I hate how the term "inner demons" has become normalized, as usual thanks to zoomers. Imagine having to view your personal issues through the lens of being a young adult novel protagonist.
>I hate how the term "inner demons" has become normalized,
its a popular term that has been used for ages https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201506/enough-about-inner-demons-already
I'm aware. A term existing is not the same as it becoming part of the common vernacular. Just 10 years ago the only people who'd openly say "I'm battling demons" would be trench coat wearing, anime-obsessed teenagers with Wattpad accounts.
No, they would be Christians reading the bible and going to the priest for exorcism.
And after that it would be hippies shooting heroin and putting everything on peace and love. Or metal autists that would larp as satanists and just be degenerate af.
After that it would be your millenial partying and raving to "cool down" from being a goyworker.
Zoomers are doing their best to do what they can in a godless world.
>99% of the people who talk about fighting demons, follow the manosphere and mention "the matrix" are like that because they missed teen sex and didnt enjoy high school
i kekd because its true. also frick you that hurt </3
nah, people who talk about fighting demons are people who have people who give a shit about them. Nobody's going to give the time of day to an incel talking like that, only a particular type of guy that draws people in will get away with talking like that in real life. And Stacy lite will think about how how brave and in touch with his sensitive side he is, being a warrior despite all the things he'd had to face. So no I can't agree with that at all.
2/2
Could be a new term that incels/mgtow has recently reappropriated into their terminology though, I'm certainly not up to date with that stuff. However in my experience battling demons is more something someone with a shtick and an aura takes on as a bit of a gimmick.
this is 99% of the conversations people have on hookup apps. try saying something beyond the "im dancing around the fact i only want you for sex so i dont scare you off" dialogue tree. they know what you're trying to do.
I've gotten beyond this to actually meeting them for dates
but talking in person to them is even harder than online, especially when the only thing I want out of them is sex
No, this is talking to girls online where they're bombarded with attention and validation, talk to women irl where this doesn't happen unless they're famous, thank me later
Except it never ends that simply
They’ll never say “yes” or “no” they’ll string you along for a joyride dancing around either answer
On top of the whole “yes means no” or “no means yes” women speak to be playful or toy with you
There is never a clear answer unless she already likes you super hard beforehand
I'm in highschool and have asked out around 30 girls and been rejected by all of them. How many more times do I have to get humiliated before I find a gf?
Nope.
I couldn't bear to be rejected for the longest time. In fact, I have almost never been flat-out rejected. I needed reassurance and acceptance from women, and importantly I needed to learn that a lot of women will actually say yes to me.
After one of the times I was rejected, I told myself that I'd kms if I was rejected again, so I didn't ask a girl out for over a year after that.
Friendly reminder: you’re not “MGTOW” if you’re an incel, you can’t just choose to cope and say “this is my choice”, you need to have fricked on a regular basis before that otherwise it’s just pure copium.
Can I use a “virgin and loser” label? I kinda don’t understand the definition of a word “incel”. I don’t want to go through several hundreds rejection to use it, in fact I don’t want to get rejected so I just do r try. Am I still an incel? Some bluepilled nor more will say otherwise.
if you are getting rejected that much you probably are shooting to high or making it up try a 6/10 and work your way up from there and if thats what you are doing then there are ugly girls that will cook clean suck your dick just she'll be ugly
I probably didn’t make myself clear. I’m not getting rejected, because I don’t try. And I don’t want to try, because I am afraid of failing. I wanted to know what kind of label I should put on myself for that in anon’s opinion since I don’t understand what a word “incel” means.
zoomers are such homosexuals
approaching and talking to girls is the easiest step
keeping them interested in you and building long term relationship is much harder
It’s not. You will both get bored, you will eventually have arguments/disagreements, and a lot of girls these days don’t have the tolerance for much of this and will break up with you over not much thinking the grass is greener or that they need to experience “freedom” again. Literally every aspect of modern life / current western culture pushes them towards this pattern.
There are a lot of 30+ men here who complain about not having sex in years or being a virgin,is not a zoomer thing. Just go to the feels bar thread and have a laugh
I don't care about random chicks. The one I let go is married with kids now. I actually just woke up from a nightmare where she was married with kids and I was basically scrambling the whole time to try to get a good paying job (accounting, lawyer, etc.) and I flopped at them all. And in my dream I was wailing in pain in the darkness where I was remembering memories I had of her being warm to me and sharing her feelings. The dream felt long as shit too. Like if I was in the dream for a few days or weeks or something. The overall setting was depressing to all hell and I can't remember the whole thing exactly. Woke up, but that dream was heavily centered to reality because I flopped with jobs and stuck with low paying shit. Also lost technically over a mil at 24 cause I got in early in crypto. Then at early 25 I had like 230-250k or so only to end up broke again at 28. She lives in my head rent free and I look good, but I simply don't want anyone else. I can't fall for random people because my oneitit shit doesn't go away. I tried to brute force it 2 years ago with another chick and would hang out for months, but I just couldn't get myself to feel anything. Also I'm 5'6" which ruined my head years ago which is what lead to my downfall. Obsessed with LL surgeries now to become 5'10". My only goal now really is to get rich next bull cycle, get the LLs, recover for another 1-2 fricking years, and then jump on PEDs to play catch up, and then die of a heart attack from PED abuse
99.9% of them have deadly amounts of mercury aka used up bawds that want to settle down after their prostitute phase and are liabilities too aka high divorce rates which = financial obliteration. Most are worse than worthless (hence liabilities) and the few that I've met that are warm/virgins/old fashioned and even had my personality.. well sadly I wasn't able to make a connection with them. I tried to force my brain to feel sexual attraction, but I couldn't. It's hyper rare for me to get a crush. I've had like 3 ever more whole life and really I only care about this one person. What's funny is I never approached chicks. They always approached me, but I've always struggled with opening up or just feeling anything for people in general. Chemistry is random and someone being a 10/10 just doesn't do it for me. I need to feel a spark. The chances of me catching feelings for anyone else are most likely 0. I just can't imagine it
You need to get off the internet for a while and get some therapy so someone can help process your brain right now. She isnt coming back by the way. Accept it.
My problem isn't that I can't talk to girls, I am just rarely in situations where I meet girls I can actually sleep with or date these days.
When I am at parties, bars etc I have quite a bit of success, but these days I rarely have a good opportunities. I can literally just get eye contact with girls and wave them over to me and my friends table at a bar, or just tap the seat next to me to get a girl to sit down with me, which I have done several times.
>not having regular sex or a gf makes a man mad with the World. Blames everyone but himself and creates imaginary enemies
Is there a book that talk about this? Is a modern phenomenon. Men are so bitter nowadays and they look at the worst parental figures instead of figuring out what is wrong with them
>That guy 'battling demons' in the gym >he just cant talk to girls
>the guy finally confronts his demons and talks to some girl, then another one, then get a date, then start a relationship >then he discovers the true nature of women >now he is battling a real demon he sees after he returns from the gym
>>then he discovers the true nature of women
nibba who the frick cares. you guys want to be "players" that routinely sleep with random women. a lot of us are just not people's people. the effort of interacting with another human is not worth the "fun" of sex. i just want a woman to have children with. simple as. if we dont vibe, we'll work on it.
honestly i was in a similar situation (but 24) and the whole reason i was barely getting any is because i cared too much. its why when youre already getting sex on a semi regular basis you get laid more because you when you interact with women you aren't bigging it up in your head too much because if they turn you down, who tf cares as youre already getting laid. the second you stop caring about getting rejected the better because you literally have nothing to lose and everything to gain so why just instantly put yourself down before youve even tried.
