"However, this content is lower than that of cow's milk. Goat milk consists of about 4.20% lactose, while cow's milk contains almost 5%. Although it still contains a certain amount of lactose, evidence suggests that people with mild lactose intolerance can use goat's milk."
ill continue eating yogurt and cheese but yeah im 100% with you, milk also has tons of estrogen that's more bioavailable than onions, so people who drink milk but avoid onions genuinely are some of the dumbest frickers around
I think you are missing the point here, i don't give a crap how much estrogen is in plants. I'm not gonna consume that garbage anyway. It's just that op said there is a ton of estrogen in milk, when in fact, there is little of it in it.
There isn't a whole lot of estrogen in plants. Estrogenic isoflavone contents are very low in most legumes. With the exception of soi. Soi has an exponential amount of isoflavones more than the second highest isoflavone containing food, peas. Nobody is getting gyno from peas because nobody is chugging gallons of pea milk and peafu and peaburgers every day. But with soi, we're not talking gallons of milk, we're talking a liter. We're not talking about whole blocks of tofu, but a mere 10th of a kilogram
Ok so there are two graphs in this thread. One says there's 15ng per 8 ounces (around 250ml) of milk, the other says there's 15ng per 1ml. Which one is correct now?
Not that it matters, if the latter were correct a glass of milk would still only have 3750ng, which is literally nothing
5 months ago
Anonymous
So I just did some very rough calculations and a human male should have roughly 50,000 total nanograms of prolactin (5000ml of blood total x 10ng/ml of prolactin in blood).
One cup of milk having 3750ng means you're getting a 13% increase in prolactin per cup you drink assuming 100% of the prolactin in milk is absorbed (it's probably not 100% but it should be very high because milk is especially bioavailable). For reference you get a 30%-50% spike of prolactin from busting a nut.
So I'd say prolactin isnt a huge worry unless you're doing GOMAD, and it probably passes through your system pretty quickly. So the only worry would be if you're drinking a good amount of milk every day consistently.
One more thing to note, according to that pubmed study I posted, yogurt and cheese do not have nearly the same hormone content as whole milk.
Stop consuming vegan cult propaganda. >what do you think effects you
It would shock you to learnt that anabolic steroids are produced from plant sterols. It would shock you more that the overwhelming evidence of soi feminization is leading to multiple governments investigating to classify it as an endocrine disruptor. As little as 50mg of isoflavones per day can lengthen a woman's menstrual cycle. 50mg of isoflavones from soi can literally be just 2 glasses of soi milk. 50mg of isoflavones from other legumes like say peanuts would require something like 18 full jars of peanut butter, which is why soi is often singled out, as it contains more isoflavones than anything else on the planet.
weird >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/ >The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither onions foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11352776/ >We conclude that the phytoestrogen dose consumed had no effect on semen quality.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19819436/ >Consumption of onions protein of low or high isoflavone content does not adversely affect semen quality in a sample of healthy adult men.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20378106/ >The intervention data indicate that isoflavones do not exert feminizing effects on men at intake levels equal to and even considerably higher than are typical for Asian males.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30042516/ >These data suggest that, while isoflavones were detected in SPC, chronic WPC or SPC supplementation did not appreciably affect biomarkers related to muscle androgenic signaling or SQ estrogenic signaling. The noted fiber type-specific responses to WPC and SPC supplementation warrant future research.
>https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/132/3/570S/4687378 >The reported studies suggest that onions consumption exerts small effects on hormones in both men and premenopausal women. Although these effects are generally in a beneficial direction >beneficial direction
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35197681/ > Results obtained in this study provide additional evidence about the favourable effect of a plant-based diet on sperm parameters.
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916522105332?via%3Dihub >Primary food sources of phytoestrogens, including tofu, onions milk, whole grains, tea, and flaxseed, were also inversely associated with total mortality.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19480732/ >Isoflavone supplementation in healthy males may enhance cognitive processes which appear dependent on oestrogen activation.
and >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19496976/ >The present data on men and children indicate that estrogens in milk were absorbed, and gonadotropin secretion was suppressed, followed by a decrease in testosterone secretion. Sexual maturation of prepubertal children could be affected by the ordinary intake of cow milk.
