The Great Filters of Making It

Common filters that stop dyels from making it. Here are some from me:
>Overanalization filter (aka optimization filter)
Overthinking your training and not establishing a base of core exercises that can be reliably progressed in with weight/reps, adding useless junk to "maximize your gains".
Example: When I was a dyel I binged science(tm) based yt fitness and had 4 bicep exercises in my program, because there are 4 elbow flexors - brachialis, 2 heads of the biceps and brachioradialis. My goal was to "optimize" the growth of all of them. Now I only do 2 hard-hitting exercises 3sets each per week on each of my upper days.
>Novelty filter
Following social media trends and continuously introducing new flashy exercises, not keeping exercises in your program for longer periods of time and thus not progressing in them. Fitness content is very repetitive and noone wants to do their 10th video about how to Squat, so there is always a tendency to reinvent the wheel. Recent examples: lenghtened partials and illiac pull-downs instead of heavy pull-ups/pull-downs.
>Minimalism filter (aka SS filter)
For me it came after first 2 filters. Bench works your tricep, squats work your abs and calves, or at least rip said so. While I did not do SS as written, I only did compounds. We all have seen the horrors this kind of mindset produces.
>Ab anxiety filter
It is often said that "If you can't see your abs you are fat". Auschwitz victims have no abs, are they fat? Cutting is useless if you have no muscle. Very often you can observe 180cm/60kg anons with a little pudges of fat on their belly asking if they need to cut. Unless you have a gut as a beginner you should not cut, even I you can't see your abs. RF while being a sperg was very right about this.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >making it
    Doesn't exist. There is always a tomorrow, a next week, a next month, a next year. There is always a possibility that within the future, you will die. Did you maintain your habits? Did you maintain your discipline? Or did you "make it" and then live happily ever after as you smoked, drank, partied, got fat, got cancer, got AIDS, and died in a ditch.

    As soon as you think you "made it", you just lost it all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't 'make it' in fitness, but I certainly did in music. There's no strict definition, but when you reach a certain point you just instinctively know that you made it. You don't care what others say anymore and you don't have any urge to show of with your skills. You just feel it and you don't need any confirmation from other people.
      I'm pretty sure you can 'make it' in fitness as well and you will know when it happens.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Made it in music eh? How many albums have yousold? How much do you make from it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What are you even saying?
      "Making it" is achieving a goal and being happy with it.
      First goal, achieve target body.
      Second goal, maintain it.
      Third goal, be happy with it.
      It's literally that simple.
      But people keep falling into the trap of wanting more and more. Hmm, I guess I am 200lbs now but do I really look good? What if get to 220lbs. Wait, I have 1/2/3/4 but it's only for 1 rep, wouldn't it be much better to have it for 5 reps. I bet I'd make it and be happy then. I made it... wait I'm not that lean, guess I didn't make it now, but if I do small test cycle... Congratulations, you have body dysmorphia.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Making it is the journey not the destination, its the adventue, the buildup , the grinding mindset, a single pr that is packed into countless lifts, fit food and discipline

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Making it just means living in a huge mansion with two lambos, loads of money, a godlike aesthetic physique with world class strength, lots of friends and b***hes coming over to party and hang around and fricking half a dozen times every day. Oh and mantaining a healthy relationship with your family.

      For me, this is making it.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You missed literally the biggest filter

    >consistent diet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this

      also boredom filter
      lifting gets to a point it's just futile maintenance work

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that happens when you reach your genetic potential, which i seriously doubt. If youre bored, switch it the frick up man, keep it fresh. Try new modifications and play with your grips. Train your dead hang (my new thing) when i started i could barely hang for 30s. Now im up to 2 minutes in a couple months. Amazing for forearm development, rotator cuff, and stretching the lats. No frickin way your big enough to stop training hypertrophy. Get out there and get big, brudduh. Oh yeah and have fun

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >first interesting thread on fit in a while
    >2 replies
    Typical. More and more I realize this place is comprised of newbies who haven't lifted more than 3 months

