>The Aesthetic 4

>The Aesthetic 4

Discuss.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it’s OHP, weighted dips, weighted pull ups and trap bar deadlifts

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      More like:
      Deadlift
      OHP
      Pullups
      Dips

      replace squats with deadlifts

      >inclined bench
      What the fuck
      >no OHP
      >no Deadlift
      Eternal DYELs.

      Deadlifts don't do shit for aesthetics you fucking tards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are the retard here. Deads have done so much for my hamstrings and back you wouldnt believe. If you wanna go ottermode compound excersises arent optimal no, but if you actually want some size, they are nescessary.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >hamstrings
          Nice "aesthetics" bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Large hamstrings are required for an aesthetic body.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >RDLs don’t do shit
        ok

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        bump

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        posture contributes towards aesthetics massively which dl rdl are superb for

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    More like:
    Deadlift
    OHP
    Pullups
    Dips

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    replace squats with deadlifts

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You’re going to get better leg development with skwats

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >no ass
    >no rear delts

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >squats
      >aesthetic
      i mean the rest were fine, but god damn man no one thinks you having an ass and legs like a 300lb african woman is attractive.

      FIGHT

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, once i hit 2pl8 squat 15 years ago it was enough. no reason to keep lifting just to have to buy larger pants because you purposefully want to make your ass larger.
        fucking gays.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pull-ups do the rear delts

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not to a great degree. I’m not that anon, but any real shoulder aesthetic workout needs all three heads to be directly hit; and it’s very healthy for shoulder stability in general. I dislocated my right shoulder two weeks ago but having developed rear delts probably saved me from more extensive damage.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Squats hit ass enough unless you’re a total fag

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Women love ass just as much as men

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hip thrusts hit glutes better as well as the groin adductors. Having strong glutes/groin helps prevent leg muscle imbalances.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >squats
    >aesthetic
    i mean the rest were fine, but god damn man no one thinks you having an ass and legs like a 300lb african woman is attractive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. Change it to the aesthetic 6 and swap incline bench for flat bench. And don't be one of those retards who thinks building the lower pecs "ruins the aesthetics of the chest". It doesn't. It's what MAKES the chest aesthetic. So, to fix your list:
      >Flat bench
      >Lateral raises
      >Pull ups/chin ups
      >Hanging leg raises
      >Squats
      >Calf raises
      My list is better than anyone else's and whatever anyone else comes up with is shit compared to mine. I win.

      Nah, once i hit 2pl8 squat 15 years ago it was enough. no reason to keep lifting just to have to buy larger pants because you purposefully want to make your ass larger.
      fucking gays.

      Wrong. Women like a nice ass on a man. A real straight man works his ass, anon, and he works it specifically for women. Nothing could be straighter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just admit you're a fag and are working out your ass to signal to other fags.
        >women like a nice ass on a man
        yeah a nice, small ass defined ass.
        Which you can get from body weight squats. I'm 14% body fat and wear size 34 relaxed fit pants to accommodate my ass and i only do 2pl8 squat. You don't need any more than that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          "Conveniently, nobody needs to be any bigger than I currently am."
          Rope yourself copeboy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          some people aren't lifting for the sole reason of getting the highest % chance to get some pussy

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Man, you're really hung about this whole ass thing, huh? Sounds like you're making an excuse because you CAN'T grow a nice, juicy ass. Oh well, cope harder.

          completely false (both your claims). stop watching so much yt fitness.

          Retard, all it's doing is working your lower back. You know, the place that has the LEAST to see. Again, this thread is about aesthetics. Deadlifts aren't doing anything for aesthetics. Doing pull ups/chin ups is the better alternative. You don't know anything. Besides, you're only mad because I excluded a lift that you like. Get over it, pussy. Make your own fucking list.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright buddy, good luck with your fluff and pump pussy raises. Muh all three heads. Have fun looking the same in five years (see: a twink) because you opted for the significantly easier, lighter movements. I'm sure lifting hundreds of pounds is adding absolutely no lean mass to your body except to your lower back, but raising a 20 lb dumbbell to shoulder level is superior for muh aesthetics. fkn lol.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >pullups
              >easier
              >lighter movement
              pretty big cope there guy, considering everyone does deadlifts exactly for the reason that it's easy and it's big numbers literally day one of lifting.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have problems with reading comprehension? When I say easier, I mean that a "heavy" deadlift takes significantly more effort to perform than a proportionally "heavy" chin up. You took my comment out of context and started talking about some hypothetical novice ego lifter.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, but it's somehow perfectly fine for you to compare deadlifts with lateral raises as your argument for deadlifts being better for aesthetics, instead of comparing deadlifts with pull ups, like you should have? Nice hypocrisy, gay.

