This is the perfect mode for getting laid
>Low body fat (8 to 12%)
Gives you Abs and a more attractive face with a defined jawline and cheekbones. Given that you are not malformed.
>Natty
Easy to achieve and maintain if you are disciplined. Strength and athletic performance better than most of the population.
>Focus on upper chest, shoulders, Abs, back and traps
V-taper
I have never seen my full six pack and the leanest I have ever been was 14.8%
What am I missing?
Exactly. Unless you have elite muscle mass or exceptional fat storage, ~15% bodyfat simply isn't lean. It's lean in relative normie terms but honestly
these are more in the 8-10% range even. I'm not gonna be too pedantic about it since these are just arbitrary numbers thrown around even dexa scan has ~4% margin error so it's really useless discussion in the end. Point is that at your leanest @ ~15% bf you were still optimistically 2-3 months hardcore dieting away from abs and in worst case if you dont have big abs, good geneticcs and muscle mass you could be looking at 4-5 months of diet ahead. Once you get low enough losing even 1% per month is tough.
>Once you get low enough losing even 1% per month is tough.
What is low enough?
>@ ~15% bf you were still optimistically 2-3 months hardcore dieting away from abs
bro ur fricking moronic it only takes 3-4 weeks to drop 10 pounds on 72 hour fasts
maybe if your "hardcore diet" is 1500 calories a day
even then I would expect 10 pounds of body fat on most people to be closer to 5% than 2-3%
basically this
life starts at %12
>What am I missing?
Lots of fun
>What am I missing?
Life
an aesthetic physique. lot's of people are big and strong, no one is impressed by it.
You became complacent and gave up on your diet. It happens to the best of us. Once you start looking pretty good you lose the willpower to keep suffering to get leaner.
I don't look good yet, but I look much better than I did before I lost what fat I've lost so far (25% -> 18%). Problem is getting down further, it's like pulling teeth when you've always been a fatass.
>What am I missing?
Everything
You have to actually train your abs
95% of men will never have that body
90% of men WHO TRY WONT HAVE THAT BODY
Most people who hit the gym could achieve that kind of body if they started cutting. But the average person who works out is around 20% body fat if I had to guess. Permabulk is the norm.
I just obseve reality, seen and met many gym goers through the years NEVER seen a 'transformation' to le muscle ottermode bf, jacked dudes were always jacked it seems to me.
At most I ve seen a fatso or 2 going from fattass do skinny fatish soft body
That's because most gym goers think that exercise alone will get them results. They don't count calories or follow a strict diet. This is what has become the conventional wisdom in society. If you understand that diet is 95% of what it takes to change your body composition then you will ge the results. It takes months and months of disciplined dieting and a complete change of your lifestyle though. Most people aren't able to do a complete 180 on their basic habits like that.
What routine will give you similar results?
Any beginner routine followed by an intermediate routine. Then a cut.
e.g. SS or SL5x5 -> TM or Madcow -> hit 1/2/3/4 -> cut while maintaining lifts
This is misinformation.
yeah, you'd actually look better and more symmetric than those twinks
This is the kind of face that gets Pussy
Sorry to those 6/10 face and under, you need height (5’11 minimum) or money to ever have sex
only good body itt that'd actually look like he lifts in a shirt
When i was low bodyfat i got bullied so much
You need the combination of muscle mass and low body fat, low body fat alone is just a skinny weak nerd
Funny
My cousins started bullying me when I dirty bulked but praised me the next year when I achieved 10% body fat. Lean privilege is real.
>stop eating because I'm busy college student
>losing weight but not getting any leaner
where did the "if you want to get abs, just stop eating" meme come from?
If you are so sedentary your body will burn muscle instead of fat when on a caloric deficit
You are essentially doing recomp the other way around
frick, really?
so even though my diet is shit I should still work out so that I don't burn muscle?