Idk I just want to be alone. Having gfs or sex is really nice. Its wonderfull having someone that listens and cares for you but after some time I get so tired of it. I focus a lot on myself and I have a lot of shit going on but I really dont think I will be able to talk romanticly with a female
I don't go to a public gym and I don't talk to girls ever. The demons I'm battling are not only inside me but they are very real. I'm fighting against the whole fricking world, man. And I'm never giving up, no matter how hard it gets, because I have a dream!
i like knowing that im strong and my strenght could be necessary if something happens. I really dont lift to get laid because i never had a problem getting laid
i box since i was 16 and cardio was never a problem for me. With the years (im 32 now) i started focusing more on strenght just twice a week. Im one of those people who dont like bodybuilding overall, training two muscle groups per day is not for me.
The morons are people looking ke you who never did any research about lifting except "get me the b***hes".
11 months ago
Anonymous
What are you on about, dumbass?
Post body now.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Keep denying the health benefits of lifting dumbass, keep doing it.
Why does it make you upset?
11 months ago
Anonymous
When did I deny the health benefits, you schizo?
You're just massively coping because you look awful.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't say anything bad at all, my point is there's more to fitness than women. You're the one who got triggered and started shitting up the points I made because you're insecure.
Women get with lards and skellies all the time. I'm addressing people who think lifting is just for women, and act as if there's no better reason to do it.
People with that mentality should just quit instead of bullying the rest of us and telling us not to lift unless it's just for women.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody said it's just for women, you schizo. You're putting that strawman there because you're upset that people want to be attractive to women.
In any case, you don't lift and you look like shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Read the thread and then you'll understand why I responded as I did, otherwise, good day
11 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, so you're just extremely stupid. Thanks for clarifying.
A good predictor of quality of life as a person ages? Ability to squat.
Guess what, lifting doesn't get you b***hes, if you're decent, attractive, and the right hight, women don't give a rat's ass.
So knowing this information, just quit lifting and stop shitting up fitness boards everywhere with nonsense.
Some of us actually care about our bodies, some of us just want to look like we're preparing to fight Frieza.
Why is it people who lift for women are so fricking insecure that they need to impose themselves on the rest of us?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>tranime
kys, homosexual.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's known women don't give a shit about whether a dude lifts or not, it doesn't make a material difference on odds of getting women.
What now, will you quit lifting?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Delusional cope by moron who looks like shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
they do give a shit if you are out of shape or not, at least their vegana
11 months ago
Anonymous
Literally anything anybody does is ultimately and subconsciously for sex. Caring about your body is inherently subconsciously driven by a desire to attract a mate and you have to be moronic not to see that. All life is sex. Take the Robert California-pill.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Plebbit show >Plebbit evolution based sex obsession (forgetting the actual point is procreation) >Plebbit reductionism
11 months ago
Anonymous
The Office is based. One of the last vestiges of aryan humor that haven't been cancelled because black people don't watch it and assume it's harmless white nerd comedy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>black people don't watch it
Outside of Finnish media there's nothing that hasn't been seen
>i like knowing that im strong and my strenght could be necessary if something happens
...because it is attractive to women. Women avoid lifting weights for the same exact reason.
>Why else would men waste time lifting things up and putting them down for hours every week for years?
Nobody said it's just for women, you schizo. You're putting that strawman there because you're upset that people want to be attractive to women.
In any case, you don't lift and you look like shit.
32 here and was in a similar situation. Post me too I feel so weird approaching women. When I did get a date I felt like I was raping them if I went in for a kiss or initiated any physical contact. Luckily I didn’t get the clot shot and my current gf messaged me because she didn’t have it either and didn’t want to date anyone with it. So my advice is get a nice browser based dating profile set up so you aren’t constantly checking your phone and then wait for a woman to fall into your spiders web. If you have good pictures (pictures of you doing actual activities do not upload selfies it makes it look like you have no friends) some woman will eventually message you. It’s how I’ve gotten all of my girlfriends post me too era.
>pictures of you doing actual activities do not upload selfies it makes it look like you have no friends
I have no friends that take pictures, and we don't do much actual activities
solution: get them, do them, take them
I wish I wasn't self-aware.
And I don't mean that good side of being self-aware, but literally crippling, and I mean crippling levels of self-awareness of every little miniscule detail. When I interact with someone I am aware of the speed I am talking, the posture I am holding, the tone I am expressing, the eye contact I am holding, the body language I am expressing, my brain is literally working on overdrive 110% every single time and as soon as I do something "wrong" in any of these things I feel like I did something terribly wrong. Every single second feels like an hour and I am constantly in fight or flight mode. My heart starts pumping so much that at some point I literally start to think that even the other person can hear it, especially indoors in a quiet setting.
Every social interaction is like Q&A conversation in a RPG game, but instead of 3 possible questions/answers and endless time to pick the correct response there's like 3 million possible questions/answers to choose from and a deadly awkwardness timer going on, where if you don't quickly pick a response in milliseconds and not picking the right response results in me dying right there on the spot.
I want to erase that, to just be able not to think about any of that and not act manually. To be able to just talk about the weather or something dumb like that without thinking much about it. At this rate I'll die in my 30s out of nothing but pure stress cortisol overload.
Thanks for reading my blog post
Original anon here, I guess I can sort of relate to that when it comes to conversations, but not with anything else. I don't get sensory overload at concerts or the gym or at work or pretty much anywhere. Never had any kind of full on panic attack or anything like that, only after almost every conversation I basically feel "spent" and exhausted, especially if it's small talk.
The most interesting concept in the Bible (in Genesis, particularly) to me is what you describe: the fact that Man knew sin and suffering when he became self-aware (conscious) - the product of eating the Forbidden Fruit. Self-consciousness is the root of neuroticism, but it also grants you a higher consciousness - a choice to act (or not) upon the fruit of your consciousness.
If you experience this kind of conscience, it means you are able to reach a deep level of awareness, not necessarily of yourself, although that is possible, but of the world at large.
You have more potential than you know, anon. Work hard and accomplish things that give you confidence and self-esteem. It's totally normal to be aware of your own mediocrity if you have accomplished nothing. Getting IST will already help you tremendously if you aren't.
Good luck Anon. You will make it through this. Always remember that you have just as much value as anyone else you meet, because in the finality of this material world, we all have a soul, and the only arbiter of its worth is God judging the actions you have chosen to take.
Godspeed.
I am a lot like this anon.
Do you have practice conversations with people in your head, like imagining what they will say and then coming up with preplanned responses to them, and so on? I have found that it's rather helpful in improving my conversational ability, because with time, I have become better able to anticipate how certain people will react to the things I say, and so I am more adept at choosing the optimal thing to say at short notice.
Another thing I do is talk slowly, pause mid-sentence and look up in thought or stutter my words in order to gain more time to think up a response.
I have found that both of these things, along with practicing talking to strangers has greatly benefited me to interact with and talk to people, and I can actually enjoy being with people now.
Not that anon, but I do that and while my ability to talk to others has improved, I still don't really enjoy it because I always have to be mindful of their body language to ensure I am not going on monologues and boring them with things they are not interested.
>Do you have practice conversations with people in your head
Yeah, but I try to avoid doing that because in most cases it makes the end conversation worse not better. I sort of have enough questions to keep the conversation going yes, but the conversation turns more into some sort of weird interview instead of an actual conversation, it doesn't flow right. >Another thing I do is talk slowly, pause mid-sentence
This thing is the worst to me, how is that helpful to you? It only makes me even more anxious like I said with the deadly awkwardness timer going on if I don't pick a response quickly enough.
