Substitutes for squats? I hate squatting so much it's making me want to stop lifting.
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Substitutes for squats? I hate squatting so much it's making me want to stop lifting.
Substitutes for squats? I hate squatting so much it's making me want to stop lifting.
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>he doesn't want to squat
ngmi
By far the worst lift I've ever done and I dont understand the point of it. It totally exhausts me everytime.
You can replace squats with split squats. They are easier on the cns, and isolate the quads and glutes.
>It totally exhausts me everytime
yeah, I sure hope it does????
Do heavy squats with ramp-up one day and volume front squats another day.
>It totally exhausts me everytime
That's literally the point. It's a full body exercise engaging most of your musculature that has to work in a synchronized way under a heavy ass load. There is no substitute.
>That's literally the point.
Then why the frick does StrongLifts tell me to do it every single workout????? I feel like going home every time I finish squats and skip everything else I actually want to do.
Leg press, hack squat, BSS.
Squats are a good lift, but the above listed options are less harsh on the CNS and limit low back fatigue. Personally, I do squats first then hit one of those as a secondary or rotate to belt squat as a secondary so I can get more leg volume without low back fatigue.
Because SL is an entry level powerlifting program and powerlifting is heavily biased towards leg strength and not remotely focused on physique development.
>not remotely focused on physique development.
Is there a good noob program for this, then? Because I don't care about powershitting, I was just want to be lean and muscular. Idgaf about being able to deadlift 800 lbs or whatever.
I haven't seen very many sadly. I'd say PPL, but that's a template more so than a program and 6 days a week is a bit much if intensity is solid. Probably a basic upper lower or push pull split focusing on all lifts being in the 6-30 rep range. Working close to failure and increasing working sets weekly up until a deload.
If you've got the money for it, the RPStrength app is probably your best bet for something like this. I've been using it for a year now (but lifting for about 5-6) and the results are pretty good. App is a bit over priced though imo.
Greyskull LP (do phrak's version since it sounds like you're too stupid to be trusted to modify the base program on your own). Or run GZCLP. Both of them are gonna have you squatting because squats are good for you, but it's not the first lift of every training day.
Or if you just wanna look big, try something like Baby Groot by John Meadows (pbuh). My experience running pure bb programs is limited so I can't speak to this one's effectiveness
Baby Groot is pretty solid, most of meadows programs are but the vast majority are far too rough for a novice lifter. Baby groot being the exception.
Gamma Bomb is probably one of my favorite programs of all time to run. I pick specific sections of it and run them based off what muscle group I want to prioritize growth on for a while.
Do this Arnold split, I don't squat or deadlift anymore, they are useless powershitter ego lifts and you don't need it for an aesthetic physique, I only do Seated OHP on Smith machine and Flat/Incline Barbell bench press, rotate between the two, so if you did barbell 4x5 Flat on Monday, u'll do Incline Barbell on Thursday while still doing Dumbbell Flat/Incline. I only do 1 leg day aswell and I do Stiff leg/Romanian Deadlifts with high controlled reps.
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Sure, now post yours (you won't because ur a fat powershitter or some DYEL who thinks anyone cares about ur sub 4pl8 squat).
I can squat and deadlift more than you, I just don't do it because I can get same gains for legs without hurting my back.
when you're roided up to the gills, it doesn't fricking matter what you do you'll grow anyway.
there's nothing wrong with doing smith machine or whatever, but squats and deadlifts are still fine exercises.
If you want to do look good, train the three compound lifts in high reps low rest period (hypertrophy) and do a lot of accessories.
Eat healthy af and sleep well. Its basic
You're not gonna get very muscular without a good squat, bench, and deadlift. You don't have to deadlift 800lbs but you do have to deadlift between 300 and 500 depending on your height and preferred rep range. An intermediate should start thinking about other lifts but a noob will get more out of doing only the big 3 than anything else he could do.
OP here. I think it was because the StrongLifts program I was doing had be doing squats in literally every workout and it was burning me out. I changed to the 5x5 SL ultra program where I only squat once a week. I'll see where that goes.