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23670169/ > Full-fat dairy intake was also associated with significantly lower percent progressively motile sperm (P= 0.05).
>drinking milk, as my ancestors did for millennia
le baaaaaad >drinking soi milk, highly processed plant shit, consumed by Asians (built for superior white wiener)
le goooooood
I think something is AFFECTING you, or that you are AFFECTED because you don't know the difference between affect and effect. Rather like most anglos and thirdies.
This isn't about whether plants affect you or not, it's about one serving of milk containing approximately 1/10000th the amount of estrogen your body naturally produces in a day.
>ill continue eating yogurt and cheese but yeah im 100% with you, milk also has tons of estrogen
but yogurt and cheese are made from milk, and the estrogen is in the fat, so cheese will have higher estrogen than milk due to being concentrated in fat.
>implying modern cows produce anything like the milk prehistoric bovines used to nurture their young.
Selective breeding has created cow milk fit for humans.
we have dark days ahead of us now that Indians seem to fricking love israelites out of their mutual hatred of Mudslimes (Palestinians and Pakistanis)
the goodest goyim of the world are about to get quite a few shades browner
Reddit tier pop-racism. There are millions of le swarfs that can and do drink milk. You're literally no better than the black people that claim blacks did everything, in an effort to seem special. It just comes off as cringe and tryhard.
do you all drink basic regular pasteurized milk from the store or you drink only fancy milk from farmers that feed their cows with grass only? I can't find anything like that in my shithole
There's very little reason to drink unpasteurized milk tbh. Anons on this board seem to think that pasteurization is some arcane chemical procedure that completely changes milk's composition, but in reality, it just means that the milk is heated up slightly to kill bacteria before it is filled into bottles. From a nutritional standpoint, pasteurization changes almost nothing about the milk, since our stomach acid attacks the contents of milk we drink way more aggressively than slightly heating it up ever could. I haven't seen any convincing evidence to raw milk having any health benefits thus far. I'm open to being convince of the contrary, though.
Yeah? How'd that work out for sub-Saharan Africa?
they breed like rabbits and are talking over Europe. I'd say it worked out perfectly.
yeah, infesting slums and in desperate need for aid from the milk drinking white man is "talking over"
the problem is the moment Europe collapses, they all die as well because they are completely incapable of existing without the white man's help
They drink goats milk. It's less but not by much.
"However, this content is lower than that of cow's milk. Goat milk consists of about 4.20% lactose, while cow's milk contains almost 5%. Although it still contains a certain amount of lactose, evidence suggests that people with mild lactose intolerance can use goat's milk."
>1% is LE MUCH
I don't get your reddit meme.
You understand that to get from 4.2% to 5% there's about a 25% increase, right? I know you're American but at least don't be so obviously ignorant
no they dont moron. They dont even have animal husbandry you fricking geographically moronic moron.
what the frick are you talking about, they have goats in the maasai tribe idiot. Just google it.
Wrong board
Huh? Pretty sure the protein will be distributed to all your muscles and not just the calves, moron.
I dunno man, my calves are pretty juicy while my quads are weak.
>came to thread to make “calves” wordplay joke.
>these Black folk beat me to it
Thanks, Black folk.
can jannies please clean up the anti-milk troony threads pls
This is for Energy Storage not Humans.
Okay?
ill continue eating yogurt and cheese but yeah im 100% with you, milk also has tons of estrogen that's more bioavailable than onions, so people who drink milk but avoid onions genuinely are some of the dumbest frickers around
damn i didnt know you cant talk about sneed on here
>milk also has tons of estrogen
???
>what is plant estrogen compared to mammal estrogen
Which do you think effects you moron.
I think you are missing the point here, i don't give a crap how much estrogen is in plants. I'm not gonna consume that garbage anyway. It's just that op said there is a ton of estrogen in milk, when in fact, there is little of it in it.