The only thing which sort of helps to me is to fully focus on the other person and try to give them full attention and not to think about myself, but that's hard as well. My brain is still working in 110% overdrive in most conversations because of it it's incredibly draining
>the conversation turns more into some sort of weird interview
To avoid this, I try to give my perspective - either on their answer or to the question itself - in between asking questions, and I've found this allows things to flow better, and also build rapport with people. It also gives them a chance to ask their own questions, or to further elaborate on their opinions. Hope this helps you. >how is that helpful to you?
I think it might be that I'm then confronting my anxiety head-on, and so after doing it enough times and having the other person be respectful enough to let me finish speaking, it helped me to get over that anxiety. You also realize that talking fast and stilted is actually far worse than being a bit slow.
One other thing I do is try to channel people who are good conversationalists, and almost imagine that I am them when I am talking.
Keep at it anon. 6 years ago, I could not keep a conversation for longer than 30 seconds. I forced myself to practice a lot, and I did get really down on myself when I felt like things went poorly. As you build confidence (i.e. having a better understanding of how situations will develop), it starts to feel better. Find the advice that works for you (not necessarily mine by the sounds of it) and try to gradually implement it.
Ok makes sense.
I can keep a conversation actually even if my brain is working in overdrive, but honestly it all feels like I'm putting on a mask, like I'm playing pretend, especially for small talk. I know that I should expand on what the other person replies etc, but it feels more like I'm manually following some imaginary conversation chart instead of actually having a conversation. I guess I have just have to do it as much as possible, I only worry that I'll only get very good at this conversation algorithm following mask-on pretend instead of actually having a conversation.
I think it's not terrible to develop the mask-on style to the point where you can talk to various people for extended periods of time, as this will put your foot in the door to develop more natural conversation skills.
A lot of building conversational skills if you're autistic is actively focusing on making the conversation more natural, and as long as you can maintain conversations, you will have many opportunities to practice this skill.
Also, it is good to talk to people who are good conversationalists, as their speech traits should rub off on you (this is called convergence).
Seems you're perfectly right here, I'm definitely self conscious, although it just seems like a more narrow term than self-aware. I am self conscious though, neurotic and obviously over analyze everything to the smallest detail again and again
I actually find women to be more pleasant to interact with than men, but the first and last time I ever attempted to make a move with a girl was in 2009.
>*waits 3 days to text her to make it seem like she hasn't preoccupied my every thought since we met* >"Hello.This is anon. 🙂 I was wondering if you'd like to go for a drive this weekend, maybe to the beach?" >"who is this?" >takemeout.wav
Dude , I've been called good looking by over 100 different people in my life, am ripped, have dedicated hobbies, religious, tall, and have strong social skills, but I've been struggling to talk to girls the past couple years(girls that I like). I used to get a lot of girls in college but something changed after I feel into a psychotic depression, so give me tips pls any coaches to help with this?
>>That guy 'battling demons' in the gym >>he just cant talk to girls
get on my level you delusional gayots. im denji and im training for power. (t.28 khv)
>you are behaving like child >t. adult obsessed with children's cartoons
11 months ago
Anonymous
Actively insulting people without provocation, contributing to conversation, or making rational points.
> Children like it
Children like a lot of things. If your goal is to define yourself opposite to children, you're just left with sex and finances, the end game of which is, to allow children to like the things they like, before they become jaded examples like you.
>tfw my ex gf is still obsessed with me after a year >I know I’m capable of making a girl happy >fail to get a new gf >thinking of getting ex back because of that.
had my ex bpd gf blocked and she called me from her mothers phone today. She told me that she ‘can’t get over me’ and that she wants to meet.
I broke up with her back in October because she wanted to invite a male friend who was in her uni at her house (other people were invited aswell) I told her no and that she is disrespectful for asking and i blocked her
She started sending me emails everyday telling me that im the worse person and the most toxic she ever met. Long story short she came back in town 2 weeks ago, we met for 15 mins because i was a beta and i agreed to see her but i didn't frick her. She left my car crying because i didn't hug her.
I’m thinking of giving in and have sex with her because I’m dry since October 2022,but I don’t know bros.
She called me 5 times after that call in the morning and I told her to shut the frick up. she came outside my house and i sat in her car for 10 mins and she tried to touch me and have sex with me. I told her that i don't want her, and she started laughing at me and she said she doesn't believe me. I was strong af for 2 weeks ignoring her but she won't stop, she is leaving in two days again but will be 3 months for summer here
Should i go or ghost? she is coming here in 30 mins. is it too much of a risk?
frick her and string her along play games with her and definately not write a book report for IST detailing why you broke it off with some bawd cause you're afraid of other dudes at a gathering
>afraid of other dudes at a gathering
this wasn't the only reason i broke it off with her. when we first got together for the 2nd time after a month or so she was texting with a guy she talked before me while i was at a 12h shift. on other occasion she would talk with her ex bf (they didn't frick but still)
She told me that i broke things for nothing and that she wanted to live the rest of her life with me and she still can't get over me and doesn't believe me that i dont want her. i rejected her so many times and she still persists.
11 months ago
Anonymous
use her holes then you homosexual what the frick is wrong with you? you can literally use this girl as a Fleshlight she'll do whatever you want you don't have to be faithful, nice or anything stop being a b***h
11 months ago
Anonymous
>what the frick is wrong with you
i low key have a crush on her, she is wild
>you can Fleshlight her
how do you know that if i go back she will stop being obsessed? also what if she fricked other guys all those months? its easier to talk if you are not in my position
>stop being a b***h
agreed with this
11 months ago
Anonymous
>i low key have a crush on her
you have to realize all those are just chemicals your brain uses to signal things start having a crush on every cute girl you talk to if you get disappointed by one theres millions more
11 months ago
Anonymous
don't listen to this incel, he is trying to get you trapped by getting her pregnant
11 months ago
Anonymous
bro chill, he is dry and he has free pussy. why in the hell would he deny it? this guy here
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Don't use anyone as a fleshlight, but in todays world of course it makes you "alpha" to have a high bodycount and frick girls your not even interested in. In the past you would be called a prostitutemaker but you'll just hurl insults at me anyway.
Just a reminder there is also the alternative of not thinking with your wiener and waiting till you find someone worthwile.
is the definition of beta bux, listen to him if you want but remember this thread because your life depends on it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
Don't use anyone as a fleshlight, but in todays world of course it makes you "alpha" to have a high bodycount and frick girls your not even interested in. In the past you would be called a prostitutemaker but you'll just hurl insults at me anyway.
Just a reminder there is also the alternative of not thinking with your wiener and waiting till you find someone worthwile.
low t gays who get defensive probably pay for girls onlyfans too both of you post body now otherwise get the frick outta here
11 months ago
Anonymous
This, I will frick the shit out of her. She is coming back in town in June until august. If she asked about other girls what do I say? I don’t want her turned off because I’m dry. Should I fap 2 days before she comes? I’m nofap day 50
11 months ago
Anonymous
>other girls
be vague no straight answers >no fap
who cares you aren't there to get her off frick her and cum in 2 minutes whatever you aren'tdoing this for her its for you anon
11 months ago
Anonymous
>If she asked about other girls what do I say
She doesn't mind you not being single and loyal to her?
Wtf has this world turned into...
