>im depressed
stop watching porn and masturbating
>im anxious
stop watching porn and masturbating
>i cant get an erection
stop watching porn and masturbating
>i cant focus and have no motivation
stop watching porn and masturbating
Most of fits problems come from dopamine flooding. Stop playing video games, watching porn and masturbating for three months. You will be the fittest you've ever been. You aren't going to bother to do anything if you are a brain damaged coomer. Having all the naked women you could ever imagine right in front of you only started happening in the past 20 years. And its destroying men.
t. former coomer
i cant
who do fuck do you think controls your hands? you do, of course you can
You're weak gay.
Just because something is difficult doesn't mean you "can't" do it.
How do you even lift weights if you can't do something difficult? Why are you here?
Fuck off you little streak of piss
Yes, you can, but you don't want to.
I can't
I can't continue this slow suicide of inaction and relentless daily addiction
I did no porn for 3 months and I felt so clear headed. I also only played vidya like once a week because I was playing with my brother and that's bonding time. I didn't quit masturbation entirely because that just leads to sexual anorexia. Massive life improvement and I felt more capable than I had while doing a lot of those 3 all the time. I'm gonna start that again today actually. It's time to get productive again
>I didn't quit masturbation entirely
ngmi
No gf currently. Stopping it 100% would fuck my system up right now
you dont have to coom. No one has ever died from not cooming. Its a lie that its "healthy"
>sexual anorexia
Just because you won't die doesn't mean it's healthy
You realize your body is designed to go long period of time without cooming right? Do you know what the purpose of morning wood is?
Not him, but I'd like to hear the answer.
>Do you know what the purpose of morning wood is
Enlighten us, one whom is so weiner-wise
>Do you know what the purpose of morning wood is?
Its for the evening bonfire
you're more likely to find a gf if you don't masturbate
women can smell the confidence and lack of degeneracy in you if you dont coom. They want to breed with a real man, not someone who sprays his seed into socks and napkins
Excuse me but I do it into a toliet
After a while of no gf your body will realize you are not getting any and your need 2 sneed will go to 0.
And then when you do have a woman in front of you after not using your dick for months and months your dick doesn't work. Many such cases
i did monkmode for a year straight and i can confirm this happens. i thought i broke my dick
Would this happen at all? I'm 3 months in and still get morning wood and boners when thinking about certain women or seeing women naked.
Would it be different if I actually was with a real woman?
it might not happen to everyone, im not sure. but on my longest streaks it was true for me and others on the nofap forums. it causes a lot of people to relapse.
not sure on the second part, i imagine not. sometimes seeing the right ass in the right yoga pants would completely flood my brain with demons. but i actively avoided indulging these things. i wouldnt even look. there was this asian bar tender chick with giant tits in a loose shirt, looked like she didnt have a bra, and it almost took over my brain on first gaze. i had to force myself to ignore it.
Why? I don't get it. I get going on nofap to beat porn addiction and if real life women don't excite you anymore. But the reactions you describe are perfectly normal and healthy for a male. It's your natural libido that is supposed to motivate you to fuck girls. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, in fact I would kill to get that feeling back.
well, it was a personal mission of mine. to conquer lust of the flesh, not to simply shun off porn. that was my own reasoning for doing nofap for years (cumulatively) of my life. it'd also be kinda counter-intuitive if you engaged in nofap but indulged in pornographic imagery. not saying that the bar tender with her tits is unhealthy or pornographic but i know if i sat there drooling over it, i would wind up fapping later so i didn't gratify the urge. turns out it's scary as shit when sex is removed from your brain and it would've been better if i scooped up a chick during those times, but i've never really cared for relationships or casual flings. either out of doubt, insecurity, laziness, what have you.
you can get that feeling back easily, i think. ever go on a long camping trip and every female looks like a fuckin smoke stack? just do that - metaphorically speaking.
luckily fapping without looking at porn is healthier than looking at porn without fapping
Well then seems like the solution is to fix whatever is blocking you from pursuing a relationship, rather than killing your sex drive.
well, it was just a 'spiritual' goal at the time because i was nose deep in all kinds of religious texts. just experimenting with myself. but thanks, you're right. ive actually felt a genuine desire to care for a girl the past couple months so im on that path.
You know this is an outright lie. You know the body does everything in it's power to make us want to reproduce. Does lying to yourself make you feel better about being a little subhuman coomer?
it wasnt a lie for me when i nofapped more than 6months straight. then again its not like i had a girl try. i wouldnt even get morning wood or random erections. seldomly while trying to sleep i would be overwhelmed with horniness and literally fuck my bed in a feral animal lust and ruin a streak. but mostly sex didn't exist in my head and boners were not a thing
get your T checked, that's not normal
this is only when i did long (5-6month+) nofap streaks. otherwise its normal.
it is normal in his case, what's abnormal is not achieving orgasm in one way or another for months
not having morning wood is not normal, it means your T levels are low, which is very bad because morning wood is what stops your dick from shriveling up
as ive said its normal when im not on a giant nofap streak. and as other anon said it really isnt a normal situation anyway to not PMO for half a year. i dont think its low T as there are plenty of other factors that can play into it and how many other people experience the same thing on nofap.
maybe T levels plummet while on nofap? not sure
I feel you, man. But I slipped back in the old habit so easily after 3-5 months. I guess I start anew today, right?
falling back into old habits is too damn easy ffs
And you'd think you start from the bottom of the ladder again. Like after not watching anything for months even naked women should do the trick, but for some reason that's not the case. You are right back at your weird fetish shit and it comes back at full force and it even becomes much much worse than before.
It'd be so nice to have an aa like community for this, but so far what I've found was some hard core chirstians on discord which is really off putting for me.
I usually slip up differently. No fap for say a month or two, then ok I will fap with no porn, then ok I will fap to coomer bait fitgirls in leggings. Then ok mild porn, then next thing I know I'm looking for weird deranged shit.
My arc is super fast though If I no fap for a month lets say and I open the flood gate a little bit then in the same day I will fap 6 times go from no porn to deranged shit pretty quickly.
I'm starting to think maybe no porn fap once per week to keep me from becoming a dog. No fap is nice, but I will literally want to fuck fat girls or femboys I'm so broken...
For me it does work like that though. On nofap even pics of naked women are enough to drive me crazy.
Then when I jerk off once, I tend to binge and keep jerking off, and then yeah, to get really horny I need to go for more unusual stuff.
That's why I'm gonna try doing nofap but watching porn every day.
On sunday I binged (I'm still feeling the effects on my energy levels), yesterday I fapped twice, today I've been watching porn and haven't jerked off yet and only get semi-erect when watching porn. Let's see how long I can keep it going.
bro no don't do that
porn is worse than fapping if anything
Not in my experience. I think porn is bad mainly because it makes me jerk off. We'll see.
Most of reddit is cringey trash but r/pornfree is a good community to use for that
Thanks for the tip!
what's sexual anorexia?
some people have tried nofap and became attracted to femboys, others have even tried nofap and actually became trans
I tried nofap and became attracted to even more women.
Some people are fucking gay and some people aren't. Those guys were thinking of men while they weren't masterbating.
