SS is for beginners to max out CNS gains and get some noob hypertrophy at the same time before they move onto an intermediate program where they will indeed do ten rep sets with (relatively) light weights (but heavier than they would be if CNS gains had not been maxed first).
you have no idea what you're talking about. There is no mechanism for light weights to drive hypertrophy since they don't present a stress strong enough to disrupt homeostasis. Getting a pump is not hypertrophy.
b***h he gave me a herniated disc and made me fat with a big butt.
You made yourself fat
5 months ago
Anonymous
Final set of the advanced novice phase. Only gained 10lbs bw up to 215. 15% bf. Starting Strength works and people who don't like it are genetic dead ends and weak.
5 months ago
Anonymous
you're 215 and 15% bf? measured?
5 months ago
Anonymous
yes, measured
5 months ago
Anonymous
yeah fricking right Black person, measured by posting your butthole on /soc/?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Autistic screeching can be directed towards /lgbt/. Your screech will be answered in the order it is received.
5 months ago
Anonymous
you check /lgbt/ often huh
5 months ago
Anonymous
>fat t-rex chinkcel calling other people genetic dead ends
lmao
5 months ago
Anonymous
1. not a chink
2. you're mad
3. you have never lifted 405lbs in any lift
4. tears streamed down your face as you typed this
5 months ago
Anonymous
are you saying you got to that squat doing SS without changing routine?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes.
5 months ago
Anonymous
no stalling, just LP all the way to 5pl8? and you only gained 10 lbs? how long did it take?
5 months ago
Anonymous
9 months
5 months ago
Anonymous
what did you squat on day one?
5 months ago
Anonymous
315x5x3, but I was a bit detrained. I had squatted 405 previously, for one rep.
5 months ago
Anonymous
why start SS if you could already squat 300 lbs? what did you do before that?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I played sports. Football and wrestling. I did the program because I could squat 405x1, not 520x5.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>person with good genetics for strength sports discovers that training methodologies don't actually matter as long as you work hard (and have good genetics)
really makes you think
5 months ago
Anonymous
If you’re only 15% bodyfat why do you look like dogshit?
5 months ago
Anonymous
You look like a soggy bag of milk and you’re getting mad at random people on IST. You’re the genetic dead end lol
5 months ago
Anonymous
If you’re only 15% bodyfat why do you look like dogshit?
>blurry video from 20 feet away you can tell how you look
post lifts and body so I can laugh
5 months ago
Anonymous
holy shit
5 months ago
Anonymous
no HE did it. HE told ME to EAT 4500 CALORIES A DAY WITH HALF OF THOSE CALORIES FROM WHOLE MILK
5 months ago
Anonymous
>4500 CALORIES A DAY
What is your bw? If what you say is true then you should say the right number
>There is no mechanism for light weights to drive hypertrophy since they don't present a stress strong enough to disrupt homeostasis
So if I take my squat from 140kg x 10 to 220kg x 10, I gained no muscle? Dafaq?
>There is no mechanism for light weights to drive hypertrophy since they don't present a stress strong enough to disrupt homeostasis
So if I take my squat from 140kg x 10 to 220kg x 10, I gained no muscle? Dafaq?
Good luck doing that doing LP 3x10.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Good luck doing that doing LP 3x10.
Yeah no shit you can't linearly progress at that point without getting fat, you are supposed to use other progression schemes to keep progress going. LP does not work forever, because if it did we would all squat 500+ kg after 200 weeks of adding 5lb to the bar. But you can just move over to other progression schemes and keep progressing, and over time you will add significant amounts of weight to your lifts. It just takes longer since you're no longer a novice, that's all. LP is simply the fastest and most straight-forward progression scheme there is, which makes it ideal for novices, but garbage for everybody else because intermediates and beyond cannot add 5lb to the bar every week.
5 months ago
Anonymous
my point is that 5s are better for lp than 10s. You absolutely can LP to over 500x5, I just proved it
5 months ago
Anonymous
140kg isn’t light and you think it is you need to get out of the IST bubble.
