>Optimizes your sleep
>Maximizes your hormones
>Rock hard boners
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>Optimizes your sleep
>Maximizes your hormones
>Rock hard boners
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>gaydogia
>Tongkat
>Ashwaganda
Absolute garbage meme supps. ZMA and Boron are pretty legit though. Tell me more about cats claw?
>cats claw
i read two studies a while back that it blocks estrogen receptors and decreases estrogen uptake
>Selenium
God that shit fricking reeked when I was taking it
wdym??!
All the worst thing from roid are from blocking estrogen. And you decided to block natural levels of estrogen? Are you moronic?
Aswaganda blocks cortisol. The issue with that is that the sensetivity of your muscles to cortisol increases. In the 80s bodybuilders were blockinv it and as soon as the were off drugs, they were loosing all the gains in less yhan a month. It's a zero sum game. Just use it only ocassionaly when having lots of stress.
Zinc without copper...
You are a fricking imbicile
>Zinc without copper...
Is this really that bad? I hear alot of talk about Zinc but never copper unless your taking large amounts >50mg
https://purebulk.com/products/copper-gluconate-pure
What if I just eat out my girl on the rag
Tastes like pennies
im not desperate enough to drink period blood for gainz yet
Salty pennies
50mg a day made my hair start going white which is a sign of copper deficiency and it reversed when I stopped taking zinc and ate some organs. 15mg or lower is the max you should use. I used more because people at the time were talking about "elemental zinc" which is like 10-25% of the zinc tabs you're taking so I thought 50mg would be ideal. Also, western diets aren't low in zinc, at all. If you're not getting enough zinc you're just eating like a moron. Same with potassium.
You don't have to do ot blindly. You look at the symptoms of deficiencies and excess.
https://www.shantiva.com/blogs/blog/how-to-balance-copper-and-zinc-intake-for-optimal-health
Ah, these are boosters. I think they don't do much for normal people with unsupressed test.
>ashwaganda
proven to lower Cortisol in the morning at 30mg twice a day.
join the fit discord! discord.gg/a9zucXzc4n
It's a serotonin precursor. I wouldn't take it if I got paid 100$ per pill
vitamin c lowers cortisol and i have a 5lb bag also >discord
>Boron
what's that for and is it really necessary to supplement it?
increases free test
It's a mineral that we hardly get anymore. Borax is just boron bonded to buric acid and it's just a mineral they mine out of the ground in california. GMOs made it so that soil quality doesn't have to be great to grow crops so you don't get those minerals anymore. It's clear we don't because the second anyone supplements it there's a massive reaction just like when someone with no zinc starts taking zinc.
I believe borax is a boron salt which converts to boric acid in the stomach.
About 10% of the weight of borax is boron and the other 90% is salt, It turns in to boric acid in the stomach plus salt and water.
Then when the boric acid is in the body water it will release the boron ions for cellular activity.
Where's the cum?
dozen eggs = 2.2g cholesterol
1/4tsp zinc gluconate = 96mg zinc
1/16tsp borax = 20.6mg boron
1/16tsp potassium iodide = 191.1mg iodine
1/4tsp magnesium chloride = 382mg magnesium
also l-citruline
>1/16tsp potassium iodide = 191.1mg iodine
do you mean micro-grams not milligrams?
Potassium iodide makes me to relax and kinda feel like shit or brain fog till the next day I have lugols I was only taking a drop once a week then did iodine salt similar effects. I'll get my thyroid tested again but why would I react negatively kinda to potassium iodide
tl;dr when you're deficient in iodine (or any other mineral) it mobilizes the toxic metals and halogens that were squatting where your iodine, magnesium, zinc, etc. were supposed to go
so basically our FDA daily value for iodine is 250mcg cuz they (re)tested it on a bunch of poisoned normies
supplements are a fricking 300 year old meme from medicine shows during the pioneer days
imagine falling for a known public 300 year old scam
people have been eating dirt and random salts for thousands of years
Do you know what supplement means
It means you can make any baseless claim you want consequence free
Post body
Yes. Never use NaCl ever again. You can get all the natrium from food. It's just a scam that mining companies created.