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Wtf has this world turned into...
i don't get why you act like thats a surprise those kinda girls are made to be used and when you do find a good with with 0 to low bodycount you wrap them up but if you are trying this past 22 or 23 and want your peers you are fricked its not gonna happen then you need to creep on college age girls
11 months ago
Anonymous
You wanna have your cake and eat it too.
And I've heard very few success stories of manprostitutes marrying virgins, even if they manage to land one it just doesn't last. Cope or not?
11 months ago
Anonymous
big cope
11 months ago
Anonymous
>what the frick is wrong with you
i low key have a crush on her, she is wild
>you can Fleshlight her
how do you know that if i go back she will stop being obsessed? also what if she fricked other guys all those months? its easier to talk if you are not in my position
>stop being a b***h
agreed with this
Don't use anyone as a fleshlight, but in todays world of course it makes you "alpha" to have a high bodycount and frick girls your not even interested in. In the past you would be called a prostitutemaker but you'll just hurl insults at me anyway.
Just a reminder there is also the alternative of not thinking with your wiener and waiting till you find someone worthwile.
11 months ago
Anonymous
just dont fricking move in together or do any dumb commitment shit like that holy frick my ex was like that and she attacked me every day when I had enough and wanted to break off
i might be autistic or something but i only lift because i think it's fun and getting bigger muscles is cool
strength is also cool but chasing numbers is a boring and maddening process
i literally just go unga bunga on a barbell and enjoy the inevitable results
wtf do people mean when they talk about "fight my demons" and "get revenge on my ex" and all that bullshit? it literally makes zero sense to me
if that's you, go seek professional help, stop being a moron gymcel
>be me about to hit a full year of consistent training. Thought I was making decent progress as the months rolled on >lying in bed post coitus with girl I only very recently met >she's very genuine and >talking about random shit >mention something about working out or training >'Oh you go to the gym?'
I’ve never really had a woman show interest in me before, I’m age 20 at 5’7. Is this bad? Like how do people even get into relationships or have sex? Dating apps didn’t work for me but I don’t think I’m ugly, 5/10 face
You have to put continuous active effort into trying if you want anything to happen, especially as a 5/10 5'7 dude. If you just wait for things to "happen" you'll die as a virgin
I do try reaching out but people already have friend groups now and don’t really want to meet people outside of those groups. I’ve joined clubs and stuff but it just seems impossible to actually meet new people
Well tough luck, as a short average looking guy you have to try and fail and try and fail for an almost irrational amount if you want things to happen. People won't magically automatically accept you wherever you go, girls won't magically be madly in love with you when you enter a room, you have to continously put effort everywhere to actually get a chance anywhere.
It is what it is, but you do have a chance. You have no chance though if you stop trying after failing.
>I’ve never really had a woman show interest in me before, I’m age 20 at 5’7. Is this bad? Like how do people even get into relationships or have sex? Dating apps didn’t work for me but I don’t think I’m ugly, 5/10 face
You have to put in work, but if you fail, don't let normies blame you, they are incapable of empathy
I’m stuck in a position of not really having any form of personality or social skills to make connections, but needing people to develop a personality and social skills idk how to break this cycle
I used to get attention from girls all the time when I was younger and still do but I’m socially moronic and don’t know what to do with it
Still a virgin, turned 27 3 weeks ago
>sex obsessed hookup culture creeping into everything so that you can't even work out or enjoy your hobbies without people debating over whether doing so will help you pick up chicks better
FRICK
OFF
100% of the female attention I get comes from slightly chubby/chubby cute chicks. Not that I'm complaining, I'll take what I can get. But every chubby girl I've dated just gets bigger over time.
s-shut up
it's gonna be okay bros
haha what a character he is...
I hate how the term "inner demons" has become normalized, as usual thanks to zoomers. Imagine having to view your personal issues through the lens of being a young adult novel protagonist.
>Yea bro my dad drank a beer one day fr fr. Now I'm trying to overcome the traumatizing experience on god
>I hate how the term "inner demons" has become normalized,
its a popular term that has been used for ages https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201506/enough-about-inner-demons-already
I'm aware. A term existing is not the same as it becoming part of the common vernacular. Just 10 years ago the only people who'd openly say "I'm battling demons" would be trench coat wearing, anime-obsessed teenagers with Wattpad accounts.
No, they would be Christians reading the bible and going to the priest for exorcism.
And after that it would be hippies shooting heroin and putting everything on peace and love. Or metal autists that would larp as satanists and just be degenerate af.
After that it would be your millenial partying and raving to "cool down" from being a goyworker.
Zoomers are doing their best to do what they can in a godless world.
>not letting your inner daimon guide you towards your fate
NGMI
>as usual thanks to zoomers
t.fat millenis0y
>as usual thanks to zoomers
bro imagine letting an entire generation live rent free in your head
fr bro they livin rent free on god
Totes my dude, zoomers should be adulting like us Gen Y sorry not sorry I can't even right now
that's literally me though 🙁
>FRICK YOU
>FRICK YOU OP
>FRICK ALL OF YOU
>I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE HEAVY ASS WEIGHT
>GTFO MY WAY
>I DON'T LIFT FOR WOMAN
>AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
This. Why not just battle your demons during sex?
That's the best way imo
>99% of the people who talk about fighting demons, follow the manosphere and mention "the matrix" are like that because they missed teen sex and didnt enjoy high school
i kekd because its true. also frick you that hurt </3
nah, people who talk about fighting demons are people who have people who give a shit about them. Nobody's going to give the time of day to an incel talking like that, only a particular type of guy that draws people in will get away with talking like that in real life. And Stacy lite will think about how how brave and in touch with his sensitive side he is, being a warrior despite all the things he'd had to face. So no I can't agree with that at all.
2/2
Could be a new term that incels/mgtow has recently reappropriated into their terminology though, I'm certainly not up to date with that stuff. However in my experience battling demons is more something someone with a shtick and an aura takes on as a bit of a gimmick.
>talking to girls in 2023
this is 99% of the conversations people have on hookup apps. try saying something beyond the "im dancing around the fact i only want you for sex so i dont scare you off" dialogue tree. they know what you're trying to do.
source: had sex
I've gotten beyond this to actually meeting them for dates
but talking in person to them is even harder than online, especially when the only thing I want out of them is sex
don't use hookup apps unless you're a moron
>t. moron
No, this is talking to girls online where they're bombarded with attention and validation, talk to women irl where this doesn't happen unless they're famous, thank me later
this actually happened to me.
now i'm here. only 4 months lifting... I hope you guys ain't lying that lifting gets girls
>I hope you guys ain't lying that lifting gets girls
no one said that, confidence gets girls, lifting can help, but there are plenty of gymcels
bro if i wasn't confident i wouldn't have approached and have that meme be real irl ffs.
If by “girls” you mean gay men then you’re on the right track bro
>you're cute we should hang out
>no ok
or
>yes and you bang
how hard is that? why are zoomers so afraid of that?
Except it never ends that simply
They’ll never say “yes” or “no” they’ll string you along for a joyride dancing around either answer
On top of the whole “yes means no” or “no means yes” women speak to be playful or toy with you
There is never a clear answer unless she already likes you super hard beforehand
nature is a language if you are asking this to a girl you don't already know likes you then thats your problem learn to read shit better
>Eww creep leave me alone
What was chuddy supposed to say
Literally me
>he just cant talk to girls
Maybe he doesnt want to? I dont want to
What do you mean you don't want to talk to girls, son?