5 months ago
Anonymous
308lbs is early novice phase for anyone who left their couch. 405 is "they've seen a gym," 500 is "he lifts," 550 is pretty strong, 600 is "know what he's doing." Beyond that they're probably on roids.
5 months ago
Anonymous
! you must be so strong !
5 months ago
Anonymous
see
Final set of the advanced novice phase. Only gained 10lbs bw up to 215. 15% bf. Starting Strength works and people who don't like it are genetic dead ends and weak.
5 months ago
Anonymous
good shit, anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
308 isn't really heavy but it's certainly not early novice unless you're like 400 pounds
gains are purely determined by reaching failure or very close to failure below 35 reps. 1-5 has certain adaptations, mainly training the neurological system to be able to recruit muscles better. 6-35 have different adaptations. Anything between 6 and 35 is exactly the same as long as you reach failure or get very close. I know you're a moron and don't know any of this though, so I expect nothing but moronation in response
> Anything between 6 and 35 is exactly the same as long as you reach failure or get very close.
No one on this board can take a 35 rep set to true failure though, and if you do you’re gonna snap your shit up
You would still require some sort of high intensity workout. You can't just do volume for the entire week and expect to even have any progress on the next week.
Nobody said anything about only doing volume work. I said intermediate strength routines include volume work.
Final set of the advanced novice phase. Only gained 10lbs bw up to 215. 15% bf. Starting Strength works and people who don't like it are genetic dead ends and weak.
>Nobody said anything about only doing volume work >SS is for maxing out CNS gains
Your first sentence literally implies you can't go higher and that you would have to switch to high volume at light weights. Then you continue to argue with the other anon about how volume is the only driving force for progress afterwards.
Just admit you never worked out
did you just learn about the nervous system? You sound like a child who just learned a new word. Starting Strength just builds a base. Learning the compounds and getting strong enough to start some dedicated lifting. I don't know what you think "maxing out CNS gains" is, but it sounds moronic.
Well it's simple anon, the nervous system is what tells muscles to contract and in untrained people it isn't very good at doing that forcefully. CNS gains = your nervous system learning to recruit more motor units (that is a bundle of muscle cells attached to a nerve ending that contract together when the nerve fires) and to send more forceful signals without getting fatigued (one pulse makes the muscle twitch i.e. contract and then immediately relax; for the muscle to keep contracting it has to receive multiple pulses and this drains the nerve of energy).
It's always funny when you simplify things for midwits and it makes them think they know better.
SS is for beginners to max out CNS gains and get some noob hypertrophy at the same time before they move onto an intermediate program where they will indeed do ten rep sets with (relatively) light weights (but heavier than they would be if CNS gains had not been maxed first).
what if you actually want to look like you lift after finishing your begginer program? do you have to do strength routine with low reps?
increasing strength in 10 rep range doesn't count? are perceived gains with high reps subjective?
Not really sure what you're asking. After SS if you want to continue strength training you would normally do something that mixes volume and intensity like 5/3/1 BBB.
what if you are satisfied with current strength level and want to focus on "hypertrophy" - volume training, is there non moronic program? there are dozens for strength.
I think people who want that usually do the same lifts as powerlifters but at higher rep ranges, and use double progression (increase reps e.g. from 5 to 10, then increase the weight and start again at 5 reps)
skinny dudes misrepresent how much they eat so you have to yell at them. He's probably got a feeder fetish so that sets him up to be the man for the job of screaming at skeletons about drinking milk.
Everyone misses the most important part when he breaks down form and talks about reducing lever arms throughout movements. Program how you want but his fundamental form coaching is gold
Just hop on a bodybuilding program it's not like SS is the only way to get strong. In fact majority of gym goers do brosplits and they look good AND are strong. Unless you wanna be a powerlifter, and you know what they look like.
Rippeote is 85% right, and 100% better than the morons who think 3x10 with light weights will save them.
