>Terrible for muscle gains
>Extremely dangerous even with good technique
>Literally only exists for egolifting
Is deadlift the worst exercise?
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>Terrible for muscle gains. >Extremely dangerous even with good technique. >Literally only exists for egolifting
yes obviously
completely worthless lift
how I picture the homie who says deadlifting is dangerous
Barbells are dangerous. Just use the machines.
>Barbells are dangerous.
why?
That’s how I picture deadlift fans.
I'm 9000% sure that is actually almost exactly what the average diehard deadlifter looks like.
Did you forget that deadlifts are also the core powershitter exercise?
????
that is NOT a homie bro
You literally posted the exact stereotype of a deadlift enthusiast bro
Where are his pants?
His fat was hungry.
Makes you shorter.
If you can lift the weight you actually stand back up after starting the lift
if anything if you've been slouching a lot lately, deadlifting can help you stand up a bit straighter when you get a back pump
>implying it does not activate the whole body
I mean that image is moronic
Agree that if you want muscle doing deadlifts is moronic but almost every barbell exercise is moronic.
I still do presses with barbell tho.
The image isn’t moronic, op is. That’s not a picture of a regular deadlift, starting position is just below the knees and only activates hams and glutes, that’s a Romanian.
Romanians did "Romanian deadlifts" as a back exercise.
Don't be a crybaby, proper warmup+good technique+proper progression drops the risk of snapping your back to at least zero. If deadlifts scare you so much start only with the bar and don't add weight until you are sure you have good technique and know how to stabilize your back.
I fricking love seeing glassbacks and worryweaks seethe and cower at the sight of the king of lifts. You cannot imagine how good it feels to rep out 450lbs and then immediately do front levers on the squat rack. While the dyels are licking their wounds from picking up a 30lb box wrong and fidgeting with their cables I am Jefferson lifting 4 plates just for fun. They will say “just wait until you -ack yourself in a few years” with tears in their eyes. They will say that today, and tomorrow, and until their last gasping pathetic breath, and meanwhile I will still be deadlifting twice a week every week, for the rest of my long and superior life
t. back pain
HAVE YOU TRIED STRENGTHENING YOUR BACK?
>t. Deadliestlift
It improved my posture and now I look like a fricking man
RDLs >>>>>>>>>>>> Deadlifts
Based
Also good but zero grip strength training
or lat training, or trapezius training or oblique training, or rectus abdominis training, or etc, etc.
>he does deadlifts for lats
hex bar farmers carries, i still deadlift though
Why not just grab a heavy ass dumbbell with each hand and do farmers carry?
>grip strength training
deadhangs
captains of crush 1, 1.5 and 2 (both hold and reps)
farmer walks with the heaviest dumbbells you can find
Ah, the back extension. The intellectual's alternative to the dead-man's lift.
>Never had back pain in my life besides the first week of deadlifting
>1,5y of training
>Start doing back hyperextensions
>"Wow, I never felt my back like this, this is probably a weak point!"
>Lower back starts hurting second week in
>Can't flex my chest towards the ground without pain unless I lock my back like a mofo
>2 months since my first back hyperextensions
>Lower back still hurts with the slightest ab flexion
>"It won't heal, won't it?"
I'm deadlifting 3x5pl8s with no issue. Deadlifted for an entire year and got no injuries. Did back hypers once and now I'm fricked for life.
Do not do back hyperextension. Do good mornings and nordic hamstring curls instead.
>Lower back starts hurting second week in
you're one of those morons that do ROM like this, aren't you?
Kek but there's no pain when I do extension at all, no matter how far. The problem appears when my back has to support my torso's weight hanging forward.
It's shit but I'm getting better. I posted 1x5pl8s on /plg/ and homies shat on it so frick that until I feel good about it.
I don't, man.
>Kek but there's no pain when I do extension at all, no matter how far. The problem appears when my back has to support my torso's weight hanging forward.
So yeah you're extending too far back and then on the way down you feel it lol, don't do it wrong and it's fine.
mirin ROM
>I'm deadlifting 3x5pl8s with no issue
post form
Anon, you are supposed to keep your spine neutral during hyperextensions not extend it as much as possible at the top of the movement.
? like that would even cause damage
Did you do hyperextensions with weight like a moron...?
Is doing hyper extensions with manageable weight ( not ego lifting) bad?
No he's a moron. Back extensions on a Roman chair with a barbell btn is the best back exercise you can do. You can strain your erector if you go too HAM though. I did 145x10 and got a scary pain in my erectors that took a few weeks to away. Just doing like 75lb btn for reps is good.
i do both on the same day
The boipucci machine, my favorite
Would these be good to do if I've injured my knee and want a replacement?