    Anyway I really believe The Great Filter is injury. No one gives a shit about correct technique and balanced training until they snap something. Literally everyone over 30 has a story about what they used to bench/squat/etc and very very few are able to come back to and/or surpass their peak

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this and

      You missed literally the biggest filter

      >consistent diet

      My worst regression came with periods of shoulder and knee injury and sitting on my ass too long. Since then I went to a physio for my problems and neurotically do the work they gave me to prevent getting in that rut again.

      https://i.imgur.com/msxIf06.jpeg

      Common filters that stop dyels from making it. Here are some from me:
      >Overanalization filter (aka optimization filter)
      Overthinking your training and not establishing a base of core exercises that can be reliably progressed in with weight/reps, adding useless junk to "maximize your gains".
      Example: When I was a dyel I binged science(tm) based yt fitness and had 4 bicep exercises in my program, because there are 4 elbow flexors - brachialis, 2 heads of the biceps and brachioradialis. My goal was to "optimize" the growth of all of them. Now I only do 2 hard-hitting exercises 3sets each per week on each of my upper days.
      >Novelty filter
      Following social media trends and continuously introducing new flashy exercises, not keeping exercises in your program for longer periods of time and thus not progressing in them. Fitness content is very repetitive and noone wants to do their 10th video about how to Squat, so there is always a tendency to reinvent the wheel. Recent examples: lenghtened partials and illiac pull-downs instead of heavy pull-ups/pull-downs.
      >Minimalism filter (aka SS filter)
      For me it came after first 2 filters. Bench works your tricep, squats work your abs and calves, or at least rip said so. While I did not do SS as written, I only did compounds. We all have seen the horrors this kind of mindset produces.
      >Ab anxiety filter
      It is often said that "If you can't see your abs you are fat". Auschwitz victims have no abs, are they fat? Cutting is useless if you have no muscle. Very often you can observe 180cm/60kg anons with a little pudges of fat on their belly asking if they need to cut. Unless you have a gut as a beginner you should not cut, even I you can't see your abs. RF while being a sperg was very right about this.

      Also,
      >Burnout filter.
      Guys try go zero to 60 and plan so much into their routine that they can't keep up with it and then give up or burn out, assuming they don't injure themselves first.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First filter was full time job, I used to go in the mornings 5 times a week at uni. Now I laugh at that though, thinking I was busy because I had a full time job. Kids was the actual filter, literal gains goblins

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Kids was the actual filter, literal gains goblins
      One could argue that having children means you've made it, but they really do take a lot of your time. You can still make time to work out with kids, but you definitely have to really prioritize. You won't be hitting the gym 3+ times a week anymore.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Novelty filter doesn't exist unless you're dropping volume/intensity in the transition.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yeah tbh I was going to target shoulders with more science based stuff today, but ultimately I think I'm going to stick with the compound OHP. Not making nearly as much progress with it as other lifts but gotta keep grinding ig

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pareto principle is very real in fitness. 20% of effort give you 80% of gains. That is the important stuff.

    DYELs often concentrate on the 80% that give 20% of gains instead, and therefore fail.
    Whether your training is 100% scientifically valid literally doesn't matter as long as you have those 20% that give you most of your gains.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Enlightened post
      Also you see all of these DYEL obsessing over bodybuilding shit, things that only matter if you want to squeeze out those last few % of gains.
      >Which bicep exercise hits the best
      >Nah dude for chest you need to do incline bench and then decline cable flies and then high rep assisted dips and then kettle bell pullover and ...
      Maybe start by fixing your fricking posture and being able to do a bodyweight pull up before you start doing "forearm days" you cretin

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what does the 20% entail usually?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >workout consistency
        >diet consistency
        >intensity (with scalability)
        >sleep
        >learning how to actually contract the muscles you want to work

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          thx

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I fricking hate this scene. Hector represents what every man should achieve: strong, compasive, good father and husband, good son, respectful towards everyone. And yet they made him look like a pathetic homosexual in front of Achilles, the chad who's disrespectful to everyone, has no loyalty, no effort, is extremely wienery... you know what I mean. Also Achilles was supposed to be an immoral c**t that died before entering Troy.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              achilles fought for only himself and was based. leonidas fought for "his homeland" only for his grandson to sell out to the persians during the greek civil war which led to the end of the greek golden age and their civilisation never recovered.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >statue got even better chest and shoulders
          Damn.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stone boi needs to lay off the gear. Gyno showing like mad, look at those feminine nips