                Calls the other guy mad whenever you lose an argument. Bahaha.

                Dude, you're literally whining because I said deadlifts aren't good for aesthetics, and you just won't let it go. You're in no position to mock anyone and are in every position to be mocked. Yeah, dude, keep working those muscles that no people are ever gonna see.

                >RDLs don’t do shit
                ok

                For aesthetics specifically, they don't. They're only working your hamstrings, glutes, and lower back, and no one is going to be looking at those parts of your body.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no one is going to be looking at those parts of your body
                actually delusional. post legs

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody is whining or mad. Just because someone corrects your false statements does not mean they are whining. It is pretty evident reading through your posts that you are in fact the one whining.
                As far as the comparison with the lateral raises, what I said applies equally to pull ups. The fact that you think a deadlift only works your lower back is retarded. I see you now have added hamstrings and glutes, when you said before "all its doing is working your lower back" - that is some cute backpedalling. Even that is false... If you DL anything over 3 plates (which you clearly do not) you would know it trains your entire posterior chain - + lats, upper back and traps. If your definition of an aesthetic back (since your so obsessed with aesthetics) is wide lats and nothing else then have fun with your pull ups. You will look like a piece of paper irl - a jeremy ethier looking dyel. Your line of argument that by training pull up you are training muscles that 'people will see' and that by training the deadlift you are 'training muscles no people are ever going to see' is retarded. You are retarded.
                I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore - its obvious your only going to bitch about the fact that i'm 'whining' or 'indignant'. I just hope you have the common sense to realize how stupid you sound.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Jesus Christ, kid, stop being so fucking indignant just because I said something negative about your shitty favourite exercise. It's not the end of the world sweetheart. Stop freaking out over nothing. Cry harder, pussy.

              >a nice juicy ass
              if you're actually lifting it wouldn't be juicy, it would be as hard as a rock.
              god damn newfag.

              Not what the word juicy means. It can be hard and juicy at the same time. Also, not a newfag. I guarantee I've been here longer than you. Been coming to IST since 2007, buddy. Also, why are you so hung up about what I said? Why does it bother you so much? Why is this the hill you're choosing to die on? It's just not worth it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Calls the other guy mad whenever you lose an argument. Bahaha.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              you're just regurgitating what you heard from Rippetoe

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >a nice juicy ass
            if you're actually lifting it wouldn't be juicy, it would be as hard as a rock.
            god damn newfag.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cope, legslet and asslet

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron gay, imagine not training 60% of your bodies total muscle because you think its womanly

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        imagine training your body specifically so a man can top you, ya fucking gay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          weak glutes like yours will easily be parted by a rapist, Im borderline unrapeable with my 4pl8 squat you doublegay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. posteriorcel

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really need to be incorporating my pull-ups into my workouts. Especially since I suck at them.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    all minimalist exercise selection is antithetical to aesthetics

    you've got a knee flexion in there, but no hip hinge, why? just to make it le 4

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >squats aren’t a hip hinge movement
      bruh

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean no hip hinge? Use real kinesiological terms and explain to me how the squat doesn't use the hip in the exact same way.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        a back barbell squat has a hip hinging component, but it is more of a knee flection
        a rdl is a pure hip hinge while a front squat would be the closest to pure knee flexion

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fair enough, but that's still plenty of hip hinge

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You just need glutes, shoulders, lats, bis, and pecs. That’s why it’s the aesthetic 4, not the powerlifting 4.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mine would be:
    -Neck bridge pullover
    -Press behind the neck
    -Rack chins
    -Bulgarian split squats (specifically drop sets)

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >inclined bench
    What the fuck
    >no OHP
    >no Deadlift
    Eternal DYELs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love my ohp cause vertical autism but no lift is necessary, esp not ohp