Yes perfect
Won't get thick, juicy lats doing this.
>lats
>dl
how? I deadlift 200kgx2 beltless but had shitty lats until I added dumbbell rows
how in the frick would you expect to get good lats from a primarily low back exercise?
do you do calf raises and think this will be great for your triceps?
think reddit, think
Feeling brolly
Deadlift friday
Fact is diddlers use most weight
I don't know, I like to do them with lower weight but high reps. My hamstrings get destroyed.
Why not just do RDLs at that point?
I am a newfriend new to lifting (4 months)
I have never performed a deadlift
I also have never SEEN someone perform a deadlift IRL. I go to a globohomosexual gym but still. Never seen a big guy do it. In fact most big guys don’t seem to touch barbells much at all except for benching or the occasional row. Never seen any of them squatting or deadlifting. What’s up with that?
Have I been duped by Reddit and IST into performing useless lifts?
What muscle group does the deadlift work? Back? Legs? Seems inconclusive. Mind you I only lift for aesthetics.
Do you go during peak hours? For some weird reason I never see anyone doing them between 5 and 8 in the evening. Only in the morning or really late
No mostly early in the morning except for saturdays when I go at 10 but that’s by necessity because the gym only opens at 10 on weekends. It’s already way more packed then than when I go at 6 during weekdays
Most people really don't know how to incorporate barbell lifts into a bodybuilding routine.
Also deadlifts work your hams, glutes, lower back the most. If you did rows the day before, you will feel it a lot in your lats.
I only see women regularly deadlift
Holy cope
Basically it hits your entire posterior chain to varying extents, though I've felt it in places like my abs and even my quads too.
The most noticeable growth I've seen from them is my traps, everyone in my family noticed those when I really included deadlifts in my routine. My only recommendation is to not assume that your lats are going to be hit significantly by deadlifts. If you include deadlifts in your back day, do not skimp on exercises that target your lats too.
You go to a normie gym. Big Guys (for you) at my gym do insane shit on bars, you only see the machines for isolation, they swear by it. I watched a man quietly incline 365 for a triple the other day, probably the strongest person I've actually witnessed
Muscles doesn't necessarily correlates with strength
Bodybuilders blasts tons of roids and do billions of repetitions with machines
You'd be surprised how weak some are despite the looks
redpill
i only have dbs at home so i do these and BSS on leg day
my legs are completely destroyed so i assume it works
Yeah these are rape on the upper hamstring
Managed to get my DL to 100kg for 10 reps but any more and my grip strength just instantly failed me. Got some straps and immediately did 110kg for 10 reps, felt great. Tried 115kg for AMRAP tonight and could not get the fricking straps to lock in for shit. Ended up eeking out 2 sets of 3 with way to much back and fricking hurt myself. Feels bad man
Gotta work that grip strength. You’ll end up with tendonitis. Plus crushing stuff with your hands is kinda cool.
I'm training grip on every other pull exercise though surely. I just don't see the point in letting my current grip limit all the other stuff the deadlift trains
When warming up I'll rotate between overhand and alternating mixed grips with a different hand over/under the bar each time, without straps, then do my heaviest set with straps. I think the only way I'll ever be able to increase my DL is with straps though for now, my grip just fails me
Not sure what happened with the straps tonight, just couldn't get them to 'lock' like I have done previously. I'm still not entirely sure how to use them properly and probably just fluked it 1st time
>I think the only way I'll ever be able to increase my DL is with straps though for now
lmao stop using straps and high rep DLs and start lowering the reps and incorporating RDLs. your grip and body will thank you
Why don't you try hook grip or mixed grip? Its a little strange you are struggling with straps
why not just do RDLs for 10 reps and DLs for 5? it's much less moronic than what you are doing
Bro ive been to snap city and back and deadies never gave me a problem. Just keep rep range a little higher.
I do sets to failure but about 15-20 reps is safe with good form.
At least the deadlift won't turn you into a T-Rex.
Now, squats...
>Bunch of dyels got memed into thinking deadlifts are most dangerous lift
lmao, easiest way to spot a dyel. If you actually lifted, you would know squat is most dangerous. Everyone always talks about frickin their shit up doing squats, ive only heard maybe 2 people talk about injury from deadlifts
Never got injured in squats, bp or ohp
Everytime I get to 240 kg deadlift it is a dice roll if I injure myself on a warm up completely randomly with perfect flawless form or at around 200 kg.
