This. Haven't done the back pack method but I should probably start. Seen alot of progress in my chest in a short amount of time just from push ups and dips
It is but it's not enough stimuli if you want to get big. Sure you will gain some muscle but you won't look like you lift. Literally look at any football player. They are fit but with barely any muscle.
Had this problem when I started using the machine. I solved this by adjusting the seat a bit higher so my elbows are a bit tucked in. You'll have to adjust the seat a few times to find your groove depending your build/frame.
Something about these machines just doesn't work for my body. I can bench 180lbs with good form for 5-8ish reps, but if I load 90lbs onto this fricker I can hardly move it. I've tried lowering and raising the chair, a closer or wider grip... it just doesn't work.
the weight at the bottom of the pulley does not translate the the weight of barbells or dumbells in a comparable exercise.
The actual resistance varies pretty greatly between types of machines, and even between identical machines depending on the state of the components.
dont try to apply machine numbers to free weights and vice versa
>can do 4x10 2.5-3pl8 on the plate loaded version of this >can only do 1.5pl8 bench because of shaking and form issues
Did I neglect my stabilizing muscles? Is it over bros?
For some reason my forearm's all fricked up so barbells hurt, I'm so glad dumbbells exist so I can work out without feeling agonizing pain every time I curl.
barbell flys have been scientifically proven to induce irrythmic dystrophy of the quadlaterial anterior pectoral muscle chain under equilaterial tension loads in several studies. It can lead to his pic.
I’m hyper mobile so I used to go all the way down to the floor with mine. Look what it’s done to my rib cage… I’m still recovering three years later from doing it with 60s.
DB is for homosexuals who can't into proper technique (and girls but they are also homosexuals because they like men other than lesbians who are the definition of a homosexual)
well its got its pros and cons, db gets better results for me than barbell ever did, eventually adding to barbell is hard in its own way, for instance I was stuck at 185 3x5 for several weeks before I started training with dbs, the thing is with dumbells you can also overload easier by squeezing out an extra rep every workout, so for instance you may be doing 70s but the first set you can do 11 reps the next time, but the second and third set are still 10 if that makes sense, it makes it easier to see tangible though less impactful gains, but I guess I got over training merely for strength I want to look and feel better and dbs are better suited for that anyway
No offence this makes little sense. Barbell has more loading potential than dumbbell, that's the main advantage. You can't overload easier it's just less fatiguing since you're not pushing as heavy loads. It just sounds like you dont have good programming for increasing your bench press and just like doing DB more
2 years ago
Anonymous
you overload dbs by increasing the total rep ranges, bb by weight if that makes sense, if youre going to increase reps on bb you would db for superior rom and less chance of injury, make sense?
2 years ago
Anonymous
No it doesn't make sense because you can do progressive overload on both exercises by increasing weight or reps. The ROM on DB is superior though yeah, I do both with DB an an accessory movement
2 years ago
Anonymous
was the guy that originally replied, still making my own program, so many possibilities. give bench progression advice pls.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Depends what your goals are? Are you trying to get better at heavy singles or progressing in higher rep ranges (say 5-7)? I would do variations of bench and be benching at least 3x a week if you want to get your bench up. Doing a pause day, tempo bench, or exercises like the Larsen press etc can all help increase your BB bench. Your chest is a smaller muscle and recovers quicker and can handle more volume on BB movements than your legs or back
2 years ago
Anonymous
I want to look like a dorito shaped man and bench more than i currently do. I do bench 2/3 days a weeks 5 Sets, 6-8 reps do a pyramid most times.
Seen a bunch on doing a heavy day and a dynamic day, also seen a hypertrophy day a power day and a strength day. There's all sorts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>literally repeating Mark Rippetoe talking points verbatim
Stop giving advice.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not mark rippetoe talking points moron, I don't like rippetoe. You can load BB movements more than DB movements, that's just a fact
>bb bench 185 for 3x5 >db bench 140 for 3x10
what do you think would have happened if you had done bb bench, but with 140lbs for sets of 3x10, do you think you could have squeezed out an extra rep?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I actually did do 1pl8 for reps but I found when I used bb the weight was significantly less due to I guess some lacking stabilizer muscles, like I had trouble with 50s when I started
>zoomer thinking he's tough shit incline pressing the 80s >I setup shop next to him and shoulder press the same weight and deathstare him when I'm done
Zoomers are such pussies
Just do push ups with weights in a backpack. You don't even need a bench.
post body I bet you look great
This. I do this. I save so much money not going to the gym this shit is off the hook
Even better just do dips with a weight between your legs
>With weight between your legs
As hung as I am this seems redundant.
This. Haven't done the back pack method but I should probably start. Seen alot of progress in my chest in a short amount of time just from push ups and dips
also do them on rings to get the stabilization effect and rotation like dumbells
this
also place the rings on a bosu ball for max instability gains
Based calisthenics chads
If you want ottermode sure but turn you could just play football or go for a run because you won't gain any muscle mass from either.
If you have enough added weight on you to not be able to do more than like 10-12 pushups, then it is hypertrophy zone right?
It is but it's not enough stimuli if you want to get big. Sure you will gain some muscle but you won't look like you lift. Literally look at any football player. They are fit but with barely any muscle.
>it's in the hypertrophy zone but not enough to get big
I legit don't understand
Poor gays doing push-ups with a backpack full of rocks…. Lol, with your broke ass.
post body
I prefer the hammer strength incline press
I wish we had those in my gym
my shoulders always hurt and feel loaded only when using this machine
Had this problem when I started using the machine. I solved this by adjusting the seat a bit higher so my elbows are a bit tucked in. You'll have to adjust the seat a few times to find your groove depending your build/frame.