SS is for beginners to max out CNS gains and get some noob hypertrophy at the same time before they move onto an intermediate program where they will indeed do ten rep sets with (relatively) light weights (but heavier than they would be if CNS gains had not been maxed first).
you have no idea what you're talking about. There is no mechanism for light weights to drive hypertrophy since they don't present a stress strong enough to disrupt homeostasis. Getting a pump is not hypertrophy.
When you say light weights what are you talking about? I assumed 10 reps at RPE7-10.
>RPE
LMAO. time for you to post squat
no u
You made yourself fat
Final set of the advanced novice phase. Only gained 10lbs bw up to 215. 15% bf. Starting Strength works and people who don't like it are genetic dead ends and weak.
you're 215 and 15% bf? measured?
yes, measured
yeah fricking right Black person, measured by posting your butthole on /soc/?
Autistic screeching can be directed towards /lgbt/. Your screech will be answered in the order it is received.
you check /lgbt/ often huh
>fat t-rex chinkcel calling other people genetic dead ends
lmao
1. not a chink
2. you're mad
3. you have never lifted 405lbs in any lift
4. tears streamed down your face as you typed this
are you saying you got to that squat doing SS without changing routine?
Yes.
no stalling, just LP all the way to 5pl8? and you only gained 10 lbs? how long did it take?
9 months
what did you squat on day one?
315x5x3, but I was a bit detrained. I had squatted 405 previously, for one rep.
why start SS if you could already squat 300 lbs? what did you do before that?
I played sports. Football and wrestling. I did the program because I could squat 405x1, not 520x5.
>person with good genetics for strength sports discovers that training methodologies don't actually matter as long as you work hard (and have good genetics)
really makes you think
If you’re only 15% bodyfat why do you look like dogshit?
You look like a soggy bag of milk and you’re getting mad at random people on IST. You’re the genetic dead end lol
>blurry video from 20 feet away you can tell how you look
post lifts and body so I can laugh
holy shit
no HE did it. HE told ME to EAT 4500 CALORIES A DAY WITH HALF OF THOSE CALORIES FROM WHOLE MILK
>4500 CALORIES A DAY
What is your bw? If what you say is true then you should say the right number
I started out at 70kg and i ended up at 104kg.
>There is no mechanism for light weights to drive hypertrophy since they don't present a stress strong enough to disrupt homeostasis
So if I take my squat from 140kg x 10 to 220kg x 10, I gained no muscle? Dafaq?
140kg isn’t light
Yes it is.
Good luck doing that doing LP 3x10.
>Good luck doing that doing LP 3x10.
Yeah no shit you can't linearly progress at that point without getting fat, you are supposed to use other progression schemes to keep progress going. LP does not work forever, because if it did we would all squat 500+ kg after 200 weeks of adding 5lb to the bar. But you can just move over to other progression schemes and keep progressing, and over time you will add significant amounts of weight to your lifts. It just takes longer since you're no longer a novice, that's all. LP is simply the fastest and most straight-forward progression scheme there is, which makes it ideal for novices, but garbage for everybody else because intermediates and beyond cannot add 5lb to the bar every week.
my point is that 5s are better for lp than 10s. You absolutely can LP to over 500x5, I just proved it
140kg isn’t light and you think it is you need to get out of the IST bubble.
308lbs is early novice phase for anyone who left their couch. 405 is "they've seen a gym," 500 is "he lifts," 550 is pretty strong, 600 is "know what he's doing." Beyond that they're probably on roids.
! you must be so strong !
see
good shit, anon.
308 isn't really heavy but it's certainly not early novice unless you're like 400 pounds
gains are purely determined by reaching failure or very close to failure below 35 reps. 1-5 has certain adaptations, mainly training the neurological system to be able to recruit muscles better. 6-35 have different adaptations. Anything between 6 and 35 is exactly the same as long as you reach failure or get very close. I know you're a moron and don't know any of this though, so I expect nothing but moronation in response
>6-35 are the exact same
No, you've produced enough moronation for the thread, I'll just admire.