Sorry dad i like shemales
They're scary
son's 110% gay
I'm in highschool and have asked out around 30 girls and been rejected by all of them. How many more times do I have to get humiliated before I find a gf?
why not 300 times? haircut/shower? holding frame? l2grind
>coping
no, you don't understand, I'm gay
So many incels could’ve saved by just having a dad tell them to accept rejection a few times before eventually getting a gf.
Nope.
I couldn't bear to be rejected for the longest time. In fact, I have almost never been flat-out rejected. I needed reassurance and acceptance from women, and importantly I needed to learn that a lot of women will actually say yes to me.
After one of the times I was rejected, I told myself that I'd kms if I was rejected again, so I didn't ask a girl out for over a year after that.
This is the gayest shit I've ever read
I'm glad this is an anonymous forum full of schizos then.
tbh the problem in the zoomer world is everyone in school was afraid of getting made fun of on social media
>a few times
>eventually getting a gf
h-haha r-right
Friendly reminder: you’re not “MGTOW” if you’re an incel, you can’t just choose to cope and say “this is my choice”, you need to have fricked on a regular basis before that otherwise it’s just pure copium.
Can I use a “virgin and loser” label? I kinda don’t understand the definition of a word “incel”. I don’t want to go through several hundreds rejection to use it, in fact I don’t want to get rejected so I just do r try. Am I still an incel? Some bluepilled nor more will say otherwise.
if you are getting rejected that much you probably are shooting to high or making it up try a 6/10 and work your way up from there and if thats what you are doing then there are ugly girls that will cook clean suck your dick just she'll be ugly
I probably didn’t make myself clear. I’m not getting rejected, because I don’t try. And I don’t want to try, because I am afraid of failing. I wanted to know what kind of label I should put on myself for that in anon’s opinion since I don’t understand what a word “incel” means.
homosexual pussy b***h who will never spread his genes honestly you are worse than a troony
Thanks for clarifying!
this honestly reads like a morrissey song
I don’t get it
zoomers are such homosexuals
approaching and talking to girls is the easiest step
keeping them interested in you and building long term relationship is much harder
>keeping them interested in you and building long term relationship
this is super easy if you have something going for yourself
it's not
You just need to be a good communicator and a hard worker
I admit, I'm hard to be with, not very flexible or tolerant to women bullshit
team player too
It’s not. You will both get bored, you will eventually have arguments/disagreements, and a lot of girls these days don’t have the tolerance for much of this and will break up with you over not much thinking the grass is greener or that they need to experience “freedom” again. Literally every aspect of modern life / current western culture pushes them towards this pattern.
There are a lot of 30+ men here who complain about not having sex in years or being a virgin,is not a zoomer thing. Just go to the feels bar thread and have a laugh
no no no anon, everything in the past 100 eyarrs is le zoomers fault. we all have to hate people younger than us, don't you know?
obviously
I don't care about random chicks. The one I let go is married with kids now. I actually just woke up from a nightmare where she was married with kids and I was basically scrambling the whole time to try to get a good paying job (accounting, lawyer, etc.) and I flopped at them all. And in my dream I was wailing in pain in the darkness where I was remembering memories I had of her being warm to me and sharing her feelings. The dream felt long as shit too. Like if I was in the dream for a few days or weeks or something. The overall setting was depressing to all hell and I can't remember the whole thing exactly. Woke up, but that dream was heavily centered to reality because I flopped with jobs and stuck with low paying shit. Also lost technically over a mil at 24 cause I got in early in crypto. Then at early 25 I had like 230-250k or so only to end up broke again at 28. She lives in my head rent free and I look good, but I simply don't want anyone else. I can't fall for random people because my oneitit shit doesn't go away. I tried to brute force it 2 years ago with another chick and would hang out for months, but I just couldn't get myself to feel anything. Also I'm 5'6" which ruined my head years ago which is what lead to my downfall. Obsessed with LL surgeries now to become 5'10". My only goal now really is to get rich next bull cycle, get the LLs, recover for another 1-2 fricking years, and then jump on PEDs to play catch up, and then die of a heart attack from PED abuse
there are plenty of fish in the sea
99.9% of them have deadly amounts of mercury aka used up bawds that want to settle down after their prostitute phase and are liabilities too aka high divorce rates which = financial obliteration. Most are worse than worthless (hence liabilities) and the few that I've met that are warm/virgins/old fashioned and even had my personality.. well sadly I wasn't able to make a connection with them. I tried to force my brain to feel sexual attraction, but I couldn't. It's hyper rare for me to get a crush. I've had like 3 ever more whole life and really I only care about this one person. What's funny is I never approached chicks. They always approached me, but I've always struggled with opening up or just feeling anything for people in general. Chemistry is random and someone being a 10/10 just doesn't do it for me. I need to feel a spark. The chances of me catching feelings for anyone else are most likely 0. I just can't imagine it
You need to get off the internet for a while and get some therapy so someone can help process your brain right now. She isnt coming back by the way. Accept it.
>She isnt coming back by the way. Accept it.
No shit
>No shit
Then stop obsessing over her.
I can't. I don't choose these thoughts. My brain does so without my will to torture me. My brain is a homosexual
Stop identifying with your thoughts.
huh?
https://www.lawsonpsychology.com.au/2021/06/04/how-to-stop-overthinking-detached-mindfulness/
My problem isn't that I can't talk to girls, I am just rarely in situations where I meet girls I can actually sleep with or date these days.
When I am at parties, bars etc I have quite a bit of success, but these days I rarely have a good opportunities. I can literally just get eye contact with girls and wave them over to me and my friends table at a bar, or just tap the seat next to me to get a girl to sit down with me, which I have done several times.
Talking to girls is literally the hardest thing in the world. Borderline impossible.
>not having regular sex or a gf makes a man mad with the World. Blames everyone but himself and creates imaginary enemies
Is there a book that talk about this? Is a modern phenomenon. Men are so bitter nowadays and they look at the worst parental figures instead of figuring out what is wrong with them
>Is there a book that talk about this?
Mein Kampf
>That guy 'battling demons' in the gym
>he just cant talk to girls
>the guy finally confronts his demons and talks to some girl, then another one, then get a date, then start a relationship
>then he discovers the true nature of women
>now he is battling a real demon he sees after he returns from the gym
made me chuckle
>>then he discovers the true nature of women
nibba who the frick cares. you guys want to be "players" that routinely sleep with random women. a lot of us are just not people's people. the effort of interacting with another human is not worth the "fun" of sex. i just want a woman to have children with. simple as. if we dont vibe, we'll work on it.
Nibba, I just made le unfunny green text for our bros to smile. Me personally, I've been happily married for 11 years.
those curves are ridiculous
women are only good for reproduction, accounting, and homekeeping
I'm 32 and had sex with one (1) girl.
It's over.
Better than zero
when i grow up i want to be like you
honestly i was in a similar situation (but 24) and the whole reason i was barely getting any is because i cared too much. its why when youre already getting sex on a semi regular basis you get laid more because you when you interact with women you aren't bigging it up in your head too much because if they turn you down, who tf cares as youre already getting laid. the second you stop caring about getting rejected the better because you literally have nothing to lose and everything to gain so why just instantly put yourself down before youve even tried.
>its real that people come to IST because they think getting fit will get them laid
Kek
If you are 6'+ and Auschwitz mode or obese, getting fitter will result in women approaching you.