There isn't a whole lot of estrogen in plants. Estrogenic isoflavone contents are very low in most legumes. With the exception of soi. Soi has an exponential amount of isoflavones more than the second highest isoflavone containing food, peas. Nobody is getting gyno from peas because nobody is chugging gallons of pea milk and peafu and peaburgers every day. But with soi, we're not talking gallons of milk, we're talking a liter. We're not talking about whole blocks of tofu, but a mere 10th of a kilogram
I think the 15ng in milk will have 0 effect on me considering I have 136000ng in my body right now
its 15ng PER MILLILITER, not 15ng overall, the average man has 20ng/ml in his blood
15ng/ml of prolactin not estrogen**
but prolactin is really bad for testosterone
table is from this
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524299/
Ok so there are two graphs in this thread. One says there's 15ng per 8 ounces (around 250ml) of milk, the other says there's 15ng per 1ml. Which one is correct now?
Not that it matters, if the latter were correct a glass of milk would still only have 3750ng, which is literally nothing
So I just did some very rough calculations and a human male should have roughly 50,000 total nanograms of prolactin (5000ml of blood total x 10ng/ml of prolactin in blood).
One cup of milk having 3750ng means you're getting a 13% increase in prolactin per cup you drink assuming 100% of the prolactin in milk is absorbed (it's probably not 100% but it should be very high because milk is especially bioavailable). For reference you get a 30%-50% spike of prolactin from busting a nut.
So I'd say prolactin isnt a huge worry unless you're doing GOMAD, and it probably passes through your system pretty quickly. So the only worry would be if you're drinking a good amount of milk every day consistently.
One more thing to note, according to that pubmed study I posted, yogurt and cheese do not have nearly the same hormone content as whole milk.
Stop consuming vegan cult propaganda.
>what do you think effects you
It would shock you to learnt that anabolic steroids are produced from plant sterols. It would shock you more that the overwhelming evidence of soi feminization is leading to multiple governments investigating to classify it as an endocrine disruptor. As little as 50mg of isoflavones per day can lengthen a woman's menstrual cycle. 50mg of isoflavones from soi can literally be just 2 glasses of soi milk. 50mg of isoflavones from other legumes like say peanuts would require something like 18 full jars of peanut butter, which is why soi is often singled out, as it contains more isoflavones than anything else on the planet.
How come there's not the same but opposite? A plant that gives u test
Raw onion
weird
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
>The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither onions foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11352776/
>We conclude that the phytoestrogen dose consumed had no effect on semen quality.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19819436/
>Consumption of onions protein of low or high isoflavone content does not adversely affect semen quality in a sample of healthy adult men.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20378106/
>The intervention data indicate that isoflavones do not exert feminizing effects on men at intake levels equal to and even considerably higher than are typical for Asian males.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30042516/
>These data suggest that, while isoflavones were detected in SPC, chronic WPC or SPC supplementation did not appreciably affect biomarkers related to muscle androgenic signaling or SQ estrogenic signaling. The noted fiber type-specific responses to WPC and SPC supplementation warrant future research.
>https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/132/3/570S/4687378
>The reported studies suggest that onions consumption exerts small effects on hormones in both men and premenopausal women. Although these effects are generally in a beneficial direction
>beneficial direction
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35197681/
> Results obtained in this study provide additional evidence about the favourable effect of a plant-based diet on sperm parameters.
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916522105332?via%3Dihub
>Primary food sources of phytoestrogens, including tofu, onions milk, whole grains, tea, and flaxseed, were also inversely associated with total mortality.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19480732/
>Isoflavone supplementation in healthy males may enhance cognitive processes which appear dependent on oestrogen activation.
and
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19496976/
>The present data on men and children indicate that estrogens in milk were absorbed, and gonadotropin secretion was suppressed, followed by a decrease in testosterone secretion. Sexual maturation of prepubertal children could be affected by the ordinary intake of cow milk.
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23670169/
> Full-fat dairy intake was also associated with significantly lower percent progressively motile sperm (P= 0.05).
>drinking milk, as my ancestors did for millennia
le baaaaaad
>drinking soi milk, highly processed plant shit, consumed by Asians (built for superior white wiener)
le goooooood
checks out, gay
I think something is AFFECTING you, or that you are AFFECTED because you don't know the difference between affect and effect. Rather like most anglos and thirdies.
