BRB 20 inch arms curling 20kg dumbbells and huge delts overhead pressing 80kg. Newsflash morons, I do 15 sets per muscle group hence why I am big and morons who fell for rippetoe shit squat 500lbs and have legs half the size of mine.
HAHHAHAHAA imagine falling for that shit. BRB you spent years squatting multiple times a week to look like this BAHAHAHA
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have you considered they wanted a purely strength focused regiment?
but why would anyone want that? you can do powerbuilding and get like 90% of the same strength gains PLUS look good, or you can get 100% of the strength gains and look like garbage
unless you're a fat homosexual who can't stop shoving his mouth with food that wants to get on gear and compete in powerlifting competitions, there's never a reason to do 100% strength based programs
powerbuilding le dumb and moronic
t. french natty man
This might sound complicated but I'll do my best.
Strength (for reps) and size are pretty closely tied generally.
But when you're looking at strong guys who aren't very big, you're nearly 100% of the time seeing them on the internet. And when you're talking about big guys, you're thinking about guys you see IRL in your gym.
The problem is this: the guys on the internet who are stronger than their size receive a disproportionate amount of attention due to that. Meanwhile big guys IRL you see them if you see them, there's no selection criteria that only makes you see a jacked 220lb guy who can OHP 275 & not the one who can 'only' do 225. You see big guys who are middle of the road strong (for their size). Meanwhile on the internet the guys this big are like 15% stronger just because that's how the cream rises to the job RE eyes on videos & who's popular. The average internet guy is top of the bell curve strength for his size, & the average big guy IRL is middle of the bell curve strength for his size. He might bench three plates for 12 and you're slightly confused because you expected four plates for 12 but that's because internet content has skewed your mind.
That's a pretty interesting theory. But I think the reason is youtube gym guys are like 90% manlets. Like you're not benching 315 eight times at 175.. but you might if you're unusually short. Meanwhile the big guys in your gym are average height, on average, so they need to be like 30-40lb heavier to push the same weights the youtube manlets do
nobody talks about this enough!
the vast majority of fitness 'influencers' are less than average height, and on top of that they are also roiding to hell and back
Agreed. All the guys benching even 110kg+ for reps I've seen IRL are fricking jacked. The internet skews your vision of what an average man who gets strong will look like
>internet content has skewed your mind.
It's this 100%. Same reason we have incel lookmax threads, endless bickering, demoralization, etc. You have a group of people that spend all day looking at the top 1% and wondering why they don't stack up. Put the phone down, close your laptop, and go connect with people in real life. You're not miserable because you aren't "stacking up" against some perceived competition, you're miserable because you're comparing your existence to people/images/ideas that have been curated to elicit a knee jerk emotional response. You don't have a real life because you choose to exist on the internet 90% of the time. Of course you feel weird when you're forced to actually participate in reality.
>the royal "you", if it wasn't clear
Test your 1RM for the basic compounds. If your upper body muscles are big, you will have fairly large 1RM. Upper body muscles are closely correlated with isometric torque and 1RM.
Legs are much more involved as far as motor learning is concerned so it will not be nearly as high as if you did if you did low reps sets with heavy weight.
Every bodybuilder has a video of them benching like 400 pounds, look at ronnie and arnold. You’rr supposed to use periodization to cycle them, its called phase potentiation. Getting stronger allows you to use heavier weights on your hypertrophy day/block/whatever. Hypertrophy blocks/days can give you a break from intensity and switch from mechanical tension to high volume, thus changing the stimulus. Volume destroys joints longer term, strength increases injury risk. Thats why we do something called a middleground
Blocks are for powerlifters because they need to build muscle but also be good at maxing out at a particular time (meet time). Bodybuilders training blocks are basically hypertrophy training 100% of the time except for occasional deload
>be bodybuilder
>on season
>starved, dehidrated and carb depleted
>roided
>connective tissue injury risk through the roof
>oh yeah lets go for that bench press PR
>LIGHTWEIGHT BAY-ACK
there is a propper time for everything, and the potentiation works for a hypertrophy session. If you want to do a 60%1rm set of 15-20 you can do before 1 or 2 reps at 70%rm after the warm up and the working set will feel amazing because your body gets used to higher weights than you are going to work with.
High rep low weight works way better than low reps high weight if your injury risk is high
>still hasn't posted body
I dont know why you people think you cant just do heavy squats and then leg extensions for 4x10
very interesting. post body.
Damn, you must look amazing. Post your body
But can you squat 500 pounds?
Size and strength go hand in hand. The problem is that morons are overspecializing to strength before building a solid muscular base. Bigger muscle is always a stronger muscle.
>Bigger muscle is always a stronger muscle.
Not if you don't have the nervous system and connective tissues to use them.