/Fit/bros, is Fenugreek extract a meme? Iam considering getting it.
i hold off on the plant extracts cuz expensive
bags of mineral compounds are cheap
actually have a nice day for wasting money on all this trash
I'm not poor. 80$ of supps is change for me. I've wasted 100$+ on worse things.
Seethe
>bragging about $100+
kek poor little poor baby
it's not even about that, it's the fact you are willingly ingesting this trash AND paying for it
I'm not bragging. You said wasting money. I said it's change. Cope more.
If your argument was that it's trash that's a completely different story. I just blew 350$ yesterday on a piece of glass, that was much mroe regretful. Cry about it
dunno i just started this stack wanted to try it. will report back
Zinc and Magnesium works too well together and makes me drowsy. Am I missing out by taking only Zinc?
Use caffeine alongside the magnesium
>Use caffeine alongside the magnesium
but i take it at night
you get drowsy at night?
I drink a LOT of coffee during the day and work + lift and at night after i eat my oats with protein i take magnesium and vit c and on the days i feel low test i take 50mg zinc but not everyday.
sources: unironically just trust me
magnesium at night, zinc during day
you dont need all this bullshit
eat red meat
lots of greens
eggs 3-6 per day
sunlight
fatty fish 2x a week
all natty test booster
you do need all this bullshit
buy bags of cheap powder
slonk raw eggs
rare steak
shoot and boil hogs
and the most important thing is to lift harder and be very low bf, fast if you have to
I do all of those things and still take supps too.
I train very hard and an am amateur fighter at smokers and look to optimize recovery
would these sups even give a noticable difference? I doubt this would even increase your t 50ng/dl
i dunno this is my first stack I'm just trying it. never bought most of these before except for zma. I'll let you know in a month
see
it pretty much has to increase your test
explain picture to brainlet please
your leydig cells make testosterone from cholesterol and zinc
so just eat a shitton of eggs and take a microscoop of zinc powder
you should also be low bf% and lift
thanks large brained fren
I dunno if there's an actual link between dietary cholesterol and T. Eating cholesterol doesn't increase your bodys cholesterol levels, that's raised by satuated fat intake. but I still egg & zinc max
maybe https://mennohenselmans.com/cholesterol-anabolic/
interesting, nice summary
>microscoop of zinc powder
can i just fricking take a zinc pill
Zinc pills are scams
>your leydig cells make testosterone from cholesterol and zinc
>so just eat a shitton of eggs and take a microscoop of zinc powder
>you should also be low bf% and lift
But the leydig cells don't release testosterone until they are told to by the brain. You can't force the leydig cells to release testosterone just by eating more cholesterol.
That's like trying to increase the horsepower of a car by putting more fuel into the tank.
Also the body makes at least 1000 mg of cholesterol per day and only 10 mg of testosterone per day. People who eat zero cholesterol like vegans have similar testosterone levels to people who eat a lot of cholesterol.
>vegans have similar testosterone levels to people who eat a lot of cholesterol.
(you)
The argument is that many men are slightly deficient in zinc and this is why stuff like ZMA works. I take it since a few weeks and it did seem to make me hornier.
This
I get even harder raging boners in the morning and very deep sleep
what kind of zinc, im seeing zinc oxide and zinc citrate
https://shopbestnaturals.com/products/best-naturals-zinc-gluconate-pure-powder-1-pound
1lb/$10 with 5OFF
>eggs 36 per day
FTFY
Oh I thought this was a TRT thread from the title not a meme supplements thread
Boron boosts TRT
>there is ample evidence that as testosterone levels rise, cholesterol levels fall
reduce your cholesterol today with DEAD (dozen eggs a day) + zinc
haha oh shit. i just bought more
I'm considering getting tongkat ali
Already been taking ash for a couple weeks
How effective do you feel it has been?
(I'm tapering off ssris and trying to rehab my libido)
I got HUBERMANNED and got a bottle of both fadogia and tongkat, the effects would be no different than a placebo.
