ok now you. All I said was if that person needs more carbs for readily available energy, they can add it in low-starch and low-fiber ways. Why are you so angry that someone is doing something different?
ok now you. All I said was if that person needs more carbs for readily available energy, they can add it in low-starch and low-fiber ways. Why are you so angry that someone is doing something different?
Are you going to post your physique or just leave the thread a little bit upset?
This motherfricker iq is so low they had to invent a negative scale to measure it, his neurons can be counted with the fingers of a wingless penguin, he got breastfed with gatorade, he entered a competition for stupid idiots and lost because he is so fricking stupid.
They cause both cancer and heart disease, along a plethora of other problems. Frick off, graintard
refined grains(processed) don't have any benefit and actually only harm you
whole grains reduce cancer and other stuff. but whole grains are anti nutrient so they won't feed you. no you'll just starve faster with whole grains. but that is fine
it should be common knowledge that anything processed should be avoided if you have any self respect
If you close your eyes, you can imagine whatever fantasy you want!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>vegans exist >only deficient in the nutrients they don't consume
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Antinutrients sap your iodine and zinc and render you a soiboy. To claim vegans aren't deficient in things they do consume is to ignore reality. Dietary fiber is praised for blocking nutrient absorption
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Do you know what a ratio is
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There its. No argument so you pivot to vegans. Literally 0 people were talking about vegans. You anti vegetable people are just like political hacks. When you can't defend your position you just yell about the opposing side, in this case its a strawman because nobody was saying veganism is good or even mentioned it. Stop being combative and engaging in tribalism and show concrete proof that vegetables harm you more than they benefit you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Is this some sort of gay copypasta you're testing out? You are proof that dietary fiber makes you low-energy!
literally everything on that graphic is peat approved dipshit. He started eating oatmeal towards the end anyway. If your energy feels good then you're fine.
That is almost the exact diet I ate for the last 9 months. It spiked my cholesterol like crazy. The whole diet: >grass fed ground beef and liver, wild salmon, chicken thighs, eggs >whole milk and whole fat yogurt >white rice, blueberries, and carrots for carbs
Pic related is the blood lipid panel from just a few weeks ago. I'm not afraid of LDL since my HDL and Tris are so good, but I normally cruise around 200 and the spike up to 270 has made me decide to mix more fiber in to bring it back down.
My bloods are incredible minus the slightly high LDL at 100, yet I'm probably 13% BF or so and eat very similar to your diet. Do you drink beer often or something? I just don't get how your LDL is so bad, especially considering you look pretty fit.
Probably a LMHR (lean mass hyper responder), basically a class of people who are lean with S-rank HDL/triglycerides but F-rank LDL. Doc suggested familial hypercholesterolemia but there is no family history whatsoever.
LDL cholesterol at 200 is literally horrible, how fricking fat are you? Mine is considered high at 100.
When you guys realize that dietary and blood cholesterol have nothing to do with heart health risks, you'll understand why the emphasis on 'low cholesterol' food fakery has been impressed so heavily on the average consumer. Most food that's 'low cholesterol' as an advertisement point isn't good for you.
Yeah. There's so many distractions from basic, rational health advice (eat things that make you feel good in the days after you eat them, don't eat things that specifically make you feel terrible, balance your intake around your health goals and fitness/output demands, and supplement where you're actually deficient), and that health and fitness are such an absurdly marketed-to/commercialized set of industries, it makes perfect sense that the vast majority of people are just regurgitating what they've been told. More board tourists than ever before, more newbies and more younger guys than ever.
Widespread cholesterol studies are pretty hard to take seriously if they don't control for the activity or lack thereof for the study patients. 20,000,000 person years of followup means literally nothing when you have exceedingly healthy people with relatively high cholesterol who die peacefully in their sleep in the same studies as the clinically obese and those who simply do not raise their heart rates beyond standing up or sitting down.
Disregarded right there. Right fricking there I know the whole 2 hour video is worthless. Anyone using words like "denialist" is a rotten fricking israelite, and is not arguing in good faith.
Berries are useless pesticide dispensers just eat bread buckwheat for carbs
Gayvocado tastes like shit and is pointlessly expensive for a fruit thats 60% inedible seed just get olive oil if you want MUFA
Gayreek yogurt has terrible macros, get sour cream instead
Chicken breast has shit macros get thighs instead
Cottage cheese has shit macros get any other cheese instead
Salmon as is all modern fish is pure poison
Carrots, milk, eggs, and beef are all good choices
Unless the veg is cooked to shreds and the nut is roasted, I don't see much added value here. What nutrients will someone get from these vegetables and what fat from the nut will they get that they aren't already getting from the OP?
