Anybody else gave up squatting and deadlifting after turning 30? I feel like my body is just not built for them
The injuries are just not worth it
Anybody else gave up squatting and deadlifting after turning 30? I feel like my body is just not built for them
I turn 33 in two days and squat and deadlift stop being a b***h like you are a 70 year old grandmother. Or dont literally doesnt matter or affect anyone in anyway.
but yea I do and I am an advanced lifter.
>and I am an advanced lifter
what is the weight lifting version of a fedora?
Bench
Turned 30 a month ago. Still deadlift regularly no trouble. Squats I have this weird tweak in my groin since I was like 26 that wont go away. It just makes my leg kinda stiff but really its not bad. Overall I don't feel any different
I had this from a hockey injury. I did that stupid adductor machine starting at very low weight for a few months. completely went away and I had it for a decade.
Aside from very very mild knee pain after some leg sessions, which goes away within 24 hours, my main problem is that I simply cannot recover properly from legs. It's 72 hours of soreness guaranteed and my performance has stagnated for a while.
Do cardio after a leg workout. Break up the lactic acid buildiup
I currently do 4-4.5 hours of cardio per week, except when I go hiking. Every single source recommends doing cardio before a strength training workout or to split the two into distinct sessions, because if you do you cardio after the strength training you will not be spending much time in Zone 2, which is the whole point of the cardio
I can see very clearly that my cardio work which I introduced in September (incline treadmill 3x/week, indoor bike 3x/week, interval training 0.5x/week, sprint trainging 0.5x/week) has lengthened my recovery, not improved it.
Yes, I understand the fundamental problem is that I am chasing two contradictory goals: strength fitness and endurance fitness.
Reduce volume or intensity, eat more meat, get more sleep. DOMS should not last 72 hours.
I see poopoo in those organs
Post body, unironically if you knee are bothering you at 30 you are overweight.
OP is that you in the pic? You should definitely stop squatting until you get a better squat plug.
I never gave up on them.
I just do one set in the 8-12 rep range twice a week, to volitional failure. Slowed the rep tempo a lot especially on the negative and dropped hamstring accessories because they're excessive. It's enough to see the weight go up which means some growth has to he occurring and I haven't had a knee/lower body injury since.
Deadlifts are a useless egolift that do shitall for hypertrophy.
The sooner you realize this, the more thankful your spine will be in the later years of your life.
i bet 5 reps of 1 plate twice a week, after working up to it and with proper form, would prevent lower back strain for life.
Otoh I think 4 plates is inherently dangerous for 99% of people.
Everyone who posts this always has the absolute worst take
It's one guy.
If that’s true that’s even more sad
it is one guy. see:
this is what a moronic smug homosexual with no friends looks like
LMFAO
You are stalking this smug dude. You're made for each other.
You can easily tell its the exact same filename after lurking fit for a while
>stalking
hello smug homosexual, just FYI you can throw something like this together in about 30 seconds by reverse searching on the archive. no stalking required. now please have a nice day.
most people who get injured squatting and deadlifting never learned proper form and push for < 5rm's. like no shit, if your back is bending uncontrolled during a squat or deadlift, your spine is gonna complain about it.
I started lifting at 30 (from complete skinnyfat) and did my first deadlifts then
Taking it slow I still hit 4pl8 within 2 years, 5pl8 within 3 years
Like an orangutan ni proportions, I am good at pulling, dragging things with my long arms
trt really is the fountain of youth.
What? I'm 52 and I squat more than the kids less than half my age. And I strict press 230.
Like the other guy said, stop being a little b***h.
I'm 34 and I haven't had too many problems with them. I did switch to trap bar deadlifts since the setup for conventional is awkward with my long legs.
WTF DID YOU DO TO YOUR GARLOID?!
> another homosexual is too pussy to do the hard shit so he pulls muh age card at fricking 30
Yawn.
meme exercises for powershitters, you should have never done them for longer than a year max
>Hack squat
>trapbar deads
You're welcome
Same OP. I'm 36 and rarely squat or dead anymore. My boomer hip and knees just ain't having it.