Did you stop progressing or did you just give up because it sucks? I did SL and I know how you feel but I was well into intermediate by the time I felt it and I moved on to squatting once a week and it went great.
>Did you stop progressing
Kinda? My highest squat was like 225lbs I think, but I knew something was wrong because I was squatting more than my deadlift. It turned out I was moronic and not doing proper squats, so I dropped the weight down to like 145 and did proper squats until I got to 165 where I kinda started to plateau because it was becoming really difficult.
Another factor is that I almost went to snap city when I failed an ass to grass squat and had the bar fall on my neck, luckily there was a safety up to catch it. So, now I have a fear of squatting really low.
I practiced failing the squat and letting the pins catch it. It's as simple as sitting down. Do it with the bar. Do it with 135. Then load it up for real and do an actual set to failure. You'll get used to it, lose the fear, and squat so much better that it may just never happen again.
>do an actual set to failure.
Nah, not doing that meme. Especially not on a calorie deficit since I'm cutting.
Oh, you're cutting? Well that's your problem right there. Better to eat at the maintenance for your end game goal bodyweight and content yourself with the body composition correcting itself when the lifts come to match the height and weight.
Yeah I'd do that if I wasn't a recovering /fph/ fat blob. I still need to lose like 30lbs at least.
Don't squat every workout. Replace it with something else, goblet squats, hip thrusts. Whatever.
Never forget that the people on this board giving you advice go to the gym expecting to come home without expending as much effort as physically possible. COPE SEETHE AND HAVE FUN WITH ZERO GAINS
This. I hate you homosexuals who think muscles are gained without any form of work or pain.
You don't have to frick yourself everytime you do it
>boo hoo it's hard
That's the point.
It's also why it's a great filter, it's not like squatting is some magical movement pattern that cannot be substituted well enough by different things. It's that by making yourself attain a decent squat, you've either discovered your love for lifting for the sake of it, or you've been crushed, filtered and btfo'd out of my gym.
Deeper, fgt.
>Deeper, fgt.
ok that's pretty g ay
What an unbelievably moronic thing to say, but exactly what I would expect from this joke of a board.
>it's bad because I get tired after
Fricking kek.
No other lift leaves me totally exhausted like squatting does.
That's why squatting is so great
You should destroy your muscles
>It totally exhausts me everytime.
That's the whole point, franguinho
>It totally exhausts me everytime.
>I dont understand the point of it.
?
>I don't want to challenge myself when lifting
actually ngmi
Black folk
>actually hitting legs
It’s so over
the original hack squats:https://bulldoggear.com/blogs/news/old-school-lifts-the-hack-squat
I guess leg press is going to be closest thing to squat
No
useless gay
do volume instead of heavy squats, and instead of a dedicated leg day just do 1 leg exercise on every other day
Try not being a homosexual
Squats are fun
>Kneeling down with heavy object on your back
>Fun
YWNNBAW
yep, I imagine carrying your mum on my back
I also imagine carrying Ops mom on my back
>he squats 7 pl8s
pics or it didn't happen
Try squatting in higher rep ranges. I struggled with squats in the lower rep ranges for years grinding out little to no progress.
Swapped to a programme with very high volume working down from a top set of 20 to a top set of 8 over a few weeks which blew my squat up and I actually enjoyed the sessions.
>set of 20
Yeah, no. Reminds me of a quote by Rippetoe answering a question on resting between reps:
>It varies with the length of the set. 5s or fewer get a breath to reset. Longer sets might take 2 breaths. During the last few reps of a true 20RM squat, just do what Jesus tells you. Trust me, if you do an honest 20 rep program, at some point Jesus will talk to you. On the last day of the program, he asked if he could work in.
Ummm Ripplebreasts based??
No, rippletoad changed his stance on 20 rep squats. He says they're stupid now.
If you want to get strong you have to squat, no excuses
If you don't want to get strong then you should reevaluate your life choices
You don't have to squat with low volume though. Squatting is unique in that with higher volume you can take a set "past failure" with rest pauses and put in some good work at the very end of what you can physically manage.
It's hard to do that with deadlifts or benching.
Hack squats maybe?
