>tfw i realize all sexual activity outside of heterosexual marriage for the strict purpose of procreation is wrong
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>tfw i realize all sexual activity outside of heterosexual marriage for the strict purpose of procreation is wrong
Anything you do for pleasure is wrong. Why aren't you being a real man, staying focused, and providing for your family and society?
What if i gain erotic pleaure from my data entry job that i use to provide for my family?
you don't
you quit it and start living in the streets
Anon, management has had it up to *here* with you. Stop jamming your wiener into the server ports or youre fired.
So you say I should quit my tiling job just because tightly laid tiles arouse me?
That you tile fricker?
YAGMI
>sexual activity outside of heterosexual marriage for the strict purpose of procreation is wrong
this is true, but
>women don't agree with you
>you can't find a wife if you don't first have a gf
>you can't find a gf if you don't first frick her
Pray for a woman and try your best.
God will give.
You don't have to frick someone for them to be your gf.
>Never dated a latina
They frick you first to see if they can tolerate everything else. Depending on the level of “fun” they had determines if you are bf, fwb, ons, or rapist needed to be reported. The first two stats have room to fall or upgrade depending on confounding factors.
Why is it wrong?
meditate more
So it's not wrong?
Share what you've learned through meditation, why is sex outside of marriage for reasons other than procreation wrong?
Lol if you meditated more you would realize ultimately there is no “right” or “wrong”
There is no situation where having premarital sex benefits you or society at large. By having premarital sex, you perpetuate hook-up culture and you worsen a woman's chance to have a happy, successful marriage. As a man, it is your, and only your, responsibility to guide the women of your society in the right direction, and by having premarital sex, you hide from this responsibility.
>There is no situation where having premarital sex benefits you or society at large
Having sex answers a natural need, thus it benefits me. Playing a game of soccer with your friends doesn't benefit society at large but it doesn't make it wrong either
>By having premarital sex, you perpetuate hook-up culture and you worsen a woman's chance to have a happy, successful marriage
Many men and women have made their made their marks in history as important and glorious figures but never were married. Happinness or virtue aren't necessarily correlated with marriage
Sexual activities aren't in themselves, they are natural. What makes them "bad" or "wrong" is perfoming with intentions, values and withing contexts that aren't exclusive to am i married or not.
You're a broken man, nobody should take your advice on women.
Maybe you should explain why do you think that of me
>What makes them "bad" or "wrong" is perfoming with intentions, values and withing contexts that aren't exclusive to am i married or not
What makes it bad or wrong (notice no hyphens used to play down the wrongness) is that you have removed the action of sex from it's primary purpose of producing strong, healthy children. When you use birth control and pump and dump women, you do this for no reason but temporary pleasure. Nothing good comes out of it, and you go into it knowing that the relationship will not come to fruition. You are looking for an excuse to continue living your hedonistic lifestyle instead of manning up and taking responsibility.
> Having sex answers a natural need, thus it benefits me
Procreation is a natural need, not stifled, purposeless "sex". You have a drive to pass on your genes and create a healthy child, not physiologically destroy women by using them as a cumdumpster.
> Many men and women have made their made their marks in history as important and glorious figures but never were married.
The greatest men on earth sublimated their sexual urges to fuel their greatness instead of wasting them and causing negative outcomes for others because of it.
>When you use birth control and pump and dump women, you do this for no reason but temporary pleasure. Nothing good comes out of it, and you go into it knowing that the relationship will not come to fruition.
Using IST, for example, is an activity that produces no real good, we browse for temporary pleasure and/or distraction and nothing ever comes out of it. Does that make it inherently wrong? I don't think it does.
>not physiologically destroy women by using them as a cumdumpster.
I think the problem is that you are seeing things as black or white. You think that one either just has romantic sex with our pure soulmates or that one goes around fricking the first prostitute we meet on the streets like rabbits
I'm not advocating for hypergamy, as a matter of fact i don't agree with that concept at all, but i find disregarding any kind of sex aside from wanting to recreate with your husband or wife a reductive point of view
Let's say i meet a girl on a summer camp. We're both the same age and we both genuinely like each other, to the point that one day while we watch the sunset we look at each other's eyes before kissing. Things escalate from there and we end up having sex. A month later she returns home and i return to mine, we understand that a relationship isn't possible but we accept that and just cherish the memory of each other. Was that wrong?
>The greatest men on earth sublimated their sexual urges to fuel their greatness instead of wasting them and causing negative outcomes for others because of it.
And how do you know that these men never indulged in unnecesary, so to speak, sexual behavior? Again, i do agree that restraint and discipline are fundamental aspects for anyone who wants to be great but we also have to be realistic
>And how do you know that these men never indulged in unnecesary, so to speak, sexual behavior?
