>theres no such thing as one cycle, once you start you cant stop!

>there’s no such thing as one cycle, once you start you can’t stop!

Who peddles this fallacy? Do people not have self restraint. It’s as easy as throwing all your shit out and not spending any more money.

That being said, what’s the best cycle to just get a taste.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deez nuts in your mouth

    Gotem

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    20 and want to pin. What do

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      get bigger naturally first
      you're going to lose most of your gains after, so might as well have a good base to fall back on

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I highly recommend waiting until you're at least 25 so your brain fully develops first. I also recommend maxing out your natty potential and really having your diet and training dialed in before you take gear.
      Why? Because you only have so many blasts that you can do before something forces you to stop. So you might as well make the most of them.
      If you're going to ignore that advice and pin anyway, take moderate doses, I would even start at 250mg/ week of test instead of the usual 500 so that you build muscle slower and keep side effects lower/ nonexistent

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >waiting until you're at least 25 so your brain fully develops first. I also recommend maxing out your natty potential
        >I would even start at 250mg
        have a nice day.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Start now. Anyone telling you to wait is a crab in the bucket who wants you to waste your 20s "paying your dues".

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why should I not do test if I’m gonna do it later in life when my test naturally drops

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because you'll have to keep pinning for 60 years instead of just 20. And it damages your health, TRT is only has more pros than cons if you have non-functioning balls
      Also it's anti-masculine in a way, you give up your naturally produced hormones for some injection. Just gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nattycel afraid of needles cope

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.
          post body

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you'll have to keep pinning for 60 years
        holy moly, the whole “you have to be on trt forever” meme

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not absolute, but almost no one does just one cycle. Steroids are addictive, you get a little taste of the easy gains and then you want more.
    Also you'll lose all your steroid gains if you stop completely, so another reason why "no one does just one cycle"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you dont lose all your gains retard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True until
        >lose all of your gains
        Only if you go beyond peak natty, eat like shit, don't sleep, don't train and don't prepare at all for coming off.
        You'll feel smaller, because your glycogen and water stores are slightly reduced, but your muscle remains.

        Proofs? I know this guy who quit steroids because his heart was going to explode and it was like he was pissing away his gains
        He looks DYEL nowdays.
        But I guess he didn't just do one cycle, he did many with heavier things than test

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're going to struggle to find proof because everyone lies all of the time, especially anyone and anything official.
          Believe us or don't, but why would you magically lose muscle if it's still within a range you could have developed naturally?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but why would you magically lose muscle if it's still within a range you could have developed naturally
            Because the hormonal enverionment that allowed it to grow the muscle is gone. You may be within muscle mass that is achievable naturally, but you didn't put in all the work that a natural would have to build it - so there's a difference
            Steroids are like injecting training, and if you're natural and stop training your muscle also goes away.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You have to stop training for a very long time for your muscle to go away normally, and even then it comes back almost immediately upon resuming training.
              Steroids don't give you inflateable muscles, they give you real muscle moderately faster.
              As long as you don't stop training as soon as you come off your cycle, as well as eat and sleep properly, the only real differences will be how big you "look" when your water and glycogen stores are slightly reduced and the pace of your future progress.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >but you didn't put in all the work that a natural would have to build it - so there's a difference
              No there isn't. Muscle is muscle. The end.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's possible to lose neglible gains with a really on point PCT and protocol assuming you just did a few cycles and didn't leave humanity behind

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also that's just a known fact so don't go asking me for proof that the sky is up. I'm not shilling secret knowledge here

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Idk why everyone talks with authority when there’s no rule to this shit some studies are showing that PCT doesn’t do anything and even suggesting it might be a bad thing. Ultimately nobody knows shit, the echo chamber of online armchair endocrinologists changes direction every year. You might lose all your gains, you might not. You might respond well, you might barely respond without blasting tren into your nuts with a hose. You might die. You might live to 95. Nobody fucking knows. What we do know is that barely anyone who does gear does one cycle but every single day there’s 10 newfags who think they’re the first to think they can do just one cycle. It’s injecting random shit into your body. It might not be heroin but there’s never gonna be a ‘sage’ way to do it beyond legal medically monitored TRT and even that’s not risk free. Not a single person ever did heroin for the first time with the intention of becoming a soulless junkie