Otherwise, it's just cope
It can, anyone that says it doesn't atleast help doesn't lift or can't talk to girls either
You still need to approach but being IST and healthy makes you at least 2x more attractive
>Tfw I was a 1/10 before and now I'm a 2/10
Still an improvement
Idk I just want to be alone. Having gfs or sex is really nice. Its wonderfull having someone that listens and cares for you but after some time I get so tired of it. I focus a lot on myself and I have a lot of shit going on but I really dont think I will be able to talk romanticly with a female
Man I’m starting to believe that IST is a psyop to make you gay. No way around it
>Man I’m starting to believe that IST is a psyop to make you gay. No way around
That's the entire end game of the manosphere : chad, gay, or transition.
I don't go to a public gym and I don't talk to girls ever. The demons I'm battling are not only inside me but they are very real. I'm fighting against the whole fricking world, man. And I'm never giving up, no matter how hard it gets, because I have a dream!
>Women dont talk to me ever*
Ftfy
> women talk to me because of factors beyond my control
> this somehow means I understand anything
Normies
>What is the solution?
Become bluepilled unironically
wow IST's entire focus is women and being spilling spaghetti
Why else would men waste time lifting things up and putting them down for hours every week for years?
i like knowing that im strong and my strenght could be necessary if something happens. I really dont lift to get laid because i never had a problem getting laid
>my strenght could be necessary if something happens
I swear to god, you homosexuals all say this, but you cannot even run a mile in under 6 minutes.
i box since i was 16 and cardio was never a problem for me. With the years (im 32 now) i started focusing more on strenght just twice a week. Im one of those people who dont like bodybuilding overall, training two muscle groups per day is not for me.
Fair enough. Carry on then.
Resistance training prevents osteoporosis and dementia. What now dumb b***h?
Demoralizing crab bucket frickers like you should just leave.
The reason you want to prevent osteoporosis and dementia is so that you can remain attractive to women into older age.
Are you illiterate or just extremely stupid?
The morons are people looking ke you who never did any research about lifting except "get me the b***hes".
What are you on about, dumbass?
Post body now.
Keep denying the health benefits of lifting dumbass, keep doing it.
Why does it make you upset?
When did I deny the health benefits, you schizo?
You're just massively coping because you look awful.
I didn't say anything bad at all, my point is there's more to fitness than women. You're the one who got triggered and started shitting up the points I made because you're insecure.
Women get with lards and skellies all the time. I'm addressing people who think lifting is just for women, and act as if there's no better reason to do it.
People with that mentality should just quit instead of bullying the rest of us and telling us not to lift unless it's just for women.
Nobody said it's just for women, you schizo. You're putting that strawman there because you're upset that people want to be attractive to women.
In any case, you don't lift and you look like shit.
Read the thread and then you'll understand why I responded as I did, otherwise, good day
Okay, so you're just extremely stupid. Thanks for clarifying.
A good predictor of quality of life as a person ages? Ability to squat.
Guess what, lifting doesn't get you b***hes, if you're decent, attractive, and the right hight, women don't give a rat's ass.
So knowing this information, just quit lifting and stop shitting up fitness boards everywhere with nonsense.
Some of us actually care about our bodies, some of us just want to look like we're preparing to fight Frieza.
Why is it people who lift for women are so fricking insecure that they need to impose themselves on the rest of us?
>tranime
kys, homosexual.
It's known women don't give a shit about whether a dude lifts or not, it doesn't make a material difference on odds of getting women.
What now, will you quit lifting?
>Delusional cope by moron who looks like shit.
they do give a shit if you are out of shape or not, at least their vegana
Literally anything anybody does is ultimately and subconsciously for sex. Caring about your body is inherently subconsciously driven by a desire to attract a mate and you have to be moronic not to see that. All life is sex. Take the Robert California-pill.
>Plebbit show
>Plebbit evolution based sex obsession (forgetting the actual point is procreation)
>Plebbit reductionism
The Office is based. One of the last vestiges of aryan humor that haven't been cancelled because black people don't watch it and assume it's harmless white nerd comedy.
>black people don't watch it
Outside of Finnish media there's nothing that hasn't been seen
>Fighting reductionism with more reductionism
>anime poster
>zesty homie detected
>i like knowing that im strong and my strenght could be necessary if something happens
...because it is attractive to women. Women avoid lifting weights for the same exact reason.
to better restrain twinks during sex
This, you can choke them with your big ass bicep looking ripped and jacked watching the mirror
I'm convinced people like you lack sentience.
better to be fit then not
post a video of you running
Yeah, because I just take videos of myself when I run and have them on hand.
Fricking moron.
>Why else would men waste time lifting things up and putting them down for hours every week for years?
>Nobody said it's just for women, you schizo
I like looking aesthetic
Muscles feel nice
I can feel my own muscles
Imagine if in the Joker (2019) he was 350 pounds and in every scene where he is smoking a cigarette he is also eating fast food.
32 here and was in a similar situation. Post me too I feel so weird approaching women. When I did get a date I felt like I was raping them if I went in for a kiss or initiated any physical contact. Luckily I didn’t get the clot shot and my current gf messaged me because she didn’t have it either and didn’t want to date anyone with it. So my advice is get a nice browser based dating profile set up so you aren’t constantly checking your phone and then wait for a woman to fall into your spiders web. If you have good pictures (pictures of you doing actual activities do not upload selfies it makes it look like you have no friends) some woman will eventually message you. It’s how I’ve gotten all of my girlfriends post me too era.
>If you have good pictures
Black person YOU ARE ON IST. GET THE FRICK OFF YOU NORMAL gayOT.
>pictures of you doing actual activities do not upload selfies it makes it look like you have no friends
I have no friends that take pictures, and we don't do much actual activities
solution: get them, do them, take them
I wish I wasn't self-aware.
And I don't mean that good side of being self-aware, but literally crippling, and I mean crippling levels of self-awareness of every little miniscule detail. When I interact with someone I am aware of the speed I am talking, the posture I am holding, the tone I am expressing, the eye contact I am holding, the body language I am expressing, my brain is literally working on overdrive 110% every single time and as soon as I do something "wrong" in any of these things I feel like I did something terribly wrong. Every single second feels like an hour and I am constantly in fight or flight mode. My heart starts pumping so much that at some point I literally start to think that even the other person can hear it, especially indoors in a quiet setting.
Every social interaction is like Q&A conversation in a RPG game, but instead of 3 possible questions/answers and endless time to pick the correct response there's like 3 million possible questions/answers to choose from and a deadly awkwardness timer going on, where if you don't quickly pick a response in milliseconds and not picking the right response results in me dying right there on the spot.
I want to erase that, to just be able not to think about any of that and not act manually. To be able to just talk about the weather or something dumb like that without thinking much about it. At this rate I'll die in my 30s out of nothing but pure stress cortisol overload.
Thanks for reading my blog post
This is called autism. You are autistic.
Y-you are joking, right?
That's because what anon is describing isn't self-awareness at all, but sensory overload, which is a symptom of autism.
I meant fragmentation not sensory overload
Original anon here, I guess I can sort of relate to that when it comes to conversations, but not with anything else. I don't get sensory overload at concerts or the gym or at work or pretty much anywhere. Never had any kind of full on panic attack or anything like that, only after almost every conversation I basically feel "spent" and exhausted, especially if it's small talk.
NTA but I'd say that most autistic people are the exact opposite of being extremely self-aware of their actions
autism have a huge spectrum anon. for sure that poster fits
yah you're overthinking. you need more social interactions.
start asking 20 people a day for the time. interact with cashiers more. try doing more chat roulette stuff.
just hammer in more EXP. you'll level up and stop caring cause new "quests" will come
The most interesting concept in the Bible (in Genesis, particularly) to me is what you describe: the fact that Man knew sin and suffering when he became self-aware (conscious) - the product of eating the Forbidden Fruit. Self-consciousness is the root of neuroticism, but it also grants you a higher consciousness - a choice to act (or not) upon the fruit of your consciousness.