This is the only plant extract I'd recommend for test
https://www.amazon.com/Yohimbe-Extract-Bulksupplements-Promotes-Stamina/dp/B079GNZT2X
vitamin B3 and fasting can boost HGH
>shutting down your natural test production to own the nattys
no thanks i don't want to turn into a troony after
Holy shit what a disgusting trash israelite israelite Black person paper
Yeah goy, testosterone is the reason for male suicide. Fricking have a nice day and the feminist israelite troony Black folk too who made this.
Males disproportionately kill themselves because society treats them like dirt unless they are rich.
>30% on roids kill themselves
>10% not on roids
>300% increase
Okay
You know that trash had more nefarious narrative which is testosterone=suicide, suicidal thoughts, toxicity.
Basically slopaganda targeting to destroy healthy men.
>roid rage screechings
In short, the guys' balls started working and they could see through the roastie bullshit. Everytime these broads write shit, they never write why their husbands are acting that way; the roasties are annoying and naggy 247 365
Look like steroids are based and make you roastie proof. Damn this shit is magical. Every men needs it.
>spent time away from wife
Check.
>had sex with three other women
Just one.
>Thrown things at wife.
Check.
Damn I guess I'm a high T butthole.
>my fricking body my fricking rules
I'm convinced now. Buying a bag and hypodermic needle.
>Holy shit what a disgusting trash israelite israelite Black person paper
Cope. It's 5 different papers from different scientists in different countries at different times.
The delusion here. No, steroids do not cause more suicide.
Unless you've been living under a rock you would understand that more testosterone == more of who you were to begin with. Do many bodybuilders who are extremely vain and narcissistic struggle with depression and anxiety? Do most natural lifters hop on because they feel like they're not good enough at one of the only things they care about?
The use of any drugs are generally going to lead to a higher rate of death, weather it's suicide or associated health problems. There's a reason no Mr. Olympias have ever killed themselves. They took their passion to the next level and achieved the greatest accolade you can in bodybuilding.
The rest of the gym-rat steroid abusers, especially the new-gen - are all depression and anxiety ridden to begin with. The outcome is only potentiated when they realize that the thing they thought would fix their life only dug them deeper into the hole.
do you look better than pre-steroid bodybuilders? be honest
yeah i got off test just to see what would happen and I was 6'2 190 lean now im 160 and fluffy and dyel. was only doing 70-100mg a week too.
150m a week or nothing
sounds like your body completely ceased producing testosterone from TRT use
Honestly, how surprising.
>6'2
>190
Roiding for this
Imagine unironically fricking your bodys hormone production to still be dyel
Did you forget to eat and exercise?
>roiding for 6'2" 190
God roiders SUCK at lifting. Literally any natty trains harder than these people.
That's the whole fricking reason most of them take the gear, they are too lazy to train.
No I only want a boost and better sexual function
Derek from MPMD dot com here. Why don't you just buy my GORILLA SIGMA supplement which contains all the meme supplements in your pic, all in one convenient package?
Because it was tested at an independent lab and was found to be bunk.
Derek's shit is shit? No way.
It's expensive but must be good quality. You just talking shit.
this is one thing I always find hilarious about this board.
>hey IST, I want to increase my testosterone. how do I do that?
>*recommends medically unverified bullshit like nofap, zinc supplementation, and literally eating onions*
>how about I just, dunno, actually take some testosterone?
>NO YOU CANNOT DO THAT B-BECAUSE... UH YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY?
Lol right bro people are petrified of test meanwhile it’s a fricking bioodentical hormone. As soon as you take it your body knows exactly what to do with it. But sure let’s spend 200 a month on meme shit supplements instead
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36577241/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6406961/
oh nonono roidtrannies how will we ever recover
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6406961/
>Testosterone in Males as Enhanced by Onion
Shit Onions really was the secret
>onions
> Slightly increase athletic and sexual performance with minimum side effects
vs
> Achieve extreme test levels and equally severe side effects
Anon use your brain.
Don't you feel pitty for your dick?
This is all snake powder. You can get actual testosterone for like $140 a cycle through a telehealth service, but it will frick your body up. Your reproductive and hormone system will never work at full capacity again, all for some bloated muscles. Not worth it. This shit simply put won't work the same way though. Stop wasting your money and just eat healthy food.