>bragging about huge legs
Oh no
>lifting competitions start measuring lifts as a multiple of the person's body weight
>you get weighed right before the lift and then the amount you lifted is divided by your BW and the resulting number is your score
>you can still track your absolute numbers, but only the relative numbers are used when comparing performance
There, lifting is now fair.
powerlifting has weight classes
You do realize that they have weight classes, right? God damn this board doesn't lift at all
This myth will never die because it is the founding mythology of the gym industrial complex. If people realize that strength and size are two different things, there is no reason to do powerlifting anymore - instead people would do bodybuilding.
And bodybuilding is something you can easily do in a home gym. Only powerlifting needs a professional gym due to the volume of weights needed.
If people would do bodybuilding instead of powerlifting, gyms all over the world would close down due to lack of customers and the gym industrial complex would be ruined.
gym patrons, famously 90% powershitters sitting on the deadlift platform with 10 45's and not dyels doing the machine rodeo or running on a treadmill for the sole purpose of trying to look more in shape.
How do you "do bodybuilding" and why is every big bodybuilder enormously strong?
Almost all succesful bodybuilders lift heavy fricking weights. And a sizeable portion of bodybuilders focus on strength for size, see Mentzer/Dante/Yates etc.
Even someone like Mike O Hearn is incline bench 400 lbs.
Maybe you'll see a bodybuilder doing squats with 365, but he'll be doing it for 30 and paused. Bet your DYEL ass can't even do that shit for ONE rep without half squatting it.
>Maybe you'll see a bodybuilder doing squats with 365, but he'll be doing it for 30 and paused.
Exactly. I saw a clip a bit ago of Nick Walker deadlifting 5pl8 for 10 and I thought that isn't that heavy for his size, but I watched it and every rep was perfect. Really slow eccentric, explosive concentric and he was 100% isolating the glutes+hams.
I can do the same weight for the same reps but it'd look fricking dogshit in comparison
Exactly. And he probably progressed that form from 4 to 5 plates. How else is he going to grow? Sure, he could make the eccentric even slower, use even stricter form, or adjust his positioning to focus even more on a certain bodypart, add a deficit etc. But at some point it'll become a circus act if youre doing stiff legged deficit deadlifts with a 10 second eccentric
No one in thread posts lift or body,
Who will have bigger legs. A guy squatting 60kg for 12 or a guy squatting 200kg for 12? A guy db incline pressing 20kg for 12 or a guy db incline pressing 50kg for 12? The stronger you are, the heavier weight you can use, the bigger muscle and more hypertrophy you will get.
you seem to miss the point.
Your Strength, especially in the 6-20 rep range is tied to your size. the stronger you are the bigger you are
Why do people think you don't get stronger when training for bodybuilding? Just because strong people are sometimes big doesn't mean you have to do SS non stop
because people don't realize that strength and size are actually correlated but on individual level, yes a smaller guy can be stronger than another bigger guy, but if you get a single one person, they will always get stronger the bigger they are
you understand that the "strength and size are tied together" thing applies to you only relative to yourself right?
Like when the guy in the pic was squatting 60kg im sure his legs were much smaller. You cant just point out some scrawny guy lifting big weights and shout
>look! strength doesnt matter because this guy is small!
Because they are the outlier.
Also i think specifically with the squat, form and body mechanics can affect how much you lift much more more proportionally to other lifts because you are moving two joints at once over a large range of movement while balancing the weight from shoulder height. Then you have stuff like lowbar allowing the posterior chain to take a lot of the weight, barely hitting parallel like in OP pic that allow someone to move even MORE weight than they already were due to perfecting form. If the person is using more than just raw strength to get the weight up (because they're powershitters and only care about the number on the bar and nothing else) then they arent going to get as big from simply squatting that number. They stil have to still get stronger to get bigger, its just that their baseline weight is already high due to the other factors mentioned, so to get monster legs instead of squatting 500lbs like the average guy would have to in order to get big legs, they need to be squatting 500-600+ for reps if they were to use the exact same form and style of squatting.
In my case I do grow from high intensity
simply not in my arms and back, therefore, I might train hard as frick but by being chubby I look like shit because in my case all that matters is your "shape"
you need a v taper and arms that pop out if you want to look muscular while being fat
It depends on the muscle, although you're going to grow everything from high volume
while you're not going to grow everything from high intensity
so for people who want a more midnless approach, high volume would be easier
Intensity vs volume has frick all to do with body fat. You can't outtrain a bad diet.
In order to recruit muscle you need more muscle. Think of hypertrophy as recruiting men for an army and strength training as their boot camp.
>curling 20kg dumbbells
>I am big
lmao. I curl 20 kg too and I am definitely not big
*injects synthol*
get MOGGED gymcel
To be fair, strong small guys tend to have awful muscle endurance due to myofibrilar packing. Their muscles have a sarcoplasm/protein fiber balanced that's tipped to the fiber more than the average person, and it will cause their muscles to burn at 3 reps of their 80% 1RM while someone who is bigger but just as strong will out-volume him by a long shot.