Yeah you need to work out and eat enough protein when on a cut to not lose muscle
Good news is if you are a noob you could not only maintain, but also gain muscle on a cut, assuming you work out enough thats what happened to me anyway
moron
Willing to bet op is a pakistani janitor who doesnt lift
>Willing to bet op is a pakistani janitor who doesnt lift
Op isn't telling you to stop lifting
He is telling you to lift smart and watch your caloric intake
Derailing gay twink envy thread
Now that's a REAL MAN's body.
Goddam homos!! keep your gay antics out of this thread!
Might sound like a fatty cope but my face looks better when my bf% is higher. Last time I "cut" I still didn't have abs but my face looked gaunt/sickly
>0 lats
>twink arms
>chest disproportionately large
this guys only lifts to ‘look good’ and has a warped view of what that means
False. This is the ideal male physique.
This if you just want to frick loose girls
This if you want a wife
eat shit ton of good food and only do bench press row and squad no need to thanks
MILFS and single moms will drool. Guaranteed.
How do I into this physique? I feel like I have base for it but I have love handles
I look a few % off these types when standing up but when I lay down I look fat. I am tall and have a long torso so more vertical area to droop?
This is not easy to achieve if you carry a lot of bodyfat. People like this who were lean and athletic their whole lives have a huge advantage. Yes, anyone can get there, but it's not a walk in the park losing all that fat and keeping it off.
Workout for this mode?
pullup bar and dumbbells, achieve high intensity
this. you need to quit goyslop and make protein and eggs your staples. you can still eat random, just not every day
you'll also need to schedule cut/maintain/bulks
How often have you made this thread, you pathetic dyel homosexual?
I will make it until you all learn
Power trannies gonna seethe
If you're shirts off 24/7 or all you do is dating apps. Otherwise nobody will be able to tell how lean your other than the lean face.
>If you're shirts off 24/7
they call it beach body for a reason
Ok, just gonna hang at the beach all day? And unless you're in California then it probably won't be much fun in the winter.
give me the routine pls
1g protein/lb bodyweight per day. Eat TDEE minus 500 calories every day. Do 12 sets per week per muscle group. Lift to failure in the 8 to 12 rep range. Do 20 minutes of cardio every morning.
Good luck.
Getting a 'sleeper' build physique.
So basically in gaming a 'sleeper' is a build where your character doesn't look particularly impressive but they absolutely decimate when given the opportunity.
I've been researching fitness and I'm essentially trying to 'gamify' it to maintain my interest. I always opt for sleeper builds because I'm not interested in vanity but I like to subvert expectations and dominate people who you wouldn't expect me to, so that's how I want to approach fitness.
I understand that to develop this I need to focus on strength sets (1-5 reps) rather than hypertrophy (8-12) and build the 'skill' of strength. I do not intend on cutting and have no interest in gaining weight. I have no interest in looking 'visibly' muscular because I feel like it would put me to close to these hedonistic vanity-based tiktok bodybuilders who have very different motivations. I just want to be a normal looking dude who can be crazy strong when he needs to be.
I haven't started yet as I'm still developing my strategy. I'm wondering if there are any tricks or exercises that will help me develop strength while limiting potential hypertrophy as much as possible. I'm already including deadlifts, snatches, cleans (no jerk or presses as they're very shoulder isolating) and farmers carrys for example.
Thanks in advance big guys, also checked OP
You're probably not going to do anything except shit up the board with your LARP and then you'll be ugly AND weak
C'MON!
No such thing as a Sleeper's build. You're either jacked enough to tell through a shirt or you're a dyel.
powershitters are unironically the best sleeper builds, they blend in with the average american
if you want to keep being a sleeper during the upcoming famine just hard cut and manipulate your water retention/pump as needed. prereq: start SS and stock up your fridge
>no abs
>I'm essentially trying to 'gamify' it to maintain my interest
This shit is fricking BUILT, not gamify, you basement dweller.
sounds like you (a beta male) are into these types of men