32 here, hurt my back pretty bad doing squats late 2023. I just do different exercises, not worth the risk.
Correct squats/diddies make you less susceptible to injury not more.
My boomer dad started lifting at 45 and now at 63 still squats 405 x 5. He doesn't get hurt and he's more resilient because of it.
I'm 31 and squat 515 x 5 and it helps my knees; when I stop squatting my knees often hurt a bit. I've definitely hurt myself squatting before, but that's because I was a greedy idiot. Now I never get injured. Squatting makes me feel healthier.
I diddy too ofc, but unless you're absolutely moronic it's pretty hard to get hurt diddying. I've only hurt myself squatting.
Yes. I do pistol squats now for 95% of real life benefits to 0.0001% risk of injury
Pussy
Turn 40 next week and have been progressing diddly to a little over 250 after ignoring the lift most of my life. I know that is an embarrassing number for the exercise but my lower body is feeling so much better.
haven't done a squat in over 6 years, since both my knees is fricked. Just one year ago, i couldn't deadlift more than 20 kg on each side or train legs at all. Now i'm up at 55-60 kg on each side and do train legs, but still can't do a bodyweight squat kek because it still fricks with my knees. Wouldn't stop doing deadlifts
how fat are you?
>Squatting
Zero risk if you're in a rack with the safeties set up correctly. Why would I ever stop squatting? I'm over 5pl8 (in my early 30s) and I've never felt any of this knee pain I'm supposed to be having.
>Deadlifting
I do heavy RDLs where I start by lifting it off the safety pins at knee height. Better for hypertrophy, back safety, ease of set up (taking plates on and off when the bar is elevated is so much easier) etc.
No because I stretch and I'm not an inflexible pussy
450 squat
485 deadlift
34 yo
I hope the stretch comes at the end of the exercises snap city-kun.
I'm 30 turning 31 soon have no issues deadlifting or squating.
look at the fricking breasts on that Black person
Pass that choccy milk
jeez..
I am 34. Last year I hit a 405 PR at 160lbs bodyweight. I am not getting injured but I just don’t see any reason to push farther. I’ve dialed back a bit on squat weight and mostly just maintain. I’ve added more leg presses and other accessories in as they are less mentally fatiguing and help motivate me to look forward to workouts.
Deadlifts I’ve never liked. Frick ‘em
Why? If you are “tall” just do them off low set safeties or, to really piss IST off, on an angled smith machine.
I have slightly shorter arms and have a longer torso relative to my legs. I’m not meant mechanically for deadlifts. I’d rather just not do them and make up the work elsewhere. Plus when I did deadlifts it just interferes with my leg progress.
Telling you man, do them in the smith machine.
Oh shut up stop being such a little b***h
You're not supposed to keep breaking plateaus until reaching 10pl8 or something
There's nothing wrong with comfortably lifting the same weight for an extended period of time
Powelard culture fried your brain
gave up after a knee surgery (from rugby) couldn't reach depth or anything like that for a few months so just got redpilled on bulgarian split squats. Legs look much better, but that's because i do hypertrophy now.
I don't need to squat because I'm too old to be chasing numbers (30) and worrying about how much I lift. I do it to be better at life and sports.
Could also easily make the argument that BSS shits all over squats. Deadlifts are okay, but no real need for them for me. Just didn't like em, and replaced it with other stuff that actually gets me excited to train.
Wouldn't recommend to anyone to stop doing either lift, but if you're having trouble and you're a 6'5 lanklet like me who can't get great form then i would suggest bulgarians as an alternative.
i gave then up at 19
returning to deadlifting after 30 made my backpain go away. i felt the same way as you and i just started out ridiculously light and built from there.
It's a fact that 89% of athletes will suffer back injuries in their lifetime (look it up you fricking idiots). Regular Joe stands a 25% risk.
This whole "squatz n deadliftz" makes you a REAL man shit has got to stop. It injures absolutely everyone eventually and it doesn't matter how well you autistically keep your back straight because of "form".
