The sad truth is that there is just no way to get a physique that impresses normies or women naturally anymore
Social media, movie stars on gear, it has all skewered the definitions of fitness so hard it's impossible to keep up
A young girl these days think frauded tiktok influencers are natty and achievable for any guy, that's what you're competing with
It's simply over for young natties
Yeah you can if your 18 to 25 fucking easy. You produce so much hormones when young and insulin is a potent anabolic growth hormone when young. Even 30s you can still do it. Id say maybe 40s is where you run into issues, people look for any excuse to go the easy fastest route possible.
Lmao, post any natty 18-25 year old, I guarantee girls will think he's a dyel compared to the fitness influencers they schlick to
Why does he have a fallout ghoul nose
He said post a natty retard
99% sure will is natty
hahahaha
This guy has been training for 20 years and competed almost 15 years in classic bodybuilding. Tested. I believe he might be natural and looks around the same as that kid, who's been training for a few years?
>"""Natty""" competitive bodybuilding
Lol
Not natty
Matt is confirmed natty
You cannot confirm the absence of something, only its presence
Matt has been autistically tested by MPMD (i know) so i think its safe to say its natty
>oh look im not on anything anymore im so natty
ur so gullible its pathetic
and get over ur derek worship u fucking weirdo
>Tested
just like the olympics and the WWE?
100% not natty
possibly natty
manlet
100% natural - common knowledge btw
no women are flocking their bena to this ugly moron
99% sure this guy is natty
100% sure this guy is natty
This, its mostly bullshit. Take it from a guy with a physique almost as good as pic related. Not done gear but I have starved myself more than once.
>I guarantee girls will think he's a dyel compared to the fitness influencers they schlick to
>girls
>shlicking to fitness influencers
lmao. they don't give a fuck, dude. you can look at any given fitness influencer roidchud and 95% of his following will be other dudes
Times have changed, fren
Most girls I know prefer lean, natty, and muscular. By lean I mean normal lean like 15% or a little less and by muscular I mean as long as they can see a little shoulder a little bicep a little lat and you have abs (or like abs peaking through with a tiny bit of fat) then you made it
I just realized so many zoomers wear hats indoors because they're going bald from the roids
I also realised that OP is a demoralizing gigagay, digits and he gets raped by nickacado
Based. Rolling for OP to be raped by a pack of feral morons
Roll
They truly are the most retarded generation.
I lifted heavy mid 2010's when it was still niche and nobody knew what they were doing. Bulked full retard, made some decent strength gains within 1-2 year, and achieved an unholy bloatlord physique. Was accused of steroids several times, because there were no massive consumption of social media in general and especially not fake natties posting their physiques everywhere.
Current generation is propped up on mental illness, medications against that illness, DHT-blockers, roids/sarms and whatever else. I know 20-30% of millennials are on depression meds too but damn, young people are fucked up in 5 different ways nowadays.
>Current generation is propped up on mental illness, medications against that illness, DHT-blockers, roids/sarms and whatever else.
You can blame gays like Derek and other MPMD wannabe channels for this. These people have profited off of providing children with the resources to buy and take steroids, convincing literal children that steroids are "risk free".
Derek never said steroids are risk free though
>sure, Derek has dozens of videos downplaying the negative effects of steroids, deliberately misconstruing steroid studies, and outright claiming certain side effects don't matter, but since he never said verbatim "steroids are risk free" he didn't actually do anything wrong
You should become a lawyer.
Doesn't matter. It still implants the idea of steroids. All these massive guys on TikTok, IG, and Youtube hiding behind """"""""comedy""""""""" and """""""information"""""""" making jokes and 30 min long videos about cycles and steroids just makes young, impressionable zoomers want to be apart of it.
Where does derek provide a source for buying gear and where does he state they're risk free.
He always talks about the risks and side effects.
Extremely low IQ
Made an error, not mid 2010's. It was right before and after 2010. In mid 2010's lifting had become relatively popular.
You ever see the webm of a girl going around to her family members and saying what pills they take? Pretty much every woman in her family was on some combination of antidepressants and anxiety meds. The amount of people who are pumped full of pharmacy chemicals every day is astonishing.
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>Current generation is propped up on mental illness, medications against that illness, DHT-blockers, roids/sarms and whatever else. I know 20-30% of millennials are on depression meds too but damn, young people are fucked up in 5 different ways nowadays.
couldn't have said it better myself, it's quite sad to see. so much potential and youth wasted for digital likes and validation
Holy shit the biggest roidest looking zoomers all wear hats at my gym. Kek. Also rolling, fuck OP.