I did something similar. I went to visit my gf and our kids, fucked her for 2 months. Now im back in my own country and I have the bandwidth for absolutely everything I dumped on my "todo list" last year. I walked 10km back from the airport to my house carrying my luggage, and still had the energy to go shopping afterwards (again walking, im a gay who dosent drive). I had minimal to no anxiety as well. Whereas last year some days I didn't even wanna go outside for no discernable reason. Im sure this is all down to me not wanking myself into a coma and eating garbage on occassion. Gonna try not to fall back into old habits this year, it's been a week and I still feel good, I want to keep this feeling.
people don't realize it's an addiction just like any other. you will feel shit when you try to quit, but if you succeed you'll feel better than ever
>but if you succeed you'll feel better than ever
I'm a month in. When do I feel better?
it's different for everyone, some people need less time because they used less porn. 90 seems to be the rule though
When I stopped my sex drive went to 0 and did not return in 2 months, started jacking off again because I was afraid I’d lose it forever
Now I edge and listen to audio porn and it’s higher than it’s ever been
>Now I edge and listen to audio porn and it’s higher than it’s ever been
My uncle who works at the FBI taught me this trick
What the fuck kind of advice is that. Fucking retard
Felt significantly better 80 days in. Going to aim for as long as I can to see what happens.
Day 30-60 we're pretty rough for me, as in I felt quite down and just wanted to go back but I pushed through and grateful that I did.
>Day 30-60 we're pretty rough for me
I feel this. Been keeping it clean since New Year's Eve but yesterday I had a peek. Not porn or even nudes, just sexy girls in clothes, but the temptation is really there.
I've successfully managed to go a year of not looking at porn before, so I know it can be done. Not that I felt a lot of benefits from it though, which makes it easier for me to rationalize to stay a coomer.
Yeah I too started thinking I might as well go back to my cooming habit but thank God I didn't. I honestly never felt better now that I'm past 3 months.
Though I had a little side step were I talked with a woman wearing a shirt with a very deep cut and he tits almost falling out, it caught my attention and I couldn't stop thinking about it all day. Almost decided to blow it. But again I managed to recover by reminding myself of what I was and how far I've come.
How are you feeling better? For me it was nice to know I wasn't consooming, but otherwise it didn't give me more energy, make me approach more women, lift more weights or anything. I felt pretty much the same.
I didn't have a porn addiction before though, and I've been semi-depressed close to a decade, so maybe that's why it didn't do much for me.
Well I don't know if it's placebo but I don't care.
What I noticed is that I'm way more inspired creatively by the world and things that I come across, way more motivated in an artistic sense (I want to be a painter), and I feel an intense desire to chase my dreams, as I know now very clearly what I want. Whereas I used to just let life carry me along uneventfully.
When it comes to women, it feels easier to talk to them without anxiety, or fear, or expectations even and people in general seem a bit more receptive as I present myself more openly. Some days the desire to fuck is strong but it's a fun energy now rather than a desperate need for "release". When I feel like that things I do become fun in a strange way.
I have been daily fapping just shy of 10 years so it is a big change to my daily life but I don't regret it one bit.
God thanks you king
People are slowly waking up to porn having a negative side.
>porn is free because it costs you your soul
>porn is free because it costs you your soul
BASED AS GOD
>porn is free because it costs your soul
Very true I learned the hard way , even more fucked up that major news outlets don’t talk about it, they rather focus on something not important like Biden riding around in an expensive car (actual news story I saw at work)
porn is free because some of it is actually shared for free in general, others are shared so people can buy more, and some are uploaded without permission
>porn is free because it costs you your soul
True man, its because we are the product
how many times do you guys masturbate and watch porn for it to be a drug, damn
Fuck out of here shill. You're probably in the same exact boat and don't even realize it.
it's a legit question, answer it
Not him but my guess is when it’s at least once a day and consistent enough to the point where if you skip it you feel that you missed out on something.
I have genuinely no idea how a lot of guys who have been jerking off to porn for years can say you are not addicted. But then again it is addict behavior to rationalize in whatever way possible.
at my worst I was masturbating every couple of hours. I'd COOM even though my dick was flaccid and even though I didn't really want to.
I've been trying to stop for about a month now it feels impossible I'm not even gooning hard just once a day at night but i just can't stop
The hardest part for people is making a habit out of.... not doing habitual things. Masturbation is typically a symptom of boredom. You are not choosing to do engaging, difficult things ENOUGH to overcome your willingness to give in to desire.
If you physically exercise enough, and mentally exhaust yourself enough through work, artistic endeavor, or pursuit of REAL WOMEN IN A HEALTHY MANNER then you won't have the time or energy to overcome your reservations about masturbating. It is a bad habit, like anything dopamine-related.
You can stop, you just don't want to stop enough to follow through.
Coomer mindset. You have to unlearn the habit of jerking off before you could ever appreciate the joy of love with a woman.
You live an uninspired life, regardless of what you say.
so you are saying you NEVER has free downtime where you just lurk IST, watch some movie crack some beers etc? For me often alcohol makes me horny and it easy to relapse back into jerking off in such situations. But sometimes i am too tired after week of wagecucking to do more mentally taxing things
>wagecucking
oof 🙁 imagine doing nofap while wagecucking at the same time, that's like full cucking
Give me a a decent looking wife and not only will I stop but I will proceed to fuck her everyday and make her insides molded to the shape of my cock.
>tl:dr no
>Give me a a decent looking wife and not only will I stop
you wont. If you have porn/masturbation addiction, a woman wont help it. Why do you think so many guys have ed towards women? They watch the most beautiful women in the world do whatever they want and then they get with their dumpy lazy 6/10 wife that lays there on the bed and your brain is like
>lol what is this? This isnt the two hot blonde 10/10s you showed me yesterday, i dont want that
And you go back to fapping. Tons of marriages get destroyed by porn. If you have no self control now, a woman wont fix that.
Where are you getting your porn?
Most mainstream porn is ugly bimbos with fake tits or meth addicts.
And amateur is full of ugly girls and fatties.
People still jerk off to them.
Nah, the reason is not the beauty but the variety. Try to only watch porn of the same cam slut for a whole month and you'll see how it becomes boring very quickly.
> Nah, the reason is not the beauty but the variety
Confirmed. I’ve definitely fapped to women less attractive than my wife
Hard disagree, I was basically married to a single Lily Thai/Cytheria Squirt vid for a decade. I still go back to it when nothing else will do.
God damn anon I know exactly what video you're talking about. Hope your year goes well stranger. I don't even think I'd like Asians if it weren't for Lily Thai
Right? She’s so bubbly for the camera and that giggle makes me diamonds. Cytheria seems to be looking better with her newer stuff. When she first came out of retirement you could tell she had been on some hard drugs because she looked like Mumra.
Yeah you’d be surprised. I somehow lucked out and got basically my dream woman at 21. Was an absolute miracle I found someone so hot who was down to have sex all the time. Yet I still watched porn and masturbated and it still fucked with my head. It’s absolute poison.
No that shit about false expectations when you get with a woman that isn't as hot as a pornstar is just women inserting their insecurities and making it about themselves. The actual problem is the dopamine receptors. One woman with never provide as much stimulation as being able to view 10+ plus women in one porn watching session even if the women in porn are ugly as fuck and the girl in front of you is hotter than any porn you watch. The problem is frying your dopamine receptors being able see more naked woman in a week than Genghis Khan his entire life.
>Tons of marriages get destroyed by porn
Because bitches think you touching your own peepee is cheating on them even when they refuse to have sex with you. We are in a gynocentric age and in the early stages of total societal collapse. It won’t get better in anyone posting’s life time. The best thing men can do is walk away. Even in marriage take Patrice O’neal’s advice eat her pussy make her cum and then go jerk off with dignity. Make her realize you don’t need her, make her compete for you.
I watch porn because my fiance has gotten fat and doesn’t suck dick.
I’m afraid if I quit porn and jacking off, I will cheat on her. She’s starting to lose weight now, but I’m not the most attracted to her.
>fiance
You might want to make some changes before it's too late
>oy vey he's trying to help people, I'll call him a garden gnome so people ignore him and I continue to make sex shekels
Fuck off, Ye was right about you people
Post nose.