I looked it up on Joogle and it said ELITE athletes, and back PAIN not injuries.
I also looked it up on Bing, and it said you're a little lying homosexual twink.
In case it needs to be said, your little 1.5hr training session 4 times per week does not make you an elite athlete.
You have no game schedule, no training day requirements, no on/off season. You are a crude mockery of athletic prowess. You can rest whenever you want, and when you have a little tweak from rushing warmups and call it an injury no one will come to your aide.
I'm 42, and I'm about to warm up with zercher deadlifts, followed by some heavy conventional singles, followed by SLDL, and finish out with paused front squats. I do this every other week as a tribute to all the glassbacked homosexuals on this board- and in this thread in particular.
You better hope you die from your disgusting weakness before I get my hands on you, you fricking eternal disappointments.
>muh I am the REAL man *screaming chimp noises*
disgusting mongrel go do some cardio then you'll earn the right to call yourself a man
I do cardio daily and I deadlift, so it would appear that you are the one who is filtered here, my glassbacked friend.
You have a much higher risk of injury doing cardio due to the fact that it requires a high endurance session and your form absolutely degrades during whatever cardio you are doing.
Should we all just stop doing cardio like a b***h?
>Regular Joe stands a 25% risk.
wat the frick does this even mean and where the frick did you get these gay ass stats? you trying to say 1 in every 4 workouts leads to injury? the frick kind of dyel argument is this
>It's a fact that 89% of athletes will suffer back injuries in their lifetime (look it up you fricking idiots)
Honestly the only times I heard someone injured their back was from Mike Tyson. The most frequent injury I hear about are ACL tears due to just practicing their respective sport, nothing to do with working out.
Doesn't even really seem like you even know what sports is if you actually believed most athletes have significant back injuries
>It's a fact that 89% of athletes will suffer back injuries in their lifetime (look it up you fricking idiots). Regular Joe stands a 25% risk
You're a lying little b***h, Regular Joe is WAY more likely to have a bad back than a measly 25% chance.
>Lifetime prevalence of low back pain (LBP) is reportedly 75-84% of the general population studied in developed countries
per https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4153910/
It's essentially no difference in fat countries, if your 89% risk for athletes is a real number and not pulled out of the same ass as your 25% figure.
You're going to get low back pain regardless unless you maintain a low bodyweight and don't frick around with chairs. Modern society is shit for everyone's back. But the #1 factor uniting all of the people I know who have ended up disabled due to back pain is that they are fat and they don't work out.
Don't pull a Ronnie Coleman, but so long as you aren't a moron, you aren't going to ruin your back doing strength training lifts, you're way more likely to ruin your back in a car accident or lifting things for practical purposes without having done any strength training, or sitting in a chair and atrophying all your spinal erector muscles and going to the chiropractor instead of losing weight and exercising.
Do you know whats extremely ironic about this entire thread? Literally all doctors suggest you to start deadlifting if you want to be able to stand or sit for long times in order to avoid lower back pain.
Even dentists recommends all dentists to start deadlifting since they will be sitting and leaning over a lot
Ah a broscientist
to even come up with this bs to back up your beliefs proves you're a moron
Just go to student doctor network if you don't believe me. Check the forums, just search deadlift
you don't need to do deadlifts or squats for whatever goal you're trying to achieve aside from having having big numbers in deads and squats.
theres a myriad of exercises that achieve the same result.
no way morons like you pass the filter.
>you don't need to do
Thats not the argument you idiot. You're trying to make a claim these things aren't recommended in the health profession when it clearly is.
Now you are trying to change the subject to protect your fragile ego about being wrong.
i recommend you smoke a skin flute, it's highly recommended by fitness community on IST, literally every IST poster recommends it.
lmao sorry did i hit a nerve?
did i? because thats exactly how you presented your argument?
He's never going to address that 84% of general pop Americans will have back pain from being fat, weak, and chairbound, instead of 25% as he claimed. Why would he address anything else?