I'm poor so everyone knows im authentic 🙂
but i am marathoner and ottermode so no bitches
i think social media and the internet has skewered YOUR idea of what's impressive because I'm a DYEL and get compliments all the time about my physique. IST in general is an echo chamber of doom and gloom but in reality when you log off and look around outside things aren't so bad
Heckin epic blackpill my good sir!! Your post convinced me to sell all my equipment and give up immediately.
>A young girl these days thinks frauded tiktok influencers are natty and achievable for any guy, that's what you're competing with
This couldn't be further from the truth. I look dyel as fuck by this board's standards, teetering on the brink of skinnyfat, yet I'm regularly told I look strong by men and women alike. Last week I even had a random girl at the grocery store call me jacked.
The actual blackpill is that the general population is so unfit that standards are lower than they've ever been. Your perception of fitness is warped by being on this board, the reality is most young men don't give a shit about fitness and just want to play video games. Likewise, young women are being actively encouraged to not take of their bodies and welcome weight gain and sedentary living. Society as a whole is suffering from a plague of mediocrity. The fitness influencers you see posted here are, like you and me, only a tiny fraction of the population.
Post body, I want to base myself off of something, you're potentially giving me hope
IST doomers will simultaneously argue that society is failing because men arent manly anymore and everyone is fat like nicocado avocado and at the same time that everyone is super jacked and roiding to the point where a natural body looks bad, gotta pick one my fellow virgins
The sad truth is quite the opposite. Just not being fat makes you top 20% of the population now. Even among 18 - 25 demographic in the US, you are top 40%. Its never been easier to stand out.
this isn't true/relevant, lots of degenerate ugly/fat people are actually doing degenerate shit, while most (self proclaimed) incels are skinny average looking guys
On social media and amongst a large collection of peers--on the internet--yes, you'll need to roid to stand out. In real life and within social media circles of known people and friends you do not need roids in any way to be considered strong. This is doubly true for women. Women are retarded children--the social, interpersonal dimension is so strong for then that it often supersedes reality. If you're the "buff guy" in her head due to what a friend says, a random acr of strength like opening a pickle jar or picking up a box, or even just because you SAY you lift and ACT like it, a female will think you're jacked. I've seen women literally convince themselves that absolute DYEL's and novices are huge because they a) had a pretty face and weren't fat and b) somebody said they were buff. Women are peak normie: they believe whatever everyone around them tells them to believe. They were bred to be this way. It's part of the reason IST hates them so much (the other is they can't get laid).
>Women are peak normie: they believe whatever everyone around them tells them to believe. They were bred to be this way.
This is true. Had a coworker who for some reason absolutely loved me. She would always talk to the other female coworkers about how smart and handsome I was. It was incredible how having her as my cheerleader made a lot of the other women on the office come on board with her views and start saying the same things and smiling at me and flirting with me. I know for a fact that it would not have happened if that first coworker had not constantly talked about me. The phenomenon is real, and can either make or break you in social settings.
Dyel cope. When I was a natty I had a decent physique, worked as a lifeguard and got lots of attention from female guards and the male guards said I was on steroids.
Post body natty vs enhanced
Ronnie Coleman is my favorite natty body builder
>Best anabolic steroids for teenagers
>Body is mid
He doesn't need roids, he needs to understand programming and probably what he's even doing in a gym
pin or remain incel, your choice. i miss 2016.
Who cares about impressing normalfags or women?
>It's impossible to keep up
Yeah how will I ever keep up with my full head of hair and working penis? LMAO
>The sad truth is that there is just no way to get a physique that impresses normies or women naturally anymore
Not true from personal experiences. Just lifting makes you standout from the crowd. That's also how bad it is
lifting and being lean puts you in the top 5% of physiques
Stop trying to impress people.
We’ve gone down a road from which there’s no turning back.
Pic related, a muscular physique depicted in Dune (1984).
Fuck captcha.
Pic related. Big baddie in Lynch’s 1984 Dune.
Absolutely. This goes for pp size too. Feel bad for zoomers. There’s no grip on reality anymore. Btw pic related was THE late teens-early 20s heartthrob in the mid 2000s
Yes. But people will still support media forms and faggy tech propaganda dissemination gadgets yet whine when they reach their inevitable clown world conclusions.
in my experience normies and women are impressed extremely easily. You just have to be better than average which can be achieved very easily.
Yet most of this board can't get laid. Interesting.
I'm literally autistic and I have a GF. Guessing most of fit are on the severe side
It has nothing to do with my physique. I'm just a shut-in super schizo autist. I'm too self-conscious about my chin to ever believe a woman would really want me and the thought of rejection gives me nightmares
>most of THIS board
You answered your own question.
Women are impressed with most men who aren't overweight
>roiding for that
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA
Very true. If a girl has insta or tiktok she will never be satisfied with a natty, how could she