>Your reproductive and hormone system will never work at full capacity again
This isn’t true whatsoever
does IST still take creatine? pls answer i bought a tab but i heard spooky shit
It makes you bald
>have all these things without needing supplements
Guess I'm just built different
Will taking rest days decrease my test?
I've used Boron for a bit over 3 weeks now. I can't say it made a noticable difference but I feel and look good and had no side-effects.
If you need all these synthetic supplements you're a genetic failure.
Post body and we'll see who the real genetic failure is.
lads,
want to try Magnesium supplement..
was thinking of the Mag complex.
Any advice of what i should try, and what i should avoid?
i thought i remember reading that one form could have negative consequence.
im a pretty generally high inflammation person for forever, any other advice for energy, focus?
>in b4 exercise, diet, and sleep - i already do.
I may just have to bite the bullet and go gluten free.
magnesium oxide is used as a prescription laxative, just get magnesium glycinate and take it before bed, citrate still made me fart. dont know about others.
magnesium bicarbonate (diy) is the only magnesium worth taking. ZMA sucks. I think those "Calm" drink mixes are magnesium bicarbonate or something close so you could use those if you can't be bothered to mix some shit into soda water and shake the bottle.
Here's some random tutorial I found. You don't need a soda stream just mix it directly into a GV tonic water or club soda from walmart and shake it.
magnesium hydroxide + baking soda is indeed top tier, but so is magnesium chloride
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BJL4M14Q/
Watch your hairline very carefully
>leg hurt
>shut in for months
>absolutely no energy
>barely any boners
>go out because of a family event that i can't skip
>max boners
>fap 3 times a day
>still no energy
Ashwagandha literally rise estrogens. Meme supplement
no it doesn't you moron
https://obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jog.15030
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3675906/
https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/faq/PlOddG2-does-ashwagandha-affect-hormone-health/
https://blackleaves.com.au/blogs/menopause/ashwagandha-a-natural-remedy-for-female-hormones
''Research has shown that taking 300 mg of KSM-66 Ashwagandha twice daily provided statistically significant increases in serum estradiol levels, along with a significant reduction in serum FSH and LH levels, compared with a placebo group''
studies on rats and women and your quote is from a menopause research
From actual study on males: "ashwagandha intake was associated with an 18% greater increase in DHEA-S (p = .005) and 14.7% greater increase in testosterone (p = .010) compared to the placebo. There were no significant between-group differences in cortisol and estradiol."
Also from your own link: "Preliminary evidence suggests that 500–600 mg of ashwagandha root extract per day may increase testosterone levels in men when taken over 3–6 months. Improvements in testosterone levels, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, sperm quality parameters, quality of life, and sexual functioning have been seen with ashwagandha use"
>studied made by pajeet scientist with obviously ''no conflict of interest'' for an indian ayorvedic supplement
Literally a meme herb with no noticeable results on body look an composition
Works on my system 😉
Unironically interested. Positives?
I took it for months and gave me a bad anhedonia
>Improvements in testosterone levels, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, sperm quality parameters,
In post-menopausal women? That's not Ashwagandha, that's Tren.
Is Tren worth the associated brain damage?
250mcg iodine is the precise dose that it doesn't do anything
i just pin test. waaay cheaper and works rly good
>cheaper
show me where i can order test for under $10
In my country roids are expensive. But for 10 USD a month, you can run around 145 mg test weekly.
You can do 2500 mg a week for 10 USD a month if you homebrew.
https://cryptopharma.store/product/testosterone-enanthate-raw-powder-100-grams/
hmmm
dragon and ppl have test for around a buck. right under if I'm not mistaken. and still, at 1,8 buck a gram, I showed you where you can get test for under 10 bucks moron.
link?
purplepandalabs
dragonordnance
0,72-0,96 usd pr gram for test e/cyp
https://dragonordnance.com/goods?code=11123853545
https://www.purplepandalabs.io/goods?code=201707182232045
neat
test E is pr 50 grams. prolly due to demand or some shit. Cyp and prop is pr g.