Why are you sucking some random black rapper's dick? What does it matter what he thinks one way or the other?
And why are you confusing who is replying to what?
Are you legitimately retarded?
I did that for months last year. Didn't do anything. At least it's something to do
>I'm completely happy with my life
still coom everyday
>I'm extroverted and sociable
still coom everyday
>I fuck my hypersexual gf 2-3 times a day
still coom everyday
>I have great grades, am an efficient worker and haven't missed a workout in years
still coom everyday
most of your problems come from being retarded or simply as a symptom of the modern world. continue playing video games, continue watching porn and continue masturbating. the world is still shit but at least you'll be happy.
people be like "I must be stoic and deprive myself of all entertainment and post greek statues on the internet, RETVRN TO TRADITION" forgetting that they will kill themselves before they hit 30 because modern life is just different. unnatural amounts of dopamine flooding are required to cope with the unnatural reality of spending 10 hours a day in a wagecage.
A hearty shalom to you too rabbi
This post made me glad I’m not nearly as miserable as you.
Unnatural amounts of dopamine decrease your ability to stay inside a wagecage though.
If you are used to doing fun, pleasurable stuff outside work, you will find work excruciatingly boring and stressful.
severely based
it is not cooming what makes you less masculine
it is just being a fag
This, ignore anti-semitic NoFap threads. There is NOTHING wrong with elevated prolactin levels.
shalom
>continue playing video games, continue watching porn and continue masturbating. the world is still shit but at least you'll be happy.
>the world is shit
Well, I wonder why
There is no resistance. Your truck convoys meant nothing and achieved nothing other than give them more power. There is no saving the world so just pick up a fiddle.
This is what your ignorance has led you to, but the truth is that things have been decided.
>Things have been decided
Sure have, the market reset is well underway. You will own nothing and be happy as social credit kiosks are fired up across the world. Hope you don’t have resting bitch face.
Let me guess
>berg
>stein
>baum
where do i get that hoodie
not sure if serious just google
>under armour green/grey hoodie
You should find a similar one
Could it be that porn consumption is a symptom and not a cause?
After like two years of a healthy lifestyle I decided to “treat” myself with some good ol’ “home made POV redhead” video. I started rubbing it out and then I just felt bored, put the phone down and wacked it to a memory of a chick I fucked recently.
It's one of those void filling activities, so yes, in theory, if you find meaningful activities, the urges to watch porn goes away. I feel the same way about video games you feel about porn. The difference for me is the accessibility. For a game you have to sit down, load up and dedicate like an hour if active attention. But porn is always there if you have a smartphone. Boring meeting? There's porn. Code compiling? Porn. Wife's not in the mood? Porn. It's there, it's 0 effort, it's relatively quick. It's like a default thing you do between actual activities.
>if you find meaningful activities, the urges to watch porn goes away
Not really how it works exactly. People watch porn in order to fap, which in turn is done in order to satisfy sexual drive. You can't satisfy your sexual drive with lifting, hobbies, learning etc. At best you can do it to distract yourself.
The problem with nofap is that if you don't transition to regular sex with actual women, your brain will just enter a perpetual flatline because your body enters some sort of celibate mode once it realizes that cooming is off the table.
tl;dr there's no benefit to nofap unless you use it to start having actual sex
its been a month since pmo'ing and i dont feel like using porn ever again because,
1.I don't want to run away from my problems in a fantasy, I wanna see how far I go fixing life
2.I found that after nutting to porn nothing compares to it and everythings dull until looking forward to the next nut.
3.i'd rather use my imagination and not get these whores paid
I'll quit porn entirely and masturbation as much as I possibly can without imploding for this semester bros. I need a clearer head if I want to improve my shitty fucking grades. I'm retarded to begin with and cooming twice or thrice a day is not helping. I'm also a fucking virgin and about to turn 22 I'm starting to think that I should just fuck whenever I get the chance instead of waiting for a girl I actually love, because that will not happen.
>as much as you possibly can
If you are not capable of committing to stopping (you are capable, you just don't want to) then you should not set unrealistic and improper goals for yourself. You need to work harder on studies and prioritize social life after gym. Stop caring about things you can do in an unlimited amount later. Sex is sex and will come when it does. Stop fetishizing something that garden gnomes have sold to you as the only thing that matters.
I know sex is not everything and I'm willing to become a wizard if I'm unable to find a good girl. My bro, I WILL make it, we're all gonna make it.
Tf is a good girl
Any girl would cheat on you with me no cap
Nah, ur dick game too weak fr fr
There is no such thing as a good girl. Get a prostitute for fun, sell your sperm for genetic immortality.
Why would you pay for sex when it's so easy to get for free is everyone on this board a giga failure lol
You don't pay a prostitute for sex, you pay her to leave
I wouldn't wait for the love of your life. Sex is pretty overrated and until you realize that and stop chasing it your life will be pretty shit.
So you bros don't believe in love anymore? Did you ever do? Is it really that bad out there? I'm pretty clueless about this stuff as you can tell but it's always been my dream to have a nice family. I guess it's too much to ask nowadays. Wizardry is my fate then.
Yes it is that bad out there, both first and second hand. You are nothing but a wallet/credit card as they can easily send you beyond zero especially with a baby or alimony trap. Prenups are often ignored by judges. Just look for short term/sugar sites for a weekend at a time. The sugar sites and prostitutes are the most honest relationship you can have.
True but still gay that you complain
Idk man, perhaps it's my own character flaw that makes girls not like me, perhaps it's just me being antisocial and unable to connect with people in general. I 100% believed in love at one time but overtime that belief eroded into dust. First gf accused me of rape in my teens, we only ever hugged and held hands. (Thank to fuck my parents were on my side, I may have kms otherise). Second "gf" got me drunk and I guess 'raped' me (she was kinda fat and a decade older than me).
I'm not even angry or resentful, I just think I met with the true nature of women and men. It's not that I don't believe in love because I hate women, Its just I don't believe they are creatures capable of selfless love. How can I really hate those who only act within their nature?
I am at a place now that actually fucking is alot more effort than actually getting it, but it's still never worth it. After which I just feel so empty.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, feel free to let me know if I am. But for now I'm just focusing on the things that give beauty to my life and not really pursuing relationships.
have a nice day incel. Men can’t be raped.
Remember when that word had meaning?
Dude my ex accused me of sexually assaulting her and it was the most bullshit thing ever because she made the first moves and everything , some women are just crazy. Maybe eventually you will find someone that loves you, I did and I blew my chance with her because I’m a piece of shit. Work on yourself first and try being a good person with good morals
Damn man, sucks to hear that you flopped it. I had a childhood friend scenario basically handed to me on my lap but I was too much of an antisocial autist to connect with her.
I feel like all my future perceptions were painted by being accused of sexual assault, made me mistrustful of of people and women especially. And honestly it feels like they sense that.
But whatever, nothing I can do now besides kicking my vices and achieving my goals
Good luck with that seriously , all we can do is learn from our mistakes as well. I also have a hard time connecting with people so I know how you feel, because my ex accused me of SA and did a lot of other bad things to me it seriously made it hard to trust people again especially someone who you think you love
Good luck to you aswell my guy. WAGMI
Incel
Loser
NGMI
Fuck off pick me mother fucker. Enjoy having your balls raked over coals while paying for her house when the bull moves in.