So what you are saying is that if some prominent people act somewhat immorally it means that it is now ok to act immorally. No one is perfect, I understand that, but you aren't even striving to be better. You are just rationing immoral behavior. All you are saying is "bro people in Hollywood are famous and make money, so if they have sex with children maybe I can too"
>You think that one either just has romantic sex with our pure soulmates or that one goes around fricking the first prostitute we meet on the streets like rabbits
This is what you do, yes. You find a woman who sexually arouses you, you have sex with her, and then you dump her on the curb in a few months confused and damaged because you failed to do your job as a man and keep it in your pants.
> Was that wrong?
Yes. You led a woman into non-committal sex, and then you decided that you were done with her. That's wrong.
>So what you are saying is that if some prominent people act somewhat immorally it means that it is now ok to act immorally.
That's not what i'm saying. My point is that sex before marriage doesn't discard someone from being good or possesing virtues
>and then you dump her on the curb in a few months confused and damaged
You can part ways with someone on a cordial manner. You're making big generalizations
>You led a woman into non-committal sex, and then you decided that you were done with her
In the example that i proposed we both agreed to do it because we liked each other and we both agreed to leave it behind because we couldn't be together. Following the example, how is that wrong?
In any case, i do understand your ideals even if i don't fully agree with them. I guess we'll just agree to disagree, see you later aligator
>Using IST, for example, is an activity that produces no real good, we browse for temporary pleasure and/or distraction and nothing ever comes out of it. Does that make it inherently wrong? I don't think it does.
You make a good point here, and I should get off of IST. My only hope, since I don't expect to convince you, is that some other anon reads my replies to you and decides to take responsibility of his actions.
>Not psychologically Destroying women
Women are full time horny too and not some pure flower. This pure flower mentality comes from a very recent time (real government enforcement wasn’t until the mid 1980’s, so much so most family sitcoms had had old maid episodes about their high school daughters) you could still marry a 14 year old and sex was saved for the wedding night. If you want pure wives back then you have to undo what the feminists have rallied for and good luck putting the lid back on Pandora’s Box. We are too deep in now so learn to enjoy hedonism (free sex, hookers, porn, dolls) or become a monk because purity no longer exists in the world. If we are lucky armageddon is only a few months away.
>Women are full time horny too and not some pure flower. This pure flower mentality comes from a very recent time
I don't think that women are "pure flowers", they obviously have their own type of sexual drive. It's up to the men of society to mitigate and soften it though, as as done for millennia before the sexual revolution. Just because the world is immoral doesn't give you the right to be immoral too
Okay you’ve never fricked confirmed. Stop thinking about sex, stop touching your wiener, there are several monasteries you can join but don’t be surprised when you are bunked with a gay rapist.
>stop touching your wiener
Already have that covered. I'm one year porn and masturbation free.
> there are several monasteries you can join
Asceticism is gay. There's a middle ground, you know.
Nope, I’m telling you you need to leave society. Maybe you can come out on the other side but I don’t care. Catholic, Buddhist, Jonestown, you are already disconnected from reality go join the people who think like you.
>If you don't embrace blameless hedonism like me you are INSANE. You want to take personal responsibility for the state of things? Erm, I think you mean you want to DRINK THE KOOL AID, am I right guys?
No, you specifically are a jack ass who needs to actually go away for a year or five. You think you have some formula for life and I am telling you to go be among the masters and the wanna be masters that want to butt frick little boys to test yourself. I added Jonestown because I don’t particularly like you and think it would be funny if you kys for the greater good.
Wrong in what way?
I hate the antichrist
I hate the demiruge
Kate Hikes
Frick ~~*jannies*~~
Wrong for you, but you do not get to impose your beliefs on anyone else.
WRONG IN WHAT WAY YOU HAVE TO TELL US
tfw im a needy christgay virgin dork
all facts btw
But don’t worry about pussy getting boring because God only cares that you take care of the wives you marry, just don’t get a divorce from them and don’t commit adultery until you marry the next one. Or if you don’t want the hassle of “headaches” you buy her as a sex slave. I think personally I could only have time for 4 wives and maybe two concubines. I mean I’m willing to be blessed but we are in a global recession again. Thankfully I’m not called to be a pastor or deacon so I can still have multiple wives and concubines, unlike what Paul laid out for church leadership of preferably celibate forever but allowed only one.
What incels that get 0 pussy tell themselves to cope
my fricking sides holy shit
You must be over 18 to post here
>casual sex is wrong because I cant get laid
touch grass
>B-but noooooooo. I can't understand deferral of desire or noble sacrifice, and I want to continue living like a degenerate!!!!! Your superior actions threaten me and therefore I will project childishness onto you even though it is ultimately my actions that are immature, considering the harm casual sex does to society at large
have sex, now!
>touch grass
On God fr fr no cap
I remember when this used to be posted on this site as a joke
I am 28 years old and I never even kissed a girl
If sex/women aren't important then why do we get so miserable without it?
>just deny your biological programming bro
>it's not a big deal that your genes aren't being deemed worthy to continue
>don't worry over the fact that your brain thinks your billion-year bloodline is ending with you