R/steroids has info on hom brew if u r new
the only plant extract I found that actually does anything is yohimbe and it's $35/kg
also kratom
is a heart attack simmulator for me, and I feel not much from actual stimulants
I've never had a problem sleeping or with rock hard boners. Why do I need to maximize my hormones again?
nobody cares about your blissful life
for gains noob
You don't need to maximize your hormones for gains. Just lift bro.
why not both
Maximize your gains
Well good for you chad, some of us need extra boosted recovery because we don't have 10000 t naturally and stress free sleep all day every day
Proper diet, sleep, and training regimen
>Optimizes your sleep
>Maximizes your hormones
>Rock hard boners
>proper diet
>sleep
>training
+80 stats
>add supplements
+10 stats
Very hard to comprehend for some
if supplements helps you sleep and train to begin with, then it's net more than +10
I think the 80-10 is pretty fair. But I do think some "supplements" should be considered in the 80 rather than the 10. Obvious example are whey, creatine, but less focused magnesium/zinc/potassium/sodium/boron/copper etc. Minerals are probably 10-20% on their own with how much impact they have. Another big one imo is garlic and ginger. These are all "supplements" but really I would consider it part of the diet.
Things like turkesterone (whether it's real or fake), or beta ecdy, epicatechin, etc. are definitely the final "10".
I think foundational adaptogens and other herbs or useful supps like GDAs/blood sugar controllers (berberine, c3g), cortisol modulators/ hormone enhancers (ash, tongkat, cistance, NAC etc.) can be life changing for some individuals, and even the placebo is more than enough in most cases for the mentally weak.
+10 is generous I would consider it a stretch to say +1. I have never taken a supplement that felt like it was doing shit. I've taken prohormones too, though I need to experiment with transdermal application.
1lb bag of copper for $14 https://www.amazon.com/Copper-Sulfate-Pentahydrate-Dissolve-Powder/dp/B00L222PXA
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC115861/
https://www.bulksupplements.com/products/edta-disodium-powder
https://purebulk.com/products/edta-calcium-disodium
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC115861/
Seems like EDTA just screws up blood tests, doesn't actually increase testosterone. Average estrogen levels go 100 times higher than normal.
well it removes cadmium, mercury and lead, which kills test in even tiny doses
if roiding lowers test production, cant you just do a HRT cycle to increase natural production? maybe its the reason late stage MtF troons never pass
Eggs and onions
Boron is potent and to a lesser extent zma is good. The rest you can throw away.
You know what's missing from his list? D3 and calcium unless his dairy intake is high af.
OP here
I already get D3 from sun (full body naked tanning balls too) and eat a lot of calcium. Thats why I dont supp it. I do have some d3 in the freezer tho for those gloomy weeks
Good callout. I eat a lot of garlic ginger and onions also.
Wait so taking zinc without copper is bad? does zinc compete for copper binding?
Oh a lot of food already contains copper
>The absorption of copper in the body will increase if the diet contains less copper, and decrease if the body has enough copper.
>organ meats, shellfish, fish, nuts, and seeds as well as whole grains and chocolate.
I eat a lot of dark cocao, fish, scallops, nuts, and some baby lamb liver once in a while
a lifetime supply bag of copper is $14, i take a microscoop every few days
i think if you're taking big zinc, you should also be eating a lot of eggs for the cholesterol
Some interesting thing I've learned from this thread and recently
>Zinc + Eggs
>Zinc + Copper (maybe separate times in the day)
>Iodine+Selenium+magnesium+Tumeric helps to unbind the halides
>Calcium competes heavily against Zinc
>Boron seems legit
>Garlic Ginger and Onions good for test support
>Eat Organ meats and plants
Great stuff guys
Boron increases free testosterone by preventing test from binding acccording to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/
EDTA cures iron overload, pulls calcium from arteries and bones (rebuilds), removes mercury lead cadmium etc.
Magnesium could increase energy due to the enzyme processes it's involved in
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC115861/
One thing Im concerned about with these bagged chemicals. how clean is the way they are produced? chance of being tainted by some toxic shit?