If you experience this kind of conscience, it means you are able to reach a deep level of awareness, not necessarily of yourself, although that is possible, but of the world at large.
You have more potential than you know, anon. Work hard and accomplish things that give you confidence and self-esteem. It's totally normal to be aware of your own mediocrity if you have accomplished nothing. Getting IST will already help you tremendously if you aren't.
Good luck Anon. You will make it through this. Always remember that you have just as much value as anyone else you meet, because in the finality of this material world, we all have a soul, and the only arbiter of its worth is God judging the actions you have chosen to take.
Godspeed.
This is called autism anon. Check yourself, you are in the spectrum
I am a lot like this anon.
Do you have practice conversations with people in your head, like imagining what they will say and then coming up with preplanned responses to them, and so on? I have found that it's rather helpful in improving my conversational ability, because with time, I have become better able to anticipate how certain people will react to the things I say, and so I am more adept at choosing the optimal thing to say at short notice.
Another thing I do is talk slowly, pause mid-sentence and look up in thought or stutter my words in order to gain more time to think up a response.
I have found that both of these things, along with practicing talking to strangers has greatly benefited me to interact with and talk to people, and I can actually enjoy being with people now.
Not that anon, but I do that and while my ability to talk to others has improved, I still don't really enjoy it because I always have to be mindful of their body language to ensure I am not going on monologues and boring them with things they are not interested.
>Do you have practice conversations with people in your head
Yeah, but I try to avoid doing that because in most cases it makes the end conversation worse not better. I sort of have enough questions to keep the conversation going yes, but the conversation turns more into some sort of weird interview instead of an actual conversation, it doesn't flow right.
>Another thing I do is talk slowly, pause mid-sentence
This thing is the worst to me, how is that helpful to you? It only makes me even more anxious like I said with the deadly awkwardness timer going on if I don't pick a response quickly enough.
The only thing which sort of helps to me is to fully focus on the other person and try to give them full attention and not to think about myself, but that's hard as well. My brain is still working in 110% overdrive in most conversations because of it it's incredibly draining
>the conversation turns more into some sort of weird interview
To avoid this, I try to give my perspective - either on their answer or to the question itself - in between asking questions, and I've found this allows things to flow better, and also build rapport with people. It also gives them a chance to ask their own questions, or to further elaborate on their opinions. Hope this helps you.
>how is that helpful to you?
I think it might be that I'm then confronting my anxiety head-on, and so after doing it enough times and having the other person be respectful enough to let me finish speaking, it helped me to get over that anxiety. You also realize that talking fast and stilted is actually far worse than being a bit slow.
One other thing I do is try to channel people who are good conversationalists, and almost imagine that I am them when I am talking.
Keep at it anon. 6 years ago, I could not keep a conversation for longer than 30 seconds. I forced myself to practice a lot, and I did get really down on myself when I felt like things went poorly. As you build confidence (i.e. having a better understanding of how situations will develop), it starts to feel better. Find the advice that works for you (not necessarily mine by the sounds of it) and try to gradually implement it.
Ok makes sense.
I can keep a conversation actually even if my brain is working in overdrive, but honestly it all feels like I'm putting on a mask, like I'm playing pretend, especially for small talk. I know that I should expand on what the other person replies etc, but it feels more like I'm manually following some imaginary conversation chart instead of actually having a conversation. I guess I have just have to do it as much as possible, I only worry that I'll only get very good at this conversation algorithm following mask-on pretend instead of actually having a conversation.
I think it's not terrible to develop the mask-on style to the point where you can talk to various people for extended periods of time, as this will put your foot in the door to develop more natural conversation skills.
A lot of building conversational skills if you're autistic is actively focusing on making the conversation more natural, and as long as you can maintain conversations, you will have many opportunities to practice this skill.
Also, it is good to talk to people who are good conversationalists, as their speech traits should rub off on you (this is called convergence).
Wasted
You're misconstruing self awareness vs self conciousness
please google the difference
Seems you're perfectly right here, I'm definitely self conscious, although it just seems like a more narrow term than self-aware. I am self conscious though, neurotic and obviously over analyze everything to the smallest detail again and again
social anxiety is a hell of a drug
go get some liquor and stop giving a frick
I actually find women to be more pleasant to interact with than men, but the first and last time I ever attempted to make a move with a girl was in 2009.
>*waits 3 days to text her to make it seem like she hasn't preoccupied my every thought since we met*
>"Hello.This is anon. 🙂 I was wondering if you'd like to go for a drive this weekend, maybe to the beach?"
>"who is this?"
>takemeout.wav
bruh its 2023
Dude , I've been called good looking by over 100 different people in my life, am ripped, have dedicated hobbies, religious, tall, and have strong social skills, but I've been struggling to talk to girls the past couple years(girls that I like). I used to get a lot of girls in college but something changed after I feel into a psychotic depression, so give me tips pls any coaches to help with this?
Go to a real therapist and stop shitting this place up
QQ
let me guess, when the pandemic hit you got the depression and after the pandemic you are lacking social skills
No I had depression before the pandemic, but he's after a few years. My social skills were wack for some reason not even kidding. Like I regressed
It's not that I can't talk to girls at the gym.
It's that my motivation to do so has caught up with reality.
>that guy battling sneed
>>That guy 'battling demons' in the gym
>>he just cant talk to girls
get on my level you delusional gayots. im denji and im training for power. (t.28 khv)
Lifting for cartoons just makes you more of a creepy loser, irreparably so in fact.
> Creepy loser
> Shakes in my boots like a mid-2000s middle school tween.
If posturing online helps you cope with your pathetic position in life then I am not interfering. But you do know that you are harmless irl.
There's no posturing, you are behaving like child
>you are behaving like child
>t. adult obsessed with children's cartoons
Actively insulting people without provocation, contributing to conversation, or making rational points.
> Children like it
Children like a lot of things. If your goal is to define yourself opposite to children, you're just left with sex and finances, the end game of which is, to allow children to like the things they like, before they become jaded examples like you.
im wearing a shark. and jesus is spotting my lifts. stay mad.
>the demons win
lol. wow.
>wants attention
>wears short shorts
this guy is gay right?
He got the richgay Apple headphones. He can pull any girl he wants with those
>im wearing a shark. and jesus is spotting my lifts. stay mad.
>tfw my ex gf is still obsessed with me after a year
>I know I’m capable of making a girl happy
>fail to get a new gf
>thinking of getting ex back because of that.
What do? The problem is that I loved her a lot
>>fail to get a new gf
It's time to settle. Phone her up king.
She texted me to call her. I’m ghosting her since Jan 23 but she is persistent af. What are the chances she didn’t get fricked?
>What are the chances she didn’t get fricked?
About 0.5-1%. But you've got no better options at this point. Time to man up.
We are meeting tomorrow for lunch wish me luck
had my ex bpd gf blocked and she called me from her mothers phone today. She told me that she ‘can’t get over me’ and that she wants to meet.
I broke up with her back in October because she wanted to invite a male friend who was in her uni at her house (other people were invited aswell) I told her no and that she is disrespectful for asking and i blocked her
She started sending me emails everyday telling me that im the worse person and the most toxic she ever met. Long story short she came back in town 2 weeks ago, we met for 15 mins because i was a beta and i agreed to see her but i didn't frick her. She left my car crying because i didn't hug her.
I’m thinking of giving in and have sex with her because I’m dry since October 2022,but I don’t know bros.