Omega 3, fiber, vitamins. OP is close to my optimized cut diet save a few things I added for variety, but I had to staple in kale, broccoli, asparagus, and walnuts to make it 100% functional.
Squash and little veg down towards bottom is stuff for volume / flavor because I eat a shitload of food, so I need something to fill my gut. But it's not necessary.
2/2
Raw veg is really not doing you any favors, if you actually want the nutrients to be absorbable. You'll feel more satiated if you eat all those raw items cooked. The eggplant, squash, etc raw is not helping you in any way but giving you a sensation of a full tummy, when they could be giving you a physiological satiation when cooked. The nutrients you want are literally being shitted out when uncooked. Fiber is overrated, and if you're prioritizing it simply because 'health' instead of improving your stool quality, I think you're missing the mark.
I also forgot shrimp. Oops. Pretty important for amino acid ratio and iodine.
Good quality salmon covers that. Though you could do oysters instead of shrimp and have to eat a lot fewer to get the same outcome.
They will be cooked. The listing is raw for consistency in purchases. Fiber is for stool quality; I become severely irregular without it. I spam psyllium when not on a strict diet. I don't trust my salmon to cover everything, and besides, too much fat increases my calorie level upwards (this is set for 1700/day). Keep in mind, I'm able to eat way too much food outside of a decently structured diet, on the scale of 4-6k calories a day.
Also remember that cooked weight varies moreso than raw, and in mixed dishes e.g. stir fry, it's hard to account exactly how much is in the recipe without weighing ingredients raw.
What's your goal? Lose a ton of weight? Weight/height? I'd really not want to shut myself down that much.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cut 150 -> 120 without losing any micros. If I can do that, I can easily tweak my diet for calories from there. Basically the vertical diet in practice. I couldn't realistically get it below 1700/day based on the foods I eat.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Man, that's really seriously low weight. If you're a short woman it makes sense, but damn that's light. I hope you have good energy in the day and feel good going to sleep!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm short (5'7), I'm aiming for 10% body fat. Accounting for muscle mass loss due to such changes, 120 seems realistic. If my micros are in order, I should be okay - 1700 is less than a 500 calorie deficit from normal activity, and is slightly over my BMR.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Do you have a fitness goal outside of specific weight? What's your training like?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I have a hybrid routine I've built for general conditioning and aesthetics, but I have little opportunity to stick with it right now (shit living conditions). So in the meantime, I'm just focusing on getting my nutrition and body composition in order, which will hopefully have some positive synergistic effects on other parts of my life.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sounds good man, not trying to pick you apart just curious. Best of luck and I hope your living conditions can improve shortly.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're fine. Getting my career and life in order is top priority because I'm paycheck to paycheck and close to being homeless. I also don't know how to fix that in this job market.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I can relate, somewhat. Trying to get your resume in front of a real person is hell. If you can stomach it, I would just find anything that you can add locally part time. Don't put it on the resume, just keep income flowing. Economy will improve.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I have a hybrid routine I've built for general conditioning and aesthetics, but I have little opportunity to stick with it right now (shit living conditions). So in the meantime, I'm just focusing on getting my nutrition and body composition in order, which will hopefully have some positive synergistic effects on other parts of my life.
Here's my program. Currently it's block 1 to 1/2/3/4 or stalling, then block 2 for a while.
Omega 3, fiber, vitamins. OP is close to my optimized cut diet save a few things I added for variety, but I had to staple in kale, broccoli, asparagus, and walnuts to make it 100% functional.
1/2
Squash and little veg down towards bottom is stuff for volume / flavor because I eat a shitload of food, so I need something to fill my gut. But it's not necessary.
I know. Carnies are all about how much nutrition they get because they avoid "anti nutrients" but never post body. Its because they are all fat and on it for weight loss.
>come to thread proposing reasonable, universally agreed on healthy foods >haha no anti nutrients you will die >refuse to show what your proposed counterculture diet produces as evidence for your outrageous claims >call people who loose you vegans or say they are shilling trash
Every
Single
Time.
>come to thread proposing reasonable, universally agreed on healthy foods >haha no anti nutrients you will die >refuse to show what your proposed counterculture diet produces as evidence for your outrageous claims >call people who loose you vegans or say they are shilling trash
Every
Single
Time.
that's excess and yet deficient at the same time.