I really don't see the point of deadlifting significantly more than double your bodyweight for 5 reps. Unless of course you are preparing yourself for a competition or something. I'm close already to that amount (180kg) and I dont think I'll keep increasing my numbers and will just keep doing the same weight for maintenance or change the volume if I want to adapt my body to that weight completely.
Seems smart. I also switched from going heavy to a adapted form of Smolov Jr for deadlifts
No, bench is by far the most dangerous
Nope, it's definitely deadlift.
>pick up big weight
>put weight down with loud noise
>feelsgood.avif
all there is to it
Lifting weights is not only dangerous and stupid but it's terribly inefficient for the body.
One of the leading causes of deaths is due to water. As long as the weights stay away from water, I would say its quite safe
>there's water in the air
it's over.
What's wrong gay? Can't pickup heavy objects like a man? Lmao what a pussy
>tfw have never gotten past 320lbs on DL
I have no idea what to do. I read up on it and look at videos, but once I get even the slightest bit heavy I take a two week vacation to snap city. I need professional critique it seems.
You almost certainly need to reduce deadlift frequency and sleep more. If you max out it takes over a week for your CNS to fully recover
deadlift doesnt even effect your CNS
I only DL once a week. It may also be an issue of ego. I feel like my DL is lagging g far behind my other lifts and it should be my best one.
>tfw have never gotten past 320lbs on DL
Me too. I have been stuck at 325 for months. I have deloaded and worked back up multiple times, and I swear I get worse at it, and hurt my back twice now. Meanwhile, all of my other compounds are fine. Last week:
>ohp 120 5x5
>bench 215 5x5
>squat 275 5x5
>DL 315 4, 3,3,2 and my back was hurting.
I have watched multiple deadlift form videos, I go through the checklist of things. Bar over mid foot, hips down, lats tight, remove slack, etc but I get zero mind muscle connection. I only feel sore in my lower back. Never in my glutes and hams.Am I fricking moronic? Or is it my torsomaxx anatomy?
>6,2" with ~29.5" inseam
Lower the weight you dumb frick. You're going to break your back like this.
Lower the weight and keep practising until you learn to engage your quads, hams and glutes. Think of it like a standing leg press.
Maybe raise the bar's starting height, just below the middle of your shins.
Try some rack pulls, too.
DO THE ENTIRE LIFT DO NOT DROP THE BAR ECCENTRIC AND CONCENTRIC CONTROL THAT MOFO
Your lower back is so strong from doing the most work, that when you properly hit the other muscle groups, you'll know immediately.
moron tip? Do the first part of the clean so you can learn explosive motion with your legs and glutes.
stop doing 5x5 and do 3x5. novice 5x5 was marketed by an eastern european scammer. 5x5 was never meant to be used with the same weight and only naive idiots swear by it. AND you should only do DLs at 1x5. if you want more DL work, then incorporate higher rep RDLs
I don't even like 5x5 but this isn't true at all. Football players and rugby players have been doing 5x5 since forever. Clarence built his squat doing 5x5 like 90% of the time. That Japanese guy toshiki got his squat to 320kg just doing 5x5 up to 260 or 270.
You realize 1) they aren’t novices and 2) they don’t use the same weight for all 5 sets
They do use the same weights. That is the entire point.
Well then they aren’t novices, are inefficient, aren’t natty, or are in the top 5 percent of genetics
Or are privileged and have all the time in the world for recovery and training
>Clarence built his squat doing 5x5 like 90% of the time.
You are aware that he roids, right?
And DLing 5x5 is the definition of moronic. The extra volume saved by not doing 5x5 can be used for a multitude of things like chins, dips, eating less, and not blowing out your natty CNS
is there a source talking about the CNS as it relates to weightlifting and recovery that fit trusts as the sticky doesn't talk about it, or are you just talking out of your ass saying muh nervous system.
The TLDR is as you get stronger you have to start concerning about recovery. At really fricking moron ass heavy weights, a max deadlift takes 10 days to recover from, for example. This fatige overlaps with your training and its a one way trip to snap city if not handled correctly. You can even get anxiety attacks in bed because your cns is fried. This is why when you enter the intermediate lifter phase, you have to get recovery into the equation and adjust the volume so you dont get fricked over. This applies to the muscle healing process, that can become slower than the muscle breakdown and you end up training harder for literally less gains. These problems can be mitigated with roids, but then you get into the territory of tearing your tendons, which is not fun.
5x5 DL sounds like a good way to obliterate your back if you want to speedrun that
If you're squatting and benching you also want to deadlift or your quads and chest will get stronger than your back and your hamstrings and you'll end up in snap city. Just don't try lift stupid amounts of weight.