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He looks dyel because he doesn't actually lift and eat anymore. Also, the natty limit is pretty unimpressive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True until
      >lose all of your gains
      Only if you go beyond peak natty, eat like shit, don't sleep, don't train and don't prepare at all for coming off.
      You'll feel smaller, because your glycogen and water stores are slightly reduced, but your muscle remains.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Steroids are addictive
      you know I’d like to do more, but ehhh I could do my second cycle then be done forever. Heck, I could not even do this one tbh
      >lose all your gains
      but… I kept all my gains

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Steroids are to IST what shitcoins are to IST, you taste instant satisfaction initially only to fall deeper and deeper chasing that high.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2 apt

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s kind of like microtransaxations in a video game

    Yes you can buy one thing and be done, most people who buy once keep justifying it though, especially when the rewards are huge.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The simplest way to disprove a claim is by a counterexample. Can you find anyone who only did one cycle, and it wasn't because the sides were unbearable?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just doing one is dumb as fuck you really have just messed yourself up for nothing, if you want to do steroids you should commit to it and not just do it to look a little better for 3 months and have to recover your hormones for the next year. the only reason to do that is literally just cause your too impatient to make progress natty you wont pass your natty limit like this if you want to go beyond what is possible you have to commit to it.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because the gains arent loyal you fucking retard, you can't just do one cycle and reach ur natty peak in 3 months and maintain that for the rest of your life.

    every single roidchud i know looks completely natural after they "permanently" stopped. and i mean natural to a point before they started pinning, if not worse. not fake natty tier. why does this happen? i don't have the scientific formula for it but your body cant just hold on to that roid muscle you gained so quickly without outside help. and a lot of it is actually just water and strength and "look". you get the 3d delts but when you are not on gear anymore you dont have that gear look.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >every single roidchud i know looks completely natural after they "permanently" stopped
      So they went natty and look natty. Crazy stuff.
      >roid muscle you gained so quickly without outside help
      Yes you can, as long as it isn't beyond natty limit. I think the issue here is you don't realize what the natty limit looks like. It's not a lot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes you can, as long as it isn't beyond natty limit. I think the issue here is you don't realize what the natty limit looks like. It's not a lot.
        muscle built with anything other than exercise and diet isn't maintained with exercise and diet alone
        your muscles are at a constant struggle to maintain themselves and if roids were required to reach your "natty limit" guess what you're not gonna be at your "natty limit" once you get off steroids, because such theoretical limit is arbitrary and all that matters is that whole day-week-month-year long muscle protein synthesis is gonna be lower once you get off the roids and you will lose muscle over time slowly but surely and there's not a fucking thing you can do to stop it other than get back on whatever it is you were taking

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cope more roidsimp

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon, you seem heavily retarded so I'll explain further. The upper limit of natty is about 25 FFMI. Though even that's only for the small minority that have the capability of getting there. A more typical limit would be about 23 FFMI. A 5' 10" guy would be 180lbs at 12% bodyfat at 23 FFMI. Let's say this person roided up to 200lbs then came off. He would lose mass back down to his natty limit of 180lbs.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're so profoundly stupid.

    Go ahead, use steroids "in moderation", you fucking spastic.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >do one cycle
    >move in with gf
    >can't do another cycle or even cruise
    PCT was brutal but it's okay now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cuck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why? why can't you? Are you her literal slave?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because when you do a cycle you realize it's not a big deal at all and don't see any actual reason to not continue. Also, you won't get huge off one cycle and everyone wants to be huge.

    First cycle should be 12 weeks 500mg test per week. Simple, straight forward and will get you gains.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think ill start my first cycle in couple of months or after a cut next time around August.
    Going with just test, seems logical and straightforward enough.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    roidtrannies would rather look fit than be fit. They will be mocked forever on earth and in the hall of ancestors

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