Something about these machines just doesn't work for my body. I can bench 180lbs with good form for 5-8ish reps, but if I load 90lbs onto this fricker I can hardly move it. I've tried lowering and raising the chair, a closer or wider grip... it just doesn't work.
the weight at the bottom of the pulley does not translate the the weight of barbells or dumbells in a comparable exercise.
The actual resistance varies pretty greatly between types of machines, and even between identical machines depending on the state of the components.
dont try to apply machine numbers to free weights and vice versa
but muh stabilizing muscles
Lmao at posting the selectorized MTS grandma version not the plate loaded real one
>I prefer the machine
>can do 4x10 2.5-3pl8 on the plate loaded version of this
>can only do 1.5pl8 bench because of shaking and form issues
Did I neglect my stabilizing muscles? Is it over bros?
All pushing exercises are better with dumbbells.
There is literally no reason to do BB bench unless you're a powerlifter.
shut up
For some reason my forearm's all fricked up so barbells hurt, I'm so glad dumbbells exist so I can work out without feeling agonizing pain every time I curl.
>More loading potential
Here's one
>left arm decides to accidentally lockout on a 5rm
>heh guess you didn't need your shoulder joint anon-kun
Accidentally? What
Dumbbells are for dumb people
Use smartbells like a smart person
Unless you answer barbell flies, you're NGMI
fuarkkk
Wtf is that
barbell flys have been scientifically proven to induce irrythmic dystrophy of the quadlaterial anterior pectoral muscle chain under equilaterial tension loads in several studies. It can lead to his pic.
I’m hyper mobile so I used to go all the way down to the floor with mine. Look what it’s done to my rib cage… I’m still recovering three years later from doing it with 60s.
you look like an overwrought anime character, thats rad as hell
Barbell flys? Put down the bottle
just bend the bar you dyels
Only true chads can fold the barbell in half to do a fly
What the frick is a barbell fly
>scientifically proven
DB is for homosexuals who can't into proper technique (and girls but they are also homosexuals because they like men other than lesbians who are the definition of a homosexual)
DB is for people who care about hypertrophy
Tell me more about your 65lb db bench anon
>tfw just got to 3 reps of 65lb db bench
w-when is it worth talking about it?
>w-when is it worth talking about it?
when you can press the dusty dumbbells that you haven't seen anyone in the gym ever touch
is this motivating for you guys? just asking.
is setting 3x10 goals not even a little bit boring?
just a good source of reference for how you are growing stronger, one of those things that is nice to know
well its got its pros and cons, db gets better results for me than barbell ever did, eventually adding to barbell is hard in its own way, for instance I was stuck at 185 3x5 for several weeks before I started training with dbs, the thing is with dumbells you can also overload easier by squeezing out an extra rep every workout, so for instance you may be doing 70s but the first set you can do 11 reps the next time, but the second and third set are still 10 if that makes sense, it makes it easier to see tangible though less impactful gains, but I guess I got over training merely for strength I want to look and feel better and dbs are better suited for that anyway
No offence this makes little sense. Barbell has more loading potential than dumbbell, that's the main advantage. You can't overload easier it's just less fatiguing since you're not pushing as heavy loads. It just sounds like you dont have good programming for increasing your bench press and just like doing DB more
you overload dbs by increasing the total rep ranges, bb by weight if that makes sense, if youre going to increase reps on bb you would db for superior rom and less chance of injury, make sense?
No it doesn't make sense because you can do progressive overload on both exercises by increasing weight or reps. The ROM on DB is superior though yeah, I do both with DB an an accessory movement
was the guy that originally replied, still making my own program, so many possibilities. give bench progression advice pls.
Depends what your goals are? Are you trying to get better at heavy singles or progressing in higher rep ranges (say 5-7)? I would do variations of bench and be benching at least 3x a week if you want to get your bench up. Doing a pause day, tempo bench, or exercises like the Larsen press etc can all help increase your BB bench. Your chest is a smaller muscle and recovers quicker and can handle more volume on BB movements than your legs or back
I want to look like a dorito shaped man and bench more than i currently do. I do bench 2/3 days a weeks 5 Sets, 6-8 reps do a pyramid most times.
Seen a bunch on doing a heavy day and a dynamic day, also seen a hypertrophy day a power day and a strength day. There's all sorts.
>literally repeating Mark Rippetoe talking points verbatim
Stop giving advice.
It's not mark rippetoe talking points moron, I don't like rippetoe. You can load BB movements more than DB movements, that's just a fact
>bb bench 185 for 3x5
>db bench 140 for 3x10
what do you think would have happened if you had done bb bench, but with 140lbs for sets of 3x10, do you think you could have squeezed out an extra rep?
I actually did do 1pl8 for reps but I found when I used bb the weight was significantly less due to I guess some lacking stabilizer muscles, like I had trouble with 50s when I started
>when I started using dbs sorry
150s anon (srs, sorry)
I only do 120s nowadays as my ancient shoulders are fricked but 150s were where people start staring
>just hit 70 lbs db press for 3x10
whats the equivalent of 2pl8 with this shit, it scales so weird
You have a 170 lb bench press.
90-95s would be an approximate for 2-plate.
Imo 95's are comparable
>obliterates your biceps
nothin personnel kid
Cable flies are superior imo
But those are not bulgarian ring dips
zercher dips > bulgarian split dips
>tfw 12 reps of 90lb weighted dips
>zoomer thinking he's tough shit incline pressing the 80s
>I setup shop next to him and shoulder press the same weight and deathstare him when I'm done
Zoomers are such pussies
>can shoulder press 40's (kg) for 3-5 reps no issue
>scared to go above 40 for flat DB bench
why is this? my BB ORM is 130