Explain
No you need supplements as well
>no carbs
schizo
milk, blueberries, carrots and yoghurt all contain carbs you stupid homosexual
Low carb was a mistake
Yeah let me just get enough carbs to hit a PR with carrots.
Oh, so you're all carbed up and hitting PRs? Cool! Post body
drink more milk, add honey and maple syrup to your yogurt and you'll be fine.
>pure sugar as the basis of your diet
Kek post body
ok now you. All I said was if that person needs more carbs for readily available energy, they can add it in low-starch and low-fiber ways. Why are you so angry that someone is doing something different?
Are you going to post your physique or just leave the thread a little bit upset?
how many carrots do I need to eat to get my 400g of carbs a day?
Frick off fatass.
funny since 99% of ketards are obese
Oh wow, obese people choosing to eat healthier? Who could've guessed they would do that?
If you NEED that many carbs, I would do fresh cooked white rice and roasted potatoes. Easy, simple, available glucose.
you dont need 400g of carbs
>how many carrots do I need to eat to get my 400g of carbs a day?
>T.
Approximately 67 medium sized carrots
>400g of carbs a day
T.midwit
>no carbs
>carrots, milk, berries
This motherfricker iq is so low they had to invent a negative scale to measure it, his neurons can be counted with the fingers of a wingless penguin, he got breastfed with gatorade, he entered a competition for stupid idiots and lost because he is so fricking stupid.
add liver and raw honey and I agree
enjoy your copper toxicity
You won't get copper toxicity if you're eating balanced sources of other minerals. Selenium, all the good stuff in oysters. Don't be obtuse.
needs a whole grain
>no grains
>no beans
>no molasses
lol
you do not need grains
they prevent cancer and lower cholesterol
Frick off ~~*Dr. Greger*~~
They cause both cancer and heart disease, along a plethora of other problems. Frick off, graintard
imagine believing this
im surprised you aren't schizo about fructose, too. maybe you should be 😉
AND NOT A SINGLE SOURCE WAS GIVEN THAT DAY
grains being healthy should be common knowledge.
blueberries take care of the cancer you fricking moron. No need to add a bunch of worthless carbs, pesticides, and lectins too
>prevent cancer
0 proof
>lower cholesterol
lower the good cholesterol
>no proof
prove it
Sure, here you go:
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refined grains(processed) don't have any benefit and actually only harm you
whole grains reduce cancer and other stuff. but whole grains are anti nutrient so they won't feed you. no you'll just starve faster with whole grains. but that is fine
it should be common knowledge that anything processed should be avoided if you have any self respect
>anti nutrient
this meme needs to die, it's so ridiculous.
If you close your eyes, you can imagine whatever fantasy you want!
>vegans exist
>only deficient in the nutrients they don't consume
Antinutrients sap your iodine and zinc and render you a soiboy. To claim vegans aren't deficient in things they do consume is to ignore reality. Dietary fiber is praised for blocking nutrient absorption
Do you know what a ratio is
There its. No argument so you pivot to vegans. Literally 0 people were talking about vegans. You anti vegetable people are just like political hacks. When you can't defend your position you just yell about the opposing side, in this case its a strawman because nobody was saying veganism is good or even mentioned it. Stop being combative and engaging in tribalism and show concrete proof that vegetables harm you more than they benefit you
Is this some sort of gay copypasta you're testing out? You are proof that dietary fiber makes you low-energy!
>doubles down
Sad
Take your B12, veggieboy.
oats have lots of magnesium and calories
>refined
what do you think refined means? oats are without bran
Depends on the form you get. Its reasonable to expect people on the fitness board eat the most unprocessed form
throw in some potatoes and spinach and then we're talking
remove the avocado and add white rice and we golden
>just add tons of oxalates bro
twice-cooked potatoes and cooked spinach are fine. Potatoes are exceptionally good value.
needs a cruciferous vegetable
Close. I like salt
Don't like 'cado
Post it.
no
literally everything on that graphic is peat approved dipshit. He started eating oatmeal towards the end anyway. If your energy feels good then you're fine.
why do you take this old bag that died at 80 advice to heart lmao
>No taters
Wot's taters?
sneeds more fruit and veg and a kind of rice
>avocado
>no fresh baked bread
Low sperm count diet confirmed
That is almost the exact diet I ate for the last 9 months. It spiked my cholesterol like crazy. The whole diet:
>grass fed ground beef and liver, wild salmon, chicken thighs, eggs
>whole milk and whole fat yogurt
>white rice, blueberries, and carrots for carbs
Pic related is the blood lipid panel from just a few weeks ago. I'm not afraid of LDL since my HDL and Tris are so good, but I normally cruise around 200 and the spike up to 270 has made me decide to mix more fiber in to bring it back down.