>whatever goal you're trying to achieve aside from having having big numbers in deads and squats
who said anything about lifting like a professional? why is it so hard to believe deadlifts will strengthen your lower back?
It's not the lifts. It's the attitude. How many other rationalizations do they make to not do the difficult things? If these people get results, fine. They've figured it out. Most don't.
>Most don't.
>Just doing deadlifts and squats
t. dental student
the anon is right. working out, especially deadlifts, are recommended for all of us. im quite certain its true for regular office workers too
I mainly switched from squats and dl to knees over toes lunges and sldl after turning 30. But not because I can't squat. I'm much less tight and achy than in most of my 20's right now. It's more that squatting and deadlifting heavy is utterly moronic if you don't have specific goals, in sports or bodybuilding. Guys doing that year after year for decades, is there really any point?
I squatted 600+ lbs as a natty teenager and did it again in my 20's. Both times were to meet specific goals in sports and later aesthetics/rehabing injuries. Both times took over a year of consistent lifting and nutrition, mainly just scarfing enough meat, fat and collagen sources. I never, ever want to do that shit again tbh and it boggles my.mind why people want to do this. In your 30's you should be Pittmaxing, doing cardio, staying not fat. Enjoying this fleeting life bros.
maybe you should learn to squat and pull properly
Pre fatigue your legs and then do squats with a moderate weight and a high rep range and your legs will grow heavy squats are a meme
https://youtube.com/shorts/uFl2DbMGd6w?si=WgvMG5nGc5HUq7dr
Don't be a weak homosexual
It's cool that he aged kind of like Andre of Astora. But I'm just not sure if it's for me. I don't lift much more than my bodyweight and prefer the leaner, more fighting weight look.
>I don't lift much more than my bodyweight and prefer the leaner, more fighting weight look.
Sounds like you never worked out a single day if your life if you believe you will somehow be jacked if you squat or bench more than your bw.
Nah I used to be an athlete. Got sick of such hard training after so many years of it tbh anon.
I'm experimenting with some HIT ideas for recomp and don't want to go much heavier than like 2 pl8 right now. Truth is it is kind of moronic to attempt this, for a few reasons by conventional wisdom but I'm Faustian and want to see if this concept will work.
>Nah I used to be an athlete.
In what? Chess?
Football and wrestling.
>Nah I used to be an athlete
So was I. I love to play the sports and be athletic.
This might be the gayest zoomer shit I've seen posted on this Latvian rabbit textile blogspot.
Just turned 36 and I'll be squatting 160kg for 5reps tomorrow, hoping to get to 200kg for 1 by the end of year. There should be no issue if you have proper form. Only downside is the toll it takes on my nervous system for a couple days
People just don't get how important femur length is. It's like a different exercise if they're too long.
Explain the importance then you dyel
>Risk of injury from working is high
>Risk of injury from casually playing some sport is even higher
So I guess none of us should play any sports more than just casually? Seems like working out is the safer bet compared to just sports
I squat 170kg, deadlift 225, but nothing beats heavy back extensions, if I didn't do them after squats and deads pretty sure my whole body would be fricked.
ditto anon, i actually injured my low back and knees by lifting like a moron, but dialing in to proper form training and progressing on heavy back extensions has helped me recover and come back a lot stronger.
Yeah, though I never was into them to begin with. Puts a lot of unnecessary strain on body if you go heavy. Useless if your main goal is aesthetics. Worth it only to athletes, mostly meme besides that.
>Puts a lot of unnecessary strain on body if you go heavy.
Not sure if you know this but working out in general is not necessary at all to look good and live a long life. I could use your same dyel logic and ask why are you moronic enough to even workout at all? We got cigarrette smokers who outlive bodybuilders, weed homosexuals who have higher lung capacities than cardio athletes, alcoholics who can tolerate higher doses of drugs and survive what most people cant, etc etc.
You're a blabbering idiot, jesus you're stupid
Yea nobody cares homosexual, go cry more about nothing
You pussies do realize 30's are your lifting prime right? Man up.
I unironically think I fricked up my testicles from squatting. Anyone else had that experience?