>When midwits read about a study once
> Anything between 6 and 35 is exactly the same as long as you reach failure or get very close.
No one on this board can take a 35 rep set to true failure though, and if you do you’re gonna snap your shit up
You would still require some sort of high intensity workout. You can't just do volume for the entire week and expect to even have any progress on the next week.
Nobody said anything about only doing volume work. I said intermediate strength routines include volume work.
Nobody said SS didn't work.
I accept your concession. You've been DUDEwiped.
>Nobody said anything about only doing volume work
>SS is for maxing out CNS gains
Your first sentence literally implies you can't go higher and that you would have to switch to high volume at light weights. Then you continue to argue with the other anon about how volume is the only driving force for progress afterwards.
Just admit you never worked out
You made all of that up
Oh that was pretty cute. When the bell rings, get back to algebra 1
OK schizo
>trying this hard
>living in fantasy world where people say things they didn't really say and you smack them down with your Cheeto dust covered keyboard
>still trying this hard
OK schizo
>trying this hard STILL
>trying hard is bad
>typing less is trying harder
gay
>STILL trying this hard
>schizo keeps saying the same thing until he "wins"
Let's see who runs out of reaction pics first
did you just learn about the nervous system? You sound like a child who just learned a new word. Starting Strength just builds a base. Learning the compounds and getting strong enough to start some dedicated lifting. I don't know what you think "maxing out CNS gains" is, but it sounds moronic.
Well it's simple anon, the nervous system is what tells muscles to contract and in untrained people it isn't very good at doing that forcefully. CNS gains = your nervous system learning to recruit more motor units (that is a bundle of muscle cells attached to a nerve ending that contract together when the nerve fires) and to send more forceful signals without getting fatigued (one pulse makes the muscle twitch i.e. contract and then immediately relax; for the muscle to keep contracting it has to receive multiple pulses and this drains the nerve of energy).
It's always funny when you simplify things for midwits and it makes them think they know better.
The nervous system isn't adaptable or trainable.
At least not yours. Fun fact: the brain is part of your nervous system. Could even say it's the core.
what if you actually want to look like you lift after finishing your begginer program? do you have to do strength routine with low reps?
increasing strength in 10 rep range doesn't count? are perceived gains with high reps subjective?
Not really sure what you're asking. After SS if you want to continue strength training you would normally do something that mixes volume and intensity like 5/3/1 BBB.
what if you are satisfied with current strength level and want to focus on "hypertrophy" - volume training, is there non moronic program? there are dozens for strength.
I think people who want that usually do the same lifts as powerlifters but at higher rep ranges, and use double progression (increase reps e.g. from 5 to 10, then increase the weight and start again at 5 reps)
looking good is diet, strength is program. Do as many compound lifts as you are willing to learn.
Protip: this includes olympic lifts
this. Detractors don't lift, ever. Simple as.
Most of what he’s wrong about is just his borderline feeder fetish
skinny dudes misrepresent how much they eat so you have to yell at them. He's probably got a feeder fetish so that sets him up to be the man for the job of screaming at skeletons about drinking milk.
b***h he gave me a herniated disc and made me fat with a big butt.
Everyone misses the most important part when he breaks down form and talks about reducing lever arms throughout movements. Program how you want but his fundamental form coaching is gold
>say something factual
>moronic shitskins contradict me
>explain it to them
>they vanish
Why does this happen so much on this board
Shitskins get uppity when the White man is too nice.
>jews were immortal before hitler
>immortality
I had a dream I was in his gym in witchita fall and Old Time Rock and Roll started playing as he danced like Hitler in that gif
?si=b_ElhXgmZpsJFgwI
Just hop on a bodybuilding program it's not like SS is the only way to get strong. In fact majority of gym goers do brosplits and they look good AND are strong. Unless you wanna be a powerlifter, and you know what they look like.
>In fact majority of gym goers do brosplits and they look good AND are strong
Have you ever actually been in a gym?