LDL cholesterol at 200 is literally horrible, how fricking fat are you? Mine is considered high at 100.
I'm 160lbs at 5'9"
My bloods are incredible minus the slightly high LDL at 100, yet I'm probably 13% BF or so and eat very similar to your diet. Do you drink beer often or something? I just don't get how your LDL is so bad, especially considering you look pretty fit.
Probably a LMHR (lean mass hyper responder), basically a class of people who are lean with S-rank HDL/triglycerides but F-rank LDL. Doc suggested familial hypercholesterolemia but there is no family history whatsoever.
Oh and no I don't drink alcohol, what I posted as my diet is 100% of what I consume.
When you guys realize that dietary and blood cholesterol have nothing to do with heart health risks, you'll understand why the emphasis on 'low cholesterol' food fakery has been impressed so heavily on the average consumer. Most food that's 'low cholesterol' as an advertisement point isn't good for you.
Don't bother, everyone who was gonna listen knows already, the ones still blabbering about muh cholesterol are cultists. You won't convince them.
Yeah. There's so many distractions from basic, rational health advice (eat things that make you feel good in the days after you eat them, don't eat things that specifically make you feel terrible, balance your intake around your health goals and fitness/output demands, and supplement where you're actually deficient), and that health and fitness are such an absurdly marketed-to/commercialized set of industries, it makes perfect sense that the vast majority of people are just regurgitating what they've been told. More board tourists than ever before, more newbies and more younger guys than ever.
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Widespread cholesterol studies are pretty hard to take seriously if they don't control for the activity or lack thereof for the study patients. 20,000,000 person years of followup means literally nothing when you have exceedingly healthy people with relatively high cholesterol who die peacefully in their sleep in the same studies as the clinically obese and those who simply do not raise their heart rates beyond standing up or sitting down.
>cholesterol denialists
Disregarded right there. Right fricking there I know the whole 2 hour video is worthless. Anyone using words like "denialist" is a rotten fricking israelite, and is not arguing in good faith.
Kek, that guy is a plant-based ideologue, its clear from perusing his content for 5 minutes.
plant foods are consistently shown to promote health.
>to promote health
such as? Some marker on an outdated useless test
>show me evidence I will disregard
Why even post
Berries are useless pesticide dispensers just eat bread buckwheat for carbs
Gayvocado tastes like shit and is pointlessly expensive for a fruit thats 60% inedible seed just get olive oil if you want MUFA
Gayreek yogurt has terrible macros, get sour cream instead
Chicken breast has shit macros get thighs instead
Cottage cheese has shit macros get any other cheese instead
Salmon as is all modern fish is pure poison
Carrots, milk, eggs, and beef are all good choices
rent free.
>Chicken breast has shit macros get thighs instead
??????
poast fizeek
>Gayreek yogurt has terrible macros, get sour cream instead
Not even skyr or kefir you fricking psycho?
Pretty close, but you're missing greens Black person.
>broccoli
>asparagus
>walnuts
Unless the veg is cooked to shreds and the nut is roasted, I don't see much added value here. What nutrients will someone get from these vegetables and what fat from the nut will they get that they aren't already getting from the OP?
Omega 3, fiber, vitamins. OP is close to my optimized cut diet save a few things I added for variety, but I had to staple in kale, broccoli, asparagus, and walnuts to make it 100% functional.
1/2
Raw veg is really not doing you any favors, if you actually want the nutrients to be absorbable. You'll feel more satiated if you eat all those raw items cooked. The eggplant, squash, etc raw is not helping you in any way but giving you a sensation of a full tummy, when they could be giving you a physiological satiation when cooked. The nutrients you want are literally being shitted out when uncooked. Fiber is overrated, and if you're prioritizing it simply because 'health' instead of improving your stool quality, I think you're missing the mark.
Good quality salmon covers that. Though you could do oysters instead of shrimp and have to eat a lot fewer to get the same outcome.