She called me 5 times after that call in the morning and I told her to shut the frick up. she came outside my house and i sat in her car for 10 mins and she tried to touch me and have sex with me. I told her that i don't want her, and she started laughing at me and she said she doesn't believe me. I was strong af for 2 weeks ignoring her but she won't stop, she is leaving in two days again but will be 3 months for summer here
Should i go or ghost? she is coming here in 30 mins. is it too much of a risk?
Why don't you save us all the trouble and just stick your dick in a hornet's nest instead? Same result.
Why are you so cruel
holy shit your a homosexual
why dude, what would you have done
frick her and string her along play games with her and definately not write a book report for IST detailing why you broke it off with some bawd cause you're afraid of other dudes at a gathering
>afraid of other dudes at a gathering
this wasn't the only reason i broke it off with her. when we first got together for the 2nd time after a month or so she was texting with a guy she talked before me while i was at a 12h shift. on other occasion she would talk with her ex bf (they didn't frick but still)
She told me that i broke things for nothing and that she wanted to live the rest of her life with me and she still can't get over me and doesn't believe me that i dont want her. i rejected her so many times and she still persists.
use her holes then you homosexual what the frick is wrong with you? you can literally use this girl as a Fleshlight she'll do whatever you want you don't have to be faithful, nice or anything stop being a b***h
>what the frick is wrong with you
i low key have a crush on her, she is wild
>you can Fleshlight her
how do you know that if i go back she will stop being obsessed? also what if she fricked other guys all those months? its easier to talk if you are not in my position
>stop being a b***h
agreed with this
>i low key have a crush on her
you have to realize all those are just chemicals your brain uses to signal things start having a crush on every cute girl you talk to if you get disappointed by one theres millions more
don't listen to this incel, he is trying to get you trapped by getting her pregnant
bro chill, he is dry and he has free pussy. why in the hell would he deny it? this guy here
is the definition of beta bux, listen to him if you want but remember this thread because your life depends on it.
low t gays who get defensive probably pay for girls onlyfans too both of you post body now otherwise get the frick outta here
This, I will frick the shit out of her. She is coming back in town in June until august. If she asked about other girls what do I say? I don’t want her turned off because I’m dry. Should I fap 2 days before she comes? I’m nofap day 50
>other girls
be vague no straight answers
>no fap
who cares you aren't there to get her off frick her and cum in 2 minutes whatever you aren'tdoing this for her its for you anon
>If she asked about other girls what do I say
She doesn't mind you not being single and loyal to her?
Wtf has this world turned into...
>Wtf has this world turned into...
i don't get why you act like thats a surprise those kinda girls are made to be used and when you do find a good with with 0 to low bodycount you wrap them up but if you are trying this past 22 or 23 and want your peers you are fricked its not gonna happen then you need to creep on college age girls
You wanna have your cake and eat it too.
And I've heard very few success stories of manprostitutes marrying virgins, even if they manage to land one it just doesn't last. Cope or not?
big cope
Don't use anyone as a fleshlight, but in todays world of course it makes you "alpha" to have a high bodycount and frick girls your not even interested in. In the past you would be called a prostitutemaker but you'll just hurl insults at me anyway.
Just a reminder there is also the alternative of not thinking with your wiener and waiting till you find someone worthwile.
just dont fricking move in together or do any dumb commitment shit like that holy frick my ex was like that and she attacked me every day when I had enough and wanted to break off
i might be autistic or something but i only lift because i think it's fun and getting bigger muscles is cool
strength is also cool but chasing numbers is a boring and maddening process
i literally just go unga bunga on a barbell and enjoy the inevitable results
wtf do people mean when they talk about "fight my demons" and "get revenge on my ex" and all that bullshit? it literally makes zero sense to me
if that's you, go seek professional help, stop being a moron gymcel
the gym counter receptionist keeps waving at me and looks annoyed when I don't talk to her.
Fricktard
>be me about to hit a full year of consistent training. Thought I was making decent progress as the months rolled on
>lying in bed post coitus with girl I only very recently met
>she's very genuine and
>talking about random shit
>mention something about working out or training
>'Oh you go to the gym?'
oof
Grim
I’ve never really had a woman show interest in me before, I’m age 20 at 5’7. Is this bad? Like how do people even get into relationships or have sex? Dating apps didn’t work for me but I don’t think I’m ugly, 5/10 face
You have to put continuous active effort into trying if you want anything to happen, especially as a 5/10 5'7 dude. If you just wait for things to "happen" you'll die as a virgin
I do try reaching out but people already have friend groups now and don’t really want to meet people outside of those groups. I’ve joined clubs and stuff but it just seems impossible to actually meet new people
Well tough luck, as a short average looking guy you have to try and fail and try and fail for an almost irrational amount if you want things to happen. People won't magically automatically accept you wherever you go, girls won't magically be madly in love with you when you enter a room, you have to continously put effort everywhere to actually get a chance anywhere.
It is what it is, but you do have a chance. You have no chance though if you stop trying after failing.
>I’ve never really had a woman show interest in me before, I’m age 20 at 5’7. Is this bad? Like how do people even get into relationships or have sex? Dating apps didn’t work for me but I don’t think I’m ugly, 5/10 face
You have to put in work, but if you fail, don't let normies blame you, they are incapable of empathy
I’m stuck in a position of not really having any form of personality or social skills to make connections, but needing people to develop a personality and social skills idk how to break this cycle
The question isn't personality it's money. Go out and pay to be present somewhere all the time, you have to break the cycle on your own
>The question isn't personality it's money
bullshit. he can literally be a millionaire and a friendless kissless virgin as well
Money to spend on activities to be around other people and talk to them.
Jesus Christ, there's tons of short frickers with friends.
start small, fail, do it again, fail, do it again, succeed, make bigger step here, fail, do it again, fail, do it again etc
Bro it’s over
Why
I used to get attention from girls all the time when I was younger and still do but I’m socially moronic and don’t know what to do with it
Still a virgin, turned 27 3 weeks ago
I lost my virginity when I was 27, it's only over if you imprint the loser narrative into yourself too deeply.
Even if you do lose your virginity at age 27 you’re still a loser, most have done it by 16-18, anything over that is weird
lost it at 19, is it over?
What the frick is "battling demons" even supposed to mean
basically having mental problems and instead of going to therapy you just rip your muscle fibers with heavy weights instead
life a method of self-harm, just through muscle fiber breaking instead of skin cutting
zoomers are all le sad and depressed
>demons
as if demons are motivation enough:
>if i don't make this last rep Gojo sensei will be disappointed
in me.
>that one guy working out alone
>that guy who's already a demon
>sex obsessed hookup culture creeping into everything so that you can't even work out or enjoy your hobbies without people debating over whether doing so will help you pick up chicks better
FRICK
OFF
HEAR HEAR
I cope by visiting this board less.
I just don't care, don't understand why everyone cares so much about sex.
Just go to Thailand and let a transvestite frick you in the ass, ffs.
we just call em demons because the other thing would be antisemantic
Funny how antisemitic and antisemantic basically mean the same thing
STAHHHHHP
i fight demons when waking up in the middle of the night sometimes via sleep paralysis
this is funny because i say im 'battling demons' every once in a while in the gym but my gym partner is a woman sooo
100% of the female attention I get comes from slightly chubby/chubby cute chicks. Not that I'm complaining, I'll take what I can get. But every chubby girl I've dated just gets bigger over time.
As a demon battler talking to girls didn't solve my problems.
just trying not to commit suicide man
Do a flip.