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Consistency and diet. I'd argue you can get 90% of gains with these two alone.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Actual filters:

    >Gym anxiety
    This is mostly for lanklets/hamplanets who are too afraid to go to the gym. They can maybe muster up courage to go a few times, but never consistently since they never feel comfortable there.

    >Shit lifestyle
    Gamer bros who'd rather grind runescape for 3 more hours than go and do their workout. Missed days pile up and they eventually give up saying they're too far behind anyways.

    >Shit diet
    Not getting enough cals and proteins stunts your n00b gains and kills your motivation. Happens to most dyels starting out.

    >Busy lifestyle
    Ultra wagies who sit in traffic 4 hours a day, and dads who get good sleep twice a week. Can't do shit about this really.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Gym anxiety
      This so much.
      You can however start at home, but your parents/gf might not tolerate having a squat rack in your living room.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I got a home gym setup so I can work out while I max my ultimate iron man

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Can't do shit about this really.
      Just roid (carefully with dosages based on low-end of bodybuilders/clinical trials).

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's a first filter that prevents people from putting in any serious effort: the "I don't want to get too big" filter. This is the most dangerous one imo, some people see a "toned" guy and think he doesn't lift heavy so they don't need to do it.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Minimalism filter (aka SS filter)
    This only applies as you age into your 30s. Hypertrophy becomes a Godsend for avoiding injury which really starts becoming an issue by 28ish

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Big filter right here
    >actually working out hard
    Lot's of people default to shitty gym routines that are as comfortable as possible. Like doing basic cable exercises with your arms, sitting on machines doing static movements and so on.
    The reality is if you really want to be all around fit you need to do some high intensity working out. Actual lifting, cardio, playing sports, things like that.
    I swear nowadays like 80% of the people in my gym expand less energy during their workouts than I do walking 25 minutes to the gym.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Implying cables can't make your arms burn like Satan is pissing through your veins

      why you gotta be like this man

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Optimisation was a huge filter for me for the longest time. My autistic ass wouldn't excersise if I missed "anabolic window".

    At this point though I thing most lifters suffer from body dysmophia

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Refusal to do steroids is probably _the_ great filter.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The Great Filters of Making It
    >Starting Strength
    >Posting on IST

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No dyel can break through the great filter, because when you break through you'll no longer be a dyel.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >giving up
    Whether passively or actively quitting, this is the only real filter
    You can frick up over and over again but if you’re still showing up and moving your body, and not eating garbage, you’ll still be more fit than the average person.
    When I started back in 2019 fitness consumed my thoughts and I did all sorts of unnecessary stuff. By 2022 I was getting bored and lifting became about as routine as brushing my teeth.
    I just kept showing up and watching movies while going through the motions. That’s where the differences in my physique really started to show. A few friends in my circle have lifted for a year and given up on that time. They started to look ok for a couple of months and then quickly went back to soft basedfed looking doughboys. If they had just kept going 3 days a week and doing the minimum they would’ve at least maintained their gains.

    “Just lift bro” is truly all you need

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >start going to gym
    >get a lil fit and a lil wienery
    >girls let you spit on them and put it in the ass
    >stop putting effort in ad this is the "lab rat coke button" equivalent for most men

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bad genetics
    poor childhood nutrition
    injury

    any of these happen and you're donezo. it's never happening, there is no light at the end of the tunnel. You can keep lifting and be better off than if you didn't, but you'll never make it

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Injuries are a filter.

    I didn't start doing mobility work until I hurt my rotator cuff. It wasn't something I was even aware about until I got injured and felt hopeless for a few months.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Trying to gain muscle and lose fat and the same time as a natty but just stalling at the same weights and yo-yo dieting for years.
    Source: Me since like 2015.

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