Yes... In the sense that if the bar you have access weight significantly less than a standard bar, don't go around saying you lift X amount of plates because it would be a lie. For lifting purposes it doesn't matter
No you fricking moron. You’d have to go up a hill backwards in a truck for you to weigh 2 tonnenenes. It’s like you know nothing angles of attack and the viscosity of gravity distribution in a heliocentric concrete hellscape.
So when I'm lifting the plates I'm actually lifting nothing? And you put nothing on nothing, so in the end you never lifted anything, it was all an illusion, wake up and take the astralpill
Actually it doesnt matter what these morons think, you can count the bar or not, in the end it comes down to the fact that every competitive weightlifting sport, either olympic or powerlifting, includes bar weight and this should be the end of it
no because you are not lifting the bar. you are lifting the weights attached to the end of the bar. you just simply grab and hold the bar, it doesnt weigh anything its the WEIGHTS that weigh.
Yes you count the bar. Just make sure you know what it weighs. When people 1pl8 being 135lbs that's because the standard bar 45lbs, then the two 45lb plates being the additional 90.
These threads continuing to show up and not be ridiculed is proof that this place is full of nitwits. This isn't up for debate. The only people who don't count that bar are noobs and people trying to make others think they're stronger than them.
An entire 30 lb dumbbell weighs 30 lbs. It isn't just 30 lbs in the ends with the handle not counted. Why shouldn't you count the 45 lb barbell as weight you're lifting if you're doing a standard barbell movement? You're lifting it so it counts.
If you hand carry the empty bar you're carrying 45lbs of course you count the weight of that shit
Throw the entire one pl8 of barbell and it hits a grandma then on newspaper it's going to say "local twink homosexual threw 135lbs of barbell at poor granny" and not "local twink homosexual threw 90lbs of barbell at poor granny"
yeah dont you measure the weight of the bar before every lift? wtf is wrong with you guys. only dyels count the fricking bar. just think for a second. wouldnt the weight of the bar be written on it like every fricking weight ever if it mattered? do you count the 2 lbs bar on a dumbell as well? do you count the weight of the cable and the grip when doing cable rows? ffs i hate newbies. youre not impressing anyone by israeliteing an extra few pounds on your lifts if anything youre setting yourself up for exposing yourself as an dyel larper.
I take this as a joke, but for the poor unfortunate noobies here: This comment is moronic. You don't have to "measure" what the bar weighs. By default, it's either 45 lbs or 20 kg. Women's bars are 35 lbs or 15 kg. Decent-quality olympic-style (50mm/2" sleeve diameter) barbells usually say what the bar weighs on the end cap. It always says what the bar weighs where you buy it.
This joke isn't very funny, and if it weren't a joke, saying something like this doesn't deserve any argumentation. This is a time waster. Just point and laugh, if it's worth your time.
dont listen to this troll. you dont want to be the gay asking if the bar youre using is mens or womens lmao. or looking for a weight on the end of it or measuring the diameter lol. ffs what will humiliating these newbies help you.
Yes... In the sense that if the bar you have access weight significantly less than a standard bar, don't go around saying you lift X amount of plates because it would be a lie. For lifting purposes it doesn't matter
If you lift the bar with zero plates on it, you're lifting 45lbs.
I thought the bar was only 25lbs
Depends on the bar. Most full-size 1" (one inch) bars are in that range (6-8 feet, 7 most common as far as I know). 2" (two inch) Olympic bars are 45
I have never seen a 25 pound bar
because the bar is holding the weight you subtract the weight of the bar from your total
so when your truck is driving up a hill with 2 tonnes in the back, you weigh 2 tonnes, right?
You're not carrying the truck you dumb Black person
You legitimately have a mental defect.
No you fricking moron. You’d have to go up a hill backwards in a truck for you to weigh 2 tonnenenes. It’s like you know nothing angles of attack and the viscosity of gravity distribution in a heliocentric concrete hellscape.
>20kg bar
>add a 5kg plate on each side
>total weight is now -10kg
>bar floats off into space
yes this is how moronic the le heckin epic bar doesn't count posters who don't actually lift
Anybody who tells you not to count the weight of the bar is a moron you shouldnt listen too
Yes. You say (for example) 4 plates. Not 4 plates and a bar. That would be reatded. 80kg bench? A plate and a half bench.
>reatded
This is your brain on gear
ok what do you say then, mr. know it all?
Only if you are lifting the bar.
you fricking always include the weight of the bar.
WHy is this even a thing. It has been this way for 40+ yrs.
the bar weighs 45lbs. You add two 45lb plates and you are lifting 135.
That never changes.
Stop asking these stupid ass fricking questions.
moron "back in my day" boomer
>the bar weighs 45lbs.
I have a home gym and the bar is shorter than the bars I remember at the gym.