Lmao enjoy jerking off to anime for the rest of your life while I build my family together with the love of my life
WAGMI, except that gay, he'll never make it
>Love of my life
Yeah too bad she loves three other people. Remember to blood test all of them with you present.
https://annsilvers.com/blogs/news/fake-pregnancy-and-paternity-industry-exposed
https://www.fakeababy.com/products/april-fools-day-prank-fake-dna-test-laboratory-style
That fake a baby, by the way, uses real hospitals. The woman just has to take a hair from your brush or some other sample and get it to the company and they take care of the rest. Great joke, right?
Maybe if you didn't spend so much time watching other people have sex, you wouldn't have cuckoldry living in your head rent free
I don’t, I use professionals that are upfront with the money grift. One lost house from a cheating whore is enough thank you very much.
Said cheating whore made you disbelieve in the concept of true love and makes you seethe on a udmurtian carpetbagging forum. Like I said, cuckoldry lives in your head rent free
Your wife is doing it to you. Just ask to see her snap or text messages. See how defensive she gets.
She doesn't get defensive, in fact sometimes she asks me to send a text on her behalf, probably because she doesn't cheat on me
>inb4 she has another phone
Sorry I'm not married to your ex-wife
>Send a text on her behalf
That doesn’t make you suHispanicious either? Leaving your phone unlocked is trust, having you fake being her is a manipulative tactic. She doesn’t need another phone, she covers her tracks better than that.
I don't see how sending "I'll be there by 8" to her friend because she's busy doing something else is suHispanicious.
You shouldn't take advice from bitter people because if you do what they do, you'll become just as bitter as them. The wreck you've become as a result of your failure is a much better warning than any consequence of shacking up with a loose woman
>Be blind like me
have a nice day moron. Warning sirens have been sounding and simps like you keep walking right into the meat grinder anyway. Good news is marriage itself is falling more and more every generation and celibacy is also on the rise. Equilibrium should be reached in another 50 years.
I’m not the guy you were arguing with but god damn lol you let your whore ex win by being such a fucking idiot after it all went down. Congrats, you bought her worldview completely, now you’re citing stats about cuckoldry and trying to convince everyone else to be as paranoid as you. I hope you find love again man, cause the path you’re on right now logically leads to no contentment of the self, just paranoia and fear and being a big bitch. Be a fucking man, grow up, and stop letting the ghost of that cunt ex ruin your fucking life.
There is no such thing as love. Full stop. Your mom loves, your grandma loves you. Why? Because you are essentially a piece of her and women can only love themselves. Once you know that you can use all other women accordingly.
>someone mentions any kind of positive relationship between a man and a woman
>you go into rage overdrive and post 30 studies about how women are whores
What 19 hours of internet a day does to a mf
I keep the shit saved because retards like you yell sauce then get mad when an mra has the receipts. I’m not saying don’t fuck women, I’m just saying don’t commit to women because they are incapable of committing to you.
Why do you protect your failures on others
Knowing and spreading misogyny is worth it if it protects just one dude. Women are whores and are not to be trusted. There is a reason every religion keeps them silent and locked in the kitchen.
she's cheating on you
Refute him then
(Please)
>love
>2023
that's the ticket to divorce lad
Thanks satan
there are evil men and evil women.
the majority of people on this planted are evil scumbas who think of themselves first. the only exceptions to this rule I have found to be within a church for females and the gym for males.
Your best bet to finding the perfect woman is becoming involved with a good church with a very active college and youth group. As long as you are attractive you will have many wonderful ladies attempting to court you. This is assumeing you are christian
The second best way is engaging in a IRL hobby (not video games) and finding people within that hobbypeople. Many of the pople with hobbies are more well adjusted than the tik tok addicted freaks of this generation.
my final advice is to
>stay off online dating
>be genuine. even one lie can ruin a relationship
>dont settle after a few dates
(make an effort, you are dating to marry, but dont get too invested)
>you can always change a woman's behaviors, but not her habits.
The world and the majority of people in it are lost. You just have to find someone with similar morals to you.
>t. engaged to the woman of my dreams (pic rel proof), helped three of my friends start relationships that still are continuing with this advice.
good stuff man, nice to see some positivity
im trying my man. ive seen the good in this wolrd and hope other anons can too
Did you miss the part about plucking them out of college/youth groups? If you can get em before they fall off or come back, then you dont need to worry. She will mold her beleifs to yours.
satan is the god of this world freind.
Ive found high school chicks to be total cheating sluts in ALL regards. they have 100s of horny dudes around them 7 hours a day; if they get bored they can and will cheat. The only solution to this is choosing a woman with a pre built moral and spiritaul code and helping her uphold it. Church/ The young women of the church.
THERE IS A REASON WOMEN WERE MARRIED OFF AT 16-18. If left to their own devices after this they can and will mess themselves up unrepairably. If you are able to take control DIRECTLY from her father. You will have pair bonding, aligned morals, her dependent on you is what you want and what females need. By all means, you can find a gem like I and
this anon here. But the key is finding a woman and convincing her she cannot live without you. This is easiest to do in the ways I have outlined. This is literally staded in the good word of god as well. everyone in this thread should read Ephesians 5
>16-18
Try 13-15
And did you miss the part I said that girls raised in the church immediately fall away the moment she is out of her childhood home? There is story after story about “christian” women turning 24-25 getting a divorce and signing up for OF because religion “oppressed” them. Those women become the biggest sluts on earth because of fomo on different types of dick. There is also the matter of the magical “one” God supposedly has for them plucked straight out of a Disney movie and not the bible. This hunt for “the one” easily mixes up the unidentified sin of lust and pussy juice for the holy spirit calling her to another man. Christian women are the worst.
The key is to make your wife happy. Most Christian guys are cucks and can’t do that, so their wives get bored and cheat. Also you don’t need to be religious to have good morals. China has one of the highest rates of virgin women at 18 and they’re basically agnostic
You can’t make a woman happy. On top you are being willfully ignorant. Fomo doesn’t come from her man not being good. They say with all earnesty their husband was strong and good in everything, they just felt shackled by brainwashing from their parents. It is the nature of women.
You can’t make other people happy. You can only make yourself happy. This is true of both sexes.
>Church for females
Those are the biggest whores. The life long ones always go crazy at 25 and run to only fans because of “missed opportunity” to ride the cock carousel or come into the church around 30 with at least one kid looking for her spiritual revirgining(that is a belief that is espoused regularly now, being born again or baptized gives a spiritual hymen). We are in the end times and love has fucking fled the scene. I might even argue the rapture did happen in 2012 and so few people were actually saved it was an event that went unrecorded because Christians don’t even know how to be saved. At any rate love is dead and feminists killed it.
Most 'people' are hylics
They are evil and materialistic by nature
>Junior High/High School for mint
>College for used but still decent condition
>Church is a Goodwill where the set likely doesn’t match but might be usable for a few more years. Buyer beware no refunds.
>Online is a yard sale/skeevy pawn shop. You are guaranteed to get a disease and the original owner might show up at your doorstep with a gun.
>tfw met my virgin 19yo wife in college when I was 24
I basically won the lottery. I feel bad for the guys getting sloppy seconds. Out of it all my gfs, none were virgins. I could tell my wife actually loved me the morning after I took her virginity. Never felt anything close to that with my gfs
>21khv, waiting to be in love to have sex
>all my friends are getting laid and going psycho over female drama
>"is sex really all that and a bag of chips..?"
>go on okcupid and fuck a tublordess
>"yeah that wasn't such a big deal after all, i'm going to just wait for a relationship again. i was right all along"
that was the last time i had sex, 10 years ago
Redpill: Weeping is manlier than cumming.
