscles. Prove me wrong.
Stop sucking wiener.