>hate squatting
This is because they are hard. They are hard because they are effective. So you just need to ask yourself, do I want easy comfy lifts with less gains? If so, you could do leg press and hip thrusts, but your leg/glute gains will be mediocre and you won't get the secondary gains in your core and back. The choice is yours.
Front squat
leg press, but i hate it more than squats myself tbh
Belt squats.
>do heavy bulgarians squats
>almost pass out
frick I hate doing legs
Ditto that. I want to isolate the muscle groups I'm trying to work, not feel like I just sprinted up a hill.
If you don't like squatting you ain't no true gymbro
Squats are the only good part of my week
Squating is a meme
Do RDL, leg press, laying leg curls, calf raises, hip thrust. Hip thrusts and leg presses will build much nicer legs than the tumor chicken wings squat addicts get. Look at any athlete and not one looks like they have infected legs and tiny calves
You're a lesser being
He did leg press
Only for pictures
>look at any athlete
any athlete that needs strength and power does squats. spinters, sprint cyclists, throwers, rugby players, football players ALL have good squats almost without fail. most wrestlers and mma fighters have good squats as well even the ones with skinny legs. jon bones squats 500X5.
Three sets of ten reps of stomping Black person baby skulls will grow your legs like nothing else.
(note: ten reps for each side)
Just do Bulgarians and calf raises and that's all you need for legs.
deadlift, trap bar deadlift or deficit deadlift
Weighted squats are only good if you walk a lot, otherwise your hamstrings will tell you to eat shit in the morning
>There are plenty of muscular people who never once did squat bench or deadlift.
Who? The 15lb dumbell salesman in your pic? Doubtful. Dorian Yates and Brian Shaw? Outright false.
>Calling Pandour small
Post body homosexual.
As for Yates and Shaw, they admit they don't squat, although I think Yates might have started again after retirement.
Your reading comprehension is probably worse than your physique. I didn't call him small, I called him a liar. And both Yates and Shaw have squatted plenty regardless of what they do now. They didn't skip the fundamentals and for good reason.
You said he was a 15 lb salesman you disingenuous homosexual. Here's Yates talking about squats. I'm not doing any more leg work (bdumtss) for you squatists.
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>You said he was a 15 lb salesman
He was. He sold light dumbell bullshit to normalgays. That's how they made money. It doesn't mean he really used it get big.
>Yates doesn't squat anymore
You get a 5pl8 squat and you can move on from it too. Or even just 3pl8. I'm not saying to be a powerlifter. I'm saying to not skip the fundamentals.
moron you're thinking of sandow with the light dumbbells. Pandour didn't use barbells or dumbbells, he did calisthenics gay shit
That pic of yates is when he was young before he was pro. When he was pro he didn't squat.
The barbell back squat isn't as fundamental as you say. What do you think ancient gladiators who relied on their strength and size for their literal lives did? Not the barbell back squat.
>ancient gladiators who relied on their strength and size for their literal lives did?
They didn't rely on anything for their lives. They fought and bled a little and that's it. Or they were unimportant and they would have been killed for fun whether they were big or not.
More recently.. everyone who's big squats at some point and mogs 150lb ancient slaves.
Hot shit you're stupid.
This thread sums up the whole state of nuIST unfortunately. Nobody wants to lift heavy weights. Nobody wants to eat food to get bigger. Nobody wants to go on a diet to see their six packs. Guess what guys? If it was easy everyone would be doing it already. We don't do it because it's easy. We do it because it's hard. Because the weak-bodied and the weak-willed deserve to fail. Only the strong survive. It's a doggie dog world.
I want to do all of that. The irony is that I do not want to post on IST
None of this matters, nattards coping with having strength when they look like shit while squatting and deadlifting heavy.
Such a waste of fricking time, just pin if you wanna get big, homosexuals
Stupid if you're not interesting in bodybuilding competitions.
>v-squat machine
>pendulum squat machine
>Substitutes for squats
There are none
You might as well ask for substitutes for lifting
I'd rather do cleans way cooler.
hack squat
smith machine squat
pendulum squat
leg extension + hip adductor/abductor