Testimonies of dudes on SR who make nearly daily videos
https://www.youtube.com/@vigorwarriors2823
https://www.youtube.com/@NanaTheSoul
https://www.youtube.com/@MonkModeForGod/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@Nineethervibez/videos
SR Benefits
1. General contentment, happiness, giddiness
2. More energy, vigor, brainpower
3. More drive, passion
4. Less insecurity, incredible confidence
5. Don't care about women as much
6. Feel like a man
7. Need less sleep
8. Feel and look healthier
9. Become much more charming, easier to make women laugh!
10. Making God proud
11. Self respect
12. Respect from others
13. Look younger
Strange thing to say but I agree
>Making God proud
If something is objectively bad why do some people feel the need to always drag god into the question? Like if I'm poisoning myself then I stop because I don't want to die and not because I want to please some metaphysical entity.
The rest of the list is alright tho.
Reddit moment
>SR Benefits
>1. General contentment, happiness, giddiness
>2. More energy, vigor, brainpower
>3. More drive, passion
>4. Less insecurity, incredible confidence
>5. Don't care about women as much
>6. Feel like a man
>7. Need less sleep
>8. Feel and look healthier
>9. Become much more charming, easier to make women laugh!
>10. Making God proud
>11. Self respect
>12. Respect from others
>13. Look younger
14. Prostate cancer
>14. Prostate cancer
Meh don't have it yet but my life is a lot better now so I would even be willing to live with that rather than going back to the depressing coomer lifestyle.
>muh prostate
Are you 50+ ?
>Giving a fuck about what other people think of you
Not gonna make it, m8
1. yes
2. yes
3. never had drive or passion for anything
4. yes
5. yes
6. dont know what this means
7. yes
8. feel healthier, look the same
9. yes
10. I hope
11. yes
12. don't know, maybe?
13. look the same
Crying is dope. Releases stress hormones. I don’t do it very often though. Has to be a favourite movie scene or something.
Would you consider some thumbnail in the periphery of your view as porn? Like I'm not even looking at them but I know what it is and just ignore it. Is that porn free?
If it's sexually stimulating and it's not another person in front of you then it counts
*your own imagination doesn't count
Instead of imagining sex you should imagine your whole body being cast into hell
*cums*
I’m a masochist bro
Its not stimulating. This is my second run, but I know during my first run it all went downhill when I started consciously looking out for them even if I didn't get aroused at first. I just like being here from time to time and it sucks that the catalog has coomer shit I have to ignore.
I get no porn, but wouldn’t stopping masturbation altogether cause more problems? I know you should be having sex but if I’m lucky I can maybe have sex 3 times a month but what about the months where you get no sex at all? Just be loaded up with cum?
You have no idea how much this helps workouts. It’s absolutely not a meme.
i haven't watched porn, masturbated or played vydia in almost 2 months. i'm still depressed, anxious, unmotivated and unfocused. there are much bigger issues in life, my friend. everyone should quit fapping but stop pretending like no fap is going to fix your life by itself because it absolutely fucking wont
I believe there are people who actually have real problems. But I also believe that for the vast majority: no porn, better sleep, better diet, regular human interaction and regular exercising is more than enough therapy.
Are you just spending every available hour sitting quietly and being depressed?
>t. former coomer
Give me motivation to how your life has changed OP plz. I'm on day 14 NoFap and I'm going fucking insane. This is easily my most brutal day of urges. Give me a light at the end of the tunnel I can look forward to if I keep holding the nut in
Why did you even start nofap? How should we know what your light at the end of the tunnel is?
Because OP made a thread as an ex coomer, I'm assuming he has some sort of positive reward for all this to report on?
Think about this - you said that you're going 'fucking insane' with only 2 weeks of not manually stimulating your dick. What could you do with that energy? What are you not taking care of in your personal life that you should be? Could you be rekindling friendships? Could you be growing your LinkedIn connections or improving a skillset? Do you play any instruments? Do you go out and meet people in public? Do you do anything worth planning ahead for and looking forward to?
The time you are spending worrying about 7 second of perceived enjoyment amounts to a lifetime of wasted potential. Do not waste this precious life on paltry things.
keep going. should tragedy strike and pmo is no longer in your life, you will be able to endure the pain without problems. if you're a coomer, then it will be painful. you will burn your youth away.
Hey just so you know, you can post this every single day for 100 years, and i won't stop fapping, i'm also not eating the bugs, not doing strenght training and i refuse to get into any relationship with women.
>The WEF wants you holding your nut in
Ya ok bro. This is the most amazing pico-Cope I've read all day
>im depressed
get some sunlight and make sure you're not deficient in nutrients
>im anxious
exercise and start not caring (it's literally that simple, anxiety isn't real)
>i cant get an erection
stop watching porn and masturbating
>i cant focus and have no motivation
because you live a meaningless life. not your fault though as it's the liberal capitalist society we inhabit causing this. only solution is revolution.
I did NNN and I wanted to do [redacted] do women I saw at the gym and I was even more anxious. Noporn is the happy middle friend.
I don't know if I have to quit jacking off completely but I need to absolutely stop doing it daily. Can't go more than 2 days without doing it and I'm realizing how often I'm scouring these shady ass websites looking for onlyfans leaks like some kind of crack addict and it needs to stop.
Dude same that describes how I felt to a T looking for some bitches leaked only fans and I ended up on a shady website making different accounts and stuff , it’s literally a drug because I feel my heart beat faster the closer I get to seeing the goods
should I cut my dick off?
I made my own changes
>stopped watching porn
>started listening to audio porn
>using it as a crutch until my imagination is better
>stopped cooming
>only edge unless I’m having sex with my wife
Things are terrific, barely miss the old extreme porn I was watching.
> audio porn
This motherfucker gets it
I get meditation and a wank in one. It’s perfect
what audio porn would you recommend? I know of shibbydex but I stopped messing with it because the hypnotic stuff was fucking with me when I was making my bed one morning and I just starting jacking it for like 45 seconds like i was possessed.
Hypnosis doesn't work, it might convince an IQlet to behave erratically but that's it. Aside from that there's some pretty vanilla audios on YouTube.
>"Watch your thoughts, they become your words; watch your words, they become your actions; watch your actions, they become your habits; watch your habits, they become your character; watch your character, it becomes your destiny.
Yeah, I guess it'd be best to just go cold turkey entirely at this point. Thank god I live with my gf and wasnt busy otherwise i was inches from relapsing into shit. I gotta stop going on /gif/
Meme advice for children and incels
Have sex
Porn is for losers who can't get sex
I wish i was born in 10 years later so i could deplete my cum and testosterone to cosplay whores of today.
Are you like 50?
Just be good looking lol
30 a week ago.
I'm 28 and still get 18yos
Are you bald or what
Not bald, 183cm/87kg. Just not appealing to women it seems.
Then why would when you were born matter
Maybe because of my past lack of success, now that i'm older the feeling that im "too old" to try creeps up on me. I know it's just in my head
I don't even watch porn anymore.
I listen to audiobooks and pause at the sex scene and just imagine it going the way I want it to while jerking off and cum every time.
I sometimes switch it up and do the same with reading books, too.
What's the big deal?
My imagination is enough to get aroused.
Porn sucks dick at getting me off.
I've quite porn, masturbation and dating apps.
Going through the flatline as we speak and I'm fucking miserable. I deserve this though.
Yeah most of modern depression is some weird form of hedonic boredom escaping pleasure seeking loops. That guy Mark Fischer talked about this (not a lefty but he had good points). It's a depression from overstimulation and too much information.
how the fuck can i quit porn when there is women like this
Women that you will never have?
yes, thats the point
>how can i quit porn when ugly onese women exist
Good reason to quit. You are so coom blinded you think those smelly skanks are hot
I’m almost 4 months in and I’m realizing nofap is not the cure to my social anxiety I’m still a virgin loser and now I’m also sexually frustrated give me a reason to not give up right now bros
I jerk off to porn typically once a day and I could easily fuck any chick I found attractive if she wanted to have sex at the drop of a hat. You have to be a low T gay to not be able to get it up for a woman.