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's about aesthetics. Deadlifting isn't gonna do much for aesthetics, and you don't need to OHP when lateral raises are better for building shoulders and can hit all three heads.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        completely false (both your claims). stop watching so much yt fitness.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You do need OHP, actually. You’ll get better development with OHP and lateral raises than with just lateral raises.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          aren't upright rows much better?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Upright rows are more likely to fuck up your shoulders.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lots of people are beginning to disagree (Mike Israetel, Bald Omniman, Geoff, Delavier, etc.)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Upright rows pressured my anterior front delts way more than ohp, benching, or dips ever did. I don’t see any to stress it out even more.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You could probably do either one. OHP or upright rows.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >squats
    Unironically should be replaced by calf raises. That is if you actually care about aesthetics, not approval of powershitters.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah having no quads and developed calves is the most aesthetic look, barbell lifts are just for powershitting ah yes you're not retarded at all

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't do pull up without feeling like I exclusively hit my biceps

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      how are you doing pullups (not chinups with a reverse grip) and hitting your biceps?

      Are you just doing some weird T-Rex pullup where you keep your arms tucked against your body and lift yourself purely with a arm curling motion?

      because that sounds hilarious and you should absolutely take video and post it here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically use straps so your back will do all the work

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lat pulldown at sets of 12 and assisted pullups at sets of 10, relatively slow and controlled, is really helping me to develop the mind-muscle connection with lats. Neutral grip is best for it too.

      I actually tend to use my pecs when doing traditional pullups because I tend to squeeze inwards rather than pull down, and I was up to 4x8 pull ups

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude, I know other people have given their well thought advices, but here is the truth of the matter. Don't worry about it. This whole mind-muscle connection, this whole feeling is overrated. You may not feel it yet, but you are indeed using your back, for you would not be able to curl your bodyweight; you can even try and see for yourself whether you could or not.
      Futhermore, this feeling improves with experience in the lift and by increasing the load you are moving. Your back is strong as fuck. It won't feel much strain until you add a plate to your pull ups.
      To summarize it all: don't worry; keep doing it and inscrease the wheights.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    redpill me on incline bench vs flat bench

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I get DOMS in my upper chest when I do incline which I like.
      3x10 flat + 3x10 incline has practically given me breasts

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Agree with everything except squats. I always manage to hurt my back the moment i go heavy on squats, no matter how slow I progress towards it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >weak core and lower back
      >blames the lift

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Men of noble blood like myself didn't evolve to carry things on their backs. Stay mad, lowlife.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          garden gnome-like thinking right there, your kind were weak and cowardly

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then why are you here? Lifting is for peasants. Getting obese and syphilis is for the royals

            Look at the plebeians yap, never ceases to be funny.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then why are you here? Lifting is for peasants. Getting obese and syphilis is for the royals

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't have issues doing ab work and my deadlift is my best lift, so it can't be either of those things.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nothing to discuss here frend, you got it correctly first try, would and some kind of CURLS tho.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    swap lateral raises for OHP and pullups for chinups and sure
    you will have underdeveloped traps and biceps if all you do is these 4 and those 2 are some of the most important muscles for aesthetics

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Ascetic 4

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >does nothing

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate lateral raises. Doing them more because my shoulders suck. Doing them 6 days per week; 35s x8 day 1, 30s x10 day 2, 25s x12 day 3, repeat
    Also on dumbbell shoulder press I swear I don’t feel anything unless I’m doing at least 12 reps

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lateral raises will become your friend when you realize they make your side delts pop/widen. I like to superset them with rear delt flys.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lat raises>OHP

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are squats there? you could toss in upright rows or maybe LTEs for tris. should also be chinups for your bis not gay 'proper' pullups

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should be front squat instead

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > aesthetics
    > no arm isolation
    > no ab isolation
    > no pec isolation
    > shoulders? Only isolation!

    Genius!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arms get done from pullups and bench. Pecs get done by bench.
      If you're doing delts with isolation, what's the point of also doing them with a compound?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >arms get done by pullups

        no. no they don't. you could at least say chinups as that actually hits bicep more.

        >arms get done by bench

        tricep maybe, rest no.

        >delts with isolation, why compound?

        compound shoulder exercises don't hit the side delts or even rear delts very well; most are front delt oriented. this is why most fitness people recommend lateral raises in the first place.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lateral raises

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