You don't lift at all so why do you care.
rack deadlift is cool
I've never felt DOMS in my ass.
I still think I'm doing this shit wrong with a trap bar after stronglift for 6 months.
I mean... the weight is going in the air... Right?
Swing then hip forwards
Pre load your posterior chain, concentrate on contracting glutes, drive from your heels
Visualize ramming your dick into gym thot of your choice as you stand up with the weight
>its not optimal for hypertrophy
Do something else then
>my back hurts when I do them 🙁
Strengthen your lower back then
>I never see anyone do them
Go to a real gym
>they're dangerous
If you're moronic, yes
>frick up something in my upper back doing idk what
>hurts to look down
>do a few sets of 1pl8 deadlifts
>completely healed
america explain
I used to be able to deadlift 405 at 18 and now at 27 my legs are still strong enough to lift that (can hit 295 like it's first set for 5 reps) but my grip gives out at 315. It's passing me off. When the frick did I become a griplet
My grip doesn't fail until 500+
Here's why you do pulls. If you are jacked but DON'T have erectors looking like a giant mutated pussy growing out your back, you will look like an absolute homosexual. Everyone will notice. Do your pulls.
you are a body dysmorphic troon homosexual. literally no one gives a frick
You seem to be seething for some reason. Probably because you have no erectors.
I started doing deadlifts and I got so much bigger. Literally bursting through my shirts.
Went from newbie 360lbs deadlift to 500 in a short period of time
Literally watching buff zoomers with thousand mile stares struggle with 315
>feel like form is failing and injury possible
>put it down
???
>anons are now against squats and deadlifts
please continue. less people waiting for the barbell now
Yeah they will continue to do what actually benefits them while you continue to huhuhu alone in the corner with your moronic- ass meme lifts from 2010s and a gross muffintopped "dad bod"
Everyone will be crushed I'm 90 years old I'm deadlifting like never before. I'll deadlift you useless sons of b***hes straight outta the gym
LIGHT WEIGHT BABAAAAY
Yes. The 2010s powerlifting revival was unironically a Dark Age of lifting culture where straight up morons posing as fitness influencers would tell sedentary skinnyfats that just wanted to look good to start doing meme exercises like squatting and deadlifting with a spinal load of 300lb+ only to end up looking like shit anyways
?? heavy dls cured my back pain and I have mild scoliosis
>why yes I deadlift 2132132131^10kgs for 10 reps, it's the best exercise
>watch the person do it in the gym
>it's a sumo deadlift
fricking hilarious, completely invalidated
Is there any real reason to do sumo deadlifts instead of regular deadlifts, besides being a woman or a homosexual?
If your a powerlifter, it makes complete sense to do sumo so you have a higher total. But for normal strength lifters I see no point in doing sumo over conventional
Idk I've always seen sumo lifters as only caring about perceived strength instead of actual strength. Same type of person to do a leg press in an attempts to impress people who don't understand a 6pl8 leg press isn't impressive. Everybody knows sumo is a bullshit lifting technique.
>WAAAAAH DEADWIFTS SCAWWY WAAAAAAH
Shut the frick up and pick up the weight, pantyBlack person.
Is that 5.5pl8?
Sure looks like it.
The fact that she's doing it strapless is what is even more impressive.
i call gear
you don't need straps if you do that grip
yea never do it also skip legs
Powerlifters still can't agree on what this actually works.
better exercise and doesn't break your back
No one Is as fierce as I am
Deadlifts are the real way to use your back
I hate how unnatural rows are
You end up using all your energy to just inhibit the movement of the torso, instead of letting your muscles flow together.
In my opinion, the perfect back excercise is a hybrid between rows and deadlifts
>Ten years ago was a DYEL
>Unhealthy, skinny fat, spent far too much time gayming
>Standard story of first breakup giving me a wake up call
>Had had a persistent lower back pain for 1-2 years at this point, likely caused by poor posture and sitting in front of a computer all day
>Go to the gym for the first time. No idea what I’m doing so look up some programmes online
>Do deadlifts for the first time. Probably was at a hilariously low weight, don’t even remember
>Back pain immediately stops, never comes back
>In time pain from heartbreak also stops
>Thanks deadlifts
I mean, if Tom Plattz says a ham curl machine gives far better results, you should probably listen.
Peak bodybuilders were blessed with a godly set of genetics *and* life circumstances that allowed them to turn a hobby into a career.
Their insights are welcome, but they are legitimately the 0.01% and therefore not representative for general population.
Room temperature IQ and seething, perfect combo to never make it.