>be me, late 30s
>No hair loss or thinning up to this point, figure I am in the clear
>Also have taken creatine for well over a decade
>Get prescribed enclo+an AI by a quack for low (but not out of range) test levels last summer
>test increases but I see numerous sides including rapid hair loss/thinning
>panic and hop off the meds after a couple of months. Hair loss continues. Whenever I wash my hair, I catch stray hairs in my mouths, its gross. See hairs floating down in front of my line of sight every day at work.
>See the "creatine causes hair loss" guy posts here frequently
>Figured it couldn't hurt, so I stop taking creatine.
>One month later, I don't see hair falling off my head anymore and don't have hair flying in my mouth in the shower anymore.
Huh, guess that guy was right.
It accelerated my shedding. I was also under a lot of stress at the time and had just passed 30, but it seemed too significant to be coincidental.
I also underwent a LOT of stress the second half of last year that's mostly subsided so I'm not ruling that out as a factor either. Once I'm fully convinced that my shedding has stopped, I might pick up creatine again and see what happens.
Here’s the thing. It doesn’t directly cause hair loss. But it’s side effect of DHT does have varying effects depending on the person. Some experience issues and others don’t. It’s not clear cut, so while you’re right it does do this to people not everyone experiences it
I had the exact opposite effect. Occasional creatine supplementation personally made me shed less hair, and made my hair feel fuller than before. I don't know why, and can't possibly imagine what the explanation could be. This is not advice, and I'm not a doctor.
>taking an oral steroid
>must be the creameme making my hair fall out!!
I'd be worried about your liver because your 'doctor' sure isn't. Creatine was anyways a schizo meme.
Yeah, I had eye issues, headaches and even an E2 crash that left me feeling like I was going to die for a week under the meds I was prescribed. When I asked here about the meds/dosages the response was a pretty universal "Is your doctor trying to kill you?"
A lot of bleeding heart creatine shills deny this and many newbies fall for it.
Story as old as father time himself.
Not risking creatine.
Not worth it to lose hair to get +15% strength and volume or whatever.
>+15% strength
More lik 5% and a bloat
Not even strength. It just lets you grind out an extra rep or two each set, which does result in increased strength but too many people seem to think creatine itself makes you stronger.
This. I went off creatine 3 years ago and saw no difference in performance or appearance, haven't looked back.
Tbf I did notice some extra strength. But is it real? Could be placebo for all I care, it's not a game changer
I'm on my second day of creatine monohydrate, if it matters at all, and today noticed hair on my palm as I was showering. WTF man. Believe me when I say I've never, ever, ever seen that shit in my life. Thinking about stopping or maybe getting a half dose? Has any of you done that? Like less than 3g?
It's over.
yes, that's why I'll never listen to any 'trust me bro the science says it's free gains' bullshit ever again.
Not to discount the OP, but he did mention he was taking creatine for a decade with no noticeable loss. Also, something they consider is that the vast majority of men experience some sort of hair loss by the time they’re 40 not saying the creatine doesn’t have anything to do with it, but there’s just as good of a chance That your testosterone medication jumpstarted it and you are paying more attention to it than you used to
You get enough creatine from eating a proper diet. Having more than needed =/= better.
This is what these DYEL newbies don't want to understand.
You get enough testosterone from eating a proper diet. Having more than needed =/= better. This is what these DYEL newbies don't want to understand.
>internet fake natty grifter #516344 selling you snake oil
Ah, just like Greg Douchette, Nippard, Derek and the rest of the bunch.
I've been eating a shitload of meat my whole life. Never had hair loss issues. Two days of creatine I'm seeing hair in the shower.
doesn't this shit also ruin your skin? IIRC someone said it made you break out and dried out your skin fiercely
If people eat meat all the time without hairloss, and meat is high in creatine, is it really the creatine that makes people lose hair when they are on creatine, or is it something else somehow? Maybe somewhere along the way the scientists overlooked some major mistake and fricked up the correlation and causation?
>meat from creatine is the same as chemically producted creatine monohydrate
>there's no difference in taking in a normal dose of creatine from meat and a pure extract that's 500% of your daily norm
Is it possibly worth it to go fully 100% vegan (no meat milk fish eggs cheese honey), or at least mostly vegetarian (same as vegan but you can at least have cheese milk eggs) to avoid all dietary creatine intake, but then intentionally get the creatine by occasional supplementation (such as one normal serving/scoop once a week, instead of every single day?)
>I had the exact opposite effect. Occasional creatine supplementation personally made me shed less hair, and made my hair feel fuller than before. I don't know why, and can't possibly imagine what the explanation could be. This is not advice, and I'm not a doctor.
Because I'm a vegan, and I was getting hair loss, and doing 1 scoop of creatine once a week made my hairloss get much less.
Any other vegans or vegetarians try occasional creatine supplementation before and get similar results?
Again, This is not advice, and I'm not a doctor. Don't do anything without asking your doctor first.
>Because I'm a vegan, and I was getting hair loss
yeah, because intentionally avoiding animal food is moronicly bad for health.
>and doing 1 scoop of creatine once a week made my hairloss get much less.
wow, a nutrient from animal food gave health benefits? who would've guessed?
next you're gonna tell me that glycine, taurine, carnosine (beta-alanine), carnitine, etc, also have health benefits???
>Again, This is not advice, and I'm not a doctor. Don't do anything without asking your doctor first.
doctors get pretty much no education on nutrition. and even dieticians don't know shit about veganism, carnivore, ketogenic, etc, beyond "uhh, take some B12 if you're vegan".
>500%
lmao no, just a couple of steaks worth of creatine. Even loading is like 20g and not everyone does that
>Maybe somewhere along the way the scientists overlooked some major mistake and fricked up the correlation and causation?
there's not a single study correlating creatine to hairloss. it's a complete meme.
>If people eat meat all the time without hairloss
Why did you take creatine for your entire 30s?
I mean...why not? It's been promoted as "the one supplement that actually works" for a long time now.
>Late 30s
>Everyone sees his hairloss but him
>Nobody comments because how rude
>Starts taking creatine
>Hairloss progresses naturally
>Takes notice
>Ahhhh the creatine did this!
>Stops creatine
>Now my hairloss will sto-ACK!
>Stops creatine
>Now my hairloss will stop
Yeah, many such cases. I wish it wasn't the case, I feel so much better on creatine but the hair shedding on shower is real bro
>look at me, I'm replying to every post
fricking have a nice day
the creatine makes you bald homosexual still hasn't pisted body so you know he's not white and dyel