They will be cooked. The listing is raw for consistency in purchases. Fiber is for stool quality; I become severely irregular without it. I spam psyllium when not on a strict diet. I don't trust my salmon to cover everything, and besides, too much fat increases my calorie level upwards (this is set for 1700/day). Keep in mind, I'm able to eat way too much food outside of a decently structured diet, on the scale of 4-6k calories a day.
Also remember that cooked weight varies moreso than raw, and in mixed dishes e.g. stir fry, it's hard to account exactly how much is in the recipe without weighing ingredients raw.
What's your goal? Lose a ton of weight? Weight/height? I'd really not want to shut myself down that much.
Cut 150 -> 120 without losing any micros. If I can do that, I can easily tweak my diet for calories from there. Basically the vertical diet in practice. I couldn't realistically get it below 1700/day based on the foods I eat.
Man, that's really seriously low weight. If you're a short woman it makes sense, but damn that's light. I hope you have good energy in the day and feel good going to sleep!
I'm short (5'7), I'm aiming for 10% body fat. Accounting for muscle mass loss due to such changes, 120 seems realistic. If my micros are in order, I should be okay - 1700 is less than a 500 calorie deficit from normal activity, and is slightly over my BMR.
Do you have a fitness goal outside of specific weight? What's your training like?
I have a hybrid routine I've built for general conditioning and aesthetics, but I have little opportunity to stick with it right now (shit living conditions). So in the meantime, I'm just focusing on getting my nutrition and body composition in order, which will hopefully have some positive synergistic effects on other parts of my life.
Sounds good man, not trying to pick you apart just curious. Best of luck and I hope your living conditions can improve shortly.
You're fine. Getting my career and life in order is top priority because I'm paycheck to paycheck and close to being homeless. I also don't know how to fix that in this job market.
I can relate, somewhat. Trying to get your resume in front of a real person is hell. If you can stomach it, I would just find anything that you can add locally part time. Don't put it on the resume, just keep income flowing. Economy will improve.
Here's my program. Currently it's block 1 to 1/2/3/4 or stalling, then block 2 for a while.
Block 1:
https://www.boostcamp.app/share/Block%201?program_id=user-936520fa-d8d1-4f1f-a078-55cd78e34cdb
Block 2:
https://www.boostcamp.app/share/Block%202?program_id=user-8aaba999-e218-4b51-803d-caeebcb35020
Squash and little veg down towards bottom is stuff for volume / flavor because I eat a shitload of food, so I need something to fill my gut. But it's not necessary.
2/2
I also forgot shrimp. Oops. Pretty important for amino acid ratio and iodine.
I absolutely refuse to listen to anyone who doesnt recommend bananas
I like all those things, but
Add rice so I don’t die of lack of calories. No I will not eat three pounds of blueberries a day
where's the honey
Need rice, pasta and potatoes simply because i like them.
You also need raspberries
A bit excessive. You aren't really narrowing it down based on need
avocado makes me fart heaps as its a FODMAP depending on it's ripeness
I'm allergic to salmon
>pesticide-laced berries/vegetables
no thanks
>pesticide laced veggies
🙁
>hormone pumped, unnaturally fed animals on antibiotics covered in feces
😀
I can't do without a little bit of pork.
close, but you dont need avocados and cream and blueberries
where bell pepper?
It's funny how the truth triggers DYELcels so easily.
I know. Carnies are all about how much nutrition they get because they avoid "anti nutrients" but never post body. Its because they are all fat and on it for weight loss.
>SAD diet shills out in full force
Buy an addor your frosted goy flakes.
>oats
>carrots
Do I look like a groundhog to you Black person?
And that milk better be raw.
how do you get most of your calories?
>come to thread proposing reasonable, universally agreed on healthy foods
>haha no anti nutrients you will die
>refuse to show what your proposed counterculture diet produces as evidence for your outrageous claims
>call people who loose you vegans or say they are shilling trash
Every
Single
Time.
>reasonable, universally agreed on
0.062 shekels were deposited to your account
>doesnt even say the meme right
close but no cigar
>no organ meats
>no garlic
>no onion
>no beets
>no spices
>no green tea
>no nondutch cocoa
>useless avocado
>useless milk
>useless muscle meat
>useless cottage cheese
>useless yogurt
kys
>nondutch cocoa
I'm Dutch and what is this?
Say something in your circus-ass language
Heffen is voor flikkers
it's their circus day today too
if all milk, cheese and yogurt is bad then how you get daily 1g calcium?
From tap water.
show drinking 33 liters of tapwater everyday for years
Organ meats are bad for you.