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chinups will always be girl pullups
overhand all the way
>he doesn't do both
NGMI
Pullups.
This.
Wide grip pullups are king.
Straight your legs out in an L-sit position, or at 45degree angle from the floor. As long as legs are held stiffly infront, you won't swing.
>t. Pullups for years
both + neutral grip pullups
/thread
2pbp
Why not both? I simply do 5x10 pull-ups and 5x10 chin-ups with baby weight (20 kg).
chinups are a bicep exercise, pull ups are a back exercise, neutral is the worst of both worlds
weighted pull ups are the best option because you can more easily target biceps with other exercises
Chinups are still a back exercise when performed with correct rom and form. As far as the lats are concerned, there's no difference unless you're purposely changing the form and rom to be a biceps exercise. Likewise, I could claim pull ups are a brachialis and brachioradialis exercise because you can change the rom and form as well.
Your grip is going to be more narrow with chin ups, smaller than shoulder width. Going too wide fricks up your wrists. That puts more focus on the arms. Pull ups are done wide, which puts more focus on the back.
>Not doing extreme wide grip chin ups
Ngmi
>neutral is the worst of both worlds
Neutral is more brachiatus and lats than a chinup, like a cable row
Chin Ups are a better back exercise, but only because most people don't do them correctly. It's a hanging ROW, you are supposed to ROW your torso to the bar not just curl your body weight. But most people don't fricking know that.
You're thinking of a front lever moron
jej
rings
Wide grip pullups.
Your hands should be out farther than your elbows at the top.
wide grip hurts my impinged shoulder
Commando 360 quickscope pullups
>using commando pro to cheat on ROM
Neck hangs plz
pull-ups can be iffy on some forearm/biceps tendons
chin-ups done on a straight bar can be iffy on your wrists
neutral or slightly angled supinated is usually the most joint friendly
anyway, I do both at the moment on separate days, no reason not too as I am currently not residing in snap city. had a biceps/forearm issue with weighted pull-ups that I could bypass by simply doing chin-ups or supinated pull-downs
I love pull-ups but they’ve been causing some crunch shoulder pain for the last month, I had to switch to chin-ups.
I fear for the future of my lats…
You need to keep your elbows pointed forward to avoid the shoulder issues. Also, do warmups.
Thanks, will try! What sort of warmups?
I can tell the shoulder issues are caused and/or aggravated by barbell bench and OHP too.
>What sort of warmups?
1 External rotation with a cable
2 Internal rotation with a cable
Supinated for close grip
Pronated for wide grip
Neither
Dyel homosexual b***h
I think pullups are probably more applicable in the real world
When you have above 99 iq you understand that they are two totally different exercises that work different muscles.
when you have more than 99 iq you realize thast not the case at all.
weighted pullups on the fat bar
light weight supinated lat pulldowns
How do I stop swinging while doing chin-ups? After about 5 full ROM reps I have to pause at the bottom until my body stops swinging. Am I not engaging my core correctly?
Learn to find instructional videos on YouTube. There are thousands of excellent, short videos showing exactly how to stop swinging. Why ask anonymous users on a message board?
I've seen videos on YouTube about the topic but wanted to solicit other's advice here. You are like the boneheads above arguing whether chin-ups or pull-ups are better. Doing both is better.
I'm a bonehead? You're the one who can't do a pull-up without swinging, and can't figure out how to follow a YouTube instructional video.
Keep asking us questions, I'm sure it'll help
what a disgunting Black person dyel response. anyway
yes, its a core and shoulders problem. isolate those and you will stop swinging
keep your feet straight slightly in front of you for the entire duration of the set
pull in a slight curve, not straight up (over-gripping the bar can help)
pause briefly at the top (clavicle/chest)
control the eccentric to some extent
congrats, you did you first real pull-up
forgot to add, pause at the bottom with your scapula engaged
feel the stretch in the lat
how strict and controlled you do all of these things can be used as a progression metric besides reps and added weight
10 spastic reps throwing your chin over the bar vs 10 real pull-ups are two very different things
>forgot to add, pause at the bottom with your scapula engaged
pointless
a loaded stretch in the target muscle pointless?
decades of bro science and now recent science disagrees
Yeah just pause in the bottom of every lift why not
core tight of course
flex glutes
keep legs together, don't cross them because that's for gays. legs straight. focus on flexing your legs outwards, the muscles on the outside of your legs, but still keep them together.
don't know why it works but it does. asked some people training for special forces about it a while back.
look into fat grip pullups for extra gains
the answer is pullups it work more muscle groups
Who gives a shit OP can do neither
Pull ups + towel pull ups
>THE GREAT DEBATE.
What fricking great debate? Nobody cares about chin ups
Nobody on fit because they are midwits
Chins are objectively superior. They're the same motion but with the biceps included
I'd rather have my pull-ups help with brachialis. Biceps get enough work out chin ups is wasting the chance to help your other muscles.
>I'd rather have my pull-ups help with brachialis
And chins don't?
>Biceps get enough work out chin ups is wasting the chance to help your other muscles.
Not for us compoundchads
>45 replies
>No one gives the correct answer
It's dead hang
/thread
>dyel 'exercise' adopred by military to accomodate women who can't do pullups.
Full rotation ring pull ups like God intended.
>chin
If you're not pulling the bar to your chest, you're a homosexual that did no reps.
pullups, chinups are too easy to tear a bicep on.
I do pullups to failure then I do chinups to failure
there is no debate.
So pullups are better?
Clearly you get more overall activation from chins with only a tiny bit less activation of the lats
both work the lats practically the same but chin ups work the biceps almost 50% more
So chin ups are healthier.
Chins use more muscle
Weighted chinups 5 reps per set, bodyweight pull-ups to failure