Weight it then
weight plates are calculated with the bar in mind anon
"the plates lifted it off the ground. Holy frick you are a troll.
empty bar? no
loaded bar? yes
So when I'm lifting the plates I'm actually lifting nothing? And you put nothing on nothing, so in the end you never lifted anything, it was all an illusion, wake up and take the astralpill
Also your weight factors in so if you weigh 200lbs and lift 145lbs you are actually lifting negative weight, moron.
bar doesn't have any weight. Lifting 1 bar is the same as lifting 100 bars
Actually it doesnt matter what these morons think, you can count the bar or not, in the end it comes down to the fact that every competitive weightlifting sport, either olympic or powerlifting, includes bar weight and this should be the end of it
no because you are not lifting the bar. you are lifting the weights attached to the end of the bar. you just simply grab and hold the bar, it doesnt weigh anything its the WEIGHTS that weigh.
Yes you count the bar. Just make sure you know what it weighs. When people 1pl8 being 135lbs that's because the standard bar 45lbs, then the two 45lb plates being the additional 90.
What a fricking prime bait thread
Thank you OP (unless you really are moronic enough to ask this question)
the bar counts and i also count the % of my body above the bar
>2023
>still thinking you count the bar
moronic roided zoomer
Only counts for Strength PR's
Very important thread
Do you lift the bar homosexual
Do you count your bodyweight when you squat?
That's why it's called a weighted squat...
Count about 3/4 of your bodyweight, but I can't remember where I read this, maybe Power: a Scientific Approach by Dr. Squat, Fred Hatfield.
>citation
exrx enjoyer too, I see?
77.1% from my research, but I just use 3/4 for offhand calculations. Makes it easier since I'm not microplating or weight cycling.
My gym replaced their bars with heavier bars on some of the smiths and I think it helped me by tricking me into lifting more.
No, anyone who tells you the opposite if a homosexual DYEL coping
It depends on the lift. It doesn't count when squatting because the bar rests on your shoulders.
what bro logic is this? The weights rest on your shoulders too you homosexual.
These threads continuing to show up and not be ridiculed is proof that this place is full of nitwits. This isn't up for debate. The only people who don't count that bar are noobs and people trying to make others think they're stronger than them.
An entire 30 lb dumbbell weighs 30 lbs. It isn't just 30 lbs in the ends with the handle not counted. Why shouldn't you count the 45 lb barbell as weight you're lifting if you're doing a standard barbell movement? You're lifting it so it counts.
I'm going to kill the next person who starts this shitty thread up again. I will fricking find you.
If you hand carry the empty bar you're carrying 45lbs of course you count the weight of that shit
Throw the entire one pl8 of barbell and it hits a grandma then on newspaper it's going to say "local twink homosexual threw 135lbs of barbell at poor granny" and not "local twink homosexual threw 90lbs of barbell at poor granny"
Gosh IST is the dumbest board
You divide the bars weight by the two plates and that is your PR.
yeah dont you measure the weight of the bar before every lift? wtf is wrong with you guys. only dyels count the fricking bar. just think for a second. wouldnt the weight of the bar be written on it like every fricking weight ever if it mattered? do you count the 2 lbs bar on a dumbell as well? do you count the weight of the cable and the grip when doing cable rows? ffs i hate newbies. youre not impressing anyone by israeliteing an extra few pounds on your lifts if anything youre setting yourself up for exposing yourself as an dyel larper.
bro the bar is always counted you are such a dumbass
Preach brother
I take this as a joke, but for the poor unfortunate noobies here: This comment is moronic. You don't have to "measure" what the bar weighs. By default, it's either 45 lbs or 20 kg. Women's bars are 35 lbs or 15 kg. Decent-quality olympic-style (50mm/2" sleeve diameter) barbells usually say what the bar weighs on the end cap. It always says what the bar weighs where you buy it.
This joke isn't very funny, and if it weren't a joke, saying something like this doesn't deserve any argumentation. This is a time waster. Just point and laugh, if it's worth your time.
dont listen to this troll. you dont want to be the gay asking if the bar youre using is mens or womens lmao. or looking for a weight on the end of it or measuring the diameter lol. ffs what will humiliating these newbies help you.
So it's ok for me to drop a barbell on your toes, cause it weighs nothing and thus you won't feel it, right?
no, you are a gay
>Preach brother
seething bar counters
embarrassing
This is so cringe. The joke isn’t funny.
a wojak poster who doesn't lift wrote some shit nobody cares about kek
>normal barbell weights nothing
>women's barbell weights -20 lbs
>tie 10 women's barbell together and float away
later nerds
who rewards you for not counting the weight of the bar? and why do you rely on that reward?
Yes because basically everyone counts the bar and you're just underselling yourself by not
If you lift 2pl8s, that doesn't include the bar.
As far I know, the bar does have mass and is affected by gravity, so yes
As an engineer it gives me brain damage the way people here try to justify not counting the bar