OP is gay
Because I did exactly opposite of this
I only watch vanilla porn and fap to it and from past month I am happy af no porn is shit if you don't have GF who give you sex
if you go on no fap without having gf you just gonna end up more depressed
start fapping to good/normal porn and you will be happy
>Minimum wage isn't enough to live on let alone support a family
>Wow this other thing that doesn't have material control over me must be the issue
Are all you fags trust fundies that this is the source of your issue?
nothing wrong with jerking off on occasion (you need to drain your balls every now and then) but i agree that you shouldn't watch porn. personally, i read lewd novels written by women when i masturbate.
luv jerking off, simple as
I quit porn and masturbating a few months ago but still root my wife every day.
Am I still reaping benefits? Sex has gotten better.
>Stop playing video games
No
>01/90
I'm on it, Bosu!
I haven't coomed for 3 months and this is the truth and solution. I always failed on week 2 or so but now I have NO desire to touch myself but I would ravage any woman that shows interest in me and my boners are diamonds at all times. Noporn and nofap work guys. Hang in there and you WILL resp the rewards.
I can't attract a woman, so there is no point in regulation of my behavior to this level of detail. Perhaps I'd be more healthy if I had a stronger willpower than my base instincts, but such health is wasted on a lifetime without any female attention, and therefore the effort isn't worth it, in my opinion.
>Having all the naked women you could ever imagine right in front of you
Important note: none of it is real, and it's a cope for an otherwise unfulfilled sexual appetite. One of the purest forms of measuring sex drive is frequency of masturbation, and asking men to part from their sex drives 'lest we be destroyed' is pretty retarded.
Obviously, someone who spends every waking minute of the day jacking off is damaging himself, but obviously, that doesn't apply to the average young man who at most orgasms at least once a day, at minimum, two or three times a week.
Just moderate your behavior. I can enjoy alcohol if I want, I can enjoy a smoke if I want, I jerk off if I want. I can enjoy an odd heavy meal and I can enjoy periods of overexertion. I look and think fine. The only way I come up short is that I'm a 5'9" manlet with a less-than-striking skull shape and facial structure, and thus women are not attracted to me.
>I can't attract a woman
And have many times have you attempted to do so and in what ways?
>inb4 haven't even asked a girl out ever
After I was 17, when I noticed that I fancied my female peers, I'd approach them with romantic intentions and ask them out on a date. This happened when I was 17 and I met my first unrequited love, then happened when I was 19 and met my second, then happened twice in a year when I was 21. I'm now 22 and concluded that I'm undesirable to women, or at least my female peers in the west. After all, I've never even been approached by a woman myself even after I've witnessed multiple chadstrucks occur in person.
I'm pretty intent on careermaxxing right now, so that I might be able to afford to betabuxx my way into the arms of a non-westoid woman, and I will move out of the anglosphere once that is completed. Humans are fundamentally evil all across the board, and live is a zero sum game. To the extent that love does exist, it is only offered by parents to their biological children, any yearning for love is just a byproduct of social maladaptation caused by being unloved or unwanted as a child, and I'm fully accepting of that. It doesn't matter what happens as long as I do what I can and I have my copes nearby.
4 times is pretty unlucky but it means nothing in the grand scheme of things, you should not give up or conclude that you are undesirabla
that being said, self improvement and putting effort into your own life in general will obviously be helpful
I didn't give up, but I rightly conclude I am undesirable to my female peers here in the west. There are things I can leverage outside of the anglosphere which I can't here, so that is why I'm focusing on building my career.
I think the nofap discussion is guided by cranks and faddish young men looking for something novel as the answer to their problems. Well, the problem of "how do I get stronger" isn't a big one. Nothing is new under the sun. Exercise and perseverance is all it takes to acquire strength.
It will be unhelpful in the long run to adopt the ways of fads, because fads come and go (are you still eating raw onions?) and it will be unhelpful in the long run to consider a crank's pet theory to be the universal solution to life's problems. I drink, I smoke, I gamble, I eat heavy meals on occasion, I buy superfluous objects, I indulge in erotic material, etc, but I am not an alcoholic, I'm not a smoker, I'm not a gambler, I'm not a fatass, I'm not a hoarder or a snob, and finally, I'm not a wanker.
Try 40 times then 400 times. Every year there's shit loads of girls turing into your desired age.
>fall in love 40 times bro
Zozzle
I'm nearly working full time at this point
>I’m actually a good looking guy
Hence why you're not only partnered but a woman approached YOU.
>Rejection isn’t always your fault
Rejection is no one's fault. I was simply born the wrong skeletal configuration.
Nah, that's just the reverse halo effect. If I had said the same things but just instead with a success at every turn, you'd be praising me for whatever the not bad thing is. Simpleton
Ok but I’ve had 3 hot gfs and been married for 5 years now, and got rejected dozens of times. You’ve been rejected 4 times and gave up as a result? You’re overreacting. Most women are taken and will reject you because of that, even if they find you attractive
This.
It's called "resilence" anon, have fun screwing up and learning to talk to people. Take responsability for your failures aproaching woman, and find a mission outside of it. If you obsess over it, you will fall in a hole in your mind and wont be able to think clearly. This is just a game, keep playing until you hit the jackpot.
Women have approached you, the situation is not even remotely comparable.
No one is doing that.
>Even chad gets rejected all the fucking time
As evidenced in the thread, he clearly doesn't get rejected ALL the time.
>The difference is he realizes women are all the same, so he says fuck it and goes and asks another 20 women until one agrees to fuck him
This is cope. You just want it to be true for yourself.
>Take responsability for your failures aproaching woman
No one is responsible for rejection, I was just born with the wrong skeletal proportions. Taking on responsibility for misfortune is just a manifestation of your own neurosis, it's not going to make you any more like the chad you worship.
>This is just a game, keep playing until you hit the jackpot.
Again, cope, it's not when you have to constantly gaslight yourself into believing this
Seriously the worst part about incels is obsessing over one woman. They get rejected once and think they’re genetic trash. Even chad gets rejected all the fucking time. The difference is he realizes women are all the same, so he says fuck it and goes and asks another 20 women until one agrees to fuck him
I must have asked out dozens of girls between 18-21 and got rejected every time. My first gf was literally a model tier sports players with huge tits that asked me out after class. Second gf I met on tinder. Third gf (my wife now) asked me out as well - we were in the same lab group for a class. I’m actually a good looking guy, lots of women are just emotional incels or get intimated easily. Rejection isn’t always your fault
Just by the way you type in thinking it's your personality. You sound like you wear a fedora
I always ignore these discussions in general but sell me on this.
>i jerk off 1-2 times a day(normally once)
>20-30 hours of vidya a week
>work 8-5 100% remote from home with low workload
>workout during work from home (got mini gym)
what else am I supposed to do if I don't jerk off or play games? Most of my mates moved from where I live and I am still improving my body to start tinder farming again - maybe in 6 months.
Also, am I actually going to see a change or is this a meme? I'm down to try it but if its something I gotta do for multiple months before I see the slighest of change I ain't buying it.
Is the masturbating part bad because you lose T? What about the chads that fuck twice a day?
>what else am I supposed to do if I don't jerk off or play games?
Find other hobbies, learn new skills? If nothing else then just read books to work out your brain.
>Also, am I actually going to see a change or is this a meme?