They're lab tested isolated compounds and there's lots of people (including myself) eating purebulk bulksupplements and writing reviews
They're not gonna risk bad reviews given their reputation so far
Couldn't get to your link. How is this one?
https://a.co/d/2Xawmkg
>https://a.co/d/2Xawmkg
It's amazon EDTA
see
amazon has the bulksupplements bag but the official site has 10% off
also purebulk has 25% off (MOTHERNATURE)
the bulk on amazon is just disodium not calcium disodium. it says its different and the non-calcium one is just a preservative
They're both fine, disodium EDTA will pull more calcium. I have calcium disodium and I want to try disodium.
Thanks for this. Will look into it the next time i pick up supps
> Boron seems legit
Please don’t take that sup guys
why
It will frick your test levels and make you a troony
research? proof?
Don't listen to this israelite. Boron is an essential mineral like Mag or Zinc and is lacking in most diets. Too much Boron, akin to too much Zinc or Magnesium can be detrimental. This is generally only seen in the long term and due to the intake of other minerals in excess. As mentioned in this thread, zinc both competes and ultimately depletes copper. On it's own, Boron has a wide array of benefits with little to no drawbacks.
Some people do find cycling it can keep those benefits more apparent, but this is likely just to to the cessation and reintroduction effect. It's kind of like taking ZMA for the first few weeks, your body "get's used to" the new baseline.
I've recently started adding Trace Minerals (which includes boron and others) to my RO water and noticed insane benefits. The caveat being that the minerals are in an optimal ratio as nature intends. I actually stopped supplementing with boron alone because of this. Highly recommend to everyone reading.
Boron it’s dangerous don’t take it
Shalom
ok moron go ahead and take it then. i hope you covered the basics tho
Sweaty, I've been taking it for almost 9 months for RA and it also definitely gives an enhanced EQ and overall health benefit. It has an LD50 similar to that of table salt. Wake up. Free Palestine.
bro leave the israelite alone and answer this
Not sure about the biological processes of caffeine, I drink stovetop espresso too but have cut back on coffee for the sake of reducing cortisol. Though I enjoy nicotine gum daily as a nootropic and it has a slightly different stimulating effect.
Zinc directly competes with copper absorption hence the recommendations to keep it at a ratio of 8:1, which is almost the same ratio as a 15mg zinc tab with 2mg copper. There's a few studies out there that claim it's exaggerated but I think they're cooked with my personal experience of zinc picolinate making my hair turn white. That zinc tablet was literally the only variable.
I think people are more likely to be low copper if anything. It's in plant foods, which everyone here is terrified of, and in organ meats which not so many people eat. Zinc meanwhile is overly prevalent in muscle meat and still biased in dairy. Zinc deficiencies are a gaslight by the supplement industry.
Is being so high body fat ruins my test production? I’ve been on both sides but the extra foods makes my recovery go way better. Is this fatty cope or I’m I making sense? I’m 77kg 176cm
losing any body fat increases test, yes
just keep training and eat as needed/planned. look at caloric intake in terms of the entire week
Orange triad is pretty lit too contains all of this and joint support. Company has been around for over a decade and people on misc preferred this in the past
Zinc and cholesterol are used by the leydig cells to produce testosterone
Iodine will fix iodine deficiency (everyone not taking iodine in the mg range has it), kick out squatted fluorine, bromine, mercury and improve thyroid and therefore liver function
yup as listed here. make sure to take it with some cofactors that help remove those bromine mercury and flouride while also protecting the thyroid from autoimmune issues that some people get with iodine
This is the iodine i take https://www.amazon.com/Potassium-Iodide-grams-Crystals-Powder/dp/B01JDYN2FS
Reminder that all of these are horribly contaminated with all types of harmful shit, including heavy metals. You might see positive results from taking them once or twice, but taking all these pills for extended periods of time is not a good idea. As polluted as modern food is it doesn't compare to how poor the methods for production of these chemicals are. There are exceptions like aspirin and cyproheptadine, but for the most part it's good to keep some distance from this shit.
this is actually my main concern
>Reminder that all of these are horribly contaminated with all types of harmful shit, including heavy metals.
