moron. Spinal flexion and extension are natural movements of the spine, you are literally meant to be able to get into this position. As long as you're braced and don't have excessive lowerback rounding you should be fine. Your spine can deal with compressive forces just fine.
>Spinal flexion and extension are natural movements of the spine, you are literally meant to be able to get into this position
Yes, but not under heavy load in an unstable position like this.
>As long as you're braced and don't have excessive lowerback rounding you should be fine.
Are you blind? Are we looking at the same pictures here? The lower back is hyperextended to the highest degree possible.
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>Yes but not under heavy load in an unstable position
They're braced, it's not unstable. And they worked up to a heavy load. They did proper load management.
no, the reason was that they had a "no excessive layback" rule which soviet judges abused to redlight western lifters
the easier solution would be to remove this rule
1. It's a lift a training the shoulders and triceps, while using abdominal and glute bracing, leaning back starts to ruin that goal. I guess you could make an argument that leaning back to engage some of your chest makes it "better" because more muscles getting work = more better. But there are superior exercises if that is your goal. And honestly if you're leaning back that much to get the weight up, you're just not strong enough.
2. The spirit of the exercise, I'll admit this is maybe a larping argument but I just think it looks like shit. It's kind of like how powersharters stick to the "uh technically my moronic arch and 2mm ROM is within the rules." Okay fine, but if you were just strong enough in the required areas for the lift you would need all that "technique" to get it done. Sure some slight leaning is expected on max effort but if your eye line is now at the ceiling you have fricked up.
Let's be honest, the spirit of the exercise is reason enough. It's an overhead press, not an overchest press. When we imagine the platonic form of the overhead press it does not involve this kind of ridiculous arch.
you use momentum to put speed on the bar instead of using ur muscles.
1/ unrack the bar
2/ brace ur self and lay back, creating 6"+ of separation
3/ dive bomb the bar into ur chest
4/ catch the bounce and squeeze through with ur glutes
the standing bench press?
That's actually a good name for it "standing bench press".
Needs an entry in the encyclopedia
Standing incline press actually
>press
they barely press the weight though. most of it is bouncing it with their hips and dropping under it
It was in Oly lifting too before they removed it
it is
what's wrong with it?
They're stronger than OP so it's bad
>destrories you're spine
how so? do you know any examples of people who have hurt their back from doing this?
you need an example? spines aren't supposed to be in this position
Post you're strict press
post your wiener
I get enough bans from jaBlack folk for posts I don't make
moron. Spinal flexion and extension are natural movements of the spine, you are literally meant to be able to get into this position. As long as you're braced and don't have excessive lowerback rounding you should be fine. Your spine can deal with compressive forces just fine.
>Spinal flexion and extension are natural movements of the spine, you are literally meant to be able to get into this position
Yes, but not under heavy load in an unstable position like this.
>As long as you're braced and don't have excessive lowerback rounding you should be fine.
Are you blind? Are we looking at the same pictures here? The lower back is hyperextended to the highest degree possible.
>Yes but not under heavy load in an unstable position
They're braced, it's not unstable. And they worked up to a heavy load. They did proper load management.
Ya you are right, the spine loves to be compressed when at 90 degree angle. I pray for your discs
Don't worry about him. He'd have to lift heavy for his discs to be in danger.
Post body fear mongerer. Bet you think deadlifts are too dangerous
this homosexual really wants to jerk off to you
It wouldn't be compression at that angle, it would be a shearing force... Which would actually just be worse, but get it right.
WELL ACTUALLY it would be buckling force. wow get your forces right jeez
You dumbfrick, you can’t brace and create intra abdominal pressure with this spine position
I hope you are trolling. Otherwise stop lifting weights immediately and first learn things about spinal health before you touch a barbell again
yes
Just don't call it an OHP. This fallback bullshit was the reason the press was removed from the Olympics in the early 70s.
no, the reason was that they had a "no excessive layback" rule which soviet judges abused to redlight western lifters
the easier solution would be to remove this rule
Because with such a ridiculous layback (like shown above with ole Chase) it's no longer a shoulder press.
nooooooooo... you can't just press the weight overhead, you have to "shoulder press" it!
Cold war olympics were dirty as shit and yet they were definitely the best time for the olympics
I would break it down to 2 main things.
1. It's a lift a training the shoulders and triceps, while using abdominal and glute bracing, leaning back starts to ruin that goal. I guess you could make an argument that leaning back to engage some of your chest makes it "better" because more muscles getting work = more better. But there are superior exercises if that is your goal. And honestly if you're leaning back that much to get the weight up, you're just not strong enough.
2. The spirit of the exercise, I'll admit this is maybe a larping argument but I just think it looks like shit. It's kind of like how powersharters stick to the "uh technically my moronic arch and 2mm ROM is within the rules." Okay fine, but if you were just strong enough in the required areas for the lift you would need all that "technique" to get it done. Sure some slight leaning is expected on max effort but if your eye line is now at the ceiling you have fricked up.
Let's be honest, the spirit of the exercise is reason enough. It's an overhead press, not an overchest press. When we imagine the platonic form of the overhead press it does not involve this kind of ridiculous arch.
it's literally a fricking standing incline bench you moron. there is no "spirit" it's just shit and dangerous, especially for fat untrained female.
its not even an incline bench because you have to press the whole thing on an incline bench and can't bounce than drop under the bar a foot
Mad cuz shit ohp
you use momentum to put speed on the bar instead of using ur muscles.
1/ unrack the bar
2/ brace ur self and lay back, creating 6"+ of separation
3/ dive bomb the bar into ur chest
4/ catch the bounce and squeeze through with ur glutes
i would never listen to rippetoe for programming advice but this is simply optimal technique for a heavy OHP
Bench press with no bench
Lol why would you do this to your back, for no benefit no less
those are some heavy "kitchen shelfs are falling on me", impressive!
>Overhead rows
Olympic lifting too.
>Not doing standing bench press
NTGMI
I hate it when all the benches are taken as well
I literally can't do this without straining my neck and being tight and sore for days after. I have to keep the rom strictly vertical or else
It's not considered good form, it's considered a lot of weight