If you're looking for mythical nofap superpowers then it's a complete meme. Nofap is a tool, and as such it can be useful for some people and useless for others. Couple of good reasons to start nofap:
>no interest in actual women / mental erectile dysfunction with actual women
>porn addiction (compulsion to watch it)
>cooming addiction (compulsion to achieve orgasm multiple times a day)
>wasting a ton of time fapping
>escalating porn tastes (I mean some people literally describe starting with regular straight porn and ending up at actual gay porn)
If you don't have any of these problems then nofap is probably useless for you. It's the same with alcohol for example, most people can have a healthy relationship with alcohol consumption and they don't need to worry about it, while others get addicted and ruin their lives.
>lonely and anxious
just stop jerking off bro
>now i am not only mentally lonely, but i can't have the physical release either
fantastic way to deprive yourself of basic feelings
if i am never, ever, going to get a woman, then why not jerk off?
>another one
You're not incapable of getting a woman, it's just easier to tell that to yourself as it gives you an excuse not to even try
Just shut the fuck up please god stop projecting yourself onto other people
I know my life, i know myself
Stop letting tard tier bait provoke you
ppl when it comes to fitness: omg im gonna be natty and look like the greek statues i just have to be dedicated and work hard enough i know it will happen if i try (it will happen)
ppl when it comes to women: oh my gosh i will never get a gf, literally nothing i can do in this life that will improve my chances with women it's not like there was a woman who was ever intensely attracted and obsessed with a guy who was 5'5 (but to be fair height doesn't show on pics) but oh no i will never get a gf
basically what i'm saying is i believe in you (especially if you have cool hair)
One of those correlates 1:1 with your objectives after birth
One correlates 1:1 with factors completely out of your control, or factors that you most likely will struggle to shake, like your socioeconomic bracket
I fucking hate this cope, no, not everyone can get a gf, end of fucking story, stop comparing apples to oranges
*objectives and efforts
but fit guys are hot and if anything else is lacking personality could make up for the rest
You are huffing some mega copium
c o p e
No anon if no woman has ever been attracted to you then you're not allowed to have sexual release. It makes anons online upset if other men are touching themselves. Just the rules we all have to follow.
there are so many women in the world, and i'm pretty sure you look better than pete davidson, attraction can be very psychological in a way that's independent of looks, that being said i fully suport fapping, and before i used to laugh and wonder why people who did no fap would do that to themselves but then i discovered something that is potentially personally beneficial about others doing no fap so i fully support that too now
>there are so many women in the world
Why haven't I found one interested in me then?
Because you didn't look long and hard enough (or at all)
I've looked harder and longer than you can imagine, and turned up with nothing.
do you have a theme? an idea you represent? anime has character tropes for a reason, it's because they know that's what appeals to people
>you didn't look
>I looked
>... ... ...
>sperg out about anime like a schizo
Unrelated but hilarious, bro.
anime is merely an example, but streamers of all apparances manage to have parasocial relationships with their audience, if you tap into the consonant energies of the fundemental frequency within, you can maximise your attractiveness, but you can increase your attractiveness by adopting an archetype or an aesthetic, even now there is potential in you, loneliness itself has become an aesthetic, but seeing that you're on fit you are probably going to gyms and increasing your fitness, being that loner guy at the gym that goes hard and listens to their music of choice is big main character energy, there is a complex story within all of us, and people really like engaging in stories
The anime retard is another anon. So what do you mean you looked harder and longer than I can imagine?
I meant the same degree of self extrapolation that you meant by suggesting the length of time I've been looking and the degree to which I've been looking, despite you not even knowing who I am.
there are many women looking for you, but they can't find you, yet if you look for those same women, the chances that they will miss you is very high, which is unfortunate
So you're saying you never asked a girl out on a date?
Well now I'm saying you're retarded
Oh yeah, good, so where are they?
>I know that out of 4 billion women in the world, 0 could ever become attracted to me
please, this message is for anyone that struggles with any sort of problematic use of any substance or addiction of any kind, read "the freedom model for addictions" by Baldwin Research
you can get the book on libgen.is for free
Nofap and noporn always makes me want to fuck twinks, I'll stay straight thanks
lmaoo it's you, you are the type of guy i was talking about, this is why i have changed my mind and become supportive of people who do nofap xD imagine getting psyopped into lifting for twinks, the pure comedy
I just found out I'm going to be losing my job. So fuck you I'm gonna coom. And also drink.
so many people losing their jobs in 2023, me too probably as there is already work freezes in project yet i dont cry and make job my whole identity, stop being such a bitch you should have some money saved anyway
Dude probably makes min while you sound like some twitter gay who was paid to have play dates. Some people have to struggle to live.
im addicted to youtube, which is not much better
my porn laptop died last night, and as I was changing outlets and making sure everything was plugged in correctly I was hoping it wouldn't start back up so that I finally could
lol you have a laptop dedicated to porn? >///< or is it your designated laptop for watching porn?
how is it copium? personality + muscles is a victory scenario, even though someone having muscles already signals that they put in effort and hard work
please tell me how, i know its killing me but its one of the few outlets i have, if i don't jack off i get this sexual frustration that just boils over and makes me irritable and angsty.
This is normal with addiction, the "angst" is common with people trying to quit nicotine, it's mental dependence on a substance. It's basically your monkey side of your brain trying to find justifiable reasons to relapse which will "convince" the logical part of your brain. It's usually an emotional mental arguement such as "I'm so stressed, I need it to de-stress" or "im so annoyed by this, I'm going to jack off to calm down" This flat lines after 3-4 weeks so you're in luck. You only have to endure that feeling for a month.
I realized as i was typing that "wait a minute isn't this was chain smokers say about quitting cigarettes" Do you have any tips for those first 3-4 weeks? The longest ive gone without beating off is maybe 3 weeks since i was 11, it feels like an impossible mountain to climb but i know it needs to be done
The way I did it was I travelled for two months, minimal phone usage doing stuff everyday, but this isn't practical for everyone. What you can do instead is keep yourself occupied, ensure that your day is filled with activity so by the end of day you're tired enough to fall asleep instantly. You want to avoid idle moments like the plague.
If feeling stressed perform another destressing vice such as video games.
Write down what "que's" you have for relapse; where you are and what you're doing when you tend to relapse. If laying in beds a hot spot you need to ban all smarttech from your room and ensure you're tired enough to fall asleep fast.
If your PC is a hotspot consider not using it for 3 months.
I would take extreme measures like keeping your phone by the door: for the next three months you're only allowed to use that device when off the property. I want you to view your phone as a needle full of heroine, which in this context it might as well be.
3 months is the minimum time it can take for habits to fade and form, so after 3 months you should be able to reincorporate phone usage around the house etc. If you make it to this point your brain begins to heal, all you have to do is stay vigilant and busy to maintain this new lifestyle.
idle hands and bored minds are for sure a catalyst for relapsing and have been in the past, I'll do my best to keep busy, If i can make it until the end of February ill be beyond elated. Wish me luck bros.
Not that anon but for me it was essential to avoid suggestive media cause seeing a naked woman would make my brain start bargaining for a fap immediately, you don't want that. When I stopped going to brown boards on IST my chances of success were a lot greater. it's not easy to avoid all media but it helps greatly.
Maybe start reading or learn another skill with the time you used to fap.
true this board often got me to relapse just with softcore suggestive images and webms, I do have a ton of books to finish, and im hoping to put a dent into that. also wtf is a brown board
I'm on day 6 SR after being a chronic coomer for months(cooming 2-3 times every day) and it has honestly been really easy. Not that many urges. Is this a bad thing? Do I have low libido
im trying
I finally stopped last month after noticing signs of PIED. I was a frequent enjoyer of lengthy 4-5 hour masturbation marathons and it was getting to the point where I was jacking with a half-chub most of the time. Probably not very healthy regardless of the porn aspect.