they're all lab tested to ensure purity, bulksupplements and purebulk has a PDF for each item, and there is no mercury, cadmium, lead or nickel involved in the process of making any supplement
i'm afraid you're 100% moronic and full of shit
You're past gullible if you believe those things. Every other month there is a scandal where supplements like these are tested independently and found to contain outrageous shit. And that's not even mentioning pill casings, fillers etc which are bought from china and assumed to be pure because that chinese lab said so. Even if that weren't so, the very processes of synthesizing these chemicals almost always produce harmful biproducts which are left in if the method is established. The lab-made instead of food business is rotten to the core.
link to the poisoned bag of vitamin C or zinc or whatever
I don't follow? I haven't mentioned either of those, but as an aside.
>Over the next 20 years, my own increased sensitivity to synthetic ascorbate led me to look for such reactions in others. The same people who reacted to it often reacted similarly to riboflavin and rutin, which were also made from cornstarch by oxidation. I ascribed the reaction to some industrial contaminant that they had in common, possibly the heavy metals introduced with the sulfuric acid.The heavy metal contamination of synthetic ascorbate is so great that one 500 mg tablet dissolved in a liter of water produces free radicals at a rate that would require a killing dose of x-rays to equal.The only clean and safe vitamin C now available is that in fresh fruits, meats, etc. The commercial stuff is seriously dangerous."
Allegedly there are now some vit c brands which use the old method of synthesis from the 50s and are supposedly safer, but I haven't tried them.
ok there wasn't a single url that serves as evidence for your claim that lab tested compounds are "poisoned" in this post
I never said that in the first place. Try Google.com I guess
Opinion discarded.
Redpill me on Ashwagandha
Is the thing about it making you emotionless true?
Can I psycopathmax with this or does it just make you hate life?
It's a good supplement for trannies and redditors.
Ash is great if you are under a ton of stress or need to cope with something. It potently reduces cortisol and increases GABA tone (glutamate vs gaba balance). One of it's main MOA's is agonizing the 5HT1a receptor which is akin to some popular SSRIs. Agonists are effective, but with a lot of receptors, agonizing will cause downregulation in the long term and make them less sensitive.
I would say most people would find benefit from it but those people would probably also benefit from a low dose SSRI. It can cause some anhedonia which is basically a lack of motivation and feeling. I took it daily for a while and got into some of the stronger exracts like Shoden and after around the 3rd day it makes me less motivated and ends up causing more anxiety. I would save it for stressful events or only take it with or after a heaping quantity of pre and an intense lift.
My advice would be to try it for a week and try to document changes you notice. For most there will definitely be less "noise" but like I said, this tends to taper down over time. If cortisol is your concern I would look into legit Tongkat. I actually prefer Cistanche and think it fits a similar niche to the claims of Ash, without any of the serotonin modulating.
>ash
If you don't compete and you take gear you're an impatient loser.
fyi there's zero lab testing or certificate for vegetable oils, whether it's in a bottle or in your goyslop
this was never intended by the makers to be consumed by humans and yet it's in your prepackaged food
it belongs in your car and in heavy machinery
holy grail cheap antioxidant - EDTA ($36/1kg), vitamin C ($31/5lb), B3 ($26/1kg), MSM ($11.69/1lb), baking soda
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my life extention multi vit says that it has 3g boron in it. im i covered or do i need mroe
3mg is fine, up to you whether you want to stick a microscoop in a box of borax
>tongkat ali
shit's illegal here so it must work
ok it seems to be legal, but not allowed to be sold for human consumption
Why do all of you people stuff yourself with weird (probably impure/contaminated to some degree) herbal concoctions?
It's 2023 AD; you can simply deprive yourself of sleep for a few days to tank your T, go to your local mens' clinic for testing/diagnosis, and get some pure testosterone to shoot directly into your ass
bros since there are a lot of high iq chads here.
What's the scoop on caffeine? i drink a lot of espressos during the day and i wanna know if im fricking up my testosterone levels.
Yeah I already have all this naturally. I got the worse things naturally too. Acne that leaves scars which makes you take accutane and lots of hair which causes in grown hair problems. Pilonidal cyst and hair scars. Unless you literally can’t get it up, you shouldn’t take test.