Milk is drank by bulls too
This isn't about whether plants affect you or not, it's about one serving of milk containing approximately 1/10000th the amount of estrogen your body naturally produces in a day.
why there are no foodstuffs with testosterone in it? why is estrogen so cheap, brahs?
because it's estrogen that increases milk production and makes thing fat, unfortunately
>why there are no foodstuffs with testosterone in it
there are, they're called testicles. we just don't eat organ meat anymore for some gay reason
>Preggo birds are basically beings of pure estrogen
If you needed any more proof that pregnancy is the peak of female achievement
no one in the world ever got high estrogen from drinking milk.
Its not milk's fault youre a little b***h
Bullshit, pun intended
>ill continue eating yogurt and cheese but yeah im 100% with you, milk also has tons of estrogen
but yogurt and cheese are made from milk, and the estrogen is in the fat, so cheese will have higher estrogen than milk due to being concentrated in fat.
IM SUPERHUMAN
Meat, eggs, butter, bacon, cheese, fruit. Works for me
Mmm yummy milk, i love cows, makes me strong
Stay fricking small Black person
>implying modern cows produce anything like the milk prehistoric bovines used to nurture their young.
Selective breeding has created cow milk fit for humans.
to add to this: selective breeding has created humans fit for cow milk as well
Ok, Jamal.
Swarthoid?
> there was someone somewhere in history who for the first time looked at a cow's udders and went "yea i wanna suck on that"
Women have breasts, moron.
It's not a stretch.
It was me. You're welcome
>see calf drinking milk
>see baby drinking milk
Not that difficult, you porn-addled cumbrain.
ITT: shitskins
If I could have one wish it would be that Indians never discovered Bodybuilding.
They're like Black folk thinking they'll make it into prosports.
we have dark days ahead of us now that Indians seem to fricking love israelites out of their mutual hatred of Mudslimes (Palestinians and Pakistanis)
the goodest goyim of the world are about to get quite a few shades browner
Pajeets worship their demons, of course they love them
Yes. This makes my calves inhuman. Cry about it homosexual.
this is for calves not humans
>milk turns a tiny calf into a gigantic bull
How exactly is this meant to discourage me from drinking milk?
>This is for calves not humans!!
I VVIL ASCEND
Nothing but truth right here. Dairygays stay mad.
Maybe thats what ive been missing this entire time. I need milk for my calves. Thank you, anon!
also please stop being black
Milk is the White Man's drink. Being lactose intolerant is the best sign of a non-Aryan subhuman. The ultimate racial litmus test
Reddit tier pop-racism. There are millions of le swarfs that can and do drink milk. You're literally no better than the black people that claim blacks did everything, in an effort to seem special. It just comes off as cringe and tryhard.
I identify as a calf. Now frick off!
OP is a Black person
Idk bro I drink that and I still have tiny calves:^(
do you all drink basic regular pasteurized milk from the store or you drink only fancy milk from farmers that feed their cows with grass only? I can't find anything like that in my shithole
There's very little reason to drink unpasteurized milk tbh. Anons on this board seem to think that pasteurization is some arcane chemical procedure that completely changes milk's composition, but in reality, it just means that the milk is heated up slightly to kill bacteria before it is filled into bottles. From a nutritional standpoint, pasteurization changes almost nothing about the milk, since our stomach acid attacks the contents of milk we drink way more aggressively than slightly heating it up ever could. I haven't seen any convincing evidence to raw milk having any health benefits thus far. I'm open to being convince of the contrary, though.
If I ever reproduce I really want to try human breast milk, just for the taste. I heard it's a lot sweeter and thicker?
Sweeter, yes but not thicker
I'd say it's more like 2% than whole milk
Lactose intolerant shitskin detected.
Albino ape detected
This is for good goys
>what would happen if the world was run by women
Soon all the boomers will die off and the world will be run women and trannies
Milk is for babies and animals
You're a baby and I'm an animal, cheers!
I'm superhuman (White).
All food is for humans, we're omnivorous.