Right now the morning woods have returned and I had some porn related dreams two weeks in but those have stopped now. I haven't tried masturbating so I'm not sure how the PIED recovery is going.
I’m just sick of my wife having such shitty sexual desire. I give her foreplay, oral, make sure she cums multiple times when we have sex, and she still only wants sex 1-2 weeks out of the month. During those times I never watch porn or masturbate but I find myself relapsing every time she’s dry or turns me down for sex. Really thinking of cheating at this point
She obviously is on you, but you will pay double if you get caught. Congrats, you have fallen into cheaper to keep her territory.
Nah she isn’t, I work from home as a software engineer and she’s a stay at home wife. I’m around her 24/7
give this a go
This was what the contract of marriage used to be. You get a home and children I have unlimited access to your pussy.
Can nofap unironically fix your motivation?
>be coom addict
>also considering getting tested for ADHD
Is there a solid chance that my lack of focus and motivation is caused by my porn addiction?
What do you use to jerk off if not porn? And don't say my imagination.
Is erotic literature a good substitute?
>Is erotic literature a good substitute?
Damn, good idea
ayoo this is based i haven't finished reading it yet
Id love to see a brain scans of a hardcore porn/fap addict. Then each month after they quit for six months. Inb4 the brain on porn site scans. Ive seen those. Thats just on porn not on. I want to see the progression
Offtopic thread retard. Not fitness.
Mental fitness IS fitness
>Do no fap no cum no porn for all of January
>2 weeks in lose all libido real monk mode shit
>Take a sleeping pill last night and have a wet dream
>Horny as fuck today
It's not fair
>Binge fap before doing nofap.
Fap to porn 5-10x in one day. Completely gut yourself so that you can be drained of desire to do so again. If you just fap normally one day and then try no fap the next day it probably won't work. You HAVE to INJURE your desire initially so you can get a head start on day 1.
>Ice Cold Showers.
Get over the initial discomfort. It'll take maybe a week. Man up. Get into the icy water, accept it, showering slowly and methodically. After a week or two you'll probably never consider taking a gay comfy hot shower again. Ever.
>Change your subtler habits.
This is the biggest one. Lay in bed like most people for 1-2 hours before getting up? STOP THAT SHIT. Simply laying in bed makes your brain associate with fapping. Shock your brain into adapting to a new routine. Limit access to IST and other coomer temptation sites. Limit phone use. Move your PC to a more public area of the house, or by a window.
>Enjoy your flatline.
Enjoy it. It seems shocking and scary at first, but honestly wtf do you expect after jacking off for 10+ years? Your brain HAS to reboot. Use the flatline as time to focus on other activities. Once again, shock your brain. Your sex drive WILL NOT disappear for long. You are biologically written to have it resurge in another way. And speaking of resurging…
>Meditate. Period. Or your addiction will resurge.
You HAVE to understand your desires in order to beat them. It is NON NEGOTIABLE. It will take weeks, maybe months. Wake up earlier, stretch, and then meditate. 30 minutes minimum ever single fucking day. Watch your thought patterns like you watch TV. Become distinctly aware of how you constantly FEEL about any given subject -- especially sex. You've taken your feels for granted until this point -- but its time to confront them and understand where your porn addiction truly stems from. I can tell you where it could* stem from, but it won't mean shit to you. YOU have to see it and feel it to control you, or your addiction will RESURGE time and time again. Understanding level 1 is key to moving onto level 2 in life.
>Make your wallpapers on your phone and PC be of yourself when you were young and happy.
Every time you login you'll be forced to glance at that happy little kid. You'll have a son one day, will he struggle as this small boy did? Or will YOU be a light unto him? Every time you feel the clammy urge well up inside you to look at thots on the internet glance at that wall paper and realize that little boy lived more fully than you are now. Get that kid back. Honor him.
>Learn to forgive yourself.
The final and most painful step. You've sexually ABUSED yourself for years, possibly decades. Meditate until you see the truth of this. Meditate for weeks on this if need be. Realize that your no fap journey may be the first and last step towards forgiveness. Forgive yourself truly, so that you can forgive others who have wronged you. Life is too short.
>Nofap is ULTIMATELY hell
Understand where NoFap fits into your healing process. As a long term solution (long term meaning 1-2 years plus) it is hell. Nofap largely revolves around streaks, discipline, etc. Against drinking, drugs, and other external factors discipline is needed. But against your basest of desires— the need to reproduce? It will be a war that will NEVER end. Nofap's short term implementation is to be blessed. Its long term utility is a curse. As mentioned above, ONLY understanding will cure you of your porn habits. DO NOT BE SISYPHUS. Stop pushing the boulder up the hill, and start to understand the nature of the boulder, the hill, the body, and your relationship to the gods, and only then can you conquer the mount.
>B-but I don't want to fap again ever
Good. But understand disciplining yourself isn't the way to stop fapping. And expecting selfish benefits from no fap will only lead to disappointment. Benefits come from new, healthy routines, productive days, meaningful interactions, and introspection. All of these things lead to improved lifestyles.
>The good path:
Nofap leads to Noporn leads to healthy fapping
>The great path :
Nofap leads to Noporn leads to meaningful interpersonal sexual experiences
>The blessed path:
Nofap leads to Noporn leads to Nosex (which does require mountains of discipline, and should only be attempted by those who truly want to devote their lives to God, creation of "great works" , and discovery or revelation of universal truths-- don't waste your time half heartedly committing to this Nosex.).
Remember my suns, Masturbation and Meditations are two poles of the same sexual energy within all of us.
Blessed unto thee.
Go unto God.
>Nosex
>God
LMAOOOOOOO
Christcucks deserve to go extinct. You gays will do anything to subvert healthy discipline and turn into a life denying death cult.
Go whip yourself with a rod you Nature hating desert minded semite worshipper
coomer detected
3 years ago I started trying no fap after fapping multiple times a day for 6+ years
it took me 1.5 years to get to 2 weeks
then another year to get to 2 weeks again
December last year I got 3 weeks before failing on December 31st
am now on day 32
never stop trying bros
I'm on day 13 because my ex said something that has shaken me to my core since we met up the other week:
>You're still watching porn?
I can't get that sentence and the look of pity she gave me out of my head.
You’re still talking to your ex? That is way more pathetic than cranking it.
I needed to grab the last of my shit from her apartment and we grabbed lunch after because why not.
Get your shit and get out. Why would you even discuss anything beyond that? Let alone eat together?
lmao, the way your ex lowkey psyopped you to remember her when you watch porn, that's next level
I need help bros, I don't watch porn- but what I do is probably far worse.
I keep a giant rolodex of all of the nudes and dirty texts all of my ex girlfriends have sent me, and jerk of to those instead. This has probably done some damage to my current relationship, and the previous ones I've had (which have provided me with my well stocked spank bank).
I just can't bring myself to nuke the folder and send these photos to oblivion, but it seems like it's far worse psychologically to be reliving these experiences and comparing them directly against my current sex life with my gf. Any advice?
ask your gf to pretend to be your exes? lol idk, but that's interesting, i haven't deleted my nudes from convos with exes because i trust them not to leak them, and am fine with them enjoying them if they want but i also never look back once it's over, but i guess maybe find what you like especially about those texts and photos and find ways to incorporate it with your gf, and also there's the possibility that you might be still into your exes' personality, and how you knew eachother, inside jokes, etc and that would be more of a complicated issue
What’s wrong with masturbating a few times a week? No porn, no pictures, just jacking off. It’s not like I’m a giga coomer I just have HL and I don’t feel drained